Desired scans : Rank and File supplements Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements Force on Force supplements Hind Commander At Close Quarters War and Conquest Modern Spearhead
Juan Jackson
September the 7th in military history:
AD 70 – A Roman army under Titus occupies and plunders Jerusalem. 1191 – Third Crusade: Battle of Arsuf: Richard I of England defeats Saladin at Arsuf. 1652 – Around 15,000 Han farmers and militia rebel against Dutch rule on Taiwan. 1695 – Henry Every perpetrates one of the most profitable pirate raids in history with the capture of the Grand Mughal ship Ganj-i-Sawai. 1706 – War of the Spanish Succession: Siege of Turin ends, leading to the withdrawal of French forces from North Italy. 1778 – American Revolutionary War: France invades Dominica in the British West Indies. 1812 – French invasion of Russia: The Battle of Borodino, the bloodiest battle of the Napoleonic Wars, was fought near Moscow and resulted in a French victory. 1901 – The Boxer Rebellion in Qing dynasty China officially ends with the signing of the Boxer Protocol. 1932 – The Battle of Boquerón, the first major battle of the Chaco War, commences. 1940 – World War II: The German Luftwaffe begins the Blitz, bombing London and other British cities for over 50 consecutive nights. 1942 – World War II: Australian and US forces inflict a significant defeat upon the Japanese at the Battle of Milne Bay. 1943 – World War II: The German 17th Army begins its evacuation of the Kuban bridgehead (Taman Peninsula) in southern Russia and moves across the Strait of Kerch to the Crimea. 1945 – The Berlin Victory Parade of 1945 is held. 1965 – Vietnam War: In a follow-up to August's Operation Starlight, United States Marines and South Vietnamese forces initiate Operation Piranha on the Batangan Peninsula. 1997 – Maiden flight of the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor.
Elijah Hall
It is 826 years since the Battle of Arsuf, part of the Third Crusade, in which Richard I of England defeated the forces of Ayyubid leader Saladin.
The Third Crusade (1189-1192) had been a response to the overwhelming victories of Saladin in the previous years. Throughout 1187 Saladin had conquered the Kingdom of Jerusalem, leaving Tyre as the only significant Crusader outpost.
Following word of the massive losses, the royals of Western Europe answered the call to crusade. Frederick I Barbarossa, the Holy Roman Emperor, was the first to journey to the Holy Land but drowned during a river crossing. His army was mostly destroyed by disease and Turkish horse-archers, the remnants of his forces falling under the command of Duke Leopold V of Austria. Richard, at this time King of England, Duke of Normandy and Aquitaine, and Count of Anjou, traveled by sea, stopping at Sicily and conquering the island of Cyprus from the Byzantines before his arrival at Acre in 1191. Here Guy of Lusignan, along with Duke Leopold and Phillip Augustus, King of France, were already laying siege to the city. Under Richard's overall command, and by his mastery of siege warfare, the city fell to the crusaders, returning a vital port to the kingdom. Phillip, claiming sickness, departed for France, and the crusader army fell under Richard's sole command. He set his army on the march to Arsuf, traveling along the Mediterranean coast, desiring to secure port cities from which he could launch an inland invasion on the city of Jerusalem itself. It was during this march that Richard would met the forces of Saladin at the battle of Arsuf.
The crusader force, along with the Knights Templar and Hospitaller, numbered roughly 20,000-30,000 men. The army would have been infantry heavy, only a few thousand men being knights, along with Turcopole light cavalry. Saladin most likely fielded an army roughly the same size as Richard's, 20,-30,000 men, divided more evenly between infantry and cavalry.
Mason Wood
While marching to his ultimate goal of Jerusalem, Richard kept his forces close to the Mediterranean Sea, his fleet logistic being readily available for the army. Closest to the sea marched his baggage train with a screen of infantry, next were the cavalry, the Knights Hospitaller in the rear, the Knights Templar in the vanguard, followed by a line of protective infantry.
Saladin saw the march as a chance to crush the crusaders in the field, push them back into the sea, and thus secure the doom of the Crusader States. He began by sending his light infantry and Turkish horse in skirmishing attacks against the crusader left flank, commanded by the Hospitallers. These attacks began as minor harassment, over the course of the day they intensified to a desperate struggle for the Hospitallers. Saladin's goal was to force the crusader left flank away from the main army, creating a gap he could then exploit by a full charge, destroying the crusader formation and pushing Richard's forces into the Mediterranean. Were it not for the discipline of Richard and the Hospitallers, he may have succeeded.
The attacks on the left flank consisted mainly of archery and javelin fire, the crusaders behind their wall of infantry spearmen and retaliating with crossbows. The Hospitallers suffered few losses, however they were losing horses. Several times they begged Richard to launch a full charge, fearing if they lost any more horses they wouldn't be able to charge at all. Richard refused each request, waiting for Saladin to expose his right flank, when it would be away from the center and left and more vulnerable to a charge.
Saladin continued to commit more men to the crusader left flank, some Turkish horse even dismounting to better shoot into the crusader ranks. More requests were made, and denied, by the Hospitallers to charge.
Adrian Martinez
As the knights continued to lose horses they too lost all patience, and without orders charged into the Ayyubid right flank. Richard, seeing no option but to support the charge, ordered the Templars to charge the Ayyubid left. The Ayyubids, having failed to provoke a charge all day, were caught by surprise, and though they attempted to rally, they were slaughtered. The knights, followed by their infantry, killed over 7,000 Ayyubids, including 7 high ranking emirs, at a total loss of at best 1,000 casualties for the crusaders.
The victory of Arsuf allowed Richard to continue unimpeded down the Mediterranean coast. Though Richard believed he could take the city of Jerusalem, he believed once most of the crusaders returned home, those remaining would be unable to hold it. After several more actions, including the amphibious retaking of the port of Jaffa, and a proposed marriage between Richard's sister and Saladin's brother, the King of England concluded a peace with Saladin and left the Holy Land in 1192, bringing an end to the Third Crusade.
This is a classic subject for a wargame, with two legendary leaders bringing interesting forces to the table in a test of pure generalship.
Yes I know it's Borodino Day too, but you try summarizing that in a few paragraphs. Take this pic of a cutie Russian drummer girl instead and go read War and Peace.
An user has provided this folder of Next War games from GMT; if you could add it to your MF folder ASLAnon I'd be much obliged:
The new community project is for a Garrison, Militia, or Second-Line-type unit, and runs until the 16th
Wyatt Rogers
Sharpshooting Rifles of the American Civil War (Osprey Weapon 56)
At the outset of the American Civil War, the Union Army's sharpshooters were initially equipped with the M1855 Colt revolving rifle, but it was prone to malfunction. Instead, the North's sharpshooters preferred the Sharps rifle, an innovative breech-loading weapon capable of firing up to ten shots per minute - more than three times the rate of fire offered by the standard-issue Springfield .58-caliber rifled musket. Other Union sharpshooters were equipped with the standard-issue Springfield rifled musket or the .56-56-caliber Spencer Repeating Rifle. Conversely, the Confederacy favoured the Pattern 1853 Enfield rifled musket for its sharpshooters and also imported from Britain the Whitworth Rifle, a .45-caliber, single-shot, muzzle-loading weapon distinguished by its use of a twisted hexagonal barrel. Featuring specially commissioned artwork, this is the engrossing story of the innovative rifles that saw combat in the hands of sharpshooters on both sides during the Civil War.
Baibars was more important to history than Richard and Salad Man combined.
Juan Morris
What did he do except defeating a numerically smaller, exhausted and morally weak mongol force which forwent their previous war winning strategies and charged like maniacs?
Mason Edwards
Funnily enough it was the anniversary of Ain Jalut back on the 3rd I went to Damascus on a tour nearly 20 years ago, visited the tombs of both Saladin and Baibars Seems like a very long time back now
Jaxon Robinson
Just think, a not insignificant proportion of this websites userbase was born around the time or after that trip.
I was a little over one year old
Christian Gonzalez
Total newbie here.
I've been lurking these threads for some weeks and my interest is growing, I might as well spend some bucks in miniatures and properly get into the hobby.
Anyways, Im interested in mostly painting and playing with medieval knights, either mounted or not, i think I will start with these.
What miniatures (either brand or game) would you recomend me?
Thanks in advance folks
Lincoln Phillips
Does sort of depend on scale there user Assuming 28mm, then I'd say Gripping Beast for the earlier half of the period, and Perry, Essex and Crusader miniatures for the later half
Leo Martinez
You can't go wrong with Perry Miniatures.
Pretty much everything they sculpt looks great and they make both metal and plastic minis.
Gabriel Ross
A tip is looking up what people are playing in your vicinity and going that since it fucking sucks not to have anyone to play with.
Hunter Brooks
Dear /hwg/, while moving I found this kit, that I bought a couple of years back and never got to build. I don't have a lot of space in my new place and so I won't take it with me? Any of you guys interested in it? I am willing to part from it for just the shipping price.
The kit has been opened but nothing has been taken out if I recall correctly.
Logan Myers
I recently fell in love with claymore castings miniatures. They look awesome. Perry is also really good. Don't forget to check out their metal minis in addition to the plastic stuff. The Fireforge plastic minis are also pretty good.
For games I can't really recommend anything, cause I haven't played anything, but I'm interested in SAGA myself.
Adam Turner
>tfw can't decide between Anglo-Saxons and Vikings
It's funny because in reality their aesthetics were pretty similar, but with miniatures you can "play up" Saxons to look like Rohan and Vikings to look like low-fantasy barbarians
Eli James
Where do you live, user?
Samuel Russell
Netherlands
Jonathan Barnes
Might be worth asking in /smg/ on /toy/.
Brody Butler
I like you guys better so I wanted to give someone here a chance first.
Adrian Foster
Go for frisians
Ryan King
Hey user, I would love to get that kit, live in Luxembourg, how much do you reckon postage would be ?
Cameron Lewis
Hah, fair enough. I fancied the kit myself a while back, but I heard bad things about the quality of the cast and parts.
Elijah Clark
About 10 euros it looks like. I'm not sure about it though.
Brody Morales
13 euros probably
Tyler Barnes
I'd be willing to pay that, how do I go about giving you the information you need? Never done something like this, still a bit of a newfag.
Michael Wood
Reading in to it a bit more for SAGA, I might try to make them as generic Dark Ages/Early Medieval as possible, so I can change factions.
Just need to work out if my local Historicals club is still going, they haven't made a Facebook post on their group for a few months. I guess mostly old blokes aren't going to keep that updated like younger people though.
Ayden Bell
Give the chap an email now (a throwaway if you don't want [email protected] posting on Veeky Forums), then I imagine he will email you which Paypal account to send the €13 to, and give him your postal address.
Facebook trade groups do similar, they always advise to use "pay for Goods and Services" instead of "pay family or friends" as even though the commission is slightly higher, it gives you buyer protection.
Jayden Ward
Where do I get muh Mesopotamians
Charles Rivera
just got some Norman infantry from conquest games, did I make a mistake, probably should have asked here first looking back.
Nicholas Thomas
No they're good, I bought a few out of curiosity.
I don't even know if anyone else makes 28mm Norman plastics actually.
Xavier Cook
nice, look forward to it now. newb question, what games can i play with them out of curiosity?
Chase Edwards
Foundry/Warlord have great 28mm Biblical stuff
Your best start would be Saga
Jordan Watson
You could use them as Early Crusaders for something like Deus Vult or Soldiers of God.
Brody Rivera
Could also use them for Chevauchee as well.
Adrian Davis
is there a system which has a bit of a RPG bit to it, like going on a campaign with a set force and maybe some progression or something?
Nolan Anderson
Do you want your 'force' to be a warband of just a couple of dudes or an army of lots of dudes?
Because for the former there are a fair few choices including Chevauchee like user suggests.
For army-level stuff not that many games focus on progression, but there are still campaign supplements for many systems.
Ryan Perez
il look at Chevauchee, what systems would work with just an ongoing campaign kind of deal then?
Hunter Lopez
Here's a write-up of a Chevauchee campaign I ran a couple of months back.
Blake White
nice, are the rules for the campaign in the book or are they added homebrew or something?
Leo Adams
They're in the book!
Hudson Flores
hmmmssst, might start reading then. cheers
Carson Barnes
Gettin' into ACW. These chaps are meant to be the 41st Ohio, chosen because a very very distant member of my family who went to America was a sergeant in the regiment.
Tyler Sanders
Always fun to adopt a regiment and study them, especially if there's a personal collection I see they were in the Western Theatre; Shiloh, Murfreesboro and Chickamauga Also they won two Medals of Honor at Nashville Casualty count is pretty high too; it says something that they lost more men in combat than to disease, they saw some hard fighting
Kayden Perez
Aye, it's odd being on the other side of things since normally it's Americans finding a distant connection to Europe, while in my case I'm finding a distant connection to America.
A Manxman, even >With several companions Sergeant Garrett dashed forward, the first to enter the enemy's works, taking possession of four pieces of artillery and captured the flag of the 13th Mississippi Infantry Nice to have a Sharpe in the family
Hunter Barnes
I made a thread about this already and a kind user pointed me to this thread. Can anyone help with my very specific issue:
I want to set up an operational level wargame where players command brigades down to platoon level but not individual soldiers or tanks. I also want to use real world topographical maps with hexes where each hex represents say 1km and NATO symbol counters for the units. I cannot find anywhere online to get hold of this stuff. Can anyone suggest any ideas as to how I can go about making this happen?
Thanks for the advice. I'm not too worried about what rules to use but more about getting hold of real world topographical maps with hexes to help determine movement. Any ideas?
Josiah Hill
You could literally just use google maps then add a grid on top in photoshop or gimp or similar.
Bentley Morris
>getting hold of real world topographical maps with hexes to help determine movement You could plifer them from various hex-and-counter games, these for example are from Avalon Hill's Panzer Leader
Leo Perry
Yeah drop the email here, I will contact you then.
Daniel Martin
Anglo Saxons imo. Not only do they seem to have a lot more depth and character, but you can roll them as Pagan or Christian.
John Taylor
Another system to recommend if you want more crunch is Strike Legion: Planetary Operations (it's an SF game) with the WW3 supplement (which... isn't SF).
FFT3's great though. And board games?
For maps, just add a hex overlay onto google or something, then ideally redraw it yourself to abstract things or simplify them a bit - if a road's all over the place for no apparent reason, it really can make life easier to have it run straight on the map, or at least align to a hexline better.
Jose Miller
Does anyone have a scan of an Osprey - The Caucasus 1942–43: Kleist’s race for oil (Campaign)?
Does any one have a pdf of General de Bridgade Deluxe edition?
Jaxson Moore
Thanks!
Christian Ward
Anyone here knows of some game like "a song of drums and shakos" but for victorian colonial era ? If not, do you reckon using said rules as is would do ?
Jason Moore
I think the normal version is in our Napoleonics folder, what's the difference with the deluxe version?
Oliver Carter
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Jordan Cruz
Are there any big differences between the Beta rules in the archive and the final version? Other than the campaign stuffs, I'd like to play some demo games with friends before actually buying the rules but if they are too different I might just get the final version
Ethan Johnson
The game underwent some pretty significant revisions in terms of readability/play-ability between beta and final release.
I reckon you'd get a rough idea of how it plays with the beta rules, but you'd be better off with the final version.
Lucas Torres
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Josiah Evans
Thats quite the impressive collection of teeny men.
Jeremiah Morales
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Dominic Sullivan
I think the existing rules would work pretty well. Breach-loaders need only 1 action to reload, repeaters need none Point values for them need some guesswork
Nicholas Adams
These the GHQ hex pieces or something else? Was wondering if the cost was worth it.
Landon Price
It's one of the centrepiece games from this year's Joy of Six - Waterloo at 6mm. I didn't get a chance to talk to the blokes running the game, but I suspect it was pretty expensive to put together.
Jordan Peterson
>Joy of Six Oh wargamers and their puns
Asher King
Ah. I had the notion that I could find Styrofoam hexagons cheaper then GHQ was offering. Turns out not many people make stuff shaped like hexes.
Grayson Reed
Wouldn't be the same without them.
It's really annoying, we've had some success with the hexon stuff, but again it costs the fucking earth.
Ryan Wright
How is SAGA?
I've seen people say it's the ginger stepchild of Historicals.
Colton Myers
I have a lot of fun with it, but yeah, it's barely historical. That hasn't stopped me from putting together some Vikings and Crusaders and having battles down at my club.
Julian White
dumping some pics of a Chain of Command game I've played recently.
Julian Wood
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Brandon Ross
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Evan Jenkins
Looks really nice
Caleb Sanders
Noice. What scale is that? Looks like 28mm.
Robert Fisher
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Ian Ward
Empress Miniatures will be starting a late war German line. I personally find Empress and Perry to have the perfect scale on their minis so I'm quite looking forward to it. I hope they release some late war Brits in the future.
Angel Hill
Forgot the image.
Carter Cruz
yep 28mm
Hunter Miller
I'd say it's pretty beer and pretzels but that doesn't mean it isn't fun.
It's for when you can't be bothered to meticulously research a scenario and just want to throw down with some goddamn vikings.
Adam Nguyen
Get'em while you can. I'll have to pull them soon. They haven't made it into the ASL trove yet.
Has anyone ever seen a modification of Dux Britanium or Saga (or similar) for Caesar in Gaul?
Michael Perry
I'm looking for recommendations for WWII and Cold War games that either use 15mm or can easily be converted to use that scale, and aren't Flames of War. Are there any? Crunch-wise, I'm OK with anything from beer and pretzels to "bring a general staff, you'll need it."
Tyler Hill
Chain of Command is a lot more rooted in the actual history. One doesn't buy units with points but one uses historically correct Platoon structures with accurate weaponry and equipment. Ruleswise it also plays differently. It simulates the fog of war aspect a lot more than Bold Action and NCOs and officers play a bigger role. I like both and I think Bolt Action is a fine game, especially if you use a historically correct platoon structure instead of 6 five men squads armed with Assault rifles only and 3 flame tanks bullshit.
Ethan Parker
Battlegroup
Christian Scott
Rapid Fire and Command Decision are both originally meant for 15mm
Sebastian Russell
Thank you, I'll look into those.
Dylan Morales
Force on Force, works fine for WW2, but better for Cold War stuff.
Thomas Roberts
I tend to go for mostly historical-inspired structures for my BA lists, and I do find myself getting swamped by German players with assault rifles everywhere/US players with LMGs everywhere. I've never encountered a flamethrower vehicle, thankfully.
