Twitch TV Room Pax 3 At 1:30 PM West Coast time the Pax The World Building event will be shown. The thread is about predictions of the story and general MTG Lore.
>Where does the new Pirate Walker come from? >Will we get Non Pirate ship Vehicles? >Will the Sun People and Dinosaurs have a soul bound mechanic? >What will be the gun substitute for pirates? >Will the Conquistador Vampires end up getting the most fan support? >How will WotC embarrass them selves over SJW pandering like they did with Kaladash and that fat Indian guy? >Will Alison who is in charge of the Lore, prove how little she knows of the lore again?
>What will be the gun substitute for pirates? Well, we've already seen they have some sort of harpoon gun thing, depicted here.
Gabriel Martin
That Indian guy, I remember that. That was fucking hilarious how spineless the wizard staff was. I bet 5 bucks its the same guy again this year.
Lucas Moore
>Spain are a white blooddrinking monster Empire able to conquer stuff Kek
Dylan Cooper
>Make guns and cannons >Have them be powered by MAGIC instead of gunpowder >totally not guns and cannons anymore guiz
Asher Ramirez
So is Jace gonna be doing the Dances with Wolves thing? Will the set basically be Dancing with Dinos?
Cooper Wright
Never seen it but I fot the imepreasion it was more like Castaway, complete with jace making his own illusion buddies.
Matthew Lopez
Ma nigga
Dominic Turner
Then how do the natives and the imperialists fit in?
Lucas Lopez
>whites are bad >natives are victims >guns are violent
Already know whats gonna happen. I just want spoilers at this point.
Leo Russell
>whites are bad >natives are victims >guns are violent
Already know whats gonna happen. I just want spoilers at this point.
Adrian James
>spain >white first critical research failure
Wyatt Cruz
It would seem he ends up befriending the merfolk faction, if the cards in the planeswalker deck are anything to go by >The vampires are trying to take back what was stolen from them >One of the native factions are the ones who stole it >The other native faction is fucking up the first one with their dinosaurs >The pirates just want the booty and to fuck up vampires And they generally have a thing against guns because they're not magical, not because they're too violent.
Robert Rogers
>Fat indian guy Cmon guys, Talinthas is a bro He's one of the few prolific mtg writers who isnt just shilling deck tecks and singles websites Vorthos Jay is cool too
And Magic Man Sam.
Landon Nelson
Good thing they specifically said they weren't doing that. Don't you look like an idiot.
Wyatt Williams
Didn't we already get a ship from the vampire fleet?
Juan Mitchell
Reading comprehension much? Torrezon vampires are white, or you also think irl Spain are vampires, because if you assume my "white" mean as irl, so you have to assume the "bloodsucking monsters" part
Samuel Turner
This ship is fucking MASSIVE and its just a 4/6 vigilance with crew 2
Noah Cox
What even is white anymore? I swear in the last year I've seen so many peoples no longer classified as white. They all look white. God damn race is retarded.
Jonathan Rodriguez
Is there any reason we wouldnt get more than one? Even in that picture it showed they have other ships.
Xavier Roberts
The merfolk didnt steal the Sun, they just want to keep anyone from getting it because DOOM.
Brandon Green
>What even is white anymore? Whatever it fits your agenda. See, Spaniards might be white when it fits SJW and libcucks, and then non white if it fits. Same for /pol/.
Kayden Gomez
Everything and nothing is white if it fits a particular argument.
James Morris
and to do this, they stole it. Sounds about right
Luis Miller
As far as we know, they don't actually know where it is though. They have a better idea than the other factions, but they still need to go through all this shit to actually find the Immortal Sun.
Which would be weird for the people who stole it.
Isaac Davis
The guy riding the dinosaur here looks pretty white under all the native wear
Daniel Green
the current River Heralds. Perhaps their ancestors did. But I agree that this speculation at this point and we have to see how things turn out
Matthew Green
Holy shit what's wrong with that girl with an eyepatch arms?
Dylan Ortiz
so, he culturally appropiates native culture? Wow, I expected better from Wizards than pushing insensitivity in their card games
Ayden Stewart
Bet that Angrath is yet another human planeswalker from a forgettable ethnic background? Bonus points if (((he))) is trans
David Jackson
Most likely an orc or a minotaur
Nathaniel Cooper
Why would you assume that, other than just wanting to be outraged?
Why am I even asking, as though you will have a response besides more /pol/ shit?
Parker Baker
because that has been the trend for post-SOI walkers. Look at Samut, Kaya and Saheeli
Cameron Barnes
ignoreport
Ryder Wood
Most post-SOI walkers are characters we already knew about, like Nissa and Gideon. Samut and Saheeli are just two examples, and you seem to be completely ignoring Dovin Baan.
Also Kaya was pre-SOI, stupid.
Ryder Moore
10 minutes and they are talking about problematic and racist tropes. Fucking Great!
Luke Morgan
link?
James Nelson
I dont' understand, when I grew up nobody cared about race, nobody cared about my skin color neither I cared about my friend's skin color, we had awesome movies with people of different ethnicities and nobody threw a fit or complained about not being diverse enough. I hate this age.
Colton Reed
Twitch tv pax3, The link wont post on Veeky Forums.
Charles Carter
The Vampires look dope
Dylan Torres
Fuck I missed that
Michael Wood
Wasting time with laughter. Nice strategy
Easton Ross
>Ship the size of an eldrazi god >Hits about as hard as a 4-drop dragon
Daniel Hernandez
The vehicle is actually one of the smaller ships in thr picture. The cathedral is just so big.
Adrian Smith
>nobody bat an eye with the bloodsucking monsters predating on natives being white I wonder why
Carson Thomas
because its natural. After all, the vampires only feed on criminals
Henry Clark
Theyre white because their religion forbids them from feeding except on heretics
Cooper Collins
She's casting a shrink spell and holding onto the spellball is making her arms shrink because she got distracted and held on to it too long.
Dominic Sanders
Vampires are based Sun people are bland, they went too safe with them Merfolks look great Pirates are a joke, Vraska's all female crew could be interesting though
Lincoln Watson
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Jordan Ramirez
>You can leave ixalan Hahahahah bye bye Jace, see you never
Jose Stewart
Jace becomes a new tribal, with his own lands
Julian Walker
Its shit.
Joshua Taylor
>Jace gets his butt kicked nice
Leo Perry
>conditional lifegain on a 5 drop walker as a plus u boned it
James Morris
If you actually bothered to learn anything about them you would know that the vampires aren't clear cut invaders or predators. But I know learning new things is probably difficult for you.
Blake Fisher
Somewhere between fringe playable and garbage At least they managed to make a SJW-friendly planeswalker with an interesting character for once
Colton Thomas
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Charles Collins
Is this one of the worst ultimates ever? Even Samut's ult was clearly powerful and had some potential for abuse.
Cooper Martin
That ulti can be 0 dmg divided between all their creatures. -0 all creatures are unblockable
Jace Brown
>Samut and Huatli are both token representation women >both are shit what did WotC mean with this?
James Ramirez
Question time, take your bets if we get a repeat of the SJW disaster last time.
Parker Turner
Its not an "ult" in the way you are implying it is. The -x is actually okay. That plus is god fucking awful though.
Landon Cook
It's either a PW without an ult, or one with a really shitty ult. In either case it's a major fail, since the whole point of PW is that they have a really powerful ability that they can built towards, usually an ability that can win you the game.
Lincoln Nelson
Note the -X can be used as 0 on all creatures to prevent them from blocking. It's not so much an ult as an extra - ability, which is interesting.
Chase Smith
Well if random assholes on the internet are anything to go off of people that arn't white include: Caucasians Nordics Normans Irish Anglos Mediteranians Spanish Slavs
I'm sure I'm missing something, but that basically leaves us with nobody.
William Scott
I'm 90% sure there's at least one other planeswalker who doesn't have an 'ult' instead of an ability they can conceivably use.
Jace Gomez
Many, many planeswalker dont have an ult in the "big efect you build up to" sense. The best planeswalker in standard doesnt have an ult. And one of the other top ones doesnt either. This is worse than either but yeah. Youre being stupid.
Caleb Howard
It needs to be dealt at least one point to stop it from blocking.
John Thompson
>Mediteranians >Spanish ...aren't those the same thing? I mean, aren't Spanish part of Mediterranians?
Josiah Jenkins
Gideon, Apeman of Zendikar
Christopher Baker
>0 >dealing damage
Ryan Thompson
Name some besides the shitty PW Deck walkers and Tibalt. The best PW in standard, Chandra, has a very clear Ult that basically gives you the game if you get the emblem.
Jackson Butler
see and Ashioks ult is inferior to his plus ability
Jonathan Collins
Gideon Ally (actually the best walker in standard) Chandra Flamecaller, and from the beginning iirc Garruk Wildspeaker was the one that could driveby
Ryan Martinez
Gideon is barely in Standard right now with Mardu Vehicles losing popularity, whereas Torch of Defiance is a staple in two of the biggest decks.
Austin Miller
Yes, sorry for the redundancy.
Aaron Harris
>Chandra >mono red and temur energy >Gideon >mardu vehicles lmao
Jacob Torres
Fair enough but that isnt the point so dont try and deflect away from the fact many planeswalkers, and some actually good ones, dont have ults your meant to build up to.
Easton Barnes
Will Old Fogey be included as a masterpiece?
Bentley Myers
Gideon and Flamecaller are but two examples of the near 100 PWs they've made, and Wildspeaker fits with the template of having a likely game-ending ultimate ability.
Nathan Nguyen
they don't do masterpieces anymore
Matthew Smith
y tho
Jack Bailey
>Three loyalty >On a 5-drop walker >That has to kill itself to kill a reasonably sized creature
kek why on earth would you use this over chandra?
Ayden Torres
>Plane is called ixalan >recently discovered continent is calle ixalan So did the natives and the old worlders had somekind of hive mind to call the new continent ixalan?
Jonathan Smith
only white males were allowed to ask questions and no cringey shit. Everything went better than expected
Colton Evans
It's not something they're just done doing, it's just something they decided not to flood each set with.
They'll probably do them every few sets
Eli Hall
>last time hey, I didn't hear about that, what happened?
Samuel Martin
then it will be too late for ol' Fogey
Ryder Harris
I can name more if you want. I was listing only relevant ones because I remember them. Again, don't deflect from the original point >It's either a PW without an ult, or one with a really shitty ult.
Of note is how the factiona have different material themes.
Vampires are gold Sun Empire Steel Merfolk Jade Pirates Fabric
Anthony Brooks
>Angrath What are the chances Angrath is just Tahngarth
Daniel Cruz
Humans are an underclass in the Legion of Dusk, Vampirism is for noble lines
Nathan Davis
Vampires have fangs on their helmets Dinosaur feathered radiate from "sun spots" on their bodies
Michael Stewart
It was easy to get white vampires.
Green merfolk some rD people lost their shit over
Daniel Watson
Boy oh boy I can't wait to see what 3 varieties of o-ring we get for this set.
Kevin Reed
I'm glad we got them, they look pretty cool. Don't know why they'd flip their shit though, we already have a precedent of UG merfolk, is mono G really that big a leap?