Chainmail Bikini or Boobplate?

Chainmail Bikini or Boobplate?
Whats your opinion on these Veeky Forums?
Has your PC or a Party Member ever worn some?

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Absolutely fine in the right setting. I've played in settings with that particular sense of aesthetics and enjoyed it immensely.

It's all about the context, and it being applied evenly. If you're going silly fantasy armour, then I want to see bare chested dudes with huge armoured codpieces right alongside chainmail bikinis.

Naked or full armor.

Given I always run DarkSun-esque or conan games, it is a mandatory rule that all heroes are half naked or rip their shirts off before fighting.

Why?

>If you're going silly fantasy armour, then I want to see bare chested dudes with huge armoured codpieces right alongside chainmail bikinis.
Thats sounds actually quite hilarious.

I prefer scantly clad sorceresses.

Why not?

I don't mind characters who don't wear armor into situations they probably should because they're badass or whatever, but calling a metal bikini armor just feels dumb to me no matter what the context. Like just take some sort of unarmored specialty or something god damn.
The whole thing seems more like a vidya problem than a Veeky Forums one though in any case

It's all about the assumptions of the setting, IMO. Whether the setting places realism or authenticity above aesthetics.

You see this happen to lesser and greater degrees, from the various impractical or over designed flavours of heavy fantasy armour to JRPG combat outfits to the aforementioned chainmail bikinis, or the nearly nude characters in classic pulp fantasy stuff like barbarian stories or sword and planet fiction.

Having a preference and drawing the line somewhere is fine. Personally I'm okay with pretty much any of it, but it bugs me when a setting is inconsistent about it, applying completely different rules to different groups. This often lends to the only place where I hate chainmail bikinis or sexy fantasy armour, when it's right alongside dudes in much more reasonable looking armour without any reason for the disparity.

Depends on the setting and system.

>Has your Party Member ever worn some?
Yes, a chainmail bikini. She was a barbarian and it didn't count as an armor for her unarmored defense.

Player portraits are a personal preference anyway. You can easily make pic related your portrait to satisfy your need to play your waifu, but describe it in a way that's very G-rated and benign.

"She's an attractive young lady, and apparently a cleric of the god of Light that uses a staff topped by candles that for some reason don't go out in wind or rain; the boon of her god, you suppose. She would also seem to be a Tiefling; her red tail the only clue to her heritage. It clashes with her pure white robes; a sure mark of her faith.

Realism or not it just feels like making a bikini somehow count as protection for most of your body is the most convoluted way to tell your story, when instead you could just say "It's basically just clothing, but magic" or "they're just really tough". I never really considered characters in pulp fantasy art to really be benefiting from some sort of AC bonus when they're near naked

But it's whether that question has any relevance. For a lot of people, it simply isn't a concern so they don't worry about it. It's the way the universe works, they just roll with it and enjoy the artstyle rather than worrying over the why or how of it.

Art isn't the same thing as a game. Of course the art can have near naked people, but to take excessive steps to justify that with mechanics is just bad taste

But you're kind of missing the point. You don't have to justify it. A lot of people are entirely okay with just accepting it and moving on.

Not being okay with it is fine, but it's a matter of preference.

Impractical armor or no armor?

>Chainmail Bikini or Boobplate?
Boobplate
>Whats your opinion on these Veeky Forums?
I just don't bring it up unless it is relevant. If a party member decides to dress in scantily clothing I will either tell them "no you aren't" if they are wearing heavy armour in a realistic setting, or have people act appropriately around them, generally entailing treating them with less respect because they look like an exotic dancer with a sword. Boobplate is fine as long as it fits the rest of the definition of the armour, I can look past structural weaknesses in a boobplate since weaker locations can just be reinforced.
>Has your PC or a Party Member ever worn some?
Only female PCs I've ever had wore light armour like leather or something so it never came up.

Because I like my shirt.

Better armour or a caster

Caster is best armor.

chainmail boob

No armor.

I prefer women in more-or-less realistic gender-neutral armor. Bonus for short hair.

It's gaudy and tacky, the pornhub of fantasy sexualization. If you want to do a sexy chest plate, have the breast portion stick forward past the lower torso but do not cave it in the the clevage. Build an hourglass figure into the suit, wide at the chest, thinner at the waist, wide again at the hips.

Now, that's not to say that something gaudy can't be contextually appropriate within a roleplay setting. For example, you could have a powerfully enchanted bikini chest plate created by some deviant trickster wizard. The shivering isles expansion of oblivion had a good reason, the king of that world was insane and nigh omnipotent and liked tits and the safety of his guards was unimportant because they couldn't die for good and mostly just fought amongst themselves.

But if you just want to include titty armor because YOU like it, get some fucking taste, you plebian. Or nut up and just have the characters wear less clothes

That's gay

This picture, for example , is way more compelling than OPs

What a horrible live you live not being able to appreciate reverse traps.

Why not neither?

Look, I can deal with cheesecake, but why impractical armour? Just go for the impractical slutty.

Or do we REALLY have a chainmail fetish?

What said, more or less.

I don't dislike them, but I don't prefer them over everything else.

Depends on the setting. The image on the left will have a hard time fitting in a lot of places, especially as she seems to be a warrior and not some sort or mage or specialist wearing metal bits for effect (See: MtG and Chandra Nalaar's retarded getup). That said, if you're illustrating this character for some lighthearted, high fantastic sword and sorcery or anime action, style trumps substance every time, just go with it.

The image on the right is more generally appropriate, I feel it would fly (Possibly literally because rusty on my Fire Emblem or no I'm pretty sure that character would be a Pegasus Knight) at most gaming tables. It's still not "realistic" but frankly the fact that her chest piece has sculpted accommodation for her bust is the least of the getups problems on that score. If you're in a setting that allows female soldiers/adventurers and some of them wear plate armor, some of them are probably going to need plate armor with room in the front. There are other ways to do it than cups, but cups (especially modest ones as in your pic, rather than metal traffic cones) wouldn't be the dumbest thing folks have done with combat armor by a long shot, even comparing it just against real world examples.

>I want to see bare chested dudes

GAAAAAY

Yes, and?

oh, well carry on then, you fabulous faggot

This meme is pretty retarded, lorica musculata didn't have abs "on the inside".

A girl should be a priest of the party, having sex with you after treating your wounds, then, after she is pregnant, she lets you drink her boobmilk. Every other woman in party is useless, to be honest

Bare chested female warriors are in shortage.

People say they're not realistic, but when you have female warriors you've already thrown realism out the window so why does it matter?

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I want /pol/ to leave.

>implying he's wrong

He is and also stupid. Every time a /pol/ retard tries this shit he gets that shit shoved back up is butt.

>I want to see dudes in armor + clothing that exposes their body in a sexual way

You were pretty close

None trumps impractical. Up to a point, I'll happily take fantasy armor that is taking some small measure to look like armor. See my image, it is not practical and might not be possible to do this, but its a full suit and looks armor-y enough for me

No to both. Women should wear tighter male armor if they must wear armor.

You shouldn't even try to make female warriors or adventurers attractive, those are filthy lifestyles of sweat, injuries, poor hygiene, rape (if they are a woman), and disease.

You mean that every time someone points out something true, you start autistically screeching

>rape (if they are a woman)

>female
>in a full scale physical war against other stacked up men
>myriads of historical proofs of how little role of womens are in direct physical combat

DEPENDS
ON
THE
SETTING

>>if they are a woman

He's only half wrong at worst. While we have historic examples of females having lived lives in active combat roles, integrated period military is 100% Fantasy, especially given enlistment and success rates in modern integrated militaries which, while still physically demanding, have jeeps and submachine guns which are a lot easier on the upper body than carts/your damn back and pikes.

He's also wrong that there aren't degrees of fantasy and that female adventurers aren't one of the first things to get thrown in.

you are either a feminist or gamer girl.

>Equating the two

A fucking steel cuirass with two dents in the front still provides perfectly adequate protection for battlefield use. Chainmail bikinis don't.

Alternatively, I'm a bisexual guy who enjoys variety and consistency in his settings.

Get some real armour.

and dont forget women have PERIOD.

What do you think when the tank suddenly have a vagina cramp and got sick in the middle of battle?

a tramp can be more reliable than them in this regard.

Good point. Rape for everyone

If that is true prove it, oh wait you can't, you retards can never back up your shit.
I said they exist not that they are common you dumb faggot
The retard is saying they never existed which is wrong. They were not common yes but they existed. Also adventurers tend to be the oddballs of the world.

feminist then. dont play much game?

...Do you know any women?

You do realise that they cope with that all the time, right? That professional women in a huge variety of roles perform them perfectly competently despite it being their time of the month?

You are either a underage faggot, a retard, or both.

GOOSH GOOSH

I don't know, let me check my schedule... Legends of the Wulin on monday, D&D 4e followed by a different LotW game on tuesday, The Sprawl on wednesday, a LotW game I run followed by a 4e game on thursday, more D&D 4e on friday, another LotW game on saturday and my sunday slot is currently free, but I'm probably going to start running something else then soon.

Yeah, I don't play many games.

>Given I always run DarkSun-esque or conan games, it is a mandatory rule that all heroes are half naked or rip their shirts off before fighting.

>Why?

You always take your shirt off before you get in a fight.

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In today's age of painkillers and period side-effect dampening drugs

REEEEEE as much as you want, they "exist" notjing more than as "figure", mostly for appearance, or indirectly involved in front lines.

Quit replying to the troll, you stupid retard.

Chainmail bikinis would be perfect on cheerleaders for fantasy, war-class football teams.

So, you actually believe that throughout all of recorded history before that, a full half of the human race were rendered utterly incompetent for a few days every month, with nobody ever establishing any kind of coping mechanism?

Does that actually sound reasonable to you?

Dude, it's a game the title of which has "dragons" as on the words.

Get back to /pol/, don't come back.

The only REEEEEEing is from /pol/ retards like you.

yeaj i know women, no need to get period like that.

especially when there is no painkiller nearby in active duty.

REEEEEEEEEE

>mostly board games
>"i wish they made more sexy man in video game for a guy that like to suck dick like me"
yeah you do not play much game. typical feminist.

both, you retard

boobplates are enchanted, chainmails aren't

get mad as much as you want.
fact doesnt change because of your sensitive emotion says so.

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...What on that list is a board game? Do you just not know anything about RPGs?

yeah, history themselves wrote the establishing method that the half human race who got weaken for a few days every single month to stay out of the battlefield and leave it to personels who actually not suffering the same weakness.

Here I thought summer was over.

Hope it devolves into warrior women posting.

Virgin tasset vs chad codpiece.

yeah, keep living in fantasy land.

suit you best.

waaah

i can hear the reeeeee

enough to see you play only 4 games. for real?

Why would I be mad? You like all the retarded /pol/ faggots before you failed to show in long history of the world no woman was in some battle somewhere. And no I am not saying they were common like you go for to move the goalpost.

>Dude, it's a game the title of which has "dragons" as on the words.
Exactly. I don't know about the other guy but I have absolutely nothing against fantasy. I even said (in more minced words) there are different degrees, and that I for one think female adventurers being... as much the norm as any adventurer, let's be honest... is one of the first things you change when moving along the sliding scale from history as we know it to deeper and deeper levels of fantasy. Certainly, long before you add magic or dragons.

That doesn't change what's true to history as we know it any more than this asshole changes biology. And both are 95% or more irrelevant to gaming.

Cry more faggot.
Yeah, seeing you are the only one in your room

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"Women never fought in war"

"Well actually a couple times in the thousands of years of human history, in extreme or unique circumstances, women have fought in battle."

"So it still basically never happened?"

"STOP MOVING THE GOALPOST YOU FUCKING 12 YEAR OLD /POL/FAG LOSER VIRGIN IDIOT GO BACK TO SCHOOL SUMMER IS OVER"

if you actually made any inteliigent post about the existence of woman warrior and make supporting argument, instead of reverting back to the usual feminist on period when presented logic and facts from history you'd have more credit on your argument.

but no,its easier to say a devolved semblence of argument "sexist patriarch and other form of skreeee".

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So what about a cute girl who only wears trousers and some sandals and doesn't wear a shirt at all?

...Four games? I'm playing games in three different systems at the moment, and I'm playing a total of eight games per week. I'm not even how you came to that bizarre statistic.

I've also played a lot of different systems over the years. But D&D 4e and Legends of the Wulin are my two favourites, doing things I really enjoy and being flexible enough that they're used to run a lot of different games, hence me playing them so much. Liking things is pretty fun.

>reeeeeeeee

Can we proceed directly to posting cheesecake now?

What is that entirely reasonable female armor doing in this thread?

This talk of realism has gotten me thinking. Is this a good idea for rolling new characters in the games I DM?

Players will a roll a Challenging (20) CON check after rolling their characters. If they fail, their character dies before turning 1 years old and they have to roll a new one. They roll again at an Average (10) check to represent reaching 5 years of age, 10,15, etc, until they reach the age of their character as written in their sheet. For each roll they must take disadvantage if there was a famine during that time or a disease spreading, etc. They may not take advantage on their rolls until they reach 10 years old and only if there was a good harvest or small winter during those years of aging.

>3 different systems 8 different games per week
>not to mention the board games
yeah you either have tons of free time neet, or how do you even complete the game? skip every cutscenes?
especially rpg game where it is a time investing heavily type?

So you still have nothing to back up what is a huge claim. But seeing you asked for something you can say does not count here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women_in_early_modern_warfare

Turns out, when you work at a computer, having a chat client open and paying attention to it is easy! Who would have thought it?

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