Infinity General - Person of the Year Edition

Poofy pants are a miracle of the universe.

t. Alien roubles counting cossack scum

Alright, after not playing since right before HSN3 release I decided to bite the bullet and get back in the USARF saddle.

In addition to pic related, I have two army boxes, a spare foxtrot, grunt swc box, two desperadoes, van zant and the smg airborne.

How do I be tacticool and git gud with team yankee

Marauder haris + Minuteman link? Remember to try armswapping the marauder and grunts from the starter, been wanting to try that.

That's what I'm thinking although I'm at 10? Grunts now, so any grunt link combo is pretty viable too

I didn't end up arm swapping my second army box but I did repose the second minutemen and female grunt to a somewhat less redundant pose

PanOceania
>put the strongest front against the invasion
>LANDS troops on an enemy warship, taking it
>is collaborating with the enemy

Shitriadna
>complains about being bullied, bullies so called allies (Nomads)
>conducts unethical experiments on its citizens
>turned on fellow human forces when the Combined showed up
>NOT the alien collaborators

really fires up your sensors

>flesh and blood
>in charge of not being Shasvasti infiltrators or sepistorized puppets
>laughing_ALEPH_sluts.jpg

For real though, sort yourselves out.

>implying said pan0 troops are not already secretly Septorised after the CA took over their station and poured Septisor nanites into the ventilation system
>one second of exposure is all it takes

you must know it from experience, Kazak-kun with all that assistance your provided for the CA.

New to the game what sort of experiments?

I don't know which faction to pick. I'm stuck between Nomads, Haqq, and ALEPH. Any ideas?

antipodes (feral alien dog humanoids) can transfer their material to pregnant humans, leading to dogfaces and dogwarriors

lets just say that its not a coincidence that Ariadna has access to a good few of them

Well, what do you want to do?

Do you want shotguns and doctors and assassins with impersonation skills? Go Haqq.

Do you want denial and lots of hacking paired with weird units that do weird things? Go Nomad.

Do you want to be the toughest and best at everything, with versatility, hi-tech tools and power, but pay for it in points? Go ALEPH.

There's not right answer except ALEPH, ALEPH is the right answer.

Thoughts on Tohaa and CA?

>Combined army
Badass aliens
>Tohaa
Vegan aliens

thisssssss

Dark Chaksa when. Tohaa don't deserve those hunks, they belong with superior Sygmaa.

The poofy pants are deliberate, though. They're like hakama.

Pants are fine, but they're too fucking small and suffer from scale creep pretty bad

Tohaa is the master race.

Let's say my list has an obvious Lt, maybe an Interventor. When going against haq or JSA expecting an infiltrator or something like an oniwaban, how to deploy? If I don't get first turn am I basically fucked?

Back to the wall and with a Jaguar or other DTW troop nearby. Or mines.

Does the primary target of an impact template, in partial cover in relation to the shooter, get a cover bonus to ARM rolls?

No.

For Ninjas I just mine the shit out of my DZ and have a bunch of people who can discover it. Direct templates like flamers work decently as well once the fellow is discovered. I've never found the ones who go hunting to be as dangerous as the ones who sit in hidden deployment for half the game just to come out of nowhere and stab the shit out of a rambo or make an important hacker's head explode.

Impersonators, on the other hand, are evil little shits made for hunting. The only real counter is to deploy well and distract it with chaff and decoys. Put the Interventor's back to the wall and have some bodyguards nearby. Discovering isn't reliable, the best thing to do is to make the fucker go away and murder somebody else by making an attack on the LT incredibly risky. A Lunokhod seems like it'd be decent for that, but I'm not sure.

>Artichokes
>Vegan
Fucking cannibals.

Tohaas sustain themselves with some kind of sludge they lug around.

wait, she is white? I though she is dark choco colored like a brasilian. Going to have to strip paint my.

I'm not impressed that CB pretty much straight copied the Unidron description for the Ikadron, slapped a couple extra bits on the end, and totally forgot to actually describe what it does.

You can paint her however you like, Kenny Ruiz isn't going to come to your house and punch you.

>I'm not impressed that CB pretty much straight copied the Unidron description for the Ikadron
You do realize the Ikadron came out way earlier?

No, because I am N3-babby.

Infinity's characters can be inconsistent as fuck in their skin tone sometimes. Like Bipandra, she's a dark skinned desi chick but you wouldn't know that looking at some of the art.

You're probably on the right track with hispanic medium brown. She's a Nomad though, so there's also a distinct possibility she's a mix of some kind.

Ikadron has plenty of info. They're repurposed worker bots who act as mobile reserve (and presumably a supply chain as well with baggage) for client races, but also keep them under control and stop potential infighting.
Unidrons came after and actually got less info. They're general purpose infantry so they don't really need that much, but it's still a little disappointing.

The real victims here are the other two Batroid types. Xeodrons get a fancy creed and Overdron get an excerpt from some asshole's college paper, neither of which explain shit about anything. I still don't know why Overdrons need albedo.

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Combined Army gets Morat Diplomats.

They are the objectively most fun unit in the game.

Put the Lt a deeper inside your deployment zone

SLUDGE GREEN IS MADE OF TOHAAA! IT'S MADE OF TOHAA!

I'm still salty we don't get them in Onyx. It would make lots of sense too... they are diplomats/ambassadors, Onyx is a "first contact force."

NOTHING TO SEE HERE, WE JUST TAKE THIS DAMAGED INDIVIDUAL TO CARE!

I guess Onyx have to be able to smoother form of contacts too, not "peace through murder".

Which is the coolest knight order and why?

I imagine Onyx might have some of the actual diplomatic wing of the Morat Diplomatic Corp.

Considering the Umbra are in that sectorial that's not accurate. Those guys make Morats look like Gandhi.

Hey, that Xeodron creed is important, it confirms the EI is female.

Rasyats *are* the diplomatic wing. The fact that they have all the charm of Silky Johnson is by design.

The Umbra are actually capable of asking "Do you want to be exterminated Y/N?" without punching you in the face the whole time.

I thought Rasyats are the military wing to be a PR group for the Diplomatic Corp so old grumpy gorillas don't try to start shit with an Avatar.

I'm pretty sure their lore doesn't go into specifics but that's my head canon.

Their lore goes into a bit of it. Basically, the Morats used to not bother with "making contact" with alien races and just showed up and kicked their ass at first contact. The EI told them to cut it out, as it wants more races under its umbrella, and to establish a diplomatic corps. The Morats "complied," but specifically recruited their most irrationally aggressive and uncouth members to form this "diplomatic corps" to ensure that first contact situations always devolve into armed conflict.

Basically, they show up on your planet and call you a cracker. When you throw a punch, they call the MAF.

The deal is, though, that the Umbra, hearing "No I don't want to be exterminated" would probably try to. They like killing people slowly. If they came upon an alien race that wanted to be exterminated, somehow, they'd never do it. They're basically Yugoloths - evil for the sake of evil. They live to cause suffering. They are capable of exceedingly complex long-term plans.... for the sake of causing more suffering. We don't know exactly how tight a leash the EI has got them on, though; probably tighter than the Morats, because they'd have to. Morats on a loose leash just start wars; Umbra on a loose leash might try to destroy the galaxy and all life in it or some shit.

But that's not the LGL Hunzakut.

human-sphere.com/index.php?title=Rasyat

>With the creation of a diplomatic division, it was perceived the Supremacy was softening, becoming a bunch of crying cubs like the races which it had conquered, its prestige tarnished. To avoid this, the Rasyatnat Diplomatic Division was created as a new regiment of the Morat Aggression Force....Since the creation of the Diplomatic Division...

I like to imagine that EI is heavy handed enough to make sure that Morats have actual diplomats and that EI kicked their ass enough that the majority want to appease EI despite old fogeys.

I read the lore as:

>They created a diplomatic division of their empire
>old fogeys bitch
>they create a diplomatic division of the Morat Aggression Force
>Both actual diplomats and Rasyat are referred to diplomats so old fogeys watch the war movies and think "well, maybe diplomats don't make us limp-dicked Shasvastii"

That's an incorrect assessment. There is no Morat Diplomatic Division beyond the Rasyats.

Well Ahl Fassed actually showed up to the thread so I guess he wins by default.

>Morat flanking and heavy assault regiments
>some of the most heavily armed and combat-focused Shasvastii, with no Shrouded for actual nonviolent scouting
>literal death robots
>the edgiest creatures in the galaxy
>once-decent farmer dudes, horribly corrupted by the edgiest creatures in the galaxy
>Sygmaa with their hyper-aggressive strike troops and merciless ISS-tier murder police, probably the least egregious example
Yeah I'm not too sure about that desu.

Onyx was pretty obviously built for gameplay first and fluff second. It's a dumping ground for Sygmaa, Batroids and Umbra (and possibly Exrah in future) with a few specific Shas and Morat troops.

When old grumpy gorillas try to start shit with an Avatar it just shoots them, or orders other grumpy gorillas to shoot them. Morats take the collective honour thing very seriously and pissing off the big boss is shameful, so that tends to keep them in line most of the time.

That said, High Command probably still keeps note of which Rasyats are actually capable of negotiation and which aren't. It's something you need sometimes when the EI demands you talk to an alien without stabbing it.

I'm gonna be honest. I used to hate Umbra, but I've grown to like them. They're just such unapologetic mustache-twirlingly evil assholes. I'm sure somewhere deep down in its robo-soul the EI knows that resurrecting them was the worst idea anyone has ever had, but it's too proud to admit it.

>There is no Morat Diplomatic Division beyond the Rasyats.

Where are you getting this?

From the same place your fluff is from. The "Diplomatic Division" the fluff is talking about *is* the Rasyat regiment. To avoid diplomats being seen as soft, they made them Rasyats. They don't say "They had diplomats but they were getting soft." They say they were trying to avoid this, and to do so they made their diplomats Rasyats.

Umbra are honestly dangerous enough that they'd try to find some way for the EI to feel pain if they could. Like, I dunno, find a way to bring Nemesis back.

See, you are ignoring my statement.

"With the creation of a diplomatic division, it was perceived..."

This can be read as

"They created a diplomatic division, and it was perceived the Supremacy was softening"

Note, that they don't say "With talk of a making a diplomatic division" or "during discussions of forming this new diplomatic division." It's easy to interpret this as the non-Rasyatnat diplomatic division has already been made

Then you read

"To avoid this, the Rasyatnat Diplomatic Division was created..."

In this way, the lore can be seen as
>Morats construct a diplomatic division of the Supremacy
>fogeys whine
>Morats make Rasyat

The issue is that there is only ever one diplomatic division talked about - and it's the Rasyats. They don't talk about the "diplomatic divisions." There is only one, and it is Rasyats.

Yes, I understand the tenses are confusing; it was translated poorly from Spanish.

To be fair it could be either. The RPG should clear things up when the CA book arrives in late 2045.

>it was translated poorly from Spanish.
That's something I've noticed: The quality of translation/English editing in HSN3 is distinctly lower than in N3 core. If it keeps up like this we should be hitting FFG Anima tier in a couple books.

Do you think the Sygmaa will be in the CA book or the Tohaa book? On the one hand, they're part of the CA, but on the other, they make much more sense when you have the regular Tohaa to contrast them with. And it's more efficient to not have to type out the special Tohaa lifepath/abilities again by having the Sygmaa in another book.

>Do you think the Sygmaa will be in the CA book or the Tohaa book?
Tohaa. Says so on the kickstarter page.

Oh. Duh.

>CA book only gives you Morat and Shas
Disappointing, now how will I be Edge Lord, Lord of Edges?

>wanting to play That guy -incarnate

I have build a Nomad list. It seems okay-ish? Did I make any glaring mistakes?

I tried to build a specialist heavy list with Repeaters and Intruder+Smoke and Kriza Borac each covering major lanes, with the Kriza being an active turn killer. I originally wanted a Sin-Eater instead of the TR Drone but it is really hard on the SWC/Points.

GROUP 1
ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
SPEKTR (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
TOMCAT Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
MORAN (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
KRIZA BORAC HMG / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 54])
REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

GROUP 2
JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)

6 SWC | 299 Points

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It will probably come with rules for the other CA races maybe even Exrah but they'll likely be less expansive than the Morat/Shas ones. The apes and frogs have always been the main event.

I'd switch the Jag and TR bot. You're a lot more likely to need orders for a smoke machine than for an ARO turret. If the Kriza dies and you want to use the bot offensively you can just transfer it with a command token.

Other than that you've covered all the bases.

Someone on wgc posted this. Apparently Aristeia minis is made of shitty plastic. It looks mantic tier bad

That's been know for a while.

>not wanting to play a whole crew of Umbra, travelling the worlds trying to out-edge each other

>implying chaotic stupid campaigns last longer than a session

Sounds like you've just got shitty players, m80.

I knew itwas going to be in plastic but never saw any images

>implying there are good plastics

Can't be used in Infinity anyway, so who gives a shit?

New player here, I'm trying to make sense of the in-game roles of all the Yu Jing models with new sculpts, how does this look?

pastebin.com/qD3Xc8Hm

Infinity has only 5 actual roles:
Cheap Order Generators
Hunters
Button Pushers
Zone Controllers
Wildcards/MULTI Role

As for ARO dudes, I wouldn't put the Dao Fei HMG or Domaru with Spitfire in reactive fire duty.

Your heads in the right place, but for an ARO piece you need to have more than one ability/equipment in your favor.

Example is TR REMs. They have the Total Reaction ability, some Visor (360)/Climbing+/Mimetism. The higher Burst and defensive equipment/abilities make them better at survival and a better chance at putting down the enemy.

I would put the Dao Fei HMG as a full blown Hunter. Shikamibis a Wildcard/MULTI Role piece since it has the components of a button pusher, hunter, and it has great defensive stats to boot.

I don't get it.

Gonna be honest my dude, it's pretty shit.

>Lieutenants
Hac Tao can't be LT. EO is a very niche skill and it's no substitute for an actual lieutenant.
Zhanshi make decent lieutenants if you just want to hide them in the back among several identical troopers.

>Cheerleaders
Domaru of any kind are too expensive to be cheerleaders. They're made to get in close and trade hits as a disposable active turn killer.

>Button Pushers
Tokusetsu, Zhanshi and Zhanying are all technically specialists but they're more reserve second-rate button pushers. Docs and engis are still useful but for their own utility.
CoC also allows you to push buttons, so Pheasants can go in the list.

>ARO Dudes
Okay, first things first: HMGs and spitfires are not reactive turn weapons. They have better range than a combi rifle but still only do 1 damage per shot and are a priority target for your opponent's own rambos. Even rockets/missiles/snipers with no defensive gear like Zhanshi don't make very good ARO turrets. ARO platforms are definitely the most complex unit type, but overall the only ones I'd keep would be the ML Yan Huo and Raiden, maybe the Guilang sniper or Zhanying ML on a very good day.
Suppressive fire is a good defensive tactic especially with special ammo, but nearly any unit can do that and it's always a secondary use. There's a few units like the CR/SMG Wu Ming and pretty much anyone with madtraps that are built for close range defence, but that leads to some rather murky territory.
Combi Guilangs could also technically count since they have mines, as could O-Yorois with their crazykoalas and Ninjas who wait in hidden deployment and engage anyone who gets close.

>Rambos
Add Tiger Soldier spitfire, HMC Yan Huo and Zuyong HMG.
And since 'rambo' really just refers to anything that is commonly used to murder people on the active turn, you could also add Domaru Butai of all kinds and Tiger Soldier shotgun (used usually to kill off cheerleaders in the opponent's backline)

New season is up. Buff to TAGs.

>During Season 9 any troop possessing the TAG Troop Type will have the Fatality L1 Special Skill with no extra Cost
>Designated target is an aggroing HVT
>Winter's winner, which faction gets the buffed statline for HVT
>One command group lists are immune to reducing orders by command token trick
>Alive is no more, Bit&KISS to CA instead
>PanO gets "Closed Battle Lists" from winning Wotan
>HVT: retroengineering replaced with HVT: Kidnap

>this Umbra fluff

Wait, what, what's their deal?

I didn't realize there was a race this edgetastic in Infinity.

Closed battle lists are essentially Svalarheima lists with fixed composition. There are 4, all have Jotumns, most have Nisse haris.

They stumbled in from 40k.

Umbra are supposedly originally a genocidal race from the galactic past that the EI brought back to existence for lulz.

>all TAGs get Fatality L1
This is... Yeah, this is good. I have absolutely no problem with it. It's fluffy, it gives basic HMG/spitfire TAGs a nice buff over their smaller equivalents, and doesn't break the game.

>single group lists cannot have their orders chopped with command tokens
This is also good.

>Bit and Kiss for CA
A repeater network that isn't based solely on Ikadrons and M/R drones might be nice, actually. And cheap fairy dust is decent as well.
She's going to need a wardrobe change though. Drop the Nomad schoolgirl shit, we need some sick alien cult robes or something. Or a big hacking headdress.

>closed battle lists
These aren't the worst shit in the world, which surprises me a bit.
>one has an Order Sergeant haris
Great. Hopefully that transfers to MO at some point.
>two have a Nisse haris
Cool. Might be a good look into how they function when SWF finally arrives.
>one has a Nisse KHD
Run that by me again motherfucker.

Is the "Soldiers of Fortune" extra new? I don't remember seeing it before.

Yeah, seems so.

>SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE
>This Extra allows players to include Mercenary Troops
in their Army List.

>Players must respect the Availability within the Troop Profile, ignoring the limitations established by the Army or Sectorial.

>Each player can include up to 75 points of Mercenary Troops in their Army List.

>The Mercenary Troops can be different for each of the two player Army Lists.

>Fielding mercenaries in this way costs 1 SWC in that Army List.

>The use of this Extra does not allow duplication of Characters.

The DataTracker rule looks interesting. This seems like a small buff to HI and other tanky units. The DataTracker is going to be shot at and do some shooting on his own, so you want him to be more sturdy than your LI Lt. This with the buff to 10-order lists is pretty interesting. Maybe now we'll even see TAGs.

There is also number of scenarios that grant TAGs extra points.

>PanO gets "Closed Battle Lists" from winning Wotan
>HVT: retroengineering replaced with HVT: Kidnap
Something tells me getting rid of a Classified Objective that requires an Engineer is also related to PanO.

Also those Closed Battle Lists look like some kind of early Svalarheima preview. Is it so icefags don't feel as salty that wetfags are getting their sectorial first?

What are the CBLs even for? Just premade lists for lazy people?

this makes geckos quite good

combi- B4 Combi DAM14
with dam 14 panzerfaust and 15 chain colt

mk12- B3 dam 15