One of my players started as a Marine, advanced to Mate, and is now almost ready to advance to Sea Captain. He just needs a few last skills. The problem is two of them don't seem super logical, namely Speak Language (Breton, Kislevite, OR Tilean) and Trade (Shipwright).
Both of those skills are super complex and would involve many months of training at best, and years at worst. In situations like this, would you suggest swapping out the skills for others? But what if they are put in place specifically to BE difficult, thus limiting access to the more advanced career?
Jonathan Richardson
To be honest it can be roleplayed as "I've been picking up bits of the language here and there." Being from Florida, I can tell you that you don't have to be able to speak a language very well at all to be understood.
Evan Russell
>Speak Language Being on a ship, he's probably been around people speaking those languages. A week or two of dedicated study from someone who knows those langues and he's set.
>Shipwright This could easy be just all the bits about ships and their design that you have to know in order to sail them.
Remember that every skill has three ranks to it: has the skill, +10 to the skill, and +20 to it. Having the skill doesn't make you an instant expert unless you have a godly high stat associated with it, which just means you're a natural.
Jason Young
As someone who just got into this setting thanks to TW:W and Vermintide, was Mannfred really more popular than Vlad? Why would GW keep Mannfred alive in AoS but get rid of Vlad?
Adam Gomez
>Why would GW keep Mannfred alive in AoS but get rid of Vlad? Because Vlad is hideously ugly.
Xavier Parker
Yeah, but Vlad seems (to me at least, based only on what little lore I've read) to be a more interesting character instead of yet another 'evil sneaky schemer' archetype.
Not to mention, they could almost justify having some undead on the side of Sigmar - I can't imagine Vlad would necessarily have left with Nagash.
Jose Perry
I don't think Mannfred really was, but Vlad only came back in the End Times, and before that Mannfred was the poster child of the Vampire Counts - even if Vlad was a fan favorite, it'd be like throwing out a mascot to get rid of Mannfred.
Then again, I can't say what AoS has done with him. They made Malekith a dragon man or something, it's likely he's only loosely related to the WFB version. Because GW didn't have the balls to just make up a brand new setting like they obviously wanted to.
Easton Flores
You have to realize, pre-8th/End Times/TWW Mannfred was actually a pretty cool guy. He was clever and cunning, but not a complete backstabber like he's portrayed today. He was never really Vlad's equal, but he was the closest thing to it after Vlad died and had the most potential of eventually becoming a worthy successor. Then GW made him bald and suck donkey balls.
Look up the 'Liber Necris" for a better Mannfred.
Camden Morales
Ah, see, I didn't know exactly how long it'd been since they released the "Vlad is kill" lore.
Ok, so it's only during the death of Vlad and near the end of the setting that Mannfred's just another duplicitous cunt? I'll look more into it, then.
Logan Martin
Vlad and Isabella were already canonically dead when the faction was released. Old Warhammer Fantasy had a kinda loose timeline and included "historical" figures as heroes in some factions.
Carson Reed
Mannlet is widely despised (much like Archaon), but GW either doesn't care, doesn't understand, or he's a creator's pet (like Archaon).
Jaxson Rodriguez
>it'd be like throwing out a mascot to get rid of Mannfred.
It'd be throwing out Scrappy-Doo and going back to Scooby only.
John Cox
>Mannfred was actually a pretty cool guy He also had hair back then.
>when you realize that Mannfred is the greatest villain of all time
Jordan Stewart
Wait so Lex never writes things down?
Zachary Evans
Same reason they though turning Vlad in to a leper was a good idea.
Ayden Hall
>Doomwheel
Dylan Rodriguez
What is the proper way to do Griffith in WHFB?
Andrew Adams
Write a book.
Chase Howard
Do you know how to properly butcher an animal, distinguish edible berries, fruits and mushrooms from poisonous ones, make soap, make shoes and other kinds of clothing, hunt, make ale, carpentry and husbandry? 'Cause all of those were just some of the common skillsets pretty much every medieval peasant knew.
I was however talking about days in the calender that were designated holydays, not days were you could slack off if you wanted to. Pretty much every saint had their holyday IIRC meaning that every region had plenty of local and import ones to safeguard plenty of free time. The fact that you can't work on the harvest every day doesn't mean that you could just laze around. There were plenty of other things to do around the farm.
Charles Nelson
Why would you want to? You barely have to change anything to shove him in, sure - just change the gods or whatever into a group of daemon princes, it practically already fits. But that also means that he's rather boring, because 'oh great it's Grifftith but WFB.' Unless you really want to change up the character so he's not Griffith - defeating the point of trying to include him - it's not going to be interesting.
Lincoln Morris
Seeing as there are such things as trade languages I wouldn't be surprised if they were also used in all availible situations that didn't require vast amounts of shared information.
Jaxon Green
Seriously though, dwarfs have to be the worst "good guy" race that exists >Do literally nothing but quarrel among themselves over muh grudges muh honour and petty suburban family politics >Think themselves far superior to umgi and elgi because they can drink beer and hit rocks with hammers, meanwhile lose 99% of their territory to sub 70 IQ goblins and shit stained ratmen in a few hundred years >Are complete petty man-children susceptible to autistic temper tantrums; will slaughter entire towns and execute every woman and child they find because some long dead city-noble failed to meet the monthly trade deal thousands of years ago, expend obscene amounts of stress and energy over "grudges" meanwhile their race is almost extinct and the world is close to being annihilated at any moment >Never leave their holds or actually do anything of relevance other than getting btfo by goblins >Hate "sissy" elves even though elves have done more to save the world than dwarfs ever have >Are so utterly obsessed with money and material possession that they make jews look charitable, literally have a biological addiction to money, would sell off all kin and allies for gold, grungni is actually the fifth chaos god of kikery
What were the old ones thinking when they made dwarves?? Is that the best they could do? >We need to build a race that can stop chaos once and for all >Lets try midget autistic OCD tourettes hairy money grubbing man children that like burrowing in the ground! Thats a good trick!
Robert Roberts
Karl Franz dies suddenly and unexpectdly
what happens?
Jordan Wilson
Unironically summon the elector counts.
Benjamin Brooks
>dwarfs have to be the worst "good guy" race that exists
That's humans though. They spread everywhere like the plague, routinely fall to chaos, lead to the creation of new chaos races (beastmen), job just as hard as dorfs to space fungus, and despite being so young managed to spawn the fucker that actually ended the world.
I'm sure there's some sort of asspull that tries to explain otherwise but the warhammer world would be far better off without humanity.
Blake Johnson
>KF >dying ASININE MORTAL
Samuel Hall
Superman obviously mind-controlled him to forget to write them down!
Nolan Cruz
Vlad is more popular (he was better in every way AND actually cared for his living subjects). But it is GW we are talkign abou, they don't care about shit like fan opinion.
Nathaniel Sanders
>lead to the creation of new chaos races (beastmen) you can't stop us Turks from fucking our goats. Fuck off!
Civil war between sigmarites and ulricans happens, son of Boris Todbringer becomes emperor.
Daniel Richardson
As a villain?
Former mentor one or more PCs thought died, but betrayed them for Chaos.
As a character in a story?
The villain, the story would center around your Guts, obviously.
Julian Jenkins
Boris doesn't have kids - they died as part of some mysterious circumstances/plot. And even if they didn't, the legitimate heir was week and feeble, while his bastard was the good one. Neither could reasonably be the Emperor.
You'd have to choose an actual Elector, someone with experience, legitimacy, and all the good traits an Emperor needs.
Isaiah Wright
It was reference to WFRP Empire in Flames campaign.
Evan Diaz
Boris Todbringer probably becomes Emperor.
The only one with close to enough economic or political pull after him is fucking Emmanuelle von Liebwitz.
Blake Phillips
Would it have been possible for Eldarion to have beaten Arkhan, bare-handed?
Like, I dunno, punching him every time he tries to get a spell off.
Michael Roberts
Do the peasants of Mousillon not pay taxes because there is no actual Duke?
Nathaniel Ortiz
They pay taxes to their lords, most of whom are total assholes, but a handful of which aren't bad. Ironically one of the vampires there makes for a good landlord because the only thing he wants is the occasional peasant to kill and drain.
Ian Diaz
Toddbringer kids died either to schemes or to beastmen. Poor lad.
Joshua Evans
Do you mean LOTR Aragorn's son, Tyrion or Aenarion i can't tell.
Daniel Russell
Sigvald.
Cooper Clark
Ah, sorry, I meant Eltharion. Got them a bit mixed up in my head. This guy.
Jason Hernandez
Marius Leitdorf for Emperor. >implying you don't want Daisy as the avermarshal
Daniel Lee
Marius is dead though. I don't want a dead man as an Emperor.
Charles Lee
no skaven love :(
Joseph Anderson
Does Sigvad have sexual relations with old men?
Justin Bailey
But user, why don't you want a forever living emperor?
Jeremiah Russell
Well he did eat his old man.
Xavier Fisher
Sigvald wants to rape the Tzarina Katarin.
Oliver Gomez
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Caleb Hill
SUMMON
Jace Carter
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Christian Hill
KANGZ
Nathan Rodriguez
welp guess we post Tomb Kings now.
Elijah Diaz
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Dylan Kelly
Should I have gone for the Last Chance models while they were still around?
Ian Russell
>dat pic So that's how the Vampire Counts keep assassinating my Empire heroes with banshees.
Evan Wilson
Aight
Bentley Johnson
Why that guy has a flesh-and-blood girlfriend/concubine continues to elude me. Where's she from? What does she eat? Nehekhara isn't known as the Land of the Dead for nothing.
Adrian Rogers
Judging from how she seems to be breathing energy of some sort into his body, I'd imagine she's some sort of magic-attuned Arabyan girl he captured to help keep himself in peak condition. And it's not like it's impossible for them to get food.
There was a short story where a Tomb King managed to keep an Arabyan...I forget his title, but something like a scholar or an adviser. He was kept alive so that his mind would stay fully functional as he acted as the Tomb King's servant, so I suppose they must've gotten food for him somehow.
Chase Brooks
Some Tomb Kings keep living captives as members of their court. There's a short story called 'Totentanz' about a wager between an Arabyan poet (iirc) and his undead captor.
Brandon Lopez
>one of the vampires there makes for a good landlord because the only thing he wants is the occasional peasant to kill and drain
That, uh, that doesn't sound like a good landlord at all.
Levi Harris
The lords are a lot worse. Apparently.
Christian Parker
Well compared to the other lords you know when you have to choose between the vampire who occasionally eats a granma, or the vampire who organizes blood sports and "feasts" most people choose the former.
Aiden Adams
The "bad" Mousillonian landlords include a literal madman whose castle is a charnel house of decomposing corpses, human meat on spits, burnt furniture, and excrement. His underlings are all vicious bandits who stick to their "lord" because they basically get to live it up as long as they terrorize his peasants in his name, delivering his insane demands of the peasantry for which he may or may not kill them for disobeying.
Alexander Taylor
It aint that bad. Brunner the Bounty Hunter saga shows that such places are in Empire and Border Princes aswell.
Nicholas Torres
If you wanted them, yes.
Noah Thompson
Considering it's next to impossible to find any Tomb Kangz or Bretonnian models that aren't massively expensive or recasts, yes. Your best bet now is to look for different model ranges or hit up a recaster.
John Fisher
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Ian King
So any of the old guys, since Fate of Konor thread had discussion about it.
How did the campaing for Storm of Chaos look like? Is it true that Chaos was stopped at some village before Kislev?
Evan Ramirez
Chaos came in second place on points, but that didn't really matter - second is first to lose, and they lost every meaningful engagement there was even with GW cheating on their behalf.
Michael Hughes
Did they really got stopped at some village?
Also did it really have any meaning to the actual Storm of Chaos?
Levi Davis
IIRC they should have advanced no farther than Praag or maybe Erengrad.
And no, it didn't.
Evan Ward
So the Grimgor bashing Archaon was scripted aswell?
Eli Martinez
No, GW held a vote for the final result and brought in the next runner-up on points, orcs, thinking Chaos would win. Instead orcs did, so Grimgor appeared out of nowhere, kicked Archaon in the dick (really), shouted he was the best, and left.
Luke Wilson
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Anthony Brown
Thanks for the info
Parker Barnes
As someone who doesn't know much of Warhammer lore, Eltharion just looks like a poor man's Tyrion
Aaron Bailey
I get where you're coming from, but that's like saying Todbringer is a poor man's Karl Franz, you know? Sometimes you don't want to be the bestest of the best, sometimes you want something with more character. Like a guy who got his eyes stabbed out and fights blind, and really hates Orcs. Or was it Dark Elves?
Easton Hall
So I noticed this in the full vortex campaign map reveal, is that a dead Behemoth? Black Leviathans are in (and have been since TWW1), no reason other sea monsters can't appear.
Aaron Barnes
>Beastmen reported losing more than any other army
No fucking shit. I forgot how screwed over beastmen were past 6th edition.
James Nelson
its a point of interest exploring it gives you an event.
Vlad was never more popular than Mannfred, Mannfred was set up to be THE current Vampire Boss whereas Vlad was a time-specific character who died ages ago.
Ian Cox
Berserk fits very easily in the WHFB setting
>Band of Hawk are Bretonnian renegade group >Griffith wants to become Royarch >Skull Knight is a Tomb King >Zodd/Apostles are all Daemons >God Hand are 4 Greater Daemons/Daemon Princes. Want to be a total madman? Make them the Chaos Gods themselves (Femto = Tzeentch, Slaan = Slaanesh, Conrad = Nurgle, make Ubik buff and he can be Khorne) >Griffith is elevated to Daemon Prince >Neo-Band of Hawk are a Warriors of Chaos warband >Fairy people place is Athel Loren >Mozgus is a crazy Witch Hunter >Kushan is Ind or Araby, the Sultan is a Daemon Prince
it all fits quite easily with minimal story changes
Ryder Mitchell
>Vlad was never more popular than Mannfred
Vlad has always been more popular both in and out of universe. Mannfred was liked well enough until he became a bald retard, then he garnered Archaon levels of fan dislike.
Xavier Thompson
How can CA improve online multiplayer /twg/?
>All maps have 1 or more objective(s) to prevent infinite kiting, camping, hiding, running out the timer, etc.
>Reserve units that can be called in as reinforcements after the battle has begun, would help diminish the pure chance element of completely blind counter-picks.
Parker Rogers
Kislev in TWW when?
Adrian Evans
Around the time of the 3rd game probably.
Brandon Ross
>No bear cavalry
I know it isn't canon, but bear cavalry is basically symbolic of Kislev by this point due to fan canon
Aaron Roberts
Hippogryph Knights worked out for Bretonnia because they sorely, sorely needed it. But Kislev actually has a lot that it can stand on its own with, and doesn't really need super heavy cavalry when it's already got pretty good light cavalry and lancers, as well as the fucking Gryphon Legion.
Evan Cruz
Will they add fleets for the third one? Man'o War is like what from 1993?. It's quite amusing how Bretonnian fleets are more modern than Imperial ones.
