How do you design your character's appearance? Pick a brace of images to reference off of? Or just find something "Most Similar" /pfg/ Link Repository (Pathfinder): pastebin.com/JLu5xXML /sfg/ Link Repository (Starfinder): pastebin.com/3GfJKi0y Current Playtests: pastebin.com/quSzkadj
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Dylan Ross
....mustachioed elf is cute.
Kayden Brown
Depends on the character. Sometimes I'll go concept -> art -> look, sometimes, I'll go concept -> look -> art, sometimes I'll go art -> concept -> look. Sometimes I just don't find art.
Henry Mitchell
Like? smite evil? cool feature, but only works against Evil, maybe is just my personal experience, but Evil chars are scarce as fuck in every campaign I have been into, maybe the BBEG and one or two others, which makes the Paladin shine like once in ever 20 games, not very fun.
Now that Divine Protection got nerfed well, yeah, Paladins have pretty good saves, but that's almost it, 2 level dip.
Cooper Richardson
I usually base the character off art, rather than base the art off the character.
Christopher Mitchell
Come up with the concept then look for a fitting picture,
Nathaniel Hughes
It's the last, last step. I come up with a very basic concept, then the mechanics, then backstory so as to encompass those as needed, desperately try to find an image that's appropriate, and then adjust things like hair color and appearance descriptions to match more closely.
Brayden Russell
I love that mustache.
Ethan Nguyen
"Dude, look! Moustache!" And this is how now I have the weirdest boner.
Caleb Morales
This picture is to scale. The tiny red thingy is a real life ship. The huge black blob is a Starfinder spaceship. The fun part? They have exactly the same crew size and total mass.
Nicholas Young
>manned by giants >made out of Nano-Encapsulated Aerogel What now?
Joseph Wilson
And that makes perfect sense.
Automation is a thing. Light materials are a thing. You must use light materials in shipbuilding because mass does not go away in zero g. The Drift is not real space and takes different motive powers than a pair of turnscrews run by a diesel engine.
Basically, you're fishing for replies.
David Baker
Not him, and I mostly agree, but how about artificial gravity inside the ship? how would those light as fuck materials would support stuff made for planets (like vehicles, supplies, people, droids, etc)?
The answer is syfy materials with minimal mass and max resistances
Cameron Harris
According to page 293, crew numbers are only relevant to NPC-controlled ships and PC's pilot their own ship without crew help. According to page 316, NPC's can aid another each other in combat, which massively boosts their skill capacities. According to page 327, all NPC crew members get amazing skill bonuses - by level 20, their good skills are +34, their best skills are +39. +39 is identical to what a level 20 Operative with a +8 relevant ability modifier and a +2 racial bonus to the skill would have, making it pretty amazing.
Now, let's look at the DC's. The DC's are insane - the very lowest level 20 DC's are 50, being a fuck you to anyone but Operatives and Envoys, most are in the 55-60 range, making them fairly difficult for even Operatives and Envoys who call in computer support, and some are as high as 70, being impossible for even an Operative with aforementioned skill modifier who requested computer support for a +10 and rolled a nat 20 for a total of 69. This makes for crazy difficult DC's for PC's, with PC's failing them more often as levels increase. On the other hand, increasing crew sizes massively helps NPC's, which means that NPC ships become hypercompetent with level while PC ships become increasingly incompetent with level to the point of autofailing most checks unless they call in computer support (which is at most 2 checks per round for the entire ship) and autofailing some checks EVEN WITH computer support. All in all, it seems like while low level ship combat is possible for PC's, NPC's utterly dominate and wipe the floor at high levels. Moreover, all non-Operative non-Envoy characters quickly become useless at ship combat due to incredibly brutal scaling on skill DC's.
How is this remotely sane?
Sebastian Morris
Tensile strength is not reliant on density of material user. It's reliant on the construction of the material. That's why carbon fiber nanotubes are nearly indestructible while weighing nearly nothing.
Luis Clark
I want to steal a Dreadnought and Allahu Ackbar it into a Sun City!
Nathan Phillips
>implying that just because a PC doesn't need help means he cannot get help The fact that you're stupid might have something to do with it.
Jace Nguyen
That's what the rules say. You can't be aided by the NPC's if you're a PC.
Asher Hall
....why? That's kind of rude to the explorers and research teams.
Brandon Brown
What page does it say that on?
Juan Brooks
Nobody is saying it would "break" but deformations might happen, even if it's 100% elastic ones.
Kevin Roberts
Page 293 says PC's control the ship without a crew. Page 316 specifically says that NPC ships can use aid another, thus contrasting them with PC ships.
Jaxson Sullivan
How well written are Ironman Mint Vase On and Beige Peons?
That's Ironfang Invasin and Strange Aeons respectively.
Isaiah Edwards
Deformation might be intensional, considerign hard and inflexible materials break when exposed to high stress, such as, say, THE DRIFT or gravitic/magical/psychic/physical anomalies.]
Just saying.
Logan Adams
They're filthy Sarenrites! Glory to the Black!
Caleb Cook
What SF class best suits an Admiral/Petty officer of a spaceship? Someone with not-bad skills with the saber and pistol but ultimately valuable because they have useful utility abilities when outside their ship.
Levi Sanchez
>Most androids are fully grown at the time of their birth, and can technically live forever through constant repair, though most androids voluntarily release their bodies after a century or so to allow new souls to inhabit them- a process called renewal that's viewed more as procreation than suicide.
Can someone explain how this bit of lore works? So most androids just decide to basically do a factory reset on themselves after a while? And that's normal? And then people think of the new android (also why does it get a new soul when the old one passes on) as like a child to the first, even though they have no connection of personality, experience, or childhood with them? How should non-androids view this? I just don't really understand it, not how it would work or why someone would do it, so it reasonable to assume most people wouldn't?
This just gives me so many questions.
Isaiah Jenkins
>sample image
Why.
Hunter Allen
Friendly reminder that the Inner Planes still exist in Starfinder so all real world science is bullshit!
Parker Sanchez
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Camden Smith
That's exactly what I said, no?
Ryder Foster
Why should the Drift be high stress, it's literally called the Drift, aka multi-planar drifting.
Ayden Carter
It's called 'alien culture', user. You shouldn't understand it immediately, or perhaps at all, especially if you are a player. it should, in fact, freak you the fuck out as a human, especially with how precious humans think their individual souls are.
Landon Hall
>multi-planar drifting Masaka!!
Ian Gonzalez
Unfriendly reminder that autistic idiots should not be listened to because they're so creatively bankrupt they can't comprehend the possibility of parallel systems existing in concert and tandem at the same time.
Carter Wright
Okay chief, let's have our W-bosons and gluons while there are earth elementals from the Plane of Earth where all earthy stuff comes from. And water elementals from the Plane of Water where all watery stuff comes from...
Jaxon Thompson
Yes, because drifting through multiple planes of reality and existence can't possibly be stressful on material objects.
Fuck.
Xavier Price
Reminder that while using the Drift, you have the perfect chance to have a call back to a Pathfinder campaign as the ship passes through one of your permanent demi-planes you automated to factory produce copies of yourself, leaving an entire plane to be filled to the brim with clones of a gray haired old man.
Matthew Gomez
The concept of spiritual reality intersection with physical reality is so old that they actually have their roots in hunter-gatherer societies, user.
Literally, the idea that the physical worlds and the spiritual world are interconnected and also separate is a basic precept of shamanic tradition since humans still used their knuckles to walk. It is not that hard to grasp.
Blake Campbell
I have plans to do exactly this. My theory on drift is that its using pre Gap space where demiplanes where held. One of these days the party will have their ships malfunction and crash into one of the demiplanes created by our many PCs who achieved immortality from one way or the other and be in for a surprise as old characters make cameos and offer to sell PF wondrous items in exchange for information on the new world.
Tyler Lewis
You know, there's literally a massive library in one of the Pathfinder books that's nothing but a demiplane that eats other demiplanes. Maybe it's related.
Andrew Davis
Page 316 does not say NPCs can use aid another during ship combat phases.
Page 316 says that the officer requires the assistance of a minimum amount of crew in order to operate on those ships. In fact, it specifically notes that the individual crew members do not take turns.
Ship combat is in phases. Aid another can't even be used in ship combat by anyone, NPC or PC.
Anthony Baker
But the book says the skill modifier of each individual crew member, and it's massive. There's very little leeway to interpret "assist" as anything other than "aid another".
Eli Martin
Sure but the Inner Planes are literally reality's building blocks.
Lincoln Fisher
There is very little leeway to interpret "assist" because "assist" isn't "aid another" so it's not "aid another". Why would you inject a tactical combat action into the explanation of phase-based ship combat?
Stats are defined because the officers clearly use those stats.
Nathan Stewart
How many teeth have your character lost over his/her career? Did you replace them with gold ones?
Austin Morales
Well sure, that's fine, but I still want to know how the process works. Why does the Android body just get a new soul? That doesn't happen to anybody else, a human can die and then have their corpse repaired but no new soul is going to enter it. Also, what does this mean for attempting to revive an Android that's undergone renewal? Does it erase the current soul inhabiting that body, or make a new body, or just fail?
Gavin Reyes
>it would take hours to resolve a single round Oh ho ho ho.
Gavin Hughes
Even if that reading is right, it just means high level DC's are retarded for everyone. As said, an Operative can't hit the DC 60 DC without computer support and struggles with the DC 55 without computer support. Computer support is extremely limited, so your average high level ship will be failing most checks all over, with incompetence increasing with levels.
Cooper Hall
Nice picture ruined with the stache.
Elijah Sanders
None! He a good boy about them teeth.
Thomas Cox
Why does he deserve a +4 magic item at 5th level but not my monk, who has 0 magic items beyond healing potions?
Henry Phillips
His grow back in the matter of minutes and feel nothing and he uses them to bite fully armored men and tears them out if something is stuck between them, so I would say that where others of his charisma leave a trail of broken hearts he leaves a trail of broken teeth.
Hunter Jenkins
There's a difference between 'deserving of pity' and 'deserving of being put down'.
Wyatt Phillips
In SF, is there a maximum amount of ranks you can put in a skill at each level, or can you dump all your points into one or two skills if you so choose?
Cameron Thompson
Which are his stats and feats? maybe he's underpowered and that's why the GM threw him a bone
Ayden Sullivan
20, 14, 16, 9, 12, 9 Pretty sure these are some of his feats: Power attack Furious focus Weapon focus (greatsword) Weapon specialization (greatsword) Cleave
He has a fullplate, ring of swimming or whatever, and now an adamantine +2 undead bane dragon bane greatsword
My equipment barely reaches 300 gp
And like I said in the previous thread, no magic item feats allowed, no magic item market yet because city is in development (we can only buy stuff belog 300 gp), and magic items found in encounters are rolled but it's always +1 leather armor (we have now 5), some mithral light armors, some darkwood bows and quarterstaves, some scrolls, some rings but none +1 something only stuff like swimming or that one that lets you survive with 50% or so of food and water, a +1 dagger, and that motherfucking greatsword that costs literally more than everything we found so far
Anthony Kelly
>In SF, is there a maximum amount of ranks you can put in a skill at each level 1/level
Daniel Martin
Anyone else hate it when you spend about thirty hours proofreading, editing and writing an app only to not get in the game because of something that GM didn't mention?
Ian Jenkins
The whole culture of apps are retarded You should pick players first, characters second
Bentley Hall
God damnit. Cannot unsee.
Gavin Nelson
>Expecting quality design from Paizo
Have you learned nothing, sweet child of mine?
Jack Campbell
Where do whores go?
Elijah Morris
Hell, mostly.
Angel Green
To jail usually, depending on the current country's laws on prostitution.
Jayden Nguyen
>because of something that GM didn't mention? wut
Leo Cox
A better question; what are brothels like in Cheliax?
Owen Bailey
Full of Tieflings.
Jace Reed
Yep. Not a very good feeling.
Asher Watson
Tell me about it!
Robert Sanchez
Missionary Position only.
Brody Allen
That close to Nidal, though?
Dominic Taylor
Zon-Kuthon is an incredibly active deity, user. They love missionary work and missionary positions.
Adam Edwards
What are operative gunners trying to roll to beat DC 60 for? The highest level ship that I can find is the Tyrant, and it has an AC of 28 and a TL of 26.
Are you referring to gunnery attack rolls? An operative who is equal level to the Tyrant and has put max ranks into piloting has over a 50% chance to hit the Tyrant without computers, captains, or dex modifiers, whether or not the Tyrant is using stunts.
Otherwise I'm not sure what this DC60 is.
Oliver Phillips
Skill checks, m8. All skill checks fall into one of the following DC categories: >10+2*Tier >15+2*Tier >20+2*Tier >10+3*Tier
Owen Hernandez
It's time to accept that he's secretly a DMPC and move on.
Ayden Jackson
I want to duo app as a Chewie and Fuckface pair in Starfinder.
Grayson Stewart
That's Pathfinder skill scaling. Starfinder uses generally lower numbers for everything.
Jason Russell
Those DC's are from the starship combat chapter. I literally looked through the chapter and marked down all DC's that ever appear there - all of them fell into one of those categories. In other words, they kept DC scaling from Pathfinder, but nerfed skill modifier scaling, which is retarded.
David Powell
Like this?
Jeremiah Foster
Yes!
Colton Kelly
Can I use monkey style with a bow user?
Nolan Price
Climbing requires both hands free.
Jordan Lee
Starfinder campaign when?
Brayden Baker
I gotta finish reading this rulebook first!
Luis Kelly
Tell me about the campaign idea you have in mind!
Daniel Morgan
Probably let my microphile preference out again and run a world visiting colonization campaign. Imaginw Tiny people visiting the worlds of giants and helping them out with stuff in exchange for supplies.
Might use some of the meme ideas from /pgg/
Juan Collins
Should my Starfinder Elf be a melee expert, or a big shoot-banger?
Zachary Bell
?? Monkey style doesn't do what you think it does
Daniel Brown
Do it!
Logan Johnson
Are there any pathfinder spells that will allow me to drift a wagon?
Gavin Watson
Is there a table for drift travel? I can't find anything in the CRB.
Luis Taylor
I like how the Starstone is basically the Golden Throne, and any ship traveling to Absalom Station (regardless of distance) can do so within 1d6 days.
Austin Thompson
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Matthew Gonzalez
>You would you like to know more?
[YES]
David Turner
oi
Sebastian Collins
Not that user but I'll probably do one set shortly after the gap. Vesk are still hostile aliens are still alien and PCs have to deal with culture shock for the first time and I'll probably cut that corporation shit out of the story completely.
Adrian Richardson
But what if I wanted to play a Vesk?
Nicholas Cruz
Nobody can run their custom campaigns until Alien Archieve drops You can only run Adventure Path
Zachary King
That would be the point. You can play any Ayylmao but dealing with adversity would be one of the challenges. I know SF current setting is ultra progressive and while that kind of makes things PC, I'd like aliens to feel you know... alien. Even when dealing with other aliens.