Book 1 - Basic Rules and first wave of updated (from 1st edition of malifaux) models Book 2 - Second wave of updated models Book 3 - Campaign system and new M2E models Book 4 - New models Book 5 - New models & Master upgrades
>What is Malifaux? Malifaux is a 32mm Skirmish Tabletop game, with a focus on completing several different objectives, while denying your opponent their objectives
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>[Holding weird unsupported opinions and being] a very vocal poster who tries to shape and steer the meta. Ah, the very worst a forum can offer.
Carter Gutierrez
The worst bit is when weird listens to this shit, like the Levi nerf immediately after his plastic released because of ratjoy (whilst simultaneously nerfing ratjoy) and literally having a vote on their forums as to what models to buff in wave 3, so models like lelu and iggy got 0 costs they didn't need (and in iggy's case you might not even bother using) whilst Vasilisa got left in the dirt or how they went on to later errata the guardian with a buff despite it being an amazing model.
Luis Brooks
>Vasilisa Yeah. That's definitely a prime can date. She's so bad as to be practically non existent. I'm glad they realized guild guys were shit, and tried to do something about it.
Aaron Evans
user, please stop making the title hard to find at a glance.
Anthony Cook
Think anything's come out of the public beta that's gonna bite them in the ass? Didn't 10T's lineup get completely overhauled or something from their initial designs?
Jaxon Martin
>Vasilisa One of the top UK Nvb was having great successes with her last year (or the year before) in an alpha-strike capacity.
I don't know exactly how it works, but I think you Fast and Obey her with Collodi, and she cancarry other Puppets, so you use her to deliver a Coryphee or something into the enemy crew's support pieces Turn 1.
I assume it was Arcane reservoir, but it was said that half the reason no-one uses her is because no-one uses her so no-one knows how to.
Hopefully the hint of attitude that Wyrd are going to listen less in the wake of the shit-flinging off this open beta W5 comes through. Open Beta is fine, but not as a replacement for serious strenuous playtesting in-house.
Brandon Davis
Yeah but in that case the original designs actually sucked. She's like hayreddin tier glass cannon but costs way more stones. As for the open beta shit, i think open beta playtesting led to W5 being much better, nearly every change was for the positive. I absolutely wish they had done it for W5 master upgrades or had done it rather than a god damn blind vote for the W3 upgrades.
Jonathan Hernandez
I was informed last thread that it is now a meme. I'd actually planned to put it in the Subject field, as is now apparently tradition.
>Didn't 10T's lineup get completely overhauled or something from their initial designs? Pretty much. The Charm Warders inparticular, I think,had more than one total re-write in the opening few weeks. I get the impression that they had significantly more release slots than actual ideas for 10T.
Hunter Morales
How does one actually use Hayreddin? I see a bunch of neat ideas on his card but actually doing anything useful with them seems tricky.
Robert Williams
>Open Beta is fine, but not as a replacement for serious strenuous playtesting in-house. Very true. This wave is a bit of fuck up balance wise.
Since I'd the models are great. Since if them are mediocre or just plain bad.
Matthew Wilson
I haven't used him but I get the same vibe. I feel like he's too squishy for what is want to use him for.
Xavier Wood
>Since Some you stupid phone.
Leo Jackson
>Vasilisa It can be fun to launch a Coryphee up the board and fuck someones shit up the first time but once people are used to it it loses its impact
Parker Cook
Levi's box was around for a long time before he got erratad. It was the rat-engine that got nerfed soon after it's plastic release(brotherhood of the rat box)
Nolan Jackson
Take him with chiaki or another condition remover and a nurse. Chuck downers on him then cleanse the downers now he has armor 2 let him go charge something within 10 and fuck it up. Use him alongside non randomizing models to engage everything with his awesome staff.
His synergies appear to be with models that do not randomize so they can attack whoever he is in combat with (his charge range is huge) and he wants activation control so he can show up there after his foes have activated. Yan Lo can give him armor and can lightning jump foes into him where they have to choose between fighting DF7 and black blood or escaping his mighty staff. I haven't quite found a way to use him yet, but i am certain there is one. The downers trick allowed me to use him to practically wipe out an enemy crew in a henchman hardcore game. His metal box was, his plastic had been barely out six months, though i think it got an early release in 2014 black friday? For the majority of consumers though he came out later.
Adam Adams
How would you change unplayed models? Im not talking about the underplayed ones (right now anyway) but lets get some proposed changes for >Guild Sergeant >Vasilisa >Desperate Mercenaries >High River Monks And things on that tier of "wyrd scammed me out of my money this model is useless".
Samuel Williams
I might play an HRM if they doubled all their stats. Maybe.
Camden Ramirez
I think my go to would be to just drop the price.
I don't think that we for the sergeant though since he's meant to be a support piece. Maybe a 1ap action that can give guardsmen fast? Or a 0action obey? Giving out +ram to guardsmen?
Julian Carter
>Memeing for the sake of memeing.
In all seriousness, user. Don't. Just don't.
Asher Foster
Ml 12. Spooky. I feel thats only viable for hrm. Desperate mercs are already 4 stones and would be still crap at 3. Do you want rats 2.0? Vasi would be better served by just chucking on 3 wounds imo. Sarge needs something supporty maybe but fast sounds a bit boring. Maybe a small stat boost to them personally and a bonus to guardsmen near scheme markers?
Luis Hill
Whats the best discard causing thing in ressur?
Josiah Peterson
>Vasilisa >Any attack action taken again friendly puppet minion models within 6 suffers - on attack and damage flips something like that anyway
Nathan Mitchell
here's what I've been working on this week
Austin White
Reminder that wyrd knows how awful their stuff is to build and take great joy in our suffering
Tyler Peterson
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Evan Rivera
They gotta survive on something.
Jacob Walker
>not putting Malifaux General into the subject field >not even having the excuse of "oh shit I confused it with the name field" JFC literally kill yourself user.
Jordan Wilson
Someone tell me more about this guy? He's a local henchman and it could be relevant to me.
Justin Jenkins
malifaux table top sim mod I've got it up to wave 2
Hudson Parker
Nice! I have a russkie friend who wanted to try malifaux out!
Gavin Flores
Wht must dead rider be my fave sculpt but the worst rider?
Jeremiah Gomez
Im hoping to load malifaux TTS w2 next weekend
Juan Hughes
Gremlin crier loves hand hate, so does old major. Other than somer how do I engage in hand annhilation?
Dylan Lee
Really wish they labelled the pieces. There's a bijillion cat heads, legs and tail an I have no idea where half of them go. Also fuck building the hat.
Samuel Miller
You mean Trikk? He's just gobby without the experience to back it up. Try and work out if he's ever actually played with/against a model before taking his advice about it.
I just forgot to put a title in.
Logan Thomas
Yes, him. So he just likes to theorycraft and talk out of his own ass about it? Also, what's a gobby?
Isaiah King
A gobby is a blowjob. He didnt say "a gobby" though he used it as an adjective in that context it means someone who talks a lot.
Nolan Stewart
>A gobby is a blowjob. TIL. Thanks.
David Adams
>So he just likes to theorycraft and talk out of his own ass about it? >he used it as an adjective in that context it means someone who talks a lot. Yup, that's what I meant.
As was mentioned last thread, he publicly wrote off McCabe as useless after Nellie's release despitenever having played him because he didn't like the look of his mechanics from reading his card.
And then had the gall to try and evangelise on the forums.
>Really wish they labelled the pieces. That would be a huge help with these things. Even if it was just onhte build instructions, they had a labelled photo of the sprue.
Logan Baker
I really like the Gunsmith models. What Masters are they best used with?
William Hernandez
Ironsides
Jace Diaz
Or Kaeris for Burning synergy.
If you use her as the primary Burning distributor, you'll need models that can take advantage of that burning.
Ayden Roberts
Has Kaeris gotten any better with the new upgrades?
Zachary Sullivan
General consensus seems to be "better than Wave 4, but exactly the same adjusted for new Wave 5 powerlevels".
Still too resource-/AP-intensive, still needs too much set-up, still anti-synergistic (in that you need to spend her AP to set up the finishing moves that you now don't have AP to do).
Still does the cool shit she used to, but the Wave 5 shit didn't'fix' the core problems with her.
Ryder Allen
Noob to Malifaux here with dumb questions:
>Where can I get book 5? Is it out yet?
>Which set has the physical stat cards printed in the rule book?
>Is there any penalty for vaulting over an obstacle that is shorter or equal a dude's height?
Connor Ramirez
To move over an obstacle you need flight, incorporeal, a similar ability or it needs to be "climbable" in which case it costs movement equal to double its height to get onto the top of it, then you just walk forwards and fall down nice and easy. Climbing doesn't take your own height into account.
When you buy a model you should get the stat cards with it, though the generalist upgrade decks 1 and 2 and broken promises upgrade deck would be good investments. She can do some ok control stuff now and she can draw 3 cards pretty easily now. Overall it doesn't fix the problem that gremlins do better burning than her (they just have no synergy with it) and her control stuff still isn't really as good as most other control masters.
Isaac Robinson
What about a ht 1 fence or rock wall? Is it just 2 inches to vault? Does unimpeded get around that?
Julian Diaz
Unimpeded ignores severe terrain. I think since models like the mechanical arachnids ignore climbing penalties.
Xavier Price
> gremlins do better burning than her
Isn't Merris the only model that gremlins has that does burning?
Nicholas Parker
No.
None of the spiders ignore climbing penalties.
Noah Collins
Can you upload the grid somewhere? I need to use that to make my own mat.
Ayden Allen
Maybe I'm thinking first Ed.
Hunter Reed
Book 5 isn't out yet, but is slated to be released this month.
Dylan Gutierrez
Yeah. I think arachnid was a fist Ed thing.
I'd love if the brought it back. I'd like me reasons to use vertical terrain other than deploying from the shadows.
Michael Ward
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Matthew Harris
Some mats come with us pre-done. I think one night be my next investment.
Camden Walker
Got it any bigger?
I'm too much a skinflint - £35 just seems a bit too much. Anyone know any (UK/EU) matt sellers that do Malifaux marked mats for £25 or less?
Evan Brooks
Maybe it's a difference of opinion, but it seems like it's worth the money to get a nice mat without having to draw on it yourself.
Jaxson Cooper
Oh, it probably is, I'm probably just being old.
I still don't really like spending more than £5 per model, and a £35 matt is the Parker Barrows or Sandeep box.
It's not like markings on the matt are actually necessary, unlike more toys I don't have time to play with.
Austin Bell
Got a Henchman Hardcore tournament coming up soon. How does thsi sound?
Aiming to bomb the centre with Scheme Markers using the Performer and Mannequin, then blow them up to put enemies on --flips to Df and Wp.
Nicholas Brown
How do you guys feel about Marcus and Sandeep's new limiteds? I feel the former is interesting but overshadowed by his usual pick, while the latter has potential. Its finicky but pushes Sandeep into a different build and play style
Elijah Phillips
I personally prefer Mats By Mars, as their mats are marked out for GG2017 rather than just the basic schemes and strats.
Logan Evans
I think I'd want one with the basic markings, since all the GG stuff is changing every year.
Adrian Campbell
That is true. However once you have a basic mat it doesn't matter whether you have a standard one or not. The prices for the aformentioned mats are better than the competition when shipping is factored in anways, so I would just go with them for that purpose.
Levi Wilson
Man, thats insane.
Eli Torres
thanks, I've think I'm going to upload it as is, and update it slowly, it's currently up to wave 2. I will be taking requests for things if something needs to be added or changed
I'm strictly traditional about my/gt, but I can respect the work - you're a fucking legend.
John Ortiz
thanks, I have friends who live across the states and this was the way I could get to play with them again. I figured if people do it for 40k and someone made a terrible infinity table, why not fill this gap for everyone.
Aaron Myers
I have mostly used Lackey in the past, but with the TTS mod I may just make the switch.
Jace Smith
*Vassal in the past
Lucas Ortiz
Do you need any scans of artwork, cards, or text? Shit looks so cash
Lucas Flores
Hells yes! getting access to waves 3,4,5 pics that look good or are cropped is way harder than copy pasta wave 1-2 off of wyrds sight / google fu. I'm undecided atm if I'm loading in stat cards and upgrades...
Grayson Bell
Whoever painted that, do they take commissions?
Mason Green
site*
Charles Hernandez
I don't have the w3 pdf anymore since my device failed. Is it not in the OP anymore? Don't have pdfs, but the physical books I have are: -1.5 Rulebook -Twisting Fate -Storm of Shadows -Ripples of Fate -Broken Promises
Can provide 300-900 dpi scans, though you'd have to adjust brightness/contrast to your liking. Understandable regarding cards, don't want to get too much agro.
Jaxson Wright
well compiling quality individual units (wave3-5) images from the net into an imgur album would be hugely helpful. weather it's compiling or photo shopping the group pic like pic related...
Jack Robinson
I will generally take what I can get at this point so if you got good scans I wont shake a stick at ya.
David Wright
For ease of tracking, did you want to start the album with an image you already have? There were quite a few off to the right that were not edited yet. For knowing what to upload, could I leave them as scans or should I try to crop out the art?
might be better if we talked in discord, malifaux general has one, I'll hang there for a bit
Justin Evans
Got a two master tournament next month and I'm trying to figure out what will compliment Somer better. The Broken Promises cards are legal, but I don't own any of them.
So, I'm thinking Brewmaster, Wong, or Zipp as a secondary to Somer. What do you guys think I should practice?
Zachary Johnson
>7650x10530 12.1MB doesn't seem to be taking, may need to rescan in less than 900dpi
Joseph Smith
any henchmen particularly able to momentarily tank masters?
Wyatt Morgan
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Ethan Stewart
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Nolan Diaz
I'd gladly limit both Pariahs to 4 models if they each came with an extra ability and action. Additional master options will always be more powerful than more models, and most competitive lists don't take beyond 4 anyway.
Ian James
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Angel Collins
I fucked up the scan, had to redo it
Nathaniel White
Well, I better get to practicing Zipp then.
Really haven't figured him out.
Liam Flores
Does McCabe's loot bag upgrade allow you to just discard itself to get another upgrade? If so that is nice, as having a net gain of one stone isn't a bad deal if you don't want to keep it there for the whole game.
Landon Lee
Yep. You could throw it to someone else and have it swap out for something specific later but there's rarely gonna be a game where you don't want to swap it for a 2 SS piece asap. I would've liked something more exciting than +1SS even if it wasn't exactly good as a sort of alternative playstyle (something that powers McCabe up the more upgrades he has?). But I guess this is technically a buff.
Levi Nguyen
I do like the cloak at least. I have always been jealous of the Hodgepodge Effigy and its floral bonnet. The cloak is going to be tons of fun. As a TT McCabe player it is going to be easy to just swap in the cloak when I need it, and dupe a glowing saber when that offense becomes more of a priority. Though you are right in that something crazier would have been cool. Close combat McCabe isn't a bad deal already I suppose with Misdirection or Francisco.
John Murphy
You can get more than a single extra soulstone by using the terracotta warrior.