Fantasy setting has airships

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Yes it does. If an airship powered by magic rather than air is still an airship then a car powered by magic rather than internal combustion is still a car.

>obvious bait
Yes, yes, we know airships came before everything you mentioned and we know airships are lighter than air flight... we get it...

Okay but then its not a car, its an airship.

Why build a wheeled vehicle with a levitation spell? What are the wheels for, besides landing equipment?

Its pointless.

>setting has limited landmass/other reasons road and train infrastructure isn't as viable

also this

You use the levitation spell to impart forward acceleration rather than both forward and upward acceleration.

>Fantasy setting has horses
>Doesn't have thermonuclear reactors

>a regular ship with some magic to make it light as air is somehow more complicated than serious infrastructure, internal combustion, and a myriad of other things

>doesn't even have atomic horses
Its a zebra but you get the idea.

Who said the levitation spell made it go forward at all?

>setting has golems
>doesn't have theory of machine learning and advanced artificial neural networks
dropped that shit gm faster than my grades.

Bit daft then wouldn't it be?

See

You get your servants to pull it, duh.

>forward acceleration

You would still need streets for that feggit. Long ass streets in a political fractured landscape that lacks the needed political and financial capital to build such long roads. Otherwise you crash into a tree.

And I don't see why the fuck they would do that in the first place. An Airship has greater military and economic value than a forward levitating Cart.

This setting is so underrated. Almost no one seems to know it but it's seriously one of those fantasy settings that's truly well developed and unique. I wish there'd ne an rpg for this, preferably in the first age of flight of course.

Pull an airship? You mean like a kite?

But you can make a lot more carts and you can camouflage them. Why bother flying an airship over the enemy when you can accomplish the same thing with self-propelled trebuchets?

Kite war but with people in the kites is a neat idea. I was thinking more like this but it floats, or like fancy carriages but pulled by drudges who are whipped by your coachmen.

why bother moving self-propelled tretbuchets through potentially dangerous lands if you could just fly an airship over the enemy?

>but it floats on air not water
there we go

They'll see your airship coming for miles and airships don't have excellent point defenses.

Being thousands of feet up in the air seems like a pretty good defense to me. What is the enemy going to do? Shoot me with tretbuchets?

How are you going to achieve anything of military value from thousands of feet up in the air?

You drop stones on the enemy tretbuchets.

Arrows would do little to nothing against a decent sized airship

Dropping rocks.

>edge chronicles
Good shit right there

Maybe he's going for scorched earth.

Similar thing people with airplanes achieve but you also have wizards. It would be messed up bad times for people on the ground.

Can anyone mention a setting that does this?

Creating a perfect orihalcum sphere of a big enough size to sustain an effectively permanent flight field is a daunting and prohibitively expensive task on par with constructing a giant pyramid, or some other wonder of the world.

From thousands of feet up? How do you plan to hit anything?

By what means?

If you're at a stage where you can shoot or drop explosives like how people with airplanes achieve things then you shouldn't really be feeling so safe just because you're in the air anymore. Same deal with wizards.

>From thousands of feet up? How do you plan to hit anything?
Sounds like you're not throwing enough rocks, my friend.

I've noticed, even though airplanes can be shot down, we still have airplanes. Weird.

How many do you plan on carrying?

We also have land vehicles, and quite a lot more of them than we do aircraft, so I don't see the point you're trying to make.

>you: air ships have no military value because they can be shot down
>everyone else: you're retarded

I'm not saying they have *no* military value at all. I'm just saying that land-based solutions are viable alongside them and economical enough that there would be the impetus to develop both.

>We also have land vehicles, and quite a lot more of them than we do aircraft
Because aircraft are incredibly fucking expensive, not because they're unimportant. Air superiority is much more relevant in the modern world

How do you plan on hitting anything with tretbuchets? Are you literally retarded?

Don't be silly, man, it's much easier to aim a trebuchet accurately than an airborne launch solution.

Okay, chill. Didn't seem like that if you're the one who asked
>How are you going to achieve anything of military value from thousands of feet up in the air?

Aircraft are important in the modern world because they can shoot and drop explosives. Without hot weapons they're only much good for reconnaissance and you'd want to back them up with viable offensive platforms.

The focus of that question was the "thousands of feet" part. You'd have to lower yourself, possibly within range of enemy anti-air, in order to carry out offensive actions with any degree of effectiveness.

Airships aren't heavier than air flight you galloping hypertard.

>maybe the floor is larva?

Not OP but I'm just psyched to see some OFF love. Fuckin love that game

nah man, if you already have magical flying machines and we're playing pretend like this, its perfectly reasonable to say a telescope or wizard can help you accurately drop rocks, bombs, fireballs, etc.

Even a telescope to see what troop movements are is a huge military advantage.

>possibly within range of enemy anti-air
Like what? At this point you should be within their walls, are they going to shoot the airship with a fucking trebuchet?

Golems are 100% magic. No machinery in there unless it's clockwork.

>scouting
you know that thing you do on the ground
but without all the things that block your vision

also drawing good maps

>economic impetus

You need a shitton of logistical stuff to use landbased solutions on a comparable level.

Airship:

>levitation spell
>wood corpus
>mages for shielding and offensive capabilities
>rocks
>simple landing pads

>land based propulsion system with ranged capabilities aka. armoured car with trebuchet

>streets
>pioneers to make harsh terrain traversable (rivers for example)
>logistical chain for ammounition and spare parts
>military escorts to protect the land based system
>wizards for anti air, otherwise airships are just going to rape you because the other stuff you have available won't hurt airships
>no recon value
>dependent on the rest of the army for recon

And what tf is such a system supposed to achieve that a regular trebuchet can't? Its a siege weapon that can be built at the needed location.

>>maybe the floor is larva

>>rocks
There's the problem with that idea. At best you can harass the enemy if all you have are rocks to drop.

Why levitate an entire airship then?

his roil magistys, para-shoot reg-e-iment re-poting for de-uty SIR!

>proof Russians are black
Nice.

it's easer to draw on a solid surface?

That's a question, I suppose. How useful are paratroopers without guns?

bout as useful as ones with swords, axes and possibly spears.

>conveniently ignoring offense mages

Yeah...

Or what about a barrel with a exploding magic artifcat controlled by a mage ? Thats an effective bomb?

Or just dropping liquid greek fire and igniting that with a fireball. And idk why the airship should fly super high at all times. Against enemy infantry it could just sink and really crush formations with mid sized rocks.

Oh look we basically have a multirole fighter.

Just as useful as today if the other side doesn't have guns. The worth of paratroopers is rapid deployability behind enemy lines, unparalleled area denial and quick reaction against enemy movements.

You could just cut off enemy supply lines with a few drops.

What you're overlooking is the usage of airships for logistics. Even zeppelins could go pretty fucking fast, definitely faster than anything available to a medieval civilization, and you could always take the most direct route

Also another excellent point. Sieges for example now only work with air superiority or at least enough anti-air measures

My setting does have trains actually.

>setting has spears
>doesn't have a unifying scientific theory of everything

God damn love me some fantasy trains. You can put anything on a train and the players will have to deal with it. Where are they going to go instead? They're literally on my railroad!