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pretty cool guy
kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything

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According to Destiny he's a Guardian with very powerful light but chose to stay asleep in the Cosmodrome because he's seen enough war for several life times.

Obviously he'd be a Titan.

fucking love that series so much holy shit

get the fuck out of here

Better than a new thread my guy

3WR
Legendary Creature- Human Soldier
First Strike, Haste, Exalted
Whenever iron chef attacks alone, you may tap target legendary creature an opponent controls.

4/4

Is this actually true or have any sort of legitimacy to it? I haven't really touched destiny or bothered to look deeper into any lore it has.

It's a call out from bungie to their old IP. It's not exactly said to be Master Chief but read between the lines and it is.

youtube.com/watch?v=KcOkkgxH-Ss

STR 17
DEX 16
CON 16
INT 12
WIS 14
CHA 8

Saving Throws in STR +6, DEX +8 and CON +6
Feat: Lucky Additional +5 to All Saving Throws
Feat: Super Soldier Expertise in Acrobatics, Athletics, and Stealth and Survival, can Leap 20ft without requiring a skill check, takes half fall damage.
Feat: CQC Specialist +10 to Hit with all Martial attacks and deals double Strength bonus in Damage
Item: Powered Armor - Gives +5 to STR and CON; +8 to AC
Item: Portable Shield Generator - Grants 48 Temporary Hitpoints, which regenerate 8 points a round after not taking damage of any kind for 2 rounds. Shield is resistant to slashing and piercing damage but vulnerable to lightning, thunder and fire.

Expertise in all Melee Weapons, Expertise in Crossbows, Prificient with any other Weapon.

HE TAKES A FUCKING NUKE TO THE FACE FUCK
LIKE, IT WAS RIGHT IN HIS HANDS
Halo would've be so much better without Space Jesus.

>halo would have been so much better without 343i

fixed it also trips + dubs

You guys are stating him that. Why? Also what is with the low Cha, he is literally space jesus with jokes and puns out the ass.

He's a bioengineered superweapon with autism. His tactical thinking skills, raw strength, superhuman reflexes and ridiculous endurance as well as rigorous schooling means he's basically good at everything and excellent at anything combat or survival related except chit chat.

He has low Charisma because he's well, a bioengineered superweapon who went through rigorous schooling. He was taught how to follow orders and kill, he doesn't say much, he can form close bonds but he's not a wise cracking loveable scamp. He's a killing machine. That's all he really knows how to do.
A soldier, bred from childhood to kill.

343i is noncanon as are most of the books as far as I'm concerned. Bungie portrayed him in a very specific way.

this ad infinitum

Stop pushing this Autism meme. He has on multiple occasions shown to be charismatic and caring of his fellow soldier and beyond that. Stop pushing this crap. On top of that his Int should be around 16 as well as Wis if not higher. He was genetic cream of the crop so all the stats should be inflated. The only person who has a higher Cha than Chief is Kurt who has probably a 18-20.

Like fucking when you maroon.

Halo 1-3 he has about 15 lines total.

He's a good leader of his fellow Spartans, but he's explicitly not a great personality. He barely talks and mostly does his stuff on his own.

fair

if hes going to have any sort of charisma stats then it has to be for persuasion and intimidation

I think it would be fine to give him two other Feats

Legendary Warrior: +10 to all Persuasion rolls for friendly or neutral NPCs who know of his reputation and+10 to all Intimidation rolls
Team Leader: Uhh I dunno how to make that work as a feat actually. Gives nearby allies +AC? Saving throws?

Some kind of boost to the tactical ability of his nearby Spartans.

I think you meant to call me a moron, not a color of red...
Have you not read the books? He literally interacts with soldiers all the time who are facing certain death and inspires them with confidence. Also do you not understand how he reacts to people dying? People he cares about? Whether they are Spartan or not, Chief has shown compassion and grief not something a person with turbo super soldier autism should be doing. He also reads an ODST in 5 seconds in First Strike and cools him off and asserts the situation.
"They let me pick, did I ever tell you that? Choose whichever Spartan I wanted. You know me. I did my research, watched as you became the soldier we needed you to be. Like the others you were strong and swift and brave, a natural leader. But you had something they didn't. Something no one saw but me. Can you guess? Luck. Was I wrong?"
-Opening of Halo 3

The spartans were natural leaders who were then trained to be even better ones on top of that. There is a reason why people start going hell yeah a spartan this battle is as good as won!

so basically chief is gonna be stated to shit for everything........

sounds good to me my niggas

I very much meant to call you a maroon. It's an insult.
You fuckin maroon.

Oh wow it is, learn something new everyday. Next time actually attempt to refute my point you mongoloid. Then insult me.

Not Master Chief/10

The books flesh his personality out more but most of his lines and emotions are expressed as thoughts instead of vocalizations. The Chief isn't necessarily uncharismatic he's just not one for redundant talk. His leadership skills are less out of a natural charisma and more borne out of a sheer capability and set of skills which inspire confidence in those around him. They don't follow him because he's charismatic, they follow him because they know he's the best of the best.

i think he's just memeing you

idk maybe not

John is the last spartan. A military weapon that had a propaganda campaign behind them unmatched by anything that universe had seen. Nearly every background character we see him interact with is awestruck by seeing a spartan.

His leadership skills borrow heavily from this. The average marine ordered to charge from a trench by John as he runs past is going to trip over themselves to follow because it's a fucking spartan. So we can take away inspiring followers from his charisma as he can do it without even talking.

>Cortana
Obviously his closest friend. We do see a banter form between these two after saving each other multiple times and matching senses of humor. However nothing cortana does goes against what would be expected of her programming for any other spartan.

While I'm a huge MC fanboy, charismatic he is not. He is excellent at military style leadership but not much beyond that... because he was not trained to go beyond that.

I already told you, I don't consider the books canon. Bungie didn't write them, Bungie had basically nothing to do with them, they were Microsoft's doing for extra money.

The only characterization I care about is the John we see in game. Who is anything but charismatic.
He is confident, he is inspiring, he is calm and collected, and people will follow him because they know he knows what he's doing.
But he's not going to be giving any grand speeches, he's not going to be the suave James Bond. He inspires through deeds, not action. His lack of Charisma has nothing to do with his ability to lead, Charisma is an abstraction of a person's charm.

Master Chief isn't charming. He's terrifying. Depending on which side of the gun you're on that's a rallying beacon of hope or a demon.

I'm sorry, meant to say he inspired through deeds, not words.

>I already told you, I don't consider the books canon.
Well then your entire argument can be dismissed, because like it or not, the books are part of the official Halo canon.

Don't like it? Tough shit.

343i Halo is also part of the official canon.
The official canon can suck a bag of dicks. I don't care what incompetent corporations tell me.

>John is the last spartan.
And we're done arguing...

His leadership skill is derived from several things including him just being good at talking to and understand people like it states in the goddamn books. Although I will credit that Spartans naturally inspire confidence they are all literally taught on how to lead, they had the best military training anyone could get.

Cha is several things, including how other people view you and how capable you are of reading people. Granted you are right he would not find himself comfortable in like a nightclub or something, but he defiantly does not have a fucking 8.

Well then we are at a disagreement in fundamental canon. So we can at least agree to disagree. However can we at least agree he does not have a fucking 8, maybe not a 18, but still not an 8.

OP here, just thought of this pic while reading through replies. Prepare for feels

I feel ya bro.

Here are your stats

Is that from the Halo tabletop game that got discontinued a few years ago?

Not really.
There was a Halo Tabletop game made from the people that made Heroclix.

Then they Remade alot of the figures as "Heroclix" versions of them....
So they could be play in the normal game.

They are suppose to be compatible even with the Iron Maiden version.

Shit this reminds me of some tabletop XMen game I had as a kid.
I remember the Wolverine hit harder the closer to being KO'd he was or something, and when he was at death's door he couldn't even attack but was super hard to hit?

Maybe that's just my memory being really fucky.

He takes a charisma hit due to his shitty new armor design

maybe, just maybe

Thanks for the nostalgia rush

oh we are we are the red team!
oh we are we are the red team!

>good at talking to and understand people like it states in the goddamn books
We wasn't good at talking or charismatic, in the books after he killed some ODST in a brawl he started to chose his actions and words around non-spartan personnel. He also accepted that he and the spartans became a symbol of heroism, and acted the role.

In between the events of Halo 1-2 his social skills and views on normal soldiers vastly improve as he found himself fighting side by side with them.

still don't get why 343 took the sleek, functional and agile looking armors of the previous games and made them into bloated, poorly designed fatsuits.

The in-universe reason is outsourcing the armor to different corporations.

Able to change his armor in cryosleep/10

still doesn't give them a good reason to make the armor types all look like ASS

>he doesn't like ass

It's amusing you are statting him like this when every Spartan 2 was literally the best genetic example of humanity that could be found in terms of biological limits, and were further enhanced physically.
That was the entire point, they were born superior, and then you give them stats that are achievable on an average optimized pc.

>Halo 1-3 he has about 15 lines total.
That's more of an industry and mechanical caveat that one that reflects on the MC's character.
It was typical of 90's and early 00's fps protags to be silent; Duke Nukem was an INCREDIBLE outlier, and was noted because he was so vocal, often reactive to the situation.
See also Rookie and Noble 6, who were also "player avatars" like MC, rather than their own characters like the rest of Noble Team or Buck's odst squad.

Nanosuit soldiers in gameplay are like Spartans in lore.

Spartans in gameplay would be weaker than the regular Ceph enemies.

>every Spartan 2 was literally the best genetic example of humanity
They looked for genetic markers that would allow the augmentations to work, not for the genetic best.

>I don't consider the books canon. Bungie didn't write them, Bungie had basically nothing to do with them
Bungie considered the books canon with the sole exception of the Halo CE novelization and Reach after the game came out.
You are relying on fancanon at this point, and it undermines your argument when you are openly displaying how you pick and choose to support your own means.
343 can do as they want, but we don't need to use their work as a litmus.

They changed the armor because the mocap actors could not move in the Halo 1-3 versions of the armor; it was not built for actual people to move in, had no range of motion.
They were one in the same, user.

I second this. That is why I was so surprised about them.

>armor designed to only be used by supersoldiers with mechanical assistance can't be used by regular humans

You don't say. That's a shitty excuse I've never heard, however, and still wouldn't justify such a dramatic change. Not to mention the non Spartan armor changes which also looked terrible.
Furthermore the mocap was an awful idea. The "fights" look like some B movie action scene. Not a walking tank that can shatter steel with his fists going ham.

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that being said the art style was dickhole in 5, so many sets just looked fucking ugly.

>Furthermore the mocap was an awful idea. The "fights" look like some B movie action scene. Not a walking tank that can shatter steel with his fists going ham

fucking this

Alright well, let's break it down.

>picked from the most compatible (best) genetic stock
+2 to All Stats

>strongest kid on the playground, nobody could knock him off his hill
+2 to STR and CON

>natural leader
+2 to INT, WIS, CHA

>physically tested and pushed to him limits for years
+2 to STR, DEX, CON
-1 to CHA

>combat protocol drilled into his brain figuratively, think on your feet, be practical, be precise, kill anything without a UNFC ID tag, socially stunted as a result
+1 INT and DEX, -1 CHA

>rigorous study under the best minds in the universe
+2 INT, WIS

>genetically enhanced with super soldier serum
+4 to STR, DEX, CON

So starting at a base of 10, John would be
20 STR
19 DEX
20 CON
17 INT
16 WIS
12 CHA

As a Supersoldier who went through rigorous training he'd have
Saving Throws in Strength, Dexterity and Constitution
Base speed of 50ft, can Dash for an additional 75 feet each turn
Automatically passes his first 5 Exhaustion Checks
Does not take Fall Damage from less than 40ft
Can jump an extra 10ft
Expertise in Acrobatics, Athletics, Perception, Stealth and Survival
Proficient in Deception, Insight, Intimidation, Investigation, Medicine, and Sleight of Hand
Base +4 to Initiative before other modifiers
d12 Hit Dice
+8 to Hit with Unarmed Strikes and Melee Weapons
+10 to Hit with all Aimed Weapons

He's Lucky, so a +4 bonus to All Saving Throws

Mjollnir Suit grants bonuses to STR, DEX, CON, let's assume it's the Mk IV as this is a baseline John, at the start of the Covenant's War. To quote the books it
>Woven by molecular tools into a superdense layer, this layer is amorphous, yet it amplifies force, doubling lifting capability and increasing reaction time by a factor of five
So I'd say
>all Strength Bonuses are Doubled
>carrying capacity Dooubled
>+5 to Dex Saving Throws
Furthermore the suit also
>a "smart" motion-sensing radar. The suit also contains a built-in oxygen re-breather system that can provide air for up to ninety minutes.

So he's immune to anything that damages or incapacitates due to oxygen manipulation or breathable spells or traps, as well as automatically detecting anything within an unspecified radius of him as long as it's moving faster than a slow sneak.

The various training and anti Rebel missions would ahve given him a fair bit of experience to work with, I'd say he'd be level 4 or 5 here. So depending on which ruleset you're using you can customize him a bit further, but this gives up an average starting health of 40 + his CON modifier at each level, so assuming he;s level 5 here, he'd have 65 Hitpoints and 5d12 Hit Dice.

M 4
WS 3+
BS 3+
S4
T4
W1
I4
LD10

4+/6++/FNP6+

Fearless,

Inspiring Presence: humans in 12" re-roll failed morale

I am not going to cover all the weapons from HALO.

>Not a walking tank that can shatter steel with his fists going ham
Curiously, fights previously weren't actually close to that. Cutscene-wise Chief wasn't anywhere close to his book counterpart.

You are giving a named character 1 wound?
What kind of cunt are you?

I can't recall any cutscenes with the Chief engaging in rigorous CQC before 343i.

I wanted to like the new trilogy but fuck the SIVs, fuck 343's hateboner for Halsey and fuck them for finally having blue team in a game but they don't do shit

There weren't ANY cutscenes of Chief doing anything of note, similar to the 90's shooters Halo is based on.

That's really it. We see Chief dropping Covenant bombs on their own ships & shit but little to no fighting.

chief could probably beat people to death with just his dick

That's because they let you do the cool shit, for the most part, instead of having you watch Chief do cool shit in a cutscene.

You beat a Prophet to death. You carve through an entire Covenant Battalion. You fight through an endless horde of Flood. You are the Chief when you play Bungie Halo.

The problem that stems is people using the video game to judge lore when the game mechanics are lore agnostic at best, and then never anything in cutscenes to show exactly what the chief can do.
The games were simply games, and you honetly need the novels to get anything like a better look at the series.

AC +12 (+20 in MAXIMUM ARMOR mode)
Fuckton of stat buffs
-4 CHA

youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88

skip to 0:32 and 1:44 just for those clips

I dislike the idea that there is a "right way" to do a protag.
Blank slate for self insertion is alright, but it is far from the best, and I'd argue it's the easiest route to take when the character the player interacts with most has no words or personality that you must work with.

Sure but 343i's rendition of Chief was both unnecessary and garbage.

I can't even agree, Halo 4 and 5 were the only ones that had him making decisions for himself, with his own words, rather than literally letting Cortana do ALL the talking for him.
What I disliked with Bungie was how MC spoke to NO ONE, not even comrades or his CO. Cortana handled all speaking rolls, and that is why Halo 3 was oddly quiet.
In 343's version, he spoke with an air of weary calm and command, told Cortana what they were going to do rather than the other way around, actually came across as experienced and self assured in demeanor and conduct, rather than being told about it and seeing npcs be worshipful of him.
343 made MC a better character on all the motes that make a character precisely because Bungie did NOTHING with his character at all. 343 did not make a better Halo game.

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John prior to Halo 4 barely spoke. He had his speaking scenes but Cortana handled most of it. I liked how Halo 4 had so much speaking between John & Cortana. The partnership seems less one-sided.

Shit I totally forgot the Con modifier. He should have 280 Hitpoints then.

Okay my bad, I was stating a Spartan, not Master Chief. His stats should be pretty much all higher.

Stat him, Veeky Forums.

>no LUCK

-10 hp

14 STR
15 DEX
12 CON
12 INT
13 WIS
16 CHA

-10HP

>14 str
>could be brutes to death with his bare hands

It takes a shitton of melee attacks to kill a Brute on Heroic. Melee is gimped heavily in ODST.

youtube.com/watch?v=VKanxNE-FT4
When he is fighting the brute.