>Ark mobile wallets drop >huge disappointment as they're still "in development" and aren't even on iOS yet >app itself is pretty shitty >literally nothing else to look forward to soon >everyone realizing that even if they achieve their goals on the roadmap, the token itself is worthless and pointless
Fuck this piece of shit coin. The price is just going to continue to tank.
Yes. Even the Ark team has no idea what the point of Ark is, even when everyone keeps asking for clarification.
Austin Foster
I asked on the slack and people just lashed out as if I was fudding the coin
Elijah Wilson
>ARK VM is the only remotely useful feature >not a single word about it in their whitepaper >not a single line of code for it on their github >not a single shred of evidence it exists >they claim its 55% done and use it in their marketing copy
>not a scam
Landon Lewis
Exactly, it has a very cult-like vibe, when no one is capable of explaining what the fuck the point of Ark tokens actually is. This includes the dev team.
A project with $250+ million dollars in funding should be able to properly explain what the EXACT intended use is for Ark.
Jace Hernandez
>>not a single word about it in their whitepaper they only decided to do smart contracts in like august, they're remaking the whitepaper and taking a long ass time to do it honestly I feel like I'm fucking stuck in this coin, I don't even know what to put the money into if I sold. I just want them to answer what they want the token to actually do and to hire a REAL PR team
Jace Reyes
im att a profit with it. should i just jump ship?
Kevin Gray
I don't even know, I'm at a huge profit and bought in the spring but I don't even know what I should do with the coin
Ayden Martin
I think ICX is going to be huge next month so I am debating to put all my ark into that.
Jordan Lee
Give them to me.
Christian Davis
Similar boat, ark has made me very friendly to proof of stake, currently thinking of moving to pivx for staking and dragonchain for the enterprise blockchain stuff. Maybe that is what ark needs, just make it a privacy coin.
Owen Kelly
Ark doubled in the last 2-3 weeks. What are you all smoking?
Angel Torres
>reading comprehension "I'm at a huge profit"
Ryan Brooks
>what is this pump before the dump
Brayden Flores
What causes a post to be archived that is like 30 minutes or so old?
William Howard
>Fudding a token that is making solid gains lately.
>Thinking this is what a pnd looks like.
Wyatt Sanders
Bought Ark at 9k says thanks to biz. But my hands are getting weak now. There’s so much about the current situation that frustrates the fuck out of me.
Bentley Roberts
It's crashing right now.
Probably because nobody knows what the hell it actually does or is supposed to do
Jaxon Martinez
bought 100 ark at $2.20/share. sold it an hour ago at $7.50 and dumped it into bounty0x
fuck ark. there's coins mooning out there. not tryin to hover 10 feet above ground
Gavin Johnson
As a t. deluded arkie, even I admit the "release" of the mobile wallet is a huge disappoint and the slack dev chat isn't inspiring a lot of confidence in Q1 & 2 2018 performance. I do like the overall goals for this coin, the infrastructure it's trying to lay, the gains I've made over the past year, and I actually enjoy our delegates/sense of Veeky Forums presence in a coin.
That being said, I don't know that I won't trade it out for something else unless they have plans to release any sign of real application soon.
Hudson James
Only about as hard as everything else. Nothing to see here
Liam Taylor
What did you all expect? That the price will 3x the day the wallets come out?
Luis Cook
nice diversifcation. nigga get on delta
Lincoln Cook
You still haven't learned to look at the BTC chart whenever your alts start crashing?
Josiah Price
>share
reeeeeee
Christopher Garcia
>100 ark wow listen to this guy he's a high roller
Hunter Rodriguez
his money is just as valid as yours faggot
Hudson Brown
did I hit a nerve
Matthew Lewis
It's going down because the whole market is crashing dumbass. ARK $10 EOY.
>tfw can't even x2 money with Ark >tfw I could have invested in ripple and quintupled my money
Isaiah Gray
the only thing that made ARK interesting isn't finished. they have a spent a fuckton of time on a fucking wallet. nobody cares anymore. >they have blockchain listeners wooptie doo
Cooper Garcia
It will be big 2018, doesn’t look like q1 or 2 though, very disappointing. I bought in about $3 and an staking. I’m just going to hold and let the stack slowly build. I’d say ark is currently not a buy, nor is it a sell. Hold if you have enough to stake. Otherwise hop into icx while it’s cheap.
Isaac Mitchell
Smartbridge blockchains > Use ARK tokens to effect connected blockchains. ie: Use Ark to create a Smart Contract on ETH.
Ark will be $1000/Ark easily. cap this
Jaxson Hill
Just be glad you're able to dump your ark. I was doing some arbing between binance and bittrex and got 5k ark stuck in a bittrex transaction and the txID they gave me doesn't exist.. have been waiting 10 days for an answer to my ticket and seems like the same happened to lots of other people too.
By time i get to dump it'll be back in at the 20ks.
Jacob Garcia
MOOOODS
Samuel Robinson
Oh FUCK
Jayden Barnes
Yeah
Ian Adams
I just used the wallet and was so amazed with how quick the transaction was. What if I went all in at 45k?
Hudson Brooks
Time to buy $Link?
Jaxson Russell
Just did a transaction from Bittrex to Binance, literally took maybe 2mins with 51 confirmations..
Brandon Bell
I thought Ark was truly going to be the one....getting very nervous about its future right about now
Jason Harris
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Tyler Smith
>share
Kys
Jonathan Bennett
>What if I went all in at 45k? Bold, but you'll probably be fine.
Jordan Lewis
Why so confident on ICX?
Leo Bailey
Not going to lie, kind of awesome.
Sebastian Cruz
I have to believe in the Ark.
Anthony Brown
Smart bridge doesnt work. Its just a text field.
Daniel Morgan
It's crashing because of BTC, dumb faggot normie scum.
David Rodriguez
Android wallet is slick af and took less than 1 minute to download and build a profile. iOS wallet is likely exactly the same and would be just as easy to download, but apple is full of fudds so approval is delayed. Not much the devs can do about overly cautious bureaucracy machines that won't approve app submissions. Good thing I'm not a loser and got a phone that doesn't nanny me.
Eli Stewart
biz private whale here. I'm always FUDing ARK ironically, but I am legit scared after today. Probably gong to consider reinvesting 3/4 of it into something else. gg guys
Noah Hall
I've been holding since going all in at 110k sats and I finally dumped.
After the slack log from the devs posted about Ark VM I was already thinking about biking and this mobile wallet was the last straw. It feels good to be free!
Jose Russell
Same (not whale status though). Been in Ark since early this year and for the first time I've been genuinely concerned about the future of this project
Angel Collins
>their social media manager doesn't want to communicate with the community on reddit then disappears when people say he should be more active in doing his job
Thomas James
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Jacob Martinez
He stopped responding and disappeared once people got on his case.
Zachary Hughes
The dev team doesn't even know what they're doing.
You expect the social media manager to know?
Owen Rivera
djselery is such a fucking faggot, I don't understand why he still has a job. He doesn't know how to handle anything and should have been replaced months ago
Alexander Sullivan
Just downloaded it. It's pretty comfy. People are getting so antsy about their crypto thou, just chill and let it do it's thing.
Noah Martinez
Damn, I feel like dumping my bags now. This djselery guy and the other dude aren't a good look for ARK.
Gavin Roberts
what other dude?
Mason Flores
The fucking asian stoner, cannabanana or whatever is the worst. He adds nothing of value to the project and his sole purpose is to ridicule people. He's a cancer to Ark that should be extricated immediately. Find his facebook profile and you tell me if that's a guy who should be in charge of community relations for a project worth a quarter of a billion dollars
William Wood
I really wish Uncle Chang & Moon Man (biz delegate) would fork off Ark and start their own project.
goldenpepe in the slack is one of them (idk which) - he's a G who looks out for us /biz arkies
Wyatt Fisher
oh canna, I thought they kicked him out but apparently he's still in I'm so fucking close to dumping but like I said earlier I feel trapped in this coin at least if they ran the project we'd actually know what's going on
Dylan Young
I don't want to sound like a shill but I never cared about the mobile wallet desu. It's useless without the project being completed anyway.
Carter Garcia
I'm a long time holder too. 1200, not a big fish... I'm looking to reinvest too, but I would actually kill myself if it mooned due to some surprise announcement. I feel like I'm stuck in a bad relationship.
Wyatt Clark
I'd go with Chang and Moon in a heartbeat, solid guys
Gavin Moore
Same. I’ve held for so long I might kms if I sold and it took off
Jonathan Wilson
Their marketing and pr is really bad. And now the lack of communication might be hurting the project. Problem is the dev team and roadmap is so good that I want to stay because I know they will deliver in the end. But in the meantime it’s hard to see it stagnate.
Camden Hall
The mobile wallet has been overhyped within the ark community. As good as it is, it's not a game changer. The only major benefit is that a mobile wallet is supposedly required for being listed on large exchanges. Anyone who is disappointed with the lack of a pump after the wallet release is unironically deluded since it has been priced in for a while.
I can understand the nervousness about the marketing and PR though. On the bright side these problems are much more easily solved than technical ones, which is where the devs seem particularly strong.
Camden Murphy
IDK if they are more easily solved considered this teams seems to be stubborn af (refusing to market, hype, set deadlines, interact with the community. They should've shitcanned djselery and canna months ago but have yet to do so
Cooper Bell
I dumped my bags, sorry ark bros. Getting a IOC vibe from this. Dions Bros were cultish so are Arkies. I truly wish you all the best of luck, and to make good decisions.
Thomas Ortiz
>The only major benefit is that a mobile wallet is supposedly required for being listed on large exchanges What? Plenty of coins on large exchanges (assuming you mean poloniex or something) don't have mobile wallets. It's on bit and bin, what else matters as far as exchanges (aside from normiebase)?
Xavier Gray
i did that (over 1k ark) and it was 100% worth it as i trippled my money at peak and doubled it at current price. ICX is like ark and cvc except its practical, backed by companies universities and government. ark is a befuddled mess. i will admit i used to be a huge arkie but i just dont believe in it any more, its going nowhere fast
Julian Campbell
more
Adam Martinez
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Christian Rogers
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Nathan Flores
>these chat logs yikes
Brody Rogers
bithumb, coinone, bitfinex, etc. etc. etc.
Xavier Johnson
So what do we need to get this djselery guy fired?
He seems like an actual child. Can we get the biz_classic guys into that position instead?
William Mitchell
Honestly, we're trying to spread the good word despite the team's mishaps, especially when people like djselery pull this shit. We know the devs, the devs are great. The marketing is terrible.
The fact that the community rallies around delegates now is a good thing. We have more say in what happens, and we arguably have more control over ARK development as a whole when people like him fail at their job. They're already listening to us and taking us seriously. It's a start.
We're not PR/marketing guys, we're just some devs too that like ARK and wanna build cool things. We just happen to be good at internet.
Oliver Gonzalez
Not to sound like a shill or anything, but they have been delivering on certain things. We've been getting on more exchanges, we have the devs do go out to events, maybe not often but they do when they can. Sure, maybe they don't "hype up" their coin like Justin Sun and others do, but they do deliver on the work. People are just stressed out because they are seeing red in their portfolios that are mostly consisted of ARK. All the other coins are dropping in price too. Sure it's upsetting a little to see Lisk higher than ARK because ARK has better tech/team delivering on goals while Lisk's "updates" are nothing to write home about and all they do is "hype" up their coin and go green. But people have to realize Lisk has been around longer than ARK and is on many more exchanges including poloniex. But believe you me, its just the stress of the Red getting to you. You just have to hold, don't fall down. Pic related is how most people are feeling. It's all psychological fear.
John Roberts
Delivery means nothing if nobody hears about it. Unironically Veeky Forums has been one of ARK's saving graces.
Jason Torres
Fair enough.
This is roughly how I imagined the delegates working in the future anyway - we vote for them not just based on payout schemes, but also on their opinions on direction/governance.
Juan Diaz
You and Chang are great, you two and the biz_classic community are the only reason I'm staying onboard. Thank you.
Blake Ross
The problem with "just doing the work" is that the space is moving so quickly, that if you can't solidify your position in the brains of the masses, you risk being overtaken by worse projects with better marketing - and staying there long term.
Pretty much every project in crypto requires mass adoption for the project to be functional - what use is a bitcoin if no one will accept it as payment?
Ryan White
How about I give an example then even though I don't like the company, but one that came after and beat the 1st person to market. Facebook took out Myspace and it had comes years after Myspace. The 1st movers aren't always the ones that end up dominating in the end. Let me give one more example. Remember AOL? The 1st mover in ISPs. Now dominated by companies like Time Warner and Comcast etc etc.
Maybe you could say Facebook and other ISPs had better marketing but in my time AOL and Myspace had tons of marketing. I understand your worry but you have to relax.
Jordan Hughes
I kinda like that their marketing could be improved, it leads me to believe they aren't overvalued like other companies and could be undervalued.
Nathaniel Russell
They already have a fully functional DPOS, which gives the user around 10% return per year. Those are insane numbers in comparison with what normie establishments are offering. That alone should be enough to push this coin to the masses, I'm 100% sure it already would be worth more than Lisk if they actually advertised it properly. My guess was that it's either the devs don't want this coin to go viral until they release some more key features, or the guys behind PR aren't doing their job properly. These logs makes me swing towards the latter. In that case, they need listen to the community and start redoing their whole marketing strategy, or fire some people responsible for marketing. People are not stupid, once word gets around that the team is basically saying fuck off to the community, money will go flow out of Ark.
Cooper Moore
>That alone should be enough to push this coin to the masses, I'm 100% sure it already would be worth more than Lisk if they actually advertised it properly. >My guess was that it's either the devs don't want this coin to go viral until they release some more key features
I’ve been thinking this recently.
Is Ark capable of handling a massive influx of new users without core2?
Lincoln Rogers
To be fair the real wallet is a bit shit, it's not user friendly and I had a hard time finding how to send from it. It also doesn't update your balance until you goto the second screen.
Julian Jackson
Mobile wallet wont let me vote for a delegate desu It says transaction failed Am I retarded
Benjamin Stewart
Redirecting question to moonman and chang, want to know that too
Connor Rivera
you have to be sarcastic, retarded, or never used another crypto wallet in your life
Thomas Parker
there's a particular coin that does everything ark does, but better, has like 20x-50x smaller market cap, more active developers, and an active community, and has an android wallet coming very soon. Arkies....
Kevin Price
Having to hit a button just to bring up send/receive is fucking retarded, but overall the wallet is smooth as butter.