EDH/Commander General /edhg/

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>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
tappedout.net

>Plenty of decklists and primers.
mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
manabasecrafter.com/


CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
magiccards.info/

>Thread question
How do you feel about Stax elements? Irritations that keep people from playing, or necessary breaks on out-of-control board states?

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First for Iona did nothing wrong

>thread question
A-OK

>How do you feel about Stax elements?
Love 'em. Love playing 'em, love playing against 'em. It's a puzzle to solve when you're against it

why didn't you put the discord link in the op?

Okay, user. Prove me wrong. Show me an anime that sets itself apart! An anime that has unique character designs that don't look like every other anime, an anime that actually has *GOOD* animation for a change, an anime that isn't full of tropes and seems like it was written by an edgy teenager.

Show me, user.

Stax keep stupid Yugibabbies and millenial casuals from playing, so I'm all for it.

>stax

Stax is one of those things that is interesting to play against once or twice, but just becomes boring after that.

HaHa.

For that matter, any TV show, from anywhere.

It's okay. I hate it in Bant or Azorius though because those color combinations get my blood boiling.

>show me something that is completely subjective

Anything that would be given as an example you would just say, "Nope, lol!"

Working on making my first foil tokens to use to differentiate the different Inalla clones she has.

Thoughts on these? Couldn't find any thematically fitting, generic-looking Wizard images and the character art thread also didn't provide any, so I just rolled with these dudes.

HP printers are absolute shit, by the way.
Don't ever get any of the damn things.

>overturn my bias for me!
No thanks.

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I don't get the joke?

No one is going to spoonfeed you

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so while we're on the subject I guess, is LWA worth watching if I liked the movies?

>Stax

IMO the most interesting deck to pilot thanks to a complex and ever-shifting decision tree through which you have to maneuver skillfully in order to win and not just fuck everything up before dying.

Unfortunately, from the other side of the table the experience is rather dull since not much is happening. The better you know Stax the more entertaining playing against it is because you know better how, where, and when to poke it to make the house of cards come tumbling down, but starting out without piloting it yourself it's just a grind, win or lose.

My c17 decks arrived and my vampire deck was miscut. Is that in any way valuable on any timescale? Or is it just bad manufacturing on a large print run set?

It's alright. Nowhere near as good as the movies and drags out too long and Akko is an insufferable moron in a majority of episodes, directly causing almost every bad situation in the show and never admitting she's the one that caused it or getting any real repercussions for it. But overall the show is OK.

Ping Pong.

that's a shame. Oh well, I'll 3 episode rule it, thanks.

QUICK!
Post the SPICIEST of tech for him and anything super fucking neat for Naya YUGE stuff to pick up before people start buying shit!

been a lot of fuck ups with the set. I feel miscuts with this set aren't going to really be worth much. You could always try contacting someone for a replacement.

a box of rivals of ixalan

I was considering a LWA playmat just for my Inalla deck and making her clone tokens the main girls, similar to what is doing.

Depends entirely on how miscut they are.

I want to re-watch it, but Nyaa died and I don't have any private trackers to get it from.

do it user. God speed to ya.

this

nyaa.si
nyaa.pantsu.cat if you don't like the people running nyaa previously.

autism

When i get back home I'll toss it up on /t/, just check there like next weekend.

Everyone should get to watch Ping Pong as much as they want.

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Chameleon colossus.

Chameleon Colossus
Strionic Resonator
Worldly Tutor
Taurean Mauler
Changeling Hero
Mirror Entity
Fireshrieker
Grappling Hook

You have the demeanor of one who will reject even correct answers, especially given the subjective nature of some of your prompts. But on the off-hand chance that you actually give a shit... Haibane Renmei. I could also throw in Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Steins;Gate, or Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks but those are all tropier or feature more stylized animation.

It's... different. The original specials/movies had an innocent charm to them that's a little weaker in the full series. On the other hand, the series can take its time to build characters that the original short and Magical Parade just didn't have the opportunity to do. On the third hand (shut up, you don't know I'm not a Vedalken), the pacing of the series is a garbage fire -- what's considered 'season 1' on Netflix is padded to hell; it's 25 episodes but it easily could have had the best of both worlds at 12 or 13 episodes. On the fourth hand, the universe and conflict in the series is actually unique from a tropes-and-storytelling point of view. Instead of being Akko the not-quite-a-Squib at not!Hogwarts, there's a broader picture of a world where magic is dying, and Akko's personal devotion to seeing, and bringing others to see, the beauty and potential of the art that so inspired her is a lot stronger in the broader context of the show's universe.

It could have been really great if it was a little tighter, but if you liked the movies I'd give it a watch.

Do it
Thanks wizards.
My arahbo had a flaked holo stamp
So did my saskia last year, and a goyf I pulled around the same time

thanks for the detailed review man. I'm somewhat more intrigued now.

it's on Netflix? That makes life easier.

I'd honestly just put the more valuable ones up for sale on ebay, I bet you'd be able to make enough to re-buy the whole thing.
Or if you want I'll trade you my unopened set. I like miscuts.

Thanks man, I didn't know about nyaa.si. Pantsu's torrents are pretty much dead, but .si has a working one.

Inalla just brings out the Anime, doesn't she? I'm going Madoka, with Homura sleeves considering I'm running infinite turns. And if I believed in doing alters you bet I'd be putting Kyubey on Demonic Tutor/Diabolic Tutor/Infernal Contract/Demonic Pact

>How do you feel about Stax elements?
I'm personally fine with them, though there certainly is a time and a place for stax, mainly higher power groups. My group used to have kind of a knee-jerk reaction to the very idea, but we've got enough power swinging around at this point that nobody batted an eye when I said I was building Gaddock Teeg with some stax.

Stax depends on the group desu.
In a casual/low power group, they keep people from playing. In a competitive/high power group, they can sometimes be necessary.

If you're chilling with friends and playing purely for fun, it shouldn't really be played, unless the group is cool with it or prepared to work against it. It usually sucks for everyone to play against, and enjoying yourself through denying the enjoyment of others is badwrongfun.

In a more cutthroat environment where everyone's playing to win by any means, then sure, go ahead. The whole point of everything there is to be nasty to play against.

I wouldn't take a stax deck to play against my friends. Maybe a couple of stax elements in the deck, but nothing that would result in a total lockdown.
I might take a stax deck to play against people who I know I might not play with again anytime soon.

>Chnageling Hero
Besides being a Dinosaur and flickering your dinosaurs, how does it help a Grishath deck?

That's all. It's another Dino, provides a flicker, and has lifelink for when that's relevant.

>not going Cardcaptor Sakura alternate Inalla art and making her clones the stuff she captured

All of these and a fourth Inalla rocking Sailor Moon or Nanoha need to fight it out.

>buy catdeck
>get no tokens for this

wat, it creates tokens, and they don't even bother to include tokens of it?

>no mention of Utena

Just buy more copies of the card?

Use some dice

They have never and will never create tokens for copies like this.

Token creatures have no CC, embalmbed creatures have no CC.

This axe, like Pack Rat, is a perfect replica of the card (aside that it's a token).
A "token" of this, would be an additional Bloodforged Battle-Axe.

I noticed this too
Kek

>token not being a mirror of the original
>token not existing at all
Getting real tired of wizards shit

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/deathlink-and-lifetouch-ayli-eternal-pilgrim/

Moving for school tommorow and I finally am gonna build a commander deck, how's this look? Don't wanna spend too much more.

>perfect replica
>except it's not a perfect replica

>Just buy more copies of the card?

this is exactly what wizards thinks will happen, increasing the price of the card, and making people buy more c17 cats

so if i put this on that axe, will the tokens have a mana cost too? or will those tokens be different kind of tokens?

In any case: I maek ax, I win

>exact replica
>can't tell the difference
But which one is worth more

If I had an alter of Gwafa Hazid like this, I'd begin developing a Commander list immediately.

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this is pretty spicy, worldy tutor is similar as well.

I'm still pissed that they haven't created an official token (to my knowledge) for Ophiomancer.

post cute synergy
>1RR to steal yo girl permanently

Conjuror's Closet with threaten effects is the basis of my "steal yo shit" Mizzix deck.

Sorry for the late reply, I was makin' dinner.

Mechanized Production also creates "perfect" copies of whatever it enchants.
Only difference is that they're tokens.

Runes of the Deus

ajani, caller of the pride
armed//dangerous
boros charm
onward//victory
psychotic fury
sunhome, fortress of the legion

>sitting down to play edh with some people I haven't played with before
>let's roll to see who goes first
>one guy takes out a spin down counter
>other player says, no you can't use that
>I ask why not
>because the numbers are in different positions from a normal die, so it's not fair
>I'm pretty sure all the numbers still have a 1 in 20 chance of rolling no matter where they are on the die's face
>no, they're out of position, so it's different
>well the odds aren't different, but even if they were, if we all roll the same one it won't be a problem
>NO IT'S NOT A FAIR DIE

What the actual fuck?

seems like you had a meeting with a common autistus maximus, hope you calmed him down before he enraged

Yeah, that's a travesty. But he needs a reprint and when it happens, we'll get the single token we need for him.

It technically, TECHNICALLY, does have different chances, but it seriously isn't enough to matter, especially in fucking commander

his valid, yet incredibly pointless, argument is one side of the die is 'loaded' with majority high numbers and an aspie of significant magnitude could abuse this by holding/tossing the die a certain way. A fine counterpoint to this is that one can simply place said spindown in a cup then toss it out a-la Yahtzee Style

I mean like they are slightly oddly balanced, but who gives a shit.

There have been so many close tokens, but they either aren't mono black, or are an enchantment creature, or don't have deathtouch. It just doesn't feel right using them. And i only need one.

another way to work around this in two-player is to call evens/odds

Or throw it against a wall like a casino. As long as it actually rolls and they're not just dropping it down a certain way, then it's the same as a normal die.

>It technically, TECHNICALLY, does have different chances

How so? (Assuming they're actually rolling it and not trying to trick shot it on one side)

Because if you kick a fuss about not being able to use a spindown, they assume it's because you're trying to trick shot it on one side.

Casino wall is awfully specific, can it just be my LGS wall? It's inconvenient to find a casino unless I'm at GP Vegas.

He's right, extremely technically: Spindowns aren't fair dice and it would be far easier than normal to make them super-unfair.

While nobody's worried about deliberate cheating, my group doesn't use spindowns as d20s for D&D even if they're at hand.

But for a fucking EDH roll-off he's way too much of an autist.

reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/1hr8a9/does_using_a_spindown_dice_matter/

Long story short, they're not made to be rolled like normal dice, so they're not balanced, and are typically jankier than actual dice.

No, it has to be a Cesar's Palace craps table, otherwise no EDH for you.

They have the exact same odds as a d20. There is no reason not to use one.

Craps tables would be pretty comfy to game at/on

Most d20s aren't perfectly balanced.

Honestly there's no such thing as a random number and the simulated universe you're living in is just using a shitty srand function for die rolls.

You're just points of data, who cares?

The difference in how a spindown counter's numbers are carved and a normal d20's are is different.
Additional or larger digits means the actual depth of the number carving has to be adjusted.

Fang Chung at the fucking plastic dice plant doesn't give a shit, and neither does Wizards.

>stax
What's fun about not being able to play the game, having no mana for answers, and no cards in hand? It may be fun for one, granted. But I don't have the time to play magic for an hour just so one guy can snicker with glee that he spent a thousand dollars or more to make a deck just for the purpose of grinding the game to an almost complete stop. If that's where I see the game going and it seems like one guy's entire deck is nothing but that and these are not just a few cards he happens to have as a subtheme, I scoop. Not for me.

>giving a stax player the satisfaction of a rage quit

you are literally the reason why people play stax

Exactly. So many variants of 1/1 snake tokens.

EZ win!

Exactly, if we're talking about die inconsistencies, a spin down is just as likely to have defects as a random d20 you buy at the store. It's going to be statistically insignificant between the two to the pint that allowing one but not the other is idiotic.

MTGO must have one, pic tangentially related.

Yeah, they do, but I wish I had a physical one. I have the correct tokens for all my other cards, but have to use a die for the snake.

>had the opportunity to say Wang Chung and didn't
I'm disappointed, user.

Who is your favorite stax commander, edhg?

for your tokens

I mean I was just being cheap when I made this but printing your own may not be such a bad alternative. I printed it out and put it in front of a different token and it doesn't look half bad.
I had to stop myself from spending 4-6 bucks on a token just because I didn't like the 75 cent version haha