Warhammer 40.000 General /40kg/

/40kg/ is shit posting made corporal.

Some British dude just posted a review of the Manta. Taufags may be interested.

youtube.com/watch?v=9s9mFEaSfOM

>using FW

FLG was reviewing the Admech Codex today.
They say the codex is really great and most things are scary.

Any ideas or hopes as to what we'll get as our legion trait, Thousand Sons players? What about psychic powers?
I think the return of something like soulblaze could be pretty neat. Maybe doombolt and stuff too.

>re-roll building damage

>+1 on Psychic tests against buildings in cover

You're a right cheeky cunt, m8.

So do you guys think that the parallels between the Horus Heresy and Satan's fall in Paradise Lost were coincidental or intentional? Both were mighty among their respectful kin, both were motivated by notions of equality which inevitably drew them into evil, and both were ultimately powerless against the 'All-Mighty' despite initial success in their final battle, which was followed by banishment to a Hellscape. Obviously the Heresy isn't a full-on rip of Paradise Lost, but there seem to be enough similarities to warrant the question.

>+1 on psychic tests (counts towards Perils)
>Mandatory power generation from the Tzeentch Daemons table, no Dark Hereticus for you
>Warpflamers points increase due to regaining Warpflame
>Magnus points decrease

Honestly they're not wrong if you do the right build and pop the right stratagems.

The problem is it doesn't leave a lot of room for customization if you make them good, they're probably going to be pretty mono-list in the competitive scene.

>it's another rerolling buildings to cover +1 tests of psychics

I think people expect to get broken stuff and stuff like WarConvo.
Rather, character spam and IG are outliers that need to be brought down

I want protective psychic powers.
I want rubric squads to be able to take something other than smite.
Maybe only perils on double 1s.
I want weapons options on Scarab Occults.
Maybe an actual heavy weapons unit because I REAAAALLY struggle with high toughness high wound models.
Spend CP to auto pass a psychic check.
I want Icon if flame to not suck dick.

So what's going on with those monopose deathshroud. I thought the actual kits were supposed to be poseable

I think they just hoped to get the nerfs to Skitarii Infantry undone. Which honestly should have happened.

Maybe intentional, maybe a side-effect of ripping off of all that 80's HEVY METUHL which happened to take a lot of themes from Paradise Lost.

Furthermore, the RL Horus myth is similar to Lucifer's story anyways.

>I want protective psychic powers.
Almost definitely happening.

>I want rubric squads to be able to take something other than smite.
Unlikely but possible.

>Maybe only perils on double 1s.
How often do you roll double 6's that this is a problem? Modifiers don't increase the chance of perils because 11+1 is not the same as "double 6".

>I want weapons options on Scarab Occults.
If it's not on the sprue it's never ever happening.

>Maybe an actual heavy weapons unit because I REAAAALLY struggle with high toughness high wound models.
New units would be really nice, I hope they get something to bring them more in line with the huge Death Guard release.

>Spend CP to auto pass a psychic check.
Look at GK. You'll probably get something more like spend a CP to do a psychic test on 3d6.

>I want Icon if flame to not suck dick.
Icon of Despair didn't change, doubt this one will either.

Its intentional, they've said so before in older interviews.

No real battle report this week from me. A new player showed up to the flgs looking to play his first game, so I ran a little skirmish tutorial with him - very simple, pretty much just walk forward, shoot, charge to help him get a grasp of the mechanics and how his weapons worked.

After the game was over I took a few pictures of the other two games going on: marines vs sisters and guard vs chaos.

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>How often do you roll double 6's that this is a problem? Modifiers don't increase the chance of perils because 11+1 is not the same as "double 6".
1/36 times. Memes aside, I think it's a fluffy change that isn't too strong.

>If it's not on the sprue it's never ever happening.
Bummer. Combi bolters fucking suck.

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>RL Horus myth is similar to Lucifer's story anyways
His dad was dead with a literal golden penis when he was inseminated, raised by his mother to overthrow his uncle and take revenge for his father's murder? Or that much of the details of his story have been lost to time? Or are you just talking out of your ass?

>Memes aside, I think it's a fluffy change that isn't too strong.
It's definitely not too strong, in fact I think it's too weak to merit the space it would take up in the rules section unless it's bundled in with something else in the Legion trait. I expect they'll get something better than that.

>Combi bolters fucking suck.
*Inferno* combi-bolters are pretty good, though.

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>Grey Tau
Memes aside well, I buy that he is new. Literally running the SC box barely put together
Hopefully it was fun

Can't you just take Predators with lascannons?

>Combi bolters fucking suck

nani? Inferno Combis on Scarab Occult are pretty good for the points.

He had a great time and said he'd be back next week. I gave him two pieces of advice: never buy an ugly model, paint what you buy before buying more.

>bundled in with something else in the Legion trait
I'm about that. "Masters of the warp - units with TS keyword only perils on double 1s. Additionally, ts units add 1 to deny the witch rolls"

>*Inferno* combi-bolters are pretty good, though
Still S4

>No one paints TS's like this anymore

It's a damn fucking shame.

I made the second mistake myself

>get imperial fist squadron
>guard sprue has half the special weapons available to it
goddamnit GW
>also get chaos terminator lord/sorcerer box
>sprue sheet is just folded in half, and instruction manual is folded, emphasizing they were just folded to fit into a smaller box

what the fuck GW, the last time I had this much awful quality I was working with finecrap.

This guy's custom chapter is the "Forge Lords", btw, which I misremembered as "Storm Lords" a few weeks back. He's all about tons of wargear and bionics.

Call them.

Similar in the broad strokes of the setup:

>bad guy ruling the kingdom
>rebel to take out the bad guy!

except Horus won and Lucifer lost.

>Still S4
Not that bad in this edition, you wound all the way up to T7 on a 5+

Also when TS get access to Veterans of the Long War that should really help carve things up.

Sisters won this game buy the first blood point.

S4 is all you need for killing MEQ.

I mean, what would they do? 'lolsorry!'

I thought his captain was a really cool conversion, so I got a closeup picture. If I ever start marines it will probably be Minotaurs with those crested helmets.

Why is it that I see so much shit tier painting at stores? Like for every 20 shit armies there's one decently put together one. Am I the only one who deals with this? Or does that shit run rampant all over?

Usually they will replace the kit if you have a reciept

They'll likely send you free shit. Despite being garbage on the front end, GW does have pretty good customer service (in order to make up for that).

Shoo shoo ADB

>Horus won and Lucifer lost.
debatable on both accounts

Are Tau breachers any good? What should I pair them with in their devilfish?

>conversion
user that's literally just a Sternguard. The kit is damn sexy though so it's okay.

>replace the kit
the kits are fine, the sorc box was just obviously shoved into a smaller box, and the guard kit has everything it SAYS it does, that's just not half of what guard has available to them.

Oh, is it? I don't play marines so I didn't recognize it. Still, very cool model.

Thought about getting some rubrics for my Night Lords and painting them midnight complete with lightning. It would probably be similar to that pic, actually.

>wound on 5+
Yeah. And you get a mountain of shots, which is nice. But I really just want a combi melta squad to dump on a vehicle. Or something other than a power sword. I just feel like vanilla chaos termies are always a better choice.
Although I've owned the shit out of some infantry dropping them in, chaos familiaring for prescience. 16 2+ hits wounding on 4s ap-2 and dumping the hellfyre rack and auto cannon into big shit.

Dude, we told you this in the last thread. The Cadian sprue is fucking ancient, seriously it's either early 00s or late 90s, and back then you were fucking lucky if your unit leaders were even in plastic, let alone weapon options in the box. For reference the plastic Tactical Squad at the time had a ML and nothing else, because you got all your special weapons and shit in metal blisters. GW actually still sell the metal Cadian special weapons for precisely this reason.

Do what the rest of us do and just kitbash if you really must have X guys with Y weapon per squad.

Why does it matter if it was shoved in a smaller box?

Right but rubrics are already like the best Meq killers in the game. I need to kill dreadnoughts and riptides with my Ds terminators, not tac squads.

Sure is. Well, actually, it's been so long since I bought a box I may be wrong on the shoulderpads and helmet (although the rest is for sure from Sternguard) but I'm confident I'm right.

It's a sweet kit though, I have a bunch I use as veteran sergeants for my regular dudes.

the chaos kit, for posterity.

you can see the folding crease on the sprue sheet.

yeah, I'm not trying to get new opinions on that, I just find it annoying.

do you think anyone short of tournament lists would care if I proxied shit like grenade launchers and meltaguns if I'm just using plasma?

just seems unprofessional.

I'm pretty lucky at my store and there is a lot of well painted dudes. Note that this is my LGS, not GW. There's another store about an hour away where I have to be nice when people are really proud of a frankly terrible paint job. There's another store about an hour and a half away where there's a guy who proudly shit paints because "muh tournament scene" and pays people to paint stuff he wants to look good. Actually, I recently found out that quite a few guys in my local group didn't paint theirs, which makes me conflicted about my stuff.

Say soulblaze and some spells from the discipline of Tzeentch were to come back for Thousand Sons. How would you balance them to fit more into 8th?

You have preds, brutes, raiders, hell even maulerfiends for that. You shouldn't be throwing your terminators at those units.

ok so my army has a nurgle demon prince with wings pushing up the middle of the map, and he needs an escort that can get him there fast, not die, and do a bit of damage when I get there. Do I pick a scourge/bolter helbrute, a plague flamer bloat drone, a melee defiler, or a plague flamer crawler (the DG tank)? I will cast -1 to hit on whatever is pushing so that will help some, and I have some other distraction units to keep the fire down a bit more, but I worry that it will be gunned down and leave my DP vulnerable

Are helbrute and mauler friends good?
Captcha : 1000 veterans

A bloat drone is pretty cheap, fast and survivable, I think it makes a good cover unit for that purpose.

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between what sprues you get in the 5 man intercessors vs 10? Was thinking of splitting a box of 10 with a friend for the slight savings, but not sure if it's just double the sprues of the 5 man box or if they skimp out on some stuff.

Also, this image isn't real and I'm sorry.

I think so too, but for the same price I can get the crawler with a lot more firepower, +1T, -1" movement (and no FLY) and 2 more wounds. That is what is messing with my calculations. The crawler just seems far harder to kill and when it gets near the front it can either stop and fire on hard targets or support my infantry and flame theirs. I do think both the bloat and the crawler would probably be better than the defiler

No difference. It's literally 1 set of the 2 sprues instead of 2 sets of the 2 sprues.

How funny would it be if GW made Scarab Occult Cataphractii terminators? Movement of 3" but 4++ with 3++ on All is Dust

All the primaris infantry are duplicate sprues so no difference at all, they are made like that so you can have a 10man with 1 sergeant or two 5man with 2 sergeants

Are Termies still trash this edition? I love the look, plus the all-Termie army has Space Hulk implications. I don't really care about building a force for winning every game, just one that doesn't get stomped every single time.

And if I build an all Terminator force, should they be loyalists or Chaos?

They are solid. Not miracles, but you arent gibbing yourself by taking them.

Terminators are the best theyve ever been, its an optimal unit but you can win games and not get stomped in your casual games.

They're actually really good but they still cost a shitton.

Chaos termies are probably more versatile because of the huge buff to combiweapons and the lack of a forced power fist, despite loyalists getting TH/SS along with the specialist patterns of armor.

As a GK player I can tell you that Terminators are so fantastically better compared to 7th you'll probably overvalue them because they used to be such trash. They are still good but they are priced accordingly.

Chaos termies with combi-plasma are currently disgusting with a little help from a sorcerer. However, termies in general are better because they have double the wounds and double the shots. Storm/Combi bolters being rapid fire 2 is a huge boon.

I can't believe anyone would buy Morty over Typhus after this.

Could be interesting. FW already has that covered though model-wise.

It's sad though because now GK terminators are also not worth taking over Paladins because of the points cost.

Do people ever use Eldar War Walkers?
Ive seen a bunch of battle reports, but never any war walkers in them.

The Siege of Terra side-story is worth an anthology book at least. Lots of stuff- it's Earth! It was Earth all along! You've finally made a mon-keigh out of me! Earth is where all the non-Imperial stuff is! You just have to dig for it! What city did they stick the Eldar ambassador in so as to better ignore her? What about all the secret bases made to cope with the various disasters? The under-the-north-pole Shadow Government base? The secret hidden cloning facility made by The Houses Of Rulership when the Emperor wasn't on earth? The remains of the various heroes of the past- The sepulcher of The Shadow, the thrice-entombed body of Lenin, the grave of Future Captain Picard, etc etc.
The hidden, untouched, never-found hidey-holes of the various aliens who took over the world, Twilight Zone and Outer Limits style? Where did they hide the ocean? Is there going to be anything about the planet Venus? There should be Squats? Kroot! Puns! Making jokes about other series, and just having fun. A lot of the early WH40k had stuff like "So you want us to go to the planet Duncan in the star system Hines, to rescue a foodstuff production factory from the Eldar... This is a joke about rescuing a cookie factory from the Keelber Elves!" Who will be the one to name-drop the White Dwarf magazine?

Terminator force? Go Deathwing m8, they have the best melee unit and have solid shooting unit along with fearless so no losses to moral, not to mention the ability to mix and match weapons allowing dedicated TH/SS tanks for the squad. The only other thing you'd need is a land raider or two for transport and anti-tank

It's time to take your ritalin buddy

B T F O

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They are, but mostly because power fists got substantially cheaper in the transition to codex. I'm hoping Chapter Approved will fix it, but for now I'm in love with PAGK so my Termies are mostly sitting my games out, except a single squad of Paladins.

>gibbing yourself
>mfw take 5 terminators
>place them on table during deployment
>instantly explode into giblets

Noice. Well I suppose there's no reason for us to not split then, thanks.

Spamming PAGK is hilarious now. Though I take a squad of Terminators and 2 squads of Paladins, the former for fluff and the latter because they're a damn good bodyguard unit.

Would a looted Interceptor backpack make a good counts-as jump pack for my Librarian from my chapter of scavenger marines?

I like the sticks, but putting it on a regular guy makes on sense and actually using its abilities requires psychic protection according to the fluff.

>deploying them on the table instead of teleporting
This is bait, right?

Sorry i only play the chapter that are good at sucking other guys like the Blood Angels