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>>Thread Question: What "hidden" gems have you discovered in old sets?
David Harris
"Hidden" gem incoming.
Brandon Morris
Any CEDH players here? What kind of shit you playing? Combo? Stax?
Also dont talk to me about sucking jason alts dick with that 75% shiet.
Cameron Brown
>Thread Question: What "hidden" gems have you discovered in old sets?
I sometimes find things in old sets I really like, but I really hate the old borders, so I end up not playing them. :(
Cameron Flores
>want to make a cycling deck >almost all cycling cards are shit and there is barely any support
Austin Ward
>What "hidden" gems have you discovered in old sets? I mean, Gate to Phyrexia is a bit better, but I've surprised a couple people with this in my mono-B thinking their artifacts were safe.
Levi Stewart
Whhooaaaaaa that's fucking real???
Cameron Flores
Why has the metal penis a face which breathes cum?
Evan Robinson
I've posted about it a bunch of times here but I love this card if only for the surprise factor.
Gavin Jackson
So how are you even supposed to build her? Just a BUG Rock deck?
Joshua Scott
Because Phyrexia.
Carson Cook
>BUG rock deck >Not BUG "You may play X extra lands each turn"
Carter Sanders
Anybody got any 5 color ideas?
Daniel Reyes
>Prime, Sun, Grave, Inferno, Frost Sun Titan in all white, the rest depends.
Christopher Phillips
I need to remember to order one of those, I fucking love the idea of a black Essence Scatter/Remove Soul out of nowhere.
Jason White
Lapse of certainty has been my most effective old card. I have 2 games that were won solely on the merit that they didnt play around my boros deck having counters.
Henry Thompson
> Thread Question
Parker Stewart
Any cards that will help in the early game while not being a whiff in a Maelstrom Wanderer EDH deck? I'm using a few 7 drops like Lay Claim and the cycling sandwurm but could use more/better ideas.
>Inb4 97 lands + kiki-jiki & pestermite meme
OC pic related
Brayden Gomez
You like that? You'll really love this thing then. Also holy shit when did it hit $26?
Jason Peterson
The investors strike again.
Easton Jenkins
They need to go fuck off to a real stock market and let us play our children's card games in peace
Caleb Adams
Some good shit right here, and it comes down really early.
Hudson Baker
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Andrew Cooper
>My playgroup fought my budget Edric deck for the first time. >It is the Timmiest deck: play 1/1 creatures, draw cards, make 1/1 creatures really big, smash to win. >I won handily on turn 6 because nobody else ever played a single creature. >Now my group considers my deck "degenerate" because it won so fast.
Apparently, in my group "degenerate" means winning with a very basic aggro deck while everyone else takes 7+ turns to set up their intricate stax and combos...
(Pic related is of Spire Tracer and Treetop Scout on an open board)
Joshua Fisher
>Padeem This is good, I'll find a slot for him >Darksteel Forge This seems a bit too durdly for me, people in my meta love Return to Dust and Sylvan Reclamation a bit too much for me to want it >Whipflare It's been good to me, and a blowout vs some decks but i could see cutting it. thanks user
Gabriel Evans
Does anyone have some spicy tech for Titania/mono green land decks?
Gavin Ramirez
i don't know where else to post this: I'm going to the GP Metz this weekend (my first GP) and i'm wondering how much the Promo Tix are worth? How much for boosters or the average playmat?
Joshua Russell
is having a lot of enchantment ramp like Utopia Sprawl/Market Festival a bad idea?
playing Marath, trying to make my deck more reliable without dumping money into cards like Earthcraft (yet)
Aiden Garcia
Rustoleium
Christian Fisher
That kind of ramp has advantages and disadvantages
Pros: Can refund mana the same turn it's played Access to 2 1-mana ramp cards, which are rare Many have very good color fixing ability (dawn's reflection, weirding wood) Untap land effects get double or triple value Doesn't die to wraths
Cons: Targeted land destruction can blow you out Mass land destruction hurts you more than it hurts people ramping with rocks or dorks, but equally hurts people fetching lands Mass artifact/enchantment/nonland permanent destruction hurts you more than those running land fetch
Yeah that's a bummer, that's why I tend to enjoy having a god as my commander, or building the deck in such a way that the only role the commander plays is to eat removal and the rest of the deck is built to win assuming one less removal spell comes it's way
Austin Flores
what are you playing that it draws so much hate? or is your lgs edicts.meta?
Jayden Ward
Value really depends of availability, just look at the SFM promo, it's so cheap because it was given out en mass.
Caleb Myers
yidris, i mean dont get me wrong i get it but being able to go off once would be nice
Aaron Wright
Post decks, bitch about other's jank
Logan Young
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Julian Butler
>me starting out in EDH >spend hours optimizing my deck for max power, evaluating which cards will work and which won't, add as many ways to win the game as possible >try my hardest to win while playing, planning my turns out as carefully as possible >still mostly get rekt and mad
>me now >deckbuilding >go through cards and immediately evaluate them like "trash, trash, trash, good, trash" and throw together a list >immediately gimp the fuck out of it by taking out the obvious wincons and staples, cut all the expensive cards because why even bother paying that much >start playing it, spend most of my turns by sandbagging by copying solemn simulacrum 4 times in a row >destroy, bounce or steal any actual threat anyone plays >either eventually win by attrition because i have no other wincons in the deck or someone thankfully blows me out and i get to look like less of a tryhard
who /gotgud/ here
Joseph Stewart
Wild growth and utopia sprawl are as important as 1 drop dorks imo.
Noah Clark
Fucking love Zada decks. Copied cantrips make me erect
Gabriel Torres
What's the best BUG/x commander/Commander pair for HEAVY ramp?
Benjamin Murphy
that reminds me of a story
>playing with randoms, some dude playing yidris >can't remember what i was playing, but killed/bounced his yidris like 2-3 times in a row >dude starts complaining that i'm being unfair >explain him that the instant i let his commander stick, he will storm out and most likely win >he gets all pouty >decide to give him a break and let him swing once since he was already low on hand cards >he storms off anyway
i can't even remember if he won, he just took a massive turn and i was just mad at myself for being such an emotional weakling
Austin Ortiz
I don't know of any that directly ramp, but Damia should be closest to ideal
Bentley Torres
in theory, damia, since you get to refuel your hand every turn
but in practice, damia will get removed and you'll be sitting there all ramped out with your dick swinging in the wind and no cards to play
Nicholas Butler
i didnt think mono red could be this fun
Dominic Rodriguez
tasigur good stuff honestly
Aaron Nguyen
the funny thing is my yidris list doesnt even have storm cards, people just think it does
Jaxon Harris
Nothing quite like going full Hiroshima with Chandra's Ignition with Coat of Arms on the field
Jace Sanchez
Rebuilt my boy Jarad after taking him apart for years and damn do I remember why I love this deck
Ramp, kill stuff, reanimation, Living Death, a general I can get back for a small investment, and inevitability
Meren sucks eggs in comparison
Isaiah Morgan
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Julian Cox
There were only 4 giants in MM though.
Easton Myers
Processors with Scarab God sounds like an incredible time. Do you use any mill, or is it more of an auxiliary thing?
Angel Taylor
Phenax, altar of the brood, altar of dementia. Not really any direct mills since they're not that good. If I go the mill route it's mostly with Phenax and tapping my 4/4s EoT targeting our mono Selvala or Phyzuri. Neither run old Titans
John Reyes
Very nice. I love to see a non-zombie decklist with him; His activated ability is great, but never sees any action.
Luis Martin
i've built too much UG
Jackson Davis
I am afraid I might be geddin gud. My every deck has now 2-3 Infinite Combos and ways to tutor for them. I eventually have to make unoptimal plays just so I don't end a friendly game where people seem to be enyoing .
Jaxon Bennett
>current Meren Xenagod Breya Mizzix Kemba Edgar Newzuri Rakdos
>brewing Scarab God, Unesh, Ur Dragon, og Ezuri
>want to build new Pirate and Dinosaur legends
Matthew Sanchez
i have a skittles deck that only comes out when someone at the table is being a faggot and is only designed to kill that guy
John Robinson
>geddin gud >playing tutors and infinite combos >good >this is your idea of skill
Michael Thomas
remember to run that hand hate senpai
nothing fixes combo babbies up like taking their hand apart from turn 1 onward with thoughtseizes and hymn of tourachs
Zachary Myers
good taste
its ok
>nice to meet you, im Johnny
would not play/10. goodstuff decks are the most boring
Nathan Bennett
>>would not play/10. goodstuff decks are the most boring
literally none of my decks are goodstuff, unless you count running decent 1 dollar rares as goodstuff
when you open 50 packs of HOU and don't even get a Nicol Bolas or god
Brandon Moore
whats the point of this greentext
Zachary Wood
Yeah, and the moon wasn't that pale and had a face, what's your point?
Josiah Cruz
This shit is goofy in Gitrog
Eli Mitchell
>Thread Question: What "hidden" gems have you discovered in old sets? >Pic related in response to Consecrated Sphinx >At end of turn:Evoke Spitebellows
Caleb Gray
forgot pic
Ian Torres
My Sek'kuar deck won a game finally and seemingly off its actual merits as opposed to my opponents killing each other.
I cast Wake the Dead to help me set up and on my turn, I got to use Ambuscade Shaman and Swift Warkite. I won with jank!
Guys, the deck obviously still needs work, but I might be able to keep it janky and not make it a boring worse Prossh deck!
Zachary Jackson
When you open 10 packs of HOU and get a foil Nicol Bolas in the 7th one
Jayden Howard
That's your deck getting gud. Besides >skill in luck based game Best thing you can do to minimise luck is to run tutors. I realize that this is a bait post, but how are infinites any less skillful than smashing face with 400000/400000 craterhoof? Skill caps here at the point where you can completely understand what any card does and how it interacts with other cards and why do certain cards go infinite with eachother
Liam Thompson
How does Wake the dead help you set up for your turn at all?
Jonathan Martinez
pls die seriously just die I ain't even kidding
Aaron Baker
I dont know how much ramp or lands to run in my 5 color dragon deck. I plan on running 5 tarkir fetches, 10 shocks and all 10 trilands and I dont know whether I should count things like Ramos and Savage Ventmaw as ramp cards as well.
I got Disciple of Bolas and Sprouting Thrinax back, drawing me three cards and getting saprolings.
In those three cards were a Swift Warkite and a Goblin Bombardment (which I get is more Prossh-y and less janky, but it wasn't strictly necessary).
Hudson Peterson
I think deck design, understanding, sequencing, curves and reading plays and board states are also a skill
Noah Powell
>Ulamog the ceaseless hunger Basically colorless mana ramp Eldrazi goodstuff with a side of every colorless tutor, board wipe, and mana rock. It's pretty fun, but I end up having to just play Ulamog the instant I have the mana just to prevent others from comboing off, which leads to 1v3 against me. Flavorful, fun, but I usually lose.
I might switch the commander to Ulamog's old version. The annihilator 4 will probably help more. >Sliver overlord Sliver tribal toolbox. At first I would just try to race to infinite combo, but now I just try to protect my Slivers as much as possible. I cannot wait to get ahold of all these new tribal spells and see how they break Slivers!
Dylan Brown
Millennial Pleb
Lucas Long
Give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he means white borders If not though, fuck him
Angel Wilson
Think Ramos could work as some wacky 5 Color Cascade/Good Stuff deck?
Jack Rodriguez
>opening hour of devastation
you deserve it
Owen Sullivan
I don't see why not
Juan Ortiz
>I cannot wait to get ahold of all these new tribal spells and see how they break Slivers! Honestly, considering how efficient Overlord is at assembling combos and dominating the board all of the Kindred cards seem very win-more. Summons is really fucking expensive, and if you already more than 6 slivers on the board you should already be in the lead. Same goes for Charge. Boon is really just a bad Hivelord that you can't tutor. Dominance is also really expensive but can swing the game. However you might as well be playing In Garruk's Wake, only two mana more and hits planeswalkers as well in case you don't have much on your board or are being prevented from attacking. Discovery is really the only one I can see fitting in and actually doing work.
Herald's Horn will also be a great addition.
Bentley Russell
So since the complete decklist for C17 came out, I've been wondering, if you have a Phage the Untouchable on the field and Fractured Identity it, will I just win assuming noone can stop themselves from getting the token?
Elijah Perez
yes
Henry Miller
damn that's spicy
Brayden Lee
Same work for Leveler and like another dude I forgot. You won't have to worry about your library being removed since they'll be the one's drawing first.
Jackson Moore
The main ones I was considering were summons and discovery really. Summons more or less gives you the mana right back if you have a mana sliver up (if you don't it's still more effective summoning than what you can accomplish with 7 mana otherwise). Discovery is just card value.
Ryder Morales
Holy shit that's tight.
Blake Hall
You could have bought all the gods and Nicol Bolas for less than the cost of 50 packs, chico.
Jordan Williams
>Futuresight >old set
Nathan Green
It's been a decade. It's an old set, gramps.
Brandon Brooks
I could use a deck like your Skittles list. Care to share? I've got one fag who's been showing up with higher power shit to the LGS lately and I don't want him starting an arms race.
Zachary Smith
>considering any set with the new border as "old" Fucking children. I bet you can't even drink yet.
Nathaniel Butler
>future >old Until they reprint Tarmogoyf, etc it is still in the future.
Matthew Bailey
Tarmogofy was future shifted from it's reprint in Modern Masters.
Ayden Johnson
i made a shitty 5 color spirits list should I post?
Liam Rogers
As with most lists posted here, literally no one will read it.
Just post like, the card you're most pleased with. Nothing tribal is really tech, but what do you feel good about discovering.