Heard you like characters

I might run my Praetorians as Mordians, seems simillar in doctrines. Though I hope there will be a transport-based regiment, since my guys are dragoons

So when marine players do it, it's fine but when a guard player finally gets some diversity everyone tells them they can only play them as cadians because that is only friggin plastic guard available!

Despite the fact that the Cadian-style flak jacket is the most common IG armor pattern and used by regiments across the galaxy.

You still don't get it. Taking cadian kits, painted like cadians, with no effort to make them not look like cadians, and claiming they are something other than cadians is dumb. But a simple bit swap, or even a unique paintjob can show effort, which is what is appreciated.

Doing it to just try out the new tactics in friendly games is fine, but where it's cheap is when you bring your cadians to a tournament and claiming they're mordians. I take the same issue if a guy brings his black templars (painting, chapter symbols and all) and opts to use the ultramarine chapter tactics.

Now if that guy had a uniquely color scheme on his homebrewmarines, and claims they are an ultramarines successor chapter, then that's cool.

Another example used in this thread is the crisis suits. If the guy made no clear effort to make the crisis team kit look different from the standard crisis suits, then it's dumb to run them as commanders. But if the guy did something like even just giving them bushi banners or some shit, then thats a different story. Would you be cool if a guy brought a space marine simple tac squad with no conversion work and claimed they are 10 captains?

I hope you guys get what we are talking about. It's about taking some pride in the hobby.

I'm honestly more annoyed that Russes get a price drop AND get to literally double their firepower..

>Would you be cool if a guy brought a space marine simple tac squad with no conversion work and claimed they are 10 captains?
... yeah? As long as the bases were marked so I could tell which was which, what's the problem?

No, it's being an ass. If you have a regiment painted up in a unique scheme why is it an issue if you swap tactics? Marine players do it all the time. Generic colour scheme and they claim each game it's something else.

I mean, you don't even need a custom scheme, I'm fine with people saying that Their Dudes are a specialized platoon of that regiment who specialize in [Insert Doctrine Ability Here].

As long as you decide on your subfaction while listbuilding and not in response to what I bring to the table, I'm fine.

>dragoons
I hope you use Rough Riders as well, user.

>I am bad the game so I throw a fit unless to make people using something I don't like spend a lot of money to use it.
People like you are the reason why I got out of the hobby.

Still completely missing the point. I don't know how i can explain it anymore without constantly repeating myself.

It's because you're a faggot who demands that people play the game in a certain way.

Still wrong, try again.

I'm wrong? Well, let's break this down.

>is user telling people that they have to play the game a certain way?
yes
>is user a faggot
also yes

Seems fairly clear cut to me.

>is user telling people that they have to play the game a certain way?
Still completely missing the point I have been making, so it's natural you can only come to false generalizations.
>is user a faggot
Not an argument.

What is your point beyond not wanting people to play with generic Cadian-model armies and claim the benefits of rules for non-Cadians, and equivalent setups, because you feel it's lazy? Because that seems like it's the point you're making, and also something that falls under the category of "demanding that people play the game in a certain way." I mean, the lazy-about-modeling way to play isn't especially meritorious, but it is a way.

My point was that people argue with you because you're telling people how to play. No one gives a shit about your other points, it's that one that annoys people.

Well not only that but other armies do this kind of shit all the time last I checked, he is just whining about IG specifically because he is a little bitch. Let's not forget how expensive it would be to buy two full IG armies just so one can look slightly different so you can play with a different subset of the same factions rules. That is just stupid, and honestly a waste of money.

My point is take some pride in the hobby. Doing all the things which rustle my jimmies are just lazy, cheap, and no respect for the hobby. I am not demanding anything. But if you are not going to respect the craft, I won't respect your army.

Wrong again.

I'm done guys, I am just repeating myself at this point and it's getting nowhere.

>I'll be disallowing any guard players wanting to use their cadians as 'counts as' anything but Cadians.
How about you take your foot out of your mouth then.

>Respect the craft!

It's overpriced plastic army men, get over yourself.

That's a different kettle of fish. List building in direct response to someone's list is a dick move.

Reminds me of going to a GW and asking for a game back in 5th. Ask him if he has a 1k list written up, yes he does he replies. Cool, I start setting up my tau and he starts pulling out his necrons and proceeds to stack his army with wraiths and scarab swarms and all of his fast moving close combat stuff. Err... Can I see your list? Oh, nah sorry it's all memorised.
Sure buddy, sure

Using your models as whatever regiment you want should be a non issue as long as you do it at home before your games.

They only dropped 10 points and they need the double shots to even be relevant honestly. It's not like anyone was taking Russes.

t. not even a Guard player.

Dunno if you have used Russes but they have absolutely no shooting output right now. They are tough and might be able to plink off a few wounds but they are severely underpowered. Firing twice might make them worthwhile

maybe my exterminator russ might finally not be completely outperformed by the predator tank

Lick my balls I have 50 metal mordian models and I'm gonna greenstuff to spam plasmas

>don't give a shit about the hobby
>have to buy a second army to play different regiment rules

How long have you been employed by GW?

Knowing my Exterminators are basically heavy 8 is nice. A real buff to the lesser used tanks this edition.

You know I was looking at the Mordian model and realised GW could release a kit with simple heads, arms with tassels and naked chest piece, as the cadian legs already work with their uniform.

Pic related, the officer in the lower left chest matches the design of the Mordian if you added it to regular Cadian legs. Essentially a Mordian is wearing the standard Imperial Guard fatigues without any flak armour - instead they use tassels and wear a cap.

Saying that, you could also just buy Victoria Miniatures Mordians: victoriaminiatures.com/collections/regiments-of-the-galaxys-finest/products/tannenburg-fusiliers-universal-10-man-squad

GW has been smart with their conversion sets, I bought a TON of those Genestealer Cult hybrid conversion sets to refit my old guard army. It is shame they're not doing this for the Imperial Guard with custom arms, heads, bodies etc.

I just want plastic Steel Legion because I don't want to spend a ton on Kriegers.

It's also a nice buff to the BC, since it'll almost never have to move.

Still lot sure how they plan to make the Nova worth it though.

Want to make proper mordians, but don't want old metal?

>heads
madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_21&products_id=148
>arms
madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_18&products_id=143
>torsos
madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_14&products_id=38
>arms
madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_10&products_id=29
>guns
just get lasguns from a bits site

It will be about $42 for 10 models. Which is much more expensive than a box of cadians or the metal ones, but the website has lot of other bits and even can do a cool looking lasgun. Besides I would rather work with resin over metal any day.

Not plastic, but resin. $40
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