Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

>waiting for Cron codex
>no release in sight
>underpowered vs imperial/heretics
>can predict stratagems regardless since this edition was made for children
>by the time codex comes out 8th will be over and 9th will be even more dumbed down

Why can I not simply move on?

40k survey time!
Time to see what kinda community Veeky Forums is
So here's some questions
>what army do you play
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
>do you own any forge world?
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?

You probably already have cancer due to using Veeky Forums at all. Didn't you ever read the fine print at the bottom? If you're posting and not wearing a mask now, it's too late.

Nah, with Chinese resin they might make it with dangerous shit. You'll know because it will reek of petrol.

You are troops light, and your troops are just standing around with their dicks out while your tanks make up the bulk of your army. They look like an afterthought.

Pay 225 to buy 3 chimeras and put your infantry in them at the very least. Pay another 120 for a 4th squad and chimera, another 30 for a second company commander so you have enough orders to go around for them, put hunter killer missiles on everything.

>>what army do you play
Deathguard, eldar, and tyranids

>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
mainly choppy but you got to bring shooty a little

>>do you own any forge world?
Yea, CSM line is pants on head retarded without legion upgrade kits

>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I allow it, its all one company

>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
swooping hawks

>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Macha

How do I do orks without hundreds of boyz or dredmob?

>>what army do you play
Marines (main army), crons, daemons, 1k sons, orks, gaurd
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Depends on the list.
>>do you own any forge world?
Yes
>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Yes.
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Vindicators.
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
SoB.

>what army do you play
Death Guard, am new so go for one of the starter set guys.
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mixed
>do you own any forge world?
Nope, don't plan to. That shit is expensive and gives you cancer.
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I'd probably allow it, FW is not for me but I guess other people can fuck around with it why not.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Soul Grinders. They are terrible at shooting and unreliable at melee. Give them power of the machine spirit at least.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
I dunno, Eldar or something?

>what army do you play
GK main, with BA, Orks, DE/Ynnari, Necrons and Imperial Fists in various stages of development.

>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Primarily choppy. Learning how to do shooty though.

>do you own any forge world?
No and no plans to in the forseeable future.

>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
If you have easy access to the rules and the FW model for it, sure.

>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Paladins. They need to be cheaper. Okay, I kid. In all seriousness? Wyches probably. They are still very very meh.

>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Celestine.

>death guard
>those 7s

Nurgle bless

Scarab Terminators are quite good, everyone gets a 4 shot s4 -2 gun. Soulreaper is like a grav cannon for 15 points, Hellfyre is only 22 instead of 50 like a cyclone. You get one of each per 5 guys. No penalty to fire with moving. All is Dust is better for them since it keeps them at 2+ vs heavy bolters and assault cannons. They're only 40 points each with basic loudout. I'd bring 10.

Can superman even get drunk?
Also I feel ya man, my necrons feel like underdogs in every game they play when the "muh reanimate!!" High starts to wear off
I still enjoy playing them even if they are shit, is recomend getting a monolith or kitbashing one since the model is shit, that's breathed some new life back into my army
>tfw your monolith "carrying" 10 immortals dies turn one to a massive deep strike and you still manage to tie the game

Some chapter forges are capable of producing some vehicles. Otherwise they order them from forge worlds through their Techmarines. Remember that Techmarines have joint allegiance to their chapter and the Adeptus Mechanicus.

>IG
>Everything
>Yes, quite a bit
>Allow it
>chimera, since I'm biased
>The Callidus assassin, assuming I can convince her to shapeshift into a young Christina Hendricks first

Nobz? Speed freaks? Mek gunz? Pick one of the specialist detachments and go nuts, dude. Out of the three, the nobz option is probably the weakest, IMO but they are all casual levels of solid. Now if you're looking to top 8 in a tourney, I am not your guy so I can't help you there. Sorry man.

>what army do you play
>Death Guard

>Nope, don't plan to. That shit is expensive and gives you cancer.
>gives you cancer

you make papa sad!

>what army do you play
Orks and GSC
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix, though I probably lean toward choppy
>do you own any forge world?
Nope
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I probably wouldn't care. If something very specific was a problem, I could see banning shit on a per model basis.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
I want to start SoB and get an Exorcist purely for looks. So it being buffed as well would be nice.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Celestine

T'au

Shooty

One of those Great Unclean Ones because I love the model. But I don't use it.

I would allow FW stuff.

Sniper Drones.

A THICC Earth Caste lady.

Anyone know what model is this ? I mean the green one

If I take them into chimeras, shouldn't I just ditch the Autocannon teams tho ? I just don't really see the point in putting my dudes into transports other than making them more durable. They can't shoot from Chimeras and the Commander can't issue order either. For the price of 3 chimeras, wouldn't it just better to take 4 more squads ?

Also, thoughts on giving more than the bare minimum weapons to the Battletanks ?

More like Psi-Titans when to shoo away the elf scum

Nah, I'm not looking for tourney wins at all, just casual level, really.

>guard and necrons
>mostly shooty but I always like to throw in a bit of choppy for screening
>yes, mostly cool guard stuff, no broken shit... yet
>id allow it, if things got out of control or if one asshole starting bringing broken shit I'd have some restrictions and maybe a ban list if it got really bad
>chimeras, since I own six and love mech guard
>a sister of battle who's actually a boy

Trukks with Tank Busters, Burna Boyz, or Skorcha nobs inside, Bikers, Stormboyz, and Kommandos. Mega nobz in a Battlewagon or a Kill Tank, Mek Gunz with Kustom Mega Kannons.

Then yea, go with any of those three detachments and go nuts. I like the idea of speed freakz and storm boyz tearing it up the battlefield myself but I really really love fast units. You go do you and have fun at it.

>been waiting for new IG models for ages
>new edition rolls around, 5 power armor codices planned to come out in first 6 months, no sign of IG anywhere
>by oversight of designers, IG is overpowered, making everyone hate them
>don't even have the shine of newness to make the unending sea of salt tolerable. You have old models and everyone hates you for existing anyway
>Undoubtedly GW will overreact and supernerf you when a book finally arrives, rendering you meh tier for another 6-7 years

Shit this is a good point

>Can Superman even get drunk?

Not under usual circumstances.

>T'au
>Shooty
>No
>I would run two tournaments - one for everything and one for non-FW
>__grots__
>pic related - I would kiss her asshole with tounge

Looks like Chaos has an early lead. Can it hold?

>>what army do you play
Tyranids / Orks / SoB
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Choppy / Mixed / Get Fucked Tanks (Melta Shooty)
>>do you own any forge world?
Does my Armourcast Exocrane count?
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Warriors / Nobs / Take your pick
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
...SoB...? Maybe cultistchan?

>Army
Horus Heresy Sons of Horus/Luna Wolves can't really play them with most people since HH didn't/probably won't get an 8th port, will probably look into mechanicum soon and maybe a xeno/horde type army

>Style
Hybrid, but emphasis on closer range

>Own ForgeWorld
It's a Horus Heresy army, shouldn't be hard to guess

>Allow ForgeWorld
Yeah, don't have a problem with it at all, just don't be that guy in general

>Buffed
I want Horus Heresy in a less dumbed down 8th

>Kiss
Which race has the best thicc and tall women?

1st of all, you need to have a company or platoon commander in your army for each command squad, but also those command squad setups are a waste.

Scrap 2 entirely, and have 4 squads of 4 plasma/melta (plasma is better due to range, but have 1 squad of melta too)
Take 2 chimeras and put 2 command squads in each along with a company commander in each. Then with your freed up elites slots take 2 platoon commanders and use them to order your infantry squads. Consider putting special weapons in your infantry squads too.

>Magic 8-ball says "Ask again Sunday night."

>what army do you play
Guard/Tsons/Wolves/Eldar
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix and Physic Superiority
>do you own any forge world?
Chinese
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Allow you spaz
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Implying I play the game
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Female guardian. 2EZ

Oops, was meant for

The Mono is a sad slab of junk. 381 points for what? A 20 wounds transport that has a 3+ save that can't kill anything? Other players love it when they see that hit the board it is easy to kill and can't kill anything back for its ludicrous cost.
>Makes me sad

Jessie's hair not defying gravity is weird to see
>pour one out for meowths VA

>Play my first game of 8e with my friends.
>Tfw they looked so unhappy when I managed to alpha strike their squishy mechanicus/Tau and wipe half their army with Da Jump.
I know Orks have been shafted for a long time, and their new warp powers are really great, but the despair I saw in their eyes...Is it all really worth it?
The answer is yes.

it also takes double damage from macro weapons :^)

Hey being last on the codex lost means a higher chance of getting new figs right?!
>gods I hate the resin Flayed Ones

>le forge world is broken meme

Point out something from any IA index that can overpower the current top tier lists.

Oh wait, you can't, because you have no idea how the 40k competitive meta works to begin with.
Sure, they print stupid shit like the Mars Pattern Leman Russ, but these units aren't game breaking by any stretch of the imagination.

>what army do you play ?
Necrons

>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Shooty, with a Praetorian/Wraith vanguard... and Anrakyr...

>do you own any forge world?
Own? No. Want? Not within my own faction.

>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Allow it. FW takes me to flavor town (unlike 90% of vanilla).

>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
I assume out of my own faction:
Trazyn stands up with 1d3 wounds after replacing a full-health 4 or 5 Wound Lord/Overlord. Why is he my Warlord? Trash.
Honestly, I feel the crons are pretty balanced this go around. Flayed Ones cost too much, but that has been since forever.
Deathmarks suck, but that's because almost ALL sniper units suck.
Doom/Night Scythes suck and don't have hover? Issues.
Tank is expensive... ehh... not sure what needs to be done to it. I wont field it till I feel its worth it.

>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Again, I assume out of my own faction: The Silent King. He needs to feel the love.

Oh and it does not have the Transport Key word so no moving you unit(only one unit at a time!) After they get out.

Damn Crons are trash. They must have spent one afternoon writing that index.

>These God-engines, properly classified as Terranic Pattern Warlord-Sinister Psi-Titans, were each rebuilt around an Emperor-designed psychic amplification matrix device called the Ciricrux Anima. In place of the standard Titan configuration of Mind Impulse Units, it was this which controlled and empowered the Warlord-Sinister and in place of the Moderatii that would normally crew a Battle Titan, the Psi-Titans were instead crewed by what might be considered the damned -- bound psykers surgically locked in place and slaved to the will of the Preceptor-Intendant who mastered the God-engine in place of a Princeps.
>By direct cortical control, the power and spirit of the bound psykers were siphoned off and focused by the arcane technologies of the Ciricrux Anima, the baleful device that truly makes the Psi-Titan what it is. This energy was controlled by a techno-arcane interface quite unlike that of a standard configuration Mind Impulse Unit, while much of the Psi-Titan's other functions were slaved to sub-automata systems and Machine Spirit homunculi. Set at the heart of the storm of these energies, the Preceptor-Intendant sat in a shielded command crucible in the Titan's head. But even this was insufficient to entirely protect them from the psychic forces at play, and so each Titan commander of the Ordo Sinister was a psychic Blank, an Untouchable

>they print stupid shit like the Mars Pattern Leman Russ

Am I missing something, just looks like a Russ to me.

Astra Militarum is due in the first wave of codexes. Warhammer Community noted that 'forge worlds and astra militarum regiments' will have chapter tactic equivalents 'soon' and the admech are right after death guard.

They are going to get nerfed to hell though.

>what army do you play
Orks primarily
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mostly choppy, but I throw a good deal of mechanized walkers in there too.
>do you own any forge world?
Not currently, but that's the benefit of playing Orks, you can kitbash anything.
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
That's a tough call. There's a lot of flavorful stuff in FW, but a lot of broken stuff too. For instance, I have a list of Snakebite Orks, and Squiggoths are a big part of my strategy, so if I banned FW that'd be gone. I guess I'd allow it and hope it doesn't get too bad.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
I'm still pretty new to 8e (I've only played one or two games.) but looking at my index...Stompas. Poor poor Stompas.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Probably a female Howling Banshee.

r8 my Badrukk

Should I change anything or is this a solid list for 1000pts games? No crisis suits into commander converting please

Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [60 PL, 999pts]

HQ
Cadre Fireblade [3 PL, 50pts]: Markerlight, MV1 Gun Drone
Ethereal [3 PL, 50pts]: Honour blade, Hover Drone

Troops
Strike Team [4 PL, 51pts]: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [4 PL, 51pts]: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [4 PL, 48pts]: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Elites
XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 267pts]: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'vre: Drone controller, 2x Plasma rifle

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 267pts]: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'vre: Drone controller, 2x Plasma rifle

Fast Attack
Pathfinder Team [4 PL, 48pts]: MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone
- 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
- Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol

Pathfinder Team [3 PL, 40pts]
- 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
- Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol

Dedicated Transport
TY7 Devilfish [7 PL, 127pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon

Was just asking a question, I know there's a lot of contention about it which is mostly leftover from where they were bonkers from last edition, personally I have no issue with 90% of it

Needz moar dakka.

I'm sad now. I got to the tier of stuff for my GW's birthday that involved the book-bag (wanted), notebook (eh), and deck of cards (hyped a little bit) but the cards ended up literally just being plain old cards with a 40k themed back. I was all excited thinking they were gonna have special stuff for the cards, but no.

>>Tfw they looked so unhappy when I managed to alpha strike their squishy mechanicus/Tau and wipe half their army with Da Jump.
Either your friends are shit players, you broke the rules or most likely both.
Any army like tau, AM or IG shoul aleays have bubble wrap to their heavy hitters to prevent T1 charges.
That said, I don't think there is any single unit in the game that could wipe out half of any-non hyper elite low model count army T1.
Which means you either broke the rule of 1, or even worse, brought a list designed to spam Da Jump in a narrative or open play game.

Tsons
Shooty
Yes
Allow
Brimstone Horrors
Lofn on the forehead

What are you going to do against vehicles?

>brimstone horrors
>needing a buff
no

It can mount a plasma cannon or multimelta on the hull as well as the sponsons

but user, vehicles don't exist in 8th

drop those MLs on the Firewarriors, you'll also need some anti-armor to deal with tanks

I think you missred, that's a single Command Squad of 6 men.

After modifications here's whats the list looks like at 1987pts

HQ
Knight Commander Pask - Lascannon, Battlecannon - 209pts
Company Commander - Laspistol, Chainsword – 30pts
Company Commander - Laspistol, Chainsword – 30pts

ELITE
Master of Ordonnance – 38pts
Platoon Commander - Laspistol, Chainsword – 20pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Plasma guns – 65pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Plasma guns – 65pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Plasma guns – 65pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Melta guns – 90pts

TRANSPORTS
Chimera – Multi-Laser, Heavy Bolter – 93pts
Chimera – Multi-Laser, Heavy Bolter – 93pts

TROOP
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts

HEAVY SUPPORT
x3 Manticore – Stormeagle Rockets, Heavy Bolter - 399pts
x2 Leman Russ Battle Tank – Battlecannon, Heavy Bolter - 324pts
x2 Leman Russ Battle Tank – Battlecannon, Heavy Bolter - 324pts

I'd say have is a bit of a stretch. It was a 2v2 1k point match. I destroyed two of the Mech's units in shoot and in charge. Then went to town on what little he had left while my partner dealt with the Tau until I could trukk my Nobz to the other corner of the table. To be fair, the Mech player doesn't know what bubble wrapping is I think, so I was able to easily gut the heavy hitters in his army.

A Leman without triple Heavy Flamers is a sad Leman

>Thousand Sons and Tzeentch Daemons
>Mix- psyker heavy
>no
>yes
>Ahriman
>Callidus Assassin disguised as your mother

>Not making them 2 pts again and giving them a 2nd wound
There are TWO of them per base.
Guardsmen are the same way with Heavy Weapons
TWO Guardsmen TWO Wounds
TWO Brimstones ONE Wound

Bullshit

>what are Stormravens

I had a dream last night in which I was at a mall slaughtering people and guards with a chainsword, and a massive grin on my face.

How has 40k positively impacted in your life, Veeky Forums?

>Genestealer Cult with Tyranids, Necrons
>Mostly choppy Cult, 50/50 Necrons
>Yes, both for Nids & Crons
>Allow with limitations or mission designs that fuck over super-expensive turbo-murder lists
>Flayed Ones, since I have like 30 (metal) & they're fucking rad
>Kiss a radical Inquisitor, because she has to be fit & into some freaky shit. Maybe a Sister.

Thinking of running ten Hellblasters with standard plasma weaponry.

Is this efficient for a Primaris heavy force? I really like them but ten plasma weapons are insanely expensive.

>what army do you play
Grey Knights and Thousand Sons
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix, leaning towards shooting
>do you own any forge world?
The FW GK land raider redeemer. When I use it (which is almost never) I just use it as a regular redeemer. No regrets, that tank is just damn sexy.
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
If I'd ban things I would ban specific units, rather than banning based on where something was bought.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
GK Librarians. There's just no reason to take one ever right now, they cost more points than a Brother-captain but have worse stats and no buff aura.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Yvraine's cat. What can I say, I have a soft spot for pets (and severe social awkwardness)

It's my only reason to live on and have social interaction.

helldrake kibble

Drop the Crisis for a hammerhead? Something anti armour is needed

Its given me a flimsy pretext to interact with other people in person.

But Helldrakes are , sooo... you proved my point.

Well the normal ones can take a lascannon so that isn't a big deal. I guess its probably this co-axial thing but that adds less than 1 average damage to its gun if its within 24". So maybe they should have made it 15 points for expensive, not close to as bad as the SM Leviathan being about 80 points under-costed.

They were already overpowered motherfucker, 3 points for a fucking 2W 4++ model would be utter bullshit.
Even a gun that hits and wounds on 2s with rerolls to hit and to wound would need either 4.47 shots or 4.47 damage to statiscally kill just one model.

fahck

How does one build a 1k pts Nids army on budget with no ebay stuff?

>8E codex release cycle
>Space Marines
>Spikey Space Marines
>Shiny Space Marines
>Fat Space Marines
>AdMech
So, are we even going to see a Xenos codex this year? I hope not; my Thousand Sons aren't going to get a codex this year unless they are just completely shutting the xenos out.

Looks like a Reaper model

>GK, T'au, DEldar
>Mix, shooty, mix
>No Forgeworld
>Allow
>Well, Railsides already got a great buff, so Talos/Cronos. They took quite a hit this edition.
>Easy choice, DE Succubus, then devilishly grin as she pulls the knife out of my gut because I will have achieved true happiness

>what army do you play
Custodes/SoS, Imperial Fists, Deathwatch, and Knights

>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Shooty with a light touch of choppy

>do you own any forge world?
So much shit. My Custodes are littered with it. IF too.

>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
No. FW is mostly acceptable

>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Base level Space Marines; they're insanely fragile in this edition. Failing that? Ork Boyz

>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Saint Celestine or Yvraine

but helldrakes can't be vehicles, because vehicles aren't for sexual

Tech-priests disagree with that statement.

>heldrake (male)

Slaaneshi Warpsmith?
The vacuum cleaner just wasn't enough anymore?

>what army do you play
DE
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
mix, choppy heavy
>do you own any forge world?
not on my salary
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
outright ban if I can't ban specific units, because some of that shit is retarded
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Raptors so my NL Bros can be fluffy and not be gimped, or a faction wide buff for Daemon players so they can run mono and not be ass, or a Nid buff
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose? I would kiss best girl Lilith

Tell that to the AdMech

>Reaper model
But what system?