EDH/Commander General /edhg/

If I rebound this with Taigam, Ojutai Master what happens?

>If I rebound this with Taigam, Ojutai Master what happens?

you gain 7 life and put it into your library

All is Dust is a fun card as is O-Stone

Think that'd work if you could somehow cast it from rebound BEFORE casting it from your hand, user. :^)

>702.87a Rebound appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents a static ability that functions while the spell is on the stack and may create a delayed triggered ability. “Rebound” means “If this spell was cast from your hand, instead of putting it into your graveyard as it resolves, exile it and, at the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost.”

It puts itself into your library before you'd be able to Rebound it.

Not the most iconic green creature type.

Mizzix of the Izmagnus

Swiftfoot Boots, Gilded Lotus, Izzet Signet, Lightning Greaves, Worn Powerstone, Thought Vessel, Sol Ring, Pyromancer's Goggles, Expedition Map

Goblin Electromancer, Melek, Izzet Paragon, Baral, Chief of Compliance, Snapcaster Mage, Laboratory Maniac, Guttersnipe

Swarm Intelligence

Counterflux, Reiterate, Aetherize, Firemind's, Foresight, Capsize, Turnabout, Dig Through Time, Stroke of Genius, Cyclonic Rift, Prophetic Bolt, Rewind, Seething Song, Blue Sun's Zenith, Fact or Fiction. Mystic Confluence, Scour from Existence, Frantic Search, Increasing Vengeance
Brainstorm, Mystical Tutor, Cryptic Command, Insidious Will, Impulse, Wild Ricochet, Geistblast, Reality Spasm. Refuse, Disallow, Summary Dismissal, Pull from Tomorrow, Comet Storm

Command Tower, Reliquary Tower, Temple of Epiphany, Izzet Boilerworks, Desolate Lighthouse, Halimar Depths, Cascade Bluffs, Scalding Tarn, Shivan Reef, Wandering Fumarole, Temple of the False God, Sulfur Falls, Steam Vents, Command Beacon, Reflecting Pool, 3 Mountain, Izzet Guildgate, Spirebluff Canal, Volcanic Island, 4 Island, Swiftwater Cliffs, Highland Lake, Mirrorpool, Vesuva, Cephalid Coliseum, Deserted Temple, Myriad Landscape, Thespian's Stage, Lotus Vale, Path of Ancestry

Ral Zarek

Vandalblast, Past in Flames, Windfall, Preordain, Treasure Cruise, Chain Reaction, Mana Geyser, Merchant Scroll, Epic Experiment, Tezzeret's Gambit, Volcanic Vision, Ponder, Mizzix's Mastery, Blasphemous Act, Mystic Retrieval, Inner Fire

im trying to find a way to squeeze in an izzet chemister

>copypasting your whole decklist
Holy fucking shit user use Tapped Out.

So basically, it fails at every single step of the idea.

Which would be what, in your eyes?

pic or merciless eviction.

Not him, but Wurms are more iconic.

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>Wurms more iconic than elves

Call me back when there's been a tournament winning Wurm deck in several format.

deluge is the truth.

when you cast it the first time, the card says that upon resolve you put it in your library 7th from the top, rebound doesn't happen

Doesn't have to be. They're still more iconic.

WotC considers each Color to have two Iconics. Their Big Icons and Small Icons.

>White
Humans
Angels

>Blue
Merfolk
Sphinxes

>Black
Zombies
Demons

>Red
Goblins
Dragons

>Green
Elves
-Issues-

Green's Iconic started out as Wurms, but the playerbase as a whole is not half so enthusiastic about Wurms as they are about Angels, Demons, or Dragons. They've been pushed out by Hydras over time. Thanks to there being a lot of infighting between Hydras and Wurms, with some sets using one or the other as the big iconic creature, both of them suffer.

Yes, that's already been pointed out.

why not both? elves in the lower curve and wurms in the upper one. it's not like you can only print wurms for green.

FUCK hydras!

>best wurm isnt even green

>why not both?

Because Wurms got fired.
Hydras test better in the market research.

Name me the best horror creatures/commanders! Currently running Gitrog, but want to delve into a horror tribal deck.

this.

on a side note hydras are more interesting than wurms. wurms are mostly known to be vanilla big creatures. good for new players, but hydras got their own complex X mana cost and +1+1counters mechanic which will just play better in a set aimed at experienced players.
thinking about it i can't imagine an experienced player ever being excited about a wurm(aside for the call).
i'd rather meme about first picking grizzly bear than going to a draft to pick some vanilla wurms.

Use tapped out, other than that it looks pretty standard at first glance

Errata'd to be a Horror.
You'll have a hard time using it though, since having "I'm very specifically going to kill your commanders" as an ability spooks people into shooting her on sight.

>Name me the best horror creatures/commanders!

The other thing is that it's flavorfully a whole lot easier to print a Hydra with Reach than a Wurm with it, so it can interact with the other Big Icons.

how do i build kess without doing storm?

Storm is the logical endgame of spellslingers.

Choose a medium-big spell and copy it many times.

how do I build him then? I don't want to go the tokens route nor do I want to do the time warp route because that would be boring...

Straightforward card advantage spells and white removal become very appealing when they happen twice.

>3/4
>4 mana cmc
>no flying
>has to attack

Because you need to attack with him, you need much evasion like rogues passage

Removal and bounce help him survive the attack and with rebound they are extra saucy.

Rules question.

OK, so I have mairsil out, with quicksilver elemental, pila pala, and gilded lotus caged.

So I tap the lotus ability for UUU, use two of them to untap mairsil and make another U (total of UU). Then I use quicksilver to copy myself and gain those abilities. This achieves infinite mana even with the "once per turn" ruling gained from the quicksilver version of the abilities.

Here is my question. How does it actually work? Does it gain one instance at a time or does it read like

1x abilities
2x abilities
4x abilities
8x abilities
16x abilities

and so on? This is pretty much semantics but could save mana in many non infinite situations.

Pretty sure it's the exponential ability growth route.

This
Just go full extra turns and shit and be that asshole. The 10~ish good extra turn spells, a shit ton of tutors, some removal and countermagic, and some utility spells for fun.

Buyback tribal, since you only have to buyback your spells every other time with her.

Also be aware that flicker effects give her another use of her ability, so deadeye and the like work well with her.

Extra turn spells are easily abusable as well.

well ive never built a storm deck, if i were going to go that way how do i build it for relatively cheap?

how do i win after im done pissing everyone off with my extra turns?

>Buyback tribal
explain please, i dont know how that interaction works cause im an idiot

Can we apocalypse and the teferis protection to fuck everyone over?

>How do YOU wipe the board, Veeky Forums?
love resolving this and just watching everyone scoop

reanimator

>How do YOU wipe the board, Veeky Forums?

It's not a true wipe, but I really like Breath of Darigaaz. It'll leave my flyers (typically Dragons) alone, wipe out almost anything else, and since my small ground utility creatures typically die too, I'm usually not retaliated against.

Carry him since my very first EDH deck, never dissapointed me

>Cast buyback spell without paying the buyback. It goes to the gy
>Cast buyback spell from gy, paying the buyback. It will end in your hand.

how does it end in your hand? do i resolve kees before the spell resolves?

Yes.

Read Kess carefully.
>If a card cast this way would be put into your graveyard this turn, exile it instead.
Which means if it wouldn't be put in your graveyard (like if you buyback it) then you don't exile it.

>How do YOU wipe the board, Veeky Forums?
having an indestructible general is bae

Kess says to exile it instead of putting it into the graveyard.
Buyback says to put it into your hand instead of putting it into the graveyard.
When the time comes and it attempts to go to the graveyard, you get to choose how to apply the replacement effects.

I feel horrible for newer people to magic and to my LGS when they play and start winning. The people at my LGS get so pissy when they're being killed even if they're clearly the threat on the board or could be in the next turn. It took me a while to learn to not give a shit if some sperg starts crying that I smacked him and I actually kept myself from hitting people too hard because of that shit. Do you guys deal with that at your LGS?

Erebos?

>paying 4 when you can play 3

>How do YOU wipe the board, Veeky Forums?

Probably Zurgo, master of boardwipes.

Not exactly, Kess says it gets exiled if it would go back into the graveyard. With buyback that doesn't happen.

>Tainted Remedy + Arbiter of Knollridge
>Kill 3 players in one go because I had so much life

That's pretty cool, but doesn't win you the game with Cabal Coffers and Repercussion.

>implying pest isnt my wincon

This card saved me too many time to count while playing against a Mayael deck of a friend of mine

excellent choice

duress is back

professor reacts: i.4cdn.org/wsg/1504706393495.webm

Yes exactly.

>702.26a Buyback appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents two static abilities that function while the spell is on the stack. “Buyback [cost]” means “You may pay an additional [cost] as you cast this spell” and “If the buyback cost was paid, put this spell into its owner’s hand instead of into that player’s graveyard as it resolves.” Paying a spell’s buyback cost follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 601.2b and 601.2f–h.

Both are replacement effects attempting to replace the event of putting the card into its owner's graveyard. The owner of the affected object gets to choose which one is applied.

The important thing to note here is that you do get a choice. So, if there is some peculiar situation like someone flashed in a Black Vise or something where you suddenly don't want the card in your hand even though you paid for the buyback, you can still choose to let it be exiled.

Worth?

I remember back when Slice in Twain was in everything with green.

Link to the post, not the webm itself.

>combat damage

>duress
meh will see standard play as always but honestly there should be so much more reprinted in this set

>opt
definitely will see standard play and now will definitely see modern play. pretty great card

>slive and twain
utter shit

>combat damage
Yes, you should do it.

fuck

>How do YOU wipe the board, Veeky Forums?

Like a proper eldrazi artifact

I want to finish my mono green deck by making omnath the commander. How do I win with him, what are some good cards, how do I stop omnath getting killed, especially by boardwipes (everyone I play against runs like 40 boardwipes)

>i cant read: the image

>eldrazi artifact
>proper
lewd at best
wrong at worst

Either through honorable combat forcing my opponents creatures to fight or forcing the death tax.

>How do YOU wipe the board, Veeky Forums?
The DISK goes in every deck.
EVERY DECK
every deck worth playing anyway lmao

I still like it.

help me make this better.....but on a budget? I can't really afford to pick up all of the good black tutors. I just wanna play big spells with Vial Smasher. Yes, I know Crucible of Worlds is a thing and I will be getting that at some point.

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jund-vial-smasher/

I wonder if Opt will go the Serum Visions route where a common will become overpriced af because Modern

in 5 years maybe

I mean, Fatal Push is an uncommon of a set in print and it's 8 dollars. I never doubt this game's fucked up market.

Opt has an older printing.

this and not every deck NEEDS filtering
every deck needs interaction of some sort
not to mention black is the new blue in terms of common cards to see in standard

Fatal Push is a shortprint uncommon. Due to the way the print sheets are arranged, some cards are printed in Rare quantities, but show up in uncommon slots. Push seems to be one such card, based on how many of them people typically get from opening a box.

nice urban legend

I noticed this also with Censor and Abrade. Me and my friends crack packs like mad men because we hate money and we all agree that these cards are more uncommon than your usual uncommon.

What do you think of filter lands? Will they be reprinted?