There wasn't one so I guess I have to make one edition.
>Playing? >Hating? >Brewing?
If you're here you probably already know were to find info about the format.
Thread question: Do you think there are any underrepresented decks in the format that aren't seeing the amount of play that they should be? Are there any hidden gem decks that you think just need to get put in the spotlight once to start seeing serious play?
And of course, what do you think will be banned this coming Monday?
>Walk the Plank is better than Fatal Push in modern What did he mean by this?
Jordan Bennett
> double black > sorcery
ITS BETTER DUH
Jacob Price
Sup nerds.
Elijah Lewis
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Lucas Fisher
>watching des Why would you ever do that to yourself?
Brody Garcia
Any Merfags here? Regardless what do people think of -1 Master of Waves and -1 Island for 2x Clique? Are 12 islands with only 1 Cavern too risky?
Ayden Walker
we're either getting no bans or a street wraith ban
Kayden Hill
>Death's Shadow getting stronger Cool, I won a foil one.
Juan Watson
>playing nothing atm been outta the loop for 3 years >hating i've been watching recent decks and they're all combo shit >brewing Moon ninja deck. definitely could use some help i'll post deck list if needed.
Michael Cooper
how is death shadow getting stronger? it's at it's lowest play rate in months.
Oliver Phillips
CHECK OUT MY SPICE
Noah James
That looks really fun to play. How's the blue splash treating you? Love me some Godo.
Joseph Powell
Creatures: 4x Higure, the Still Wind 3x Ink-Eyes 4x Judge's Familiar 4x Mistblade Shinobi 4x Ninja of the Deep hours 3x Skullsnatcher 3x Throat Slitter 3x Tormented Soul(looking for replacement, could do aether vial) 4x Walker of secret ways
4x bitterblossom 4x spellstutter sprite 2x clique some number of thoughtseize and inquisition
Noah Mitchell
what would I take out
Andrew Barnes
The blue splash is fun. It gives you more t2 plays and improves your top decks late game at the cost of making the mana a little fucky.
Jonathan Russell
What's the threshold for creatures you need for CoCo to become good? Is it 26 or 28?
Thomas Flores
My gf got interested started playing 3 days ago and bought 2 planeswalker starter sets. I've benn out of the loop for 4 years, after spending lots of money in magic. I don't like standard, cause you need to update continiously. Is there any current budget modern deck which doesn't suck/instantly lose to 800$+ decks?
Camden Miller
what's your definition of "budget"
you can find decks in the 300-400 range that are competitive up until the highest levels
skred, merfolk, dnt variants
if you just want to be competitive at fnm you can go further into the unviable tier with things like soul sisters and mono-g
Grayson Taylor
mtggoldfish.com/series/budget-magic Quite a few of the budget magic decks are good enough to at least win a FNM, can be upgraded fairly easily, and go for under $100. You aren't gonna win a pro-tour or some shit tho
Isaiah Kelly
talking about the sub 100$ range.
Jacob Hughes
mono green stompy
Nicholas Martin
thnx. What about infect?
Jose Rodriguez
i know mono black infect is sub 100$ range
Carter Wright
I've seen sub 50$ g or u/g infect being quite competitive
Jackson Edwards
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Ryan Anderson
any good substitute for mox opal?
Julian Fisher
>running a multiple color infect without a good land base Sounds like asking for trouble
Anthony Russell
mono green then. better than mono black anyway and far cheaper
Daniel Green
>go for under $100 >talking about the sub 100$ range.
Lands: 2x Creeping Tar Pit 4x Drowned Catacomb 9x island 6x swamp
Elijah Perez
Have you tried Dark-Dwellers? Seems spicy that they can either bust a land off the Stone Rain or Impulse off the Supreme Will
Xavier Sanders
Are there any decent budget non-aggro decks? Aggro is boring (both to face and to run), and Magic, while fun, isn't worth shelling out a lot of money for.
Justin Gomez
Not the other user, your list looks fun, did drowner or supreme will give you enough value normal RG didn't? I'm running a list with Panglacial Wurm for those late game end of turn fetch flashing, finished 3-1 with it, lost only to grix shadow, which so far has been a bad match up for me.
Sebastian Richardson
turbo fog
Zachary Jones
care to share a list?
Luis Jenkins
A bunch of Fog effects plus a janky wincon combo? What wincon should I go for?
David Murphy
I've not tried darkdwellers since I've been playing the supreme wills. I wasn't a fan before but they might be better with more hits.
I mostly got tired of having no dig/draw type spells and losing games to top decking a bunch of arbor elves or whatever. I thought about harmonize but I'm more interested in card quality than quantity. When supreme will got spoiled it looked to me like the right kind of card. Early tempo play, card quality later game. If your LD plan works the counter mode can stay relevant for a long time. Only problem was it is blue. So I just splashed blue. The eldrazI guy was more because I felt like it was a shame not to hae a blue threat if in was going to splash blue. It was the best one I could think of with just U in the cost. It's ability isn't bad and it gets bodies on board.
Cameron Brown
4 Ethereal Haze 4 Holy Day 4 Angelsong 4 Pollen Lullaby 4 Dawn Charm 2 Riot Control 4 Wrath of God 1 Elixir of Immortality 1 Temple Bell 4 Howling Mine 4 Isochron Scepter 2 Approach of the Second Sun 22 Plains
Colton Morgan
how likely would somebody side in bloodmoon against storm?
Wrath is pricy so you can go 4 riot 2 wrath for more budget
Parker Anderson
i guess it depends on how retarded you are
Tyler Morgan
idk like 2 basics maybe 1
Grayson Torres
how likely would somebody side in choke against eldrazi tron
Connor Adams
it's literally a joke deck, don't listen to this guy
Jeremiah Ramirez
Interesting, I have also lost games because 1/3 of the deck is a dead draw once you can generate 6+ mana, and I did use harmonize but felt it was lacking too, looking at your list I also forgot about the obvious LD part of the deck helping the mana leak effect of Supreme Will. I understand it also helps when you have stone rain on t2 but the opponent drops a fetch and you can't do anything about it.
I'll try to fit supreme into my list and make some tests, well thought spice user.
Brandon Johnson
can someone give me a quick rundown on Skred? Is it usable and/or fun?
Luke Jones
Looks fun. Is budget Mono Black Midrange viable? Something like
I thought about it, but I don't see myself having a high devotion enough for it to matter much.
Thomas Gutierrez
Really the biggest issue with the spice is adding a 3rd color to your blood moon deck. The mana can get wonky. You can see that I cut an arbor elf for a 3rd bird, and put in just 1 breeding pool. There might be a better setup. Maybe you want misties and a basic island but having a land that only helps cast 4 cards seem bad to me.
Jacob Howard
>watching the "reee netdeck" guy
I can't even finish any of his videos. Too cringey and obnoxious
Luke Green
If I wanted to do this combo with Reletless Rats, should I go 3 color? Thinking green for coco and ramp, black for rats and discard, and blue for scry and counters.
Jackson Fisher
I'm also building bant knightfall so I'm already in possession of 4x misties, I would naturally change the windswepts for those in my version, but I do agree with the basic island decision, I also don't believe it's worth it, the deck does have a bunch of birds and utopia sprawls to turn on the blue after the moon drops.
Brody Foster
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Matthew Long
Most of the people at my locals swear by him, and say he's the only online source for Magic that people should be allowed to consult. Needless to say, I'm holding off on playing the game IRL until I move somewhete.
Levi Cruz
What's a cheap deck that can draw-go and hold up Flash creatures along with instant draw spells and counterspells? I'm thinking about trying mono blue Spirits.
Anthony Wright
UW monument
play esper monument for the real meme
Thomas Carter
Esper Monument? I'd rather not splurge for shocks or fetches, how does the Azor build work?
Grayson Edwards
wew can you recite any of their shitbrews?
Brayden Myers
They refused to let people see their decklists (it'd runi the creativity), but last I went there on a Magic day, I saw someone browsing Kamigawa commons and setting aside a bunch of green cards. That was also months ago.
Austin Cruz
>playing 8rack >opponent on play mulligans to 4 >mfw
Jose Sullivan
They'd consider 8rack an OP brainless netdeck, and refuse to play it because it's named.
Dominic Miller
didn't mean to quote you but, that's dumb 8rack is fun stuff
Austin Hughes
Definitely. But anything with a name, they hate. I got group scowls from using the terms "aggro", "combo", and "control". They refer to people by color identites and player psychographics, and treat them as major personality aspects.
Robert Gomez
what the fuck is wrong with them.
Anthony Bailey
They're a bunch of middle-aged spergs. Don't know much else to say.
Owen White
Jesus christ that is some next level shit. Are there no competitive players at all? Did they all get driven out?
Colton Wood
They allow the competitive players there begrudgingly to take business away from the other LGSes.
Kayden Collins
>I identify as mono-black graveyard synergy
Dominic Rivera
They don't accept self-analyses. After mentioning "aggro", "combo", and "control" (I think I asked which someone preferred), they collectively labled me an Azorius Spike.
Jose Thomas
>goyf is still unreasonably expensive despite no one playing it anymore >investors keep their investments >FNM players can afford major decks
So this is how you negate the problems of the secondary market. Just force a meta shift into cards you've been reprinting and have made readily available. >cause GGT to become overvalued >ban it >the most expensive nonland in Dredge is now Bloodghast, which has two separate budget options
Dominic Wright
Is there any way I can improve my Token deck here? List
Creatures 1x Giesla, the Broken Blade 1x Lord of the Accursed 1x Dread Wanderer 1x Wayward Servant 1x Unraveling Mummy 1x Visier of the Menagerie 1x Aegis Angel 1x Archetype of Endurance 1x Bruna, the Fading Light 1x Hundred-Handed One 1x Crested Sunmare 1x Sanctifier of Souls 1x Anointer Priest 1x Aetherstorm Roc 1x Aven Wind Guide 1x Sanitarium Skeleton 1x Mummy Paramount
Spells 1x Liliana, the Last Hope 1x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar 1x Eliminate the Competition 1x Behold the Beyond 1x Sudden Spoiling 1x Rise from the Grave 1x Ironwright's Cleansing 1x Erase 1x Haze of Pollen 1x Giant Growth
Enchantments 3x Anointed Procession 2x Campaign of Vengance 1x Divine Favor 1x Soul Link 1x Call for Unity 1x Endless Ranks of the Dead
Dominic Powell
Fuck Forgot Artifacts and Lands Artifacts 1x Fabrication Module 1x Oketra's Monument 1x Throne of the God-Pharoh 1x Oracle's Vault
Slowly building soul sisters, thinking about the norin route with black splash for lingering souls. y/n?
Jeremiah Campbell
You can start by playing playsets of cards and looking at established tokens lists in modern, specifically the BW variants.
Sebastian Brown
>all these singletons STOP if your deck can't win using four different cards maximum, it's bad. Run four-ofs to increase the probability of getting what you need. Tron can win off lands and a single unchecked Karn or Reality Smasher, version depending. Grixis Death's Shadow can do same if you never remove the T2 Gurmag Angler/Tasigur they reliably land, nevermind Death's Shadow itself.
Also, this is the Modern General. Don't be a faggot, remember where you are, and reconsider if you're actually trying to build Modern or are just using the cards you drafted from FNM.
Gabriel Sanders
Do you play azorius colors often? Or did they just decide those colors' values fit your personality?
Alexander Morris
They immediately assigned that to my personality with their only context being me using "netdecker terms". I never played there.
Logan Gutierrez
Thanks user
Connor Green
I just can't believe what you're telling me.
Nicholas Sanchez
I understand entirely. If someone else said that, I probably wouldn't believe it.
Angel Powell
While any 0 Mana artifact could technically fill the spot, I think that this pile needs all the potential nut draws that it can get, and losing mox opal removes the ability to do crazy shit like turn 1 salvage Titan and slag fiend or turn 1 kuldotha rebirth crack the earth on the play or turn 1 book bust.
Nicholas Bennett
Hello, trying to find what my first magic card ever was. All I remember was that it was probably a black creature. She looked like she was made of water or something, she was wearing like a leather leotard, and based off what I know now and what I remember from the art, she was probably from one of the Ravnica sets. Also she had some rocking tiddies. Thanks for any help I may get.
Joseph Peterson
>first magic card >implying you're not a dirty degenerate trying to find his first fap
Luke Hughes
Listen, I'm not confirming nor denying that. But it was legit my first card and I'm trying to figure out what it was. Thought you guys might know
Cameron Bailey
Its like 4 bucks
Camden Lopez
Auriok Champion, Hero of Bladehold, or Kor Spiritdancer are the first to come to mind. These are all white creatures and not from Ravnica. However, they wear leather and have rocking tids.
If you can at all remember the stats on the card, that would be more useful.
Andrew Walker
Those sleeves look hideous
Hudson Moore
She MIGHT have been 3-4 cmc The last time I saw the card was literally YEARS ago
Justin Evans
Are we talking 4 years ago or 15 years ago?
Jordan Kelly
I play Enchantress and midrange burn. I'm now morbidly curious what would happen but was also addicted to quizzilla so i guess that shouldn't surprise me.
Matthew Carter
Fffuck, 8-10 Maybe
Charles Hernandez
>black creature >ravnica >titties From RtR block either Shadow Alley Denezin or Tavern Swindler