Tooth and Tail

> everyone is an asshole and every faction is evil

Man, I was worried about that. The concept and the art seem so baller.

Hopper and her accent is pure.

We're going to see a lot of this until the dumb 'grimdark = realistic' and 'flawed characters = unlikeable baby-eating rapists' trend kickstarted by by the ASOIAF series.

>the leaders are all rats
at the risk of summoning *them* Is this...Is this a metaphor

Well, there is the fact that the pigs screw over everyone else because they've been the food source forever and have been in hiding to create an artificial famine.
Basically since everyone else is too stupid to see beyond the desire to eat meat, the pigs, who are the servant species, created an artificial famine and then convinced the four factions to fight it out in the final battle before turning on their masters and slaughtering the remainders of the dumbasses who had been literally eating each other to death.
So the good guys actually win because everyone else is a fucking monster.

Thing is that in TnT it is seen as a sign of culture to eat meat.
The only group of animals who are completely fine with eating grain are pigmen, hence why they are the farmers in the game. They farm grain, eat it and are butchered themselves.
Storywise, since Pigmen population is dwindling, The Civilized (the Clergy) have instituted The Harvest. An event like the Hunger Games, only you don't get to fight, go directly to the kitchen and don't collect 200$ income.
When the son of a former prize-fighter turned distillery-owner, the gentleman in blue, is culled during a harvest, he loses his shit and all hell breaks loose. He founds a revolutionary group called The Longcoats, who want to take down The Civilized (yellow) and their ally The KSR (the green faction, military police, afaik). As soon as the lowerclass notice how they've been treated, they elect Hopper, a young woman who once even gave an arm just to feed others, as their commander and start to fight for their own rights.

S'pretty cool, I think. Lile Animal Farm crossed with A modest proposal. But then again, I love good pixel art.

A boardgame based on it is in the works by the people who made Burgle Bros.

>inb4 "you're a shill for liking something"
>inb4 "you're a furry for liking something with anthromorphized animals"

Okay, I wrote without having played it and I still will, but that's awesome.

>PS4
into the trash it goes. Might run a RPG stealing the setting though.

It's on Steam too, user.

Prequel series of pic related?
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Now just want to know what KSR stand for....

>furfag
>can't deal with a setting that isn't goodvsevil
>needs a self insert
please never comment on the quality of anything ever again.

>a young woman who once even gave an arm just to feed others
is that a snowpiercer reference?

Do you think the gameplay will not be simplistic as fuck in order to be playable on the controller-equivalent of a blind paraplegic?

>Being this basic
Please never comment on the quality of anything ever again.

It makes furries sustain your game.

I don't think it said anywhere in the game, that they run out of vegetables and such. They just call meat food of civilized.

>little furfag thinks everybody despising them is because they're niche and trendy
get mustard-gassed, son

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Simplifying RTS control without turning it into DOTA-shit is the point of this game. Check gameplay on YouTube and decide for yourself, if they managed to do it.
I, personally, think, that random maps spice things up, but I am sure true MLG cyber-sportsmen RTS mice fuckers would disagree.

I believe it's deliberately simplistic. The tagline is "Real Time Strategy Distilled". I suppose you can still dislike it for that though.

>induring someone inb4ing their own post
lurk moar before posting furfag
stop posting vidya here Veeky Forums is not the slow vidya board ffs

Sure. It would probably work ok using Ironclaw.

But more importantly, where's the porn?

You already know user.

A tragedy. But seriously, Ironclaw would work great for this.

keep in mind they can still grow crops, they just prefer eating each other.

>Literally a fleabitten gypsy
user...

What kind of campaign could you run? Mercenaries, third party or playing for one side in particular? Since eating meat is the core motivation for near all characters, what would the in-game benefit to procuring plenty of meat be? Would grams of meat take the role of experience or money, or both?

Sooooo the Skaven but Russian and every animal?

When will you faggots understand there's a whole field of spectrum out there and nobody has to commit to either realism or idealism. People can set out to create something that's intentionally improbably miserable just because it's fun.

>Tooth and Tail
So, literally Fairy Meat with Redwall aesthetics?

Homie, I love Skaven in their pure villainous glory. My only problem is that on the surface level, they all look cool and likable. I wanna like these people and learn more about them, then they start talking about their views on cannibalism and I'm headin out the door.

I mean, the game isn't realistic, and it doesn't try to be at all user is just using a buzzword. It's grimdark mixed with metal in a goofly Zootopia fan fiction, but it has fun with the concept.
Then agian I love not! Russia astetics so I'm probably biased

That's fuckin great.

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Responding to this here post

I literally just wrapped up the game moments ago, and it kind of blew my mind. I take back my comments about everyone being evil and an asshole. Reasons in spoilers below

Ok so the pigs were the evil masterminds of it all. Which is really unexpected and very cool. Knowing that they orchestrated the famine, everyone else seems like a lot less of a jackass, even The Civilized, who I was absolutely sure was totally evil. One fuck of a plot twist and actually redeemed the setting in my eyes. So, as weird and sudden as this is, I will declare, yeah. TnT is a pretty good setting. 10/10 would enjoy with Veeky Forums

They started the whole "it's civilized to eat meat" thing?

No, everyone else did that on their own. What they did do was create an artificial meat famine, causing all major players in the war too turn on each other, eating and murdering each other into extinction while the pigs gather power. The end mission has you swapping control over each faction every time you destroy a major structure, slowly whittling everyone down until only one faction remains, at which point hundreds of pigs begin up from the ground, swarming you until they overwhelm you.

based pigs

No way to kill all the pigs, eh?

Considering The entire battlefield is rendered barren and without resources, and the faction you'll end up with is absolutely trashed at that point, and the fact that the pigs come from every tile that's not occupied...yeah. No way. But now that I know that the pigs are the reason everythings shit I suddenly don't feel like the setting is so bad.

Oh well, I must tip my hat to the new porcine overlords for their ingenious plotting. Sneaky piggies are the best piggies. Well, that and RIP AND TEAR boars.

The common folk is the most retarded faction. Voting on who gets eaten is so easily corruptible. Lottery is the best option.

The whole point is that everyone's wrong and fucked up but can't see what's wrong with their world.

yeah but they seem especially retarded. The other factions aren't as shit because of their fundamental idea, while the common folk are.

That trend predates ASOIAF be a long shot.

What, did you expect fantastic leadership from someone who thinks mob rule is the answer too famine?

KSR or get the hell in the oven.

>What they did do was create an artificial meat famine
How did they do this?

They were the meat.

They went into hiding. No more easy pig meat.

They hid and since no one eats grain but them, no one noticed that the grain surplus was being used.

Pigs did literally nothing wrong though.
All they did was enable a bunch of bloodthirsty cannibals who had been oppressing and eating them for who the hell knows how long to kill each other off until they could hopefully retake the world for a peaceful future- at least for a bit.

What political faction did the Longcoats represent? They seem to have an industrial vibe but the Commonfolk are the red communists.

They were the merchantry.
>Clergy
>Military
>Merchantry
>Labor

Which, come to think of it, is a goddamn awesome idea for a setting.
>Destroy them all! Take back the rights denied to you and your families for these many eons! No longer shall you ever be prey to monsters.

Yes but they Killed my Rat Waifu, Quartermaster.

The point is that once war breaks out the atrocities snowball, so what was once a politically (if extreme) motivation to symbolically eat your neighbor you were at war with becomes generations of revenge and endless war. The whole thing is based on very obvious and very real principles about eye for an eye logic and all that, they just don't go into details about the variety of treaties that cause the conflict to begin with because that shit is boring.

It's exaggerated much in the way Animal Farm is, because it's almost a direct sequel to the book.

oy gavolt

The whole system is retarded.
But then again if every animal is sentient and some are carnivores, this is the result.

potentially, sure. as long as you play as pigs.

>not thinking the pigs would end up eating everyone else
Granted I haven't played the game yet, but pigs eat meat just as much as anything else, and if they were being oppressed, I imagine a bunch of them would be out for vengeance.

Except in the context of the game they didn't. They're the only species that (at least from what I've seen) eats only harvested grains, what the others consider food for beasts.
I suspect that they might return to the vicious cycle, but they're effectively the humans in a Darkstalkers anime situation.
Which reminds me that I need to run a Darkstalkers game one of these days.

>MOBAs and their 4-button system (plus directional buttons) is so complex wow it can't be played on console

The fact that there is no faction in the setting that is like "hey, let's maybe not eat other people?" is the issue here.

Ok, so we know very little about this world and setting, so it begs the question...
Should Veeky Forums just make it's own version?
People like Redwall, people like war, but TnT is pretty barren in the worldbuilding department. So should we make our own Mousey Revolution setting?

How would you feel if someone took away your right to eat any meat and just threw grain at you?

my meat doesn't come from people. The things we kill for meat aren't sapient.

name a MOBA that is on console

name a MOBA that is more popular on console than on PC

Its the equivalent of taking away all the food and handing you a lumpful of haitian dirt cakes or grass.

It just isn't food.

>SMITE

>SMITE

In a way, mouse guard started out kinda similar.
The writer made no illusions that mice and the hundreds of other species who only ate meat got along so the mice promptly started genocide every non-mouse who got too close, except for rabbits and hares.

So mouse guard with guns.

I know, user, it's just come back for a while because no one remembers how shitty it made 90s comic books.

>what are retards claiming their warped-ass view of real life is 'realistic' then toss in stupid author fiat bullshit then hide it behind an aura of realism when there are dragons running around and magic
>what are retards who actually believe this bullshit

Like, I've run into shitbags who've insisted 40K is a realistic reflection of humanity when it's an over-the-top parody of every sci-fi and fantasy ever.

That's what they want you think. The Bovine army and the Fowl republic would rise soon.

Looks like a retarded boring phone game. Easy money for whoever made this garbage because people will buy it for the "art style" and because it's got animal characters.

potentially, the little bits of settings information we get is interesting enough, though it would need to be fleshed out a bunch for anything usable.

>buy it for the "art style"
like how you hate if for the same reason? We aint even talking about the game anyway, so fuck off back to /v/

Mouseguard is an awesome setting. I am currently running a campaign using both the world and system. Though flawed I do enjoy the simplicity of it all, only needing d6s and all.

Nothing is more fun than using rain, mud and otherwise harmless animals as forces beyond the player's power to defeat. Though they still rarely run away from shit like foxes and eagles, leading to a serious death rate.

Neutral third party here, read all the spoliers. This setting sounds like utter horse crap. Nothing makes any sense, strains belief, derp-dark and heavy handed.

Jesus you sound as fun as a bag of rocks hitting a car window

>Nothing makes any sense
animals want to eat meat, animals would prefer meat comes from enemies rather than friends, war ensues. Not that hard to understand.

I will agree that there are some BIG blanks in regards to the setting though, like how it got to that point and why people are SO against eating grain, but utter horse shit? It's not that bad.

This, is like pigs are capitalists seeding and accelerating the collapse of the economic and social structures. And do so entirely in the open.

Honestly it would make more sense as a necromancy-style thing.
>Zombies need brains or flesh
>Vampires need blood
>Succubi need psychic energy
>Liches need souls
So, say, the number of humans begins to run out because the world is super grimdark and shit, so the remaining factions figure they can turn on each other for what they need. And the end of the campaign is humans rising up with light magic to obliterate the fiends in one final stand.

It is terrifying.

This is pretty fuckin metal.

>You will never develop a grim, bloody ratfolk setting based off of ceaseless consumption because Veeky Forums is afraid of enjoying anthro centric content.

Eh. I guess it works in a grimdark for the sake of grimdark fashion like 40k.

I thought about it. The setting does seem interesting.

I'm just a bit worried it may 'icky' some of the players. Ya know, practicing what would be 'technical' cannibalism.

That's factually untrue.

You can actually win, but it takes a lot of planning. If you kill every pig the credits just roll over however.

What would you call it if you ate a species that is sapient?

a dick move

>I'm just a bit worried it may 'icky' some of the players.
Well, vorefags will be into it.

Either heterophagy or xenophagy.

No, because it falls apart after ten seconds of logical scrutiny. It's a fine backdrop for an RTS, but a terrible one for a roleplaying game.