Medkits: Hot or not? Should FO be chosen every time before Paramedic option?
Josiah Richardson
Ha ha, boobs for eyes.
I shoot a flash pulse far more often than I shoot a medikit. People who heal tend to be dedicated healers (with a Servant Bot).
Jaxon Reyes
Depends heavily on the list and mission. FO is usually the better choice, but if you run a HI heavy list, a medkit can be the difference you need.
Nathaniel Jones
List dependent. If you're a big tanky swoleguys sort of player, Paramedics can be a huge fuck you to your opponent in the right circumstances.
Forward Observers are more useful the less direct you intend on being.
Chase Campbell
Are the RPG .pdfs the most up-to-date versions? Could a kind user please check?
Jackson Morgan
But FOs are pretty much only useful as flash pulsing specialists?
Carson Bailey
I'm pretty new to the hobby and recently picked up the red veil kit. I'm p into haqqislam and the idea of a light infantry heavy army but I don't see models for some of the stuff. Do I just have to proxy everything or am I missing something here? What do people use for daylami? Also, should I definitely not be using daylami?
James Miller
Daylamis come in both brand new and the older Hassasin Bahram starter set. They're cheap filler, nothing more, nothing less. Nothing to build your list on, as they're irregular and thus don't provide order to their group.
Generally speaking proxies are fairly well tolerated, but that ofc varies per local meta. If the profile has no model, you should be able to proxy it with something sensible.
Gabriel Lewis
Panzerfaust profiles are probably the most interesting ones for Daylami.
Connor Clark
Putting stuff in the Targeted state can be useful too. Especially if you're doing a lot of speculative fire.
Julian Peterson
Marauder core link: pure madness?
Ian Martin
General rules (or rules of thumb) for proxying is:
Use something of the same silhouette
If it the model for a specific profile exists, try to use it.
If you need a FO/Paramedic/Hacker but don't have one, use the regular rifle version and note the specialist status to your opponent.
For weapons specifics, try to use a model from the same unit.
Close combat posed models (likely without visible guns) can be used for any weapon you want.
If the model and unit doesn't exist (or like in the case of Halqa are out of print or otherwise hard to get) use something of the same silhouette (hopefully painted in a similar scheme to the rest of your guys).
Examples of sensible proxies:
Ghulam Rifle+LSG as a Doctor or FO
Khawarij Rifle+LSG profile for Khawarij Spitfire (spitfire doesn't have a model).
Beyond Red Veil's Hassassin Fiday (no visible gun) for any of its gun loadouts.
A USAriadna Grunt for a Halqa.
Naffatun for Djanbazan
Examples of Unsensible proxies:
Servant Bot for Tarik Mansuri
An unpainted Ghulam next to another unpainted Ghulam of the same time, both of which are profiles like an HMG and Hacker, except you switch between the two of them when a certain opponent model comes into view.
Daylami will be getting new sculpts delivered soon (if not already). They already have some in starters. Having like three of them being Panzerfaust profiles are pretty fun (neat for surprising your opponents through inconvenient infiltration).
Aiden Ward
>If you need a FO/Paramedic/Hacker but don't have one How are these roles represented on their models? Medic bag, hacking visor and ???
Colton Fisher
I don't think a dedicated Forward Observer Model exists, but if it does (if Karakuri and other remotes are any point of reference) it'd be little antennas and lasers.
FO status is like 100% intended for proxies and declaring it with your opponent.
Some models are 100% intended to cover multiple profiles, like Shikami, Hassassin Ayyar (with the Viral Pistols), and such.
Nolan Wood
Seriously, there's like a million boobs on your face wtf
Logan Nelson
The literal, official FO model for the Maverick has absolutely nothing to show for its FO.
Asher Taylor
How's the quality on the Shaolin Monks box? Do they look good enough in scale next to the Red Veil minis?
Parker Jones
>Daylami will be getting new sculpts delivered soon (if not already).
And it will end up as Ghulams in the end. Having more than 2 irregulars are unhealthy in my oppinion.
Robert Gray
Medkits kill your dudes because nobody has the PH to make those odds of wasting orders getting near the guy and rolling fucking PH-3 to maybe get them back up worth it, hell, even this thread's titular Dr. Worm has killed more dudes and wrecked more of my TAGs than he has fixed to the point I see medics a complete and utter liability outside of maybe Haqqislam or if we're running spec-ops, and even then you better clench your ass and prepare your command tokens. I honestly only ever take medics/engies if I'm running something big and expensive that absolutely needs to live.
Forward Observers on the other hand blast your fucking enemies with Flash Pulse that can disable even a rampaging Dogface with Total Immunity completely dead in it's tracks all for the low cost of one point AND they shoot with WIP which is almost universally always better than BS for the troops you take FO on, making every single shitty ass cheerleader a pretty considerable ARO hurdle that can toss a wrench into an opponent's Rambo strat. Being able to push buttons and FO, then grenade something out of LoS with not just zero penalties, but a bonus to accuracy is also pretty dope.
Aaron Taylor
Not bad. They hold up pretty well IMO. Not much shorter than the male Zhanshi (even without a boost in height by basing) but of course dwarfed by the HI.
Connor Walker
what kind of basing should I do with CA? Muted dry earthtones seem like they would contrast nicely but might look boring
Christopher Adams
Nah, I run it all the time. Putting a whole fireteam 4" up is great. I like it in Decapitation when they get to deploy 20" in. Very little your opponent can do to get away from a fireteam deployed that far up.
Jaxon Harris
>Looking at Acquisition scenario >ITS manual list deployment areas being 16 inches deep >Diagram labels them being 12 inches
So what is it? How dumb am I?
Adam Jenkins
>Deploy in corners mission >Can deploy your HVT on your board edge between your two zones
Dominic Butler
When they're cheaper than 10 points or something you're going to put orders into anyway, you can get away with quite a few of them.
Thomas Brown
Did they say there's going to be a standard release version of the USARF intel model? I swear I had heard that rumor and I dearly hope it's true, the gencon one has a horrid pose
Jaxson Sanchez
yeah and he comes with a shotgun and a rifle arm.
Hunter Clark
I love it
That shotgun pose is pure "delet this"
Joshua Myers
I got some models in the mail today.
I am very excited about them.
Connor Lewis
I did mine in grey concrete with red weeds (dyed reindeer moss) growing over it.
Hunter Roberts
Do we know if there's a sniper rifle arm swap?
Caleb Lee
They probably woulda showed it.
2 models at the last presentation had arm swaps. The Intel Grunt and the Taskmaster HRL/Red Fury
Evan Jenkins
Bummer. Know any way to get my hands on a USAriadna sniper rifle without hands stuck to it?
Elijah Carter
I would bet money that the Intel spec ops mini will come with a weapon sprue with snipe rifle.
Ethan Sanchez
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John Perez
Is that sized right?
Tyler Brooks
Since that's an older spec ops model it may be big or small for other models. Here is an opened blister though.
Robert Green
Got the Jeweler's saw I just bought and did my first full on conversion for a metal model. 7 years into this hobby you'd think it'd come up sooner. Guilang Combi Rifle. Better than I was expecting half way through, but not as good as I might have hoped.
Would you deem it presentable?I'm a roughly B-level painter planning on painting the rifle black (or a very dark grey). Any tips while the green stuff is still drying?
Brody Wood
It should be ok, looking at it. A lot of the older minis had oversized guns.
Need more snipers for a spammy grunt fireteam with 3 sniper rifles.
Dylan Sanchez
The conversion is good. The gun has a chunk taken out of it but it still looks natural. My only real complaint is that you sullied a new model with a giant old scale gun.
Cameron Clark
The Gencon exclusive one could be any grunt since its pistol+knife haha
Anthony Gutierrez
>sullied a new model with a giant old scale gun. That was indeed a concern of mine, but just simply trimming the barrel of the sniper just wasn't looking good enough, and I had a spare Yu Jing combi rifle from IDK where so I figured I'd give it a shot. The rifle indeed looks big, but it's actually not all that much longer than the Zhanying's Breaker Rifle. And it's not like my army is a stranger to oversized guns.
Thanks for the assurance.
Julian James
I have that one, want to put a sniper rifle on its back.
Aiden Garcia
Woah, Dr. Worm has WP 14. I cannot believe that he's hurt more things that he has helped.
Adrian Hughes
Alien flora?
Jeremiah Davis
Daylami aren't even that much worse than Ghulam in terms of pure shooting.
Jordan Cooper
I mean, they both have the same BS and no defensive skills. The Daylami with camo can even be better at shooting if they make use of surprise shot. Ghulam aren't meant to be doing lots of shooting though, they're generally around to feed orders to better units. Daylami can't do that, so they're not really a Ghulam substitute as they are a different kind of troop entirely.
Joseph Butler
As the guy who maintains it, yes. All quiet on the RPG front for a while now, newest shit is the AHS stuff. I think there might be one last version when they've finished printing the books, but that's it.
Jackson Nelson
Guys, I need inspiration for basing. I was thinking of maybe just painting a road onto the base, but I'm not sure how that will turn out. What do you guys do?
Thomas Rodriguez
Create some pedestrian first using a plasticard. Add sands to the designated road for texture (just the road, not the pedestrian), then base it with black.
Jacob Lopez
I already hate what bits of the face I can see. Glad I kept bought not-HUNK
Jaxson Mitchell
There's a couple missions where the maps don't match the text. The ruling on the forums is that the text always wins.
Ian Fisher
Well, it sure looks better than just clipping the barrel away.
Aiden Lewis
I usually try to texture such bases first with something. Milliputty or other epoxies, for example.
Levi Rivera
Hey I was looking for some advice. I want a Rasyat but the old models are pretty well old. So I was thinking about taking a Yu Jing Tiger Solider a hot as hell model and Morating it up.
But I am not sure how to do that does any one have any advice / ideas? I have some Spart Oznat Heads and a Sograt head I can use.
Just not sure what I want to do.
Ryan Cruz
>so they're not really a Ghulam substitute as they are a different kind of troop entirely.
Which is exactly what I was saying. You play them as shitty attackers. After all, Active Turn attacks have advantage to AROs.
Alexander Long
Paint them the Morat colors. If you have green stuff you might be able to sculpt the hair. See if you can give him a sword. I advise using the male model since it will give more of that Morat bulk. If Tiger soldier has a free arm you can swap it out with a Morat gun arm if you can find one.
Tiger Soldier and Rasyat Whose old model is amazing so shut the fuck up look overall pretty similar so you don't really need to do a lot.
Alexander Hall
I got the Spitfire one and I am thinking I might give him a Morat bayonet and the hair is a good call thanks.
Also I don't they look bad they just look old and don't fit well at all with the newer stuff IMO. I think Kurgats and Zerats have the same issue but not as bad.
Joshua Johnson
Use Oznat head, cut the headdress off. Not fantastic, but it gets the job done quickly and easily. If you want anything better you
I like the old Rasyat models too (apart from the old CA spitfire design), but I can respect someone wanting their army to be consistent.
My friend made his Rasyat by gluing the wings from a garuda tacbot to his Raktorak with Vulkan Shotgun.
Lincoln Davis
You can also have them follow your dudes and provide additional ARO support. Remember, 2 AROS from different sources can fuck someone up
James Walker
One of my buddies did the same thing with the "starfish" from the old Rasyat.
Gavin Morgan
Oh man that sounds pretty cool as well I might have to do that.
Xavier Stewart
ooooooh, that's really dirty.
Gabriel Stewart
Out of our group of 5... 2 have sold up.
Feels morose man...
Lucas Mitchell
All WIP14 means is a 70% chance of success and it seems I've been fucked by probability hard, but the Worm honestly kills more things than he saves. Plus he's fat. S3 is absolute trash for a specialist you really want to keep out of sight. This is why for missions where it's allowed I take a Treitak Spec-Ops medic/engie, always with WIP15 - at least he can fit through narrow doors and has a little bit better chance to not kill things.
Also Sophotect is a superior Dr. Worm and that makes me extra salty.
Asher Richardson
You do understand that Dr. Worm can get re-rolls on things for command tokens?
Josiah Rogers
One of ours too, though it might have been Rodok instead.
Robert Reed
holy crackers that is a lot of different skills and actions that units can do
how do you remember them all?
Liam Morales
Hey I have only played a new few games but I think I might have fucked something up.
I was throwing smoke grenades while I was in the smoke.
But after reading the rules a bit more do I have to do a speculative fire to be able to do that and if so why?
Brody Baker
Yes because you can't see in smoke.
Gabriel Barnes
I thought most sane people removed command tokens from their games.
Jack Perez
>no coordinated orders >no fireteams Nah, it's just you and it's retarded.
Josiah Gonzalez
>I thought most insane people removed command tokens from their games.
Had to fix your post. You had a typo.
Ethan Kelly
Not at all. Aside from strategic use sucking orders away (which has been partially mitigated with the most recent ITS season) command tokens are universally fantastic improvements to the game.
Jason Wilson
Most units do only some things well, so it's not that hard. Sometimes you don't. At the beginning it's not rare to forget even pretty major special sklls a particular unit have, like mimetism, but with time it becomes easier and you can always check the profile.
It's when you remember stuff you begin to have problems with toolbox units, as you have so many option it's difficult to choose.
John Collins
I think printing out the skills onto index cards might help, especially for the hacking programs
does anyone sell decks or already printed order and hacking cards?
Elijah Rogers
There's one, but hardly needed since Army apps already handle it for you.
Daniel Murphy
By playing with the same list a lot. You get familiar with the specific rules of your guys and get that shit on lock.
Michael Baker
Yeah, I've made the same mistake. You have to do Speculative Fire because the smoke you are in blocks LoS.
Kayden Fisher
Command Tokens are an extra layer of complication but they do add a whole lot to the game when you wrap your head around them.
yeah, buff cubes, when my faction doesn't have cubes. limit orders when I already have more orders then others. give CO when I don't need them as all tokens can be moved with one order anyway. They only buff people that play yu jing or aleph, and fuck those people and their msv2 models.
Jason Morgan
>when my faction doesn't have cubes Aaaaand mystery solved. I bet that you're from Eastern Europe
Ian Bailey
Estonian cross-dresser please kill yourself.
Ryder Fisher
I'll take a slightly riskier bet and say Poland. They can be hard to distinguish but I've got a good feeling about this one.
Evan Ortiz
>pooland >not Eastern inb4 Central Europe meme
Isaac Wright
Cube Jaegers in army builder. They're weird AD2 paramedics.
Zachary Bennett
Poland was always western europe. Defenders of catholic faith, defending europe against the turkish and russian barbarians. Copernic and Curry, only place that welcomed jews an mass where they had their own senat, gathered own taxs etc.
Brandon Green
Happy they cost .5 SWC.
Dominic Ramirez
can Ariadna take them?
Easton Wilson
Not what I expected.
Brody Adams
I mean specifically Poland, within Eastern Europe.
Maybe they weren't once, but they're full Eastern Europe now. Starving under communist rule does things to people, turns them into savages who despise decency.
Kevin Cruz
Man, those look very nice with Joan/Wallace.
A full on Doctor profile would have been pretty cool though.
Jaxon Green
All vanilla armies have them at AVA1. No sectorials though.
Alexander Watson
So with this update does that mean that TAGs keep their specialist profiles? Which armies got to keep Scarface?