A common thing in nearly any fantasy type of setting, bet it a low or high fantasy, is often hitting on the barmaids, tavern waitresses/waiters, and or bar wenches.
>be in a tavern >holler the inn keep for some food and refreshments >tavern maid comes in to give your order >either you or your party members/associates decide to hit on her or grope her >and possibly either you or the party member(s) ask the tavern maid to "accompany" you/them to the inn room so you/they wouldn't "feel lonely" tonight
What exactly is the thing behind this other than getting some pussy or other pervy things? Plus would you really try hitting on a tavern maid and even ask her/him to accompany you to your room and fuck her/him for tonight? And what even motivates said tavern maids/wenches to such thing anyways?
It's part of the fantasy aesthetic. Probably from Conan, if not older.
What motivates them is that adventurers are rich and powerful and generally buff, good-looking people looking for a night of fun, and women like getting laid, too.
Chase Williams
Most tavern maids moonlight as prostitutes, because they make more money that way. It's like the girls in an casino, they'll sleep with you for enough money. Being a tavern-wench isn't very profitable.
Let's be frank: Adventurers are basically rock stars, and throw around vast amounts of money. If someone gives a tavern wench 50GP, that's more than a year's income.
Julian Johnson
>Adventurers are basically rock stars, and throw around vast amounts of money. If someone gives a tavern wench 50GP, that's more than a year's income.
Basically this, even if players are bunch of awkward nerds, their characters are the turbochads Or at least should be. Many socially inept nerds make the characters their self inserts but """"better"""" which usually means more powerful yet still as awkward, creepy and cringy as IRL[/spoilers] so it doesn't take much to make a simpleton backwater wvillage girl spread her legs for them.
Evan Hill
>mfw OP is this much of a neckbeard that he doesn't realize that people literally do the modern equivalent of this to waitresses/women at night clubs this very day >mfw OP doesn't realize getting laid IS the whole point
David Harris
>A common thing in nearly any fantasy type of setting, bet it a low or high fantasy, is often hitting on the barmaids, tavern waitresses/waiters, and or bar wenches.
RL isn't that different desu.
Ian Thompson
I mean even if they aren't turbochads, at a certain point, most fantasy characters have been and done and seen more things than anybody in their village.
Farmer Bill's son Tom might be a nice kid and he might be pretty good-looking but he's also boring and not exactly a whirlwind romance. Comparitively, Thorian Wolfjacket, the big shirtless guy dressed in the skin of a wolf he slaughtered himself with nothing but a longsword and can tell you those stories in startling detail, that guy is gonna get somebody's daughter pregnant, and money may not even need to change hands.
Hell, Rasmodion Spellbastard, born from a Simulacrum gone awry and now dedicated to being a mage in his own right, is probably a pretty interesting dude, too, and even if he's not huge and shirtless he's probably interesting conversation and has a ton of stories about the shit he's seen and done, so he'll probably get some attention, too, as long as he doesn't reek of spell components and act like some kind of giga-asshole.
And Hucke Daggerfall, the thief in the corner, is probably mysterious and brooding, or otherwise extremely sociable and likeable, making the rounds and flashing his ill-gotten gains, so he's probably going to get laid, too.
That doesn't even touch on the bard or the paladin - literally the hot artist or the shining knight, many women's dream guys.
Jeremiah Diaz
>>mfw OP doesn't realize getting laid IS the whole point Well, flirting can also be fun in itself, even if it doesn't lead to anything.
Eli Rodriguez
IRL in Western Europe tavern were want to be brothels. It was a matter of zoning laws, not being able to get the needed staff, or the owner not being able to pay for the needed space.
I think that most of /TG has no idea just how common prostitution was back in the day or how recent it stopped being acceptable (the late 1950s). In the 18th century 30% of the population of London was in some shape or fashion part of the prostitution trade. London was special for being the largest city to be economical support by prostitution but not for percantage of the population that worked in some part of the trade. A few port cities in the Mediterranean crossed the 40% line.
> And what even motivates said tavern maids/wenches to such thing anyways? > Most tavern maids moonlight as prostitutes
Partly true but there is more. For many tavern maid/wenches the motivation for having that Job in the first place was TAX EVASION from their earnings as a prostitute. This was true in parts of England, France, and much of the H.R.E. Prostitution was rather profitable and thus a target of taxation, simple as that.
I would like to point out that being a tavern maid was a low skill, low pay ( at lest from the employer) job that most of the depiction showed the people of that profession wearing very nice clothes for the era. Even though they were working a job that had a high risk of drink or food spilling on those clothes. Also them wearing making up even though that was pricey back in the day.
How were the tavern maids getting the money for those things?
Economic history can be rather fun.
Lucas Cruz
Even for male waiters?
Ian Cruz
user, I see you are kind of an expert on history of prostitution
Ethan Bell
Possible character background? Becoming an adventurer after getting cucked one too many times.
Robert Rivera
Imagine leaving home as a nice lad of 15 or 16 (so just about a man by medieval standards); perfectly pleasant and fairly strong and good-looking by virtue of hard work and lucky genetics. Some 'adventurer' who's little more than a bandit boss stole your girl one too many times, so you set out for fame and fortune. Adventuring changes you; takes a solid foundation and to your intense surprise, after three years, you're 10/10, with more than enough gold to buy your entire village AND the one in the next valley over wholesale!
One night, you and your companions rest in the tavern of a small river village and as always, the local girls are all over each of you (even the cleric chick, much to the ranger's delight). You notice one lad sitting in alone at a small table however, nursing a weak beer and looking over at you and your friends with eyes full of anger, jealousy and hurt. Seems he's paying a lot of attention to the blonde all but spilling out of her dress as she presses herself onto your shoulder too. You recognise that look... It stared back at you from the night-dark waters of the rain barrel the night before you left your home...
What do you do, hero?
Daniel Jackson
Is the blonde barmaid attractive?
Aiden Ortiz
Give him the same motivation to become an adventurer as I had.
Joseph Richardson
Much of what I know about it is merely from three pre-grad collage class's "History of the British Empire", "19th century Europe", and a upper level American history class ( a 3000 level class rather then the everyone must take it 1300 level class). I am not a expert on the subject really. I focused more on the food trade and political-military history. I did once write a paper on the rum trade with good friends of mine covering gin and whiskey, it was fun.
As why those three class covered the of history of prostitution it was because all of the professors felt the need to cover it. They viewed it a major barrier to understanding the period and the culture.
Having said that if anyone has questions on the matter I may be able to give answer.
Jeremiah Sanchez
Have you seen the way hen parties act? Or students living away from home for the first time exploring their personal boundaries/sexuality?
Justin Martin
If I can pull myself up from peasantry by my bootstraps, so can he. I'm going to make sure I fuck the barmaid, and I'm going to make sure the sound of her pleasure is heard by everybody in the inn.
Kayden Morales
Take him to your room and fuck him
Nicholas Kelly
Ignore the barslut and fuck the cleric chick, true waifu material.
Jayden Hall
this reminds me of those threads where we convinced that one guy to take coasters to his first IRL game after living in his basement for years.
Xavier Butler
Unfortunately, the cleric chick is already fucking the paladin.
Caleb Adams
Then I'll fuck em both.
Nathaniel Walker
They don't do polyamorous, user. They're too pure.
Jeremiah Young
Ehh. Solid 7/10. You've seen women who out-do her in almost every way (some all at once), but generally they're nobility or have some other reason why they aren't quite as eager. Some have flirted with you, seeing as you're a dashing young hedge knight, but you're just so below their station-!
She's certainly the hottest girl in this town though.
The cleric chick is very, very much a virgin, despite sometimes seeming curious about various men (and the redhead all but sitting in her lap). She's also thoroughly friendzoned you, the sorcerer, the ranger AND the rogue; she just has no romantic or sexual interest in her closest companions as far as you can tell. The ranger offers to wingman for you if he gets to watch but given her opinion of him, you suspect he'd probably do more harm than good.
Somehow I am neither surprised or even disappointed. I had low expectations and you have met them magnificently. You effortlessly score a fairly decent loving from your fawning fangirl.
I... Did not expect that. Some of the girls look disappointed. Some others look even MORE interested now. The lad protests and struggles, breaking his knuckles punching you in the face, before running out of the tavern with a face red as a beetroot!
Evan Bailey
>Solid 7/10. >She's certainly the hottest girl in this town though. I'll see if the guy is up for a threesome then.
Leo Harris
So how do you distinguish between a bar maid and a prostitute that also works as a bar maid?
Blake Flores
I drain his feelings of suffering and pain to replenish my magic.
Ethan Cook
The prostitute who also works as a bar maid will fuck adventurers for money. The regular bar maid will fuck adventurers for free.
Ryan Reyes
>What exactly is the thing behind this other than getting some pussy or other pervy things? It's how real life taverns, bars, pubs et cetera work. MEN spend their money there, not women. To make sure these men open up their wallets you need attractive women, either "in-house" (waitresses and the like) or you need to attract them (guests). This is also where the stereotype comes in of the big, mean bouncer who lets any girl who winks at him through but gives men a lot of shit. That DOES happen, and not (exclusively) because the bouncer wants to get his dick wet. It's part of his job to make sure that the (attractive) female : male ratio is sufficiently in balance to encourage men to buy women drinks. Nothing kills a nightclub, lounge or bar more than a sausage fest. Attractive waitresses don't hurt either.
That's why they're a common trope in fiction: art imitates life.
Robert Rodriguez
There's obviously potential for the birth of new hero here, so I guess I'm obliged to fuck the barmaid. Just to encourage the lad to be all he can be, you see.
David Flores
Plenty of women spend their money in real life bars and pubs, though. Some of them are attractive, some are not. Or were you talking more from a historical than present day perspective?
Isaac Rodriguez
>Plenty of women spend their money in real life bars and pubs, though. It's not entirely black and white of course, but let me put it like this: when's the last time you saw a woman buy a drink for a man she never met before?
Jose Sanchez
cast dominate on the cleric and get her to give up her religion
Justin Bell
>following week you discover a familiar face of a young lad among several owlbear owl pellets
Whoops, Spagett!
>on a somewhat related note, I like to use moments like this to remind players that they're special and/or more likely very lucky to have survived for that long.
Cameron Murphy
nothing is too pure to wake up the next day with a hangover and a sore anus
Asher Richardson
>I... Did not expect that. Some of the girls look disappointed. Some others look even MORE interested now. The lad protests and struggles, breaking his knuckles punching you in the face, before running out of the tavern with a face red as a beetroot! jokes on you kid, you gay now! Haha!
Jace Green
>before running out of the tavern with a face red as a beetroot! CHASE AFTER HIM AND FINISH THE JOB!
Benjamin Collins
How did barmaids protect themselves from being knocked up all the time by prostitution?
Carson Clark
There are entire species of contraceptive herbs and plants that have gone extinct since the Classical period simply from how much they were used. We only know they existed from occasional literary references or drawings. People underestimate just how much fucking was going on back then.
Henry Gutierrez
Mix vinegar with water at approximately 1:3 , apply in cooter, repeat daily, it's a primitive (but efficient) spermicide.
Luis Perez
it is historical acccurate. Up to this day in my country this is what happens at the truck rest inns. The women working there are prostitutes with additional stuff they have to do.
Aaron Diaz
That's called rape, user...
And that's called mind-rape and is one of the fastest ways to destroy the party.
Christian Hall
these
Eli Long
>That's called rape, user... In medieval times it was legally not considered rape if it was a man. Heck, in many countries TODAY it is still so!
Jacob Foster
My Dad can get women pregnant as a swan, spermicides will fail
Ian Hall
Why would mind-raping an npc destroy a party?
Benjamin Long
It comes from real life, where even hundreds of years ago people still hired workers for their ability to attract customers away from competing businesses.
And a very real stereotype where drunks will hit on women.
Evan Ross
>Mix vinegar with water at approximately 1:3 , apply in cooter
That sounds like it would sting like a bitch.
Jayden Long
I think the cleric is a PC
Levi Gomez
It does.
Joseph Allen
you think wrong
Juan Sanders
Often times, they didn't. Prostitutes quite often shat out bastards.
Sebastian Myers
That's fucking bullshit, seeing how having a kid in medieval times was like rolling dice to see if you died on a 1 or 2.
David Stewart
Right, because it's not like the cleric doesn't have Wisdom for days and can pass any Wisdom save you put in front of her.
Nolan Williams
But it's true, that's what happened. Hell, that's the only reason we have English. English is the result of Norman men-at-arms trying to pick up Anglo-Saxon tavern wenches. The language that resulted is no more legitimate than any of the other offspring.
Jacob King
>But it's true, that's what happened. Hell, that's the only reason we have English. English is the result of Norman men-at-arms trying to pick up Anglo-Saxon tavern wenches. The language that resulted is no more legitimate than any of the other offspring.
Is this weaponized autism?
Jason Cruz
>Is this weaponized autism? English? yes
Jack Jones
Kek
Jace Martinez
>common thing in nearly any fantasy type of setting, bet it a low or high fantasy, is often hitting on the barmaids, tavern waitresses/waiters, and or bar wenches.
Its actually based on reality. As someone who worked as a bouncer in multiple Nightclubs/Bars I can tell you that most female bartenders are huge sluts.
>What exactly is the thing behind this other than getting some pussy or other pervy things? You get drunk, you want to fuck. How socially inept are you to now know how flirting works?
>Plus would you really try hitting on a tavern maid and even ask her/him to accompany you to your room and fuck her/him for tonight? No you obviously have to try harder than HEY GURL WANT SUM FUCK although I have seen women being receptive to that kind of male attention if you are sufficiently handsome/suave enough to be above the rest.
>And what even motivates said tavern maids/wenches to such thing anyways? What motivates everyone else on this planet to fuck? I cannot tell if you are legit this socially retarded because you are a neckbeard or because of your Gender-Studies degree. I refuse to believe that someone is this clueless about how human interaction works.
Connor Martin
This. How does "Because having sex is fun" not immediately occur to you as the obvious answer to all these questions?
Evan Bennett
No, it's a semi-famous quote about the English language, although for the life of me I can't find out where I first encountered it. A Google search of the phrase is just turning up my own past posts...
Kevin Moore
that sounds like a good way to get a fungal infection.
Adam Wright
>I refuse to believe that someone is this clueless about how human interaction works.
Where do you think you are?
Jeremiah Parker
You gotta admit, even by Veeky Forums's standards, OP is pretty inept.
Anthony Hernandez
I've seen worse.
Eli Phillips
And not you're making me think of that couple that were trying to get pregnant and after so many years talk to a doctor turns out he had been fucking her piss hole instead
Carson Hughes
You know, as a side-note. It's actually quite interesting to consider this for female adventurers. Female adventurers probably have a WHOLE lot of dating opportunities how they're powerful and rich, as compared to their initial prospects of just fucking a farmboy.
You know how women have sky-high expectations? Now, they're actually WORTH those expectations. You'd have celestials, tormented half-demon bad-boys, the handsomest and holiest knight in the kingdom, and other fantasy types all vying for your hand. That's hilarious to think about.
Austin Hernandez
Invite him over to the table to get drunk, and tell him "We all start from the same place. But it's not who we are that defines us, it's what we do."
Then we get super-laid.
Brody Sullivan
One of the NPCs in my homebrew is basically this. Former adventurer, got lucky with a couple of magic items, wound up with a noble title, castle, important station, considered the greatest beauty of the realm, and from there... who knows?
Austin Anderson
>often hitting on the barmaids, tavern waitresses/waiters, and or bar wenches. My players never do this ever. We're married adults; we don't have to role play romances or whatever ERP childish faggotry you kids get off to. We get together to have a fun game, not partake in what we called cybersex in the fucking 90ies
Evan Scott
"The problem with talking about the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. English doesn't simply borrow words; on occasion, we have been known to stalk languages down back alleys and beat them unconscious so as to rifle through their pockets for spare vocabulary."
Is this your post too?
Logan Campbell
>my tabletop gamers are too cool and adult for your shit Do you honestly think you're ever going to be anything but society's waste products like everyone else here? Jerk off over imaginary people with your friends or have imaginary fights with imaginary people with your friends, you're still the same tier of humanity - the tier where people play dungeons and dragons into their 30s.
Andrew Barnes
Oh wow, look at this guy, he's so cool. I hope I get to be like him when I grow up.
Angel Baker
Bragging about maturity points on a Korean vase painting website.
Leo Powell
I don't think I'm ever going to understand this "roleplaying games are for losers" mentlaity, especially when it comes from someone in the hobby. I mean, do you seriously think that it doesn't matter if a person is educated, professionally successful, married and generally socially functional, fit and healthy and all that, because playing RPGs is enough to make him "society's waste products" regardless of all that?
Hunter Thomas
>triggered
Luis Harris
>Nobody cared who I was until I became an adventurer.
Xavier Scott
Say the man(?) coming onto a thread about a very common trope to point out how much more mature he is than everyone else.
Henry Garcia
>using cheap fanservice >instead of Barliman Butterbur, Bob & Nob
Carson Green
But you are so mature and awesome. It shouldn't bother you.
Jeremiah Hughes
That's another quote, but this one I know the source of: James Nicoll
Given how shitty most of humanity is, I find it really weird that people who play games with their friends into their thirties are considered low-tier.
Nathaniel Brown
Everyone wants someone to feel superior to, even when it is baseless.
Ian Hernandez
I take it you play as members of sexless non-human species, like a Tolkien elf?
Camden Reed
>sexless non-human species, like a Tolkien elf? What?
Gavin Gomez
Members of a species that doesn't have sex, rather than one without biological sex. Give it fifty years of marriage, a kid or two, and LotR elves no longer bang
Jordan Fisher
And that is different from humans how?
Zachary Gomez
What are some nonstandard ways I can turn this trope on it's head?
Nicholas Martin
Make the barmaids seduce you
>captcha: extra joseph >Ultimately, Joseph was sold to Potiphar, the captain of Pharaoh's guard.[10] Later, Joseph became Potiphar's personal servant, and subsequently his household's superintendent. Here, Potiphar's wife Zuleika tried to seduce Joseph, which he refused. Angered by his running away from her, she made a false accusation of rape, and thus assured his imprisonment.[11] (Genesis 39:1-20)
I see what you did there captcha
Tyler Rodriguez
I think partly it comes down to the sense that RPGs are for escapism, pretending you're someone else instead of dealing with shit, and partly just to the fact that you're pretending at all. Little kids are all about pretending, everything from 'the floor is lava' to little girls having tea parties with their dolls. As responsibilities mount, adult minds tend to become more practical and less imaginative, and thus 'playing pretend' is a behavior associated with children, a sign of immaturity.
Blake Sullivan
>“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. >To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; >these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. >Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. >When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. >Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” C.S. Lewis
Anthony Lopez
Immersing oneself in any kind of fiction is a form of escapism, though. Action movies, romcoms, historical novels, whatever, they're all the same. Most adults engage in escapism regularly, and in moderation it's perfectly healthy and normal behavior. Adults are better at separating reality from fantasy than kids, but setting fantasies aside isn't actually a part of growing up.
Jack Russell
Large portions of the population don't know how to have fun, and when they see people having fun, they immediately declare it to be childish, because childhood was the last time they did anything imaginative or creative.
Andrew Martin
I agree, but I do think that's where people's heads go. It's the same reason genre fiction gets more hate than literary fiction. Everyone has escapism, but simultaneously looks down on other peoples' escapism.
Brayden Nguyen
If they're healthy enough, old people bang.
Memory care facilities often have significant STI problems.
It's even more hilarious when you consider a character like the cleric girl I mentioned. Imagine your experiences making you 10/10, rich, wise, powerful... And absolutely no clue how the fuck to handle it.
Mild prejudice alert: Plain girls becoming amazing and gorgeous may or may not be my magical realm.
Your words inspire the young man and simply being associated with your group means some of your celebrity status rubs off on him. After a mug of elven honey wine he confesses to the hot blonde.
He gets shot down hard, but the rest of your crew immediately squads up an takes his side. The blonde ho is in disgrace and (after three more mugs), the young man swears that he will become a hero even more renowned than you are. You suspect he won't be starting any time soon though, as tomorrow he's likely to be nursing a hangover until at least noon... Meanwhile, the cleric is hiccupping cutely and quietly crying. She always gets weepy when she's drunk.