/STG/ - Star Trek General

The Security staff are split into 2 main groups dubbed Day and Night shifts despite there being neither on the Sparrow and the captain discarding any notion of having the ship adhere to an artificial cycle.

Lt. Cho'ma is directly in charge of Day shift, that's why it's Day shift.

Night Shift is Mister Mac Oibicín. Captain Saharaf is a Vulcan that can pass for a human, Mister Mac Oibicín is a human that can pass for Vulcan. Born 42 years ago on Turkana IV, perennial shit stain of the galaxy that it is, he got off the planet at age 15 by lying about his age and effecting mannerisms of someone older and more polite than he was.

Kept up the act of a curiously genteel young man, despite working as a private security man, for so long it became no longer an act. Encountered Cho'ma back when she was an ensign stationed in the repair yards of Epsilon Eridani and since then the two of them have become inseparable.

He is her ever so polite right hand man of whom she has often had to turn a blind eye so as not to be forced to object to his methods. He is a man as bad as the law allows and maybe slightly worse, but also a very polite and professional one. He may break a mans fingers in a desk drawer if the situation warrants it but he will do so in the most polite way possible and will have the doctor see to them afterwards.

His hair is always neatly groomed, his pencil moustache trimmed with inhuman precision and his uniform immaculate. Like many men without many morals he does have very strict standards of behaviour he abides by and enforces at least in part to differentiate himself from the scum he knew in childhood.

His first name is legally Mister. Presumably this was not the name he was born with but who knows with Turkana IV.

the honest trailer for TNG was so fucking bad

My objection is that the rifle does not match the pistol. I think both are fine, but they really should match.

I haven't seen it, what's wrong with it?

I honestly don't understand why STD picked Klingons to be the foil for xenophobia and division and whatnot when these guys exist.

I mean they are a faction of massively xenophobic aliens who even build literal walls (or webs, whatever) in space, and fit the timeline well. And with new improved effects they could actually be made to look very impressive and imposing

I mean The new Klingon designs are 95/100 for an alien species ship and interiors design, but they don't really Klingons

Why even bother with Tholians when they could have set the show 20 years later and had the Romulans as the racial purist aggressors.

Because you are implying that people writing this show as vessel for their own political partisanship have bothered to read the extensive lore of the universe.

But that would have fit the protagonists weird history with Vulcan and that might have actually been interesting.

I just feel that something could really be done with Tholians. The idea of first contact or communication with species evolved for extreme enivromental conditions like that could be really interesting

Because then our MC couldn't be Surak's adopted daughter who can mind meld even though she is human, because she has a bit of his katra.

>Surak
Sarek. And mind melding with non-Vulcans has always been possible.

Honestly given how rapped up the Tholians have become with the idea of time-travel, I would rather they be saved for stories involving that.

Which reminds me, a major concern I have for Star Trek Discovery...I want SILLY episodes again!

I want "I, Mudd" or "Trials and Tribble-ations" or "Up the Long Ladder". Or "A Piece of the Action"! That last is my favorite TOS episode; even though I'll acknowledge that "Devil in the Dark" or "City on the Edge of Forever" are technically better episodes, "A Piece of the Action" is just pure gold for me. God damn do I love it.

I miss the silly.

>rapped up

*wrapped up. Mea culpa. Although now I want the Tholians to rap.

We're definitely getting a Mudd episode, if the trailers are to be believed.

>wanting Up the Long Ladder

Do you have brain damage?

Fun fact, in STO there is a repeatable duty officer mission where you can order crewmen to attempt to play Fizzbin.

No, I just love the Irish folk in it, being Irish myself. We are not a thin-skinned people and can laugh at ourselves.

(fun fact, the original script for the episode didn't call for the Luddites to be any particular ethnicity or nationality, but the producer for the episode, who was Irish, insisted that they be made Irish).

Best Fed hand weapon is what?!

I doubt it'll be fun or silly.

The Vulcan Q-tip of death.

It'd fit if you dial down the violence a tad.

...

In the preview for ep 3 Mudd literally goes
>Fuck you guys in your "starships"
>We are the 99%
>And we're mad as hell and we're not gonna take it any more!

What a waste of a show.

youtube.com/watch?v=niHg1Y_GRpE

>read the extensive lore

Or, since it's their fucking job, take a week and binge the original series. when something is your job MAKE IT YOUR FUCKING JOB AND ACT LIKE IT'S YOUR GOD DAMNED JOB!

Why do they always have a character say the exact number of people who died in a war? It sounds so dumb.

>Uniforms are only gold, silver, or blue
What the hell?

Welcome to the life of 90% of gamers who have played older games in a series and have had to witness a new developer take over and proceed to rape the lore with a sand paper strap-on.

Not the same. Hurts the same, but it's not the same.

The military does indeed keep an exact count of the number lost in the war.

Really now?
Ghouls from Fallout 1 are still sore about that one kid ghoul in Fallout 4.

Looks like it's more of what's been established, so no hope there of any improvement.

New episode of The Orville tomorrow though iirc.

But like that one prisoner goes
>8000 dead in the first week
>8,142.
It sounds not only smug, but also stupid. Are we expected to believe that the same character who mutinied against her captain feels so guilty that she remembers the names and postings of everyone who's died thus far?

We must go wider.

>Are we expected to believe that the same character who mutinied against her captain feels so guilty that she remembers the names and postings of everyone who's died thus far?
Yeah, we are. That's kinda the thing with Discovery: we're supposed to support the MC, despite her being a terrible character and person.

Hurts the same, but not the same issue.

>we're supposed to support the MC
This has yet to be established.

That's what they're going for, yeah. She feels bad about it. Of course it makes no fucking sense that any of it happened, but that's what they're going for.

It pretty much is though.

Especially when the earlier games were genuinely good in a near-timeless manner, and had established a lot of consistent internal rules for their setting.

Fallout is a great example, especially as it's not just that the big change game of Fallout 3 has really fallen in general estimations over time, but that it has that one game by the original people in the later game style for comparison between those that 'got' it and those that were just using the setting's skin without the heart.

No.

One is a TV show that required less effort and has some lazy people on it.

The other is a video game that on the one hand would have required more effort to keep everything straight but was bizarrely made by people who absolutely hated the property and were actively shitting on it.

Then agan it feels like the makers of Discovery are actively shitting on Star trek since they think megabitch michael is the first black character.

Given they very obviously and specifically kill off the guy who said they're explorers, not soldiers, I'm pretty sure they're not exactly favourable to the original works. It's a pretty blatant sign.

Plus yanno, that whole unending PR mess before the damn thing even aired.

Basically there's a lot of things that can be taken as at least a bunch of the important people behind Discovery either not caring or being deliberately spiteful.

>they think megabitch michael is the first black character
>still treating that horribly written article from The Independent like it means shit

Has anyone here gotten their hands on Star Trek Adventures? I love the 2d20 system used in Mutant Chronicles, so it seems like I should like STA.

Yes. What do you want to know?

I have a copy sitting on my desk, about a foot away from me. It's pretty legit.

Here user
ufile.io/l8565

I passed out like 25 copies of the PDF and played in two sessions. It's good but the majority of the book is babby's first star trek setting rundown, which takes 70+ pages. That said I had fun and we blew up a Miranda and we're working on blowing up a second one and the Sovereign as well, through judicious use of overloading phasers as antipersonnel grenades.

>Posting a link with the report for violation button right next to the pirate button
Yeah okay. Get your copy fast, user.

*shrug* I didn't design the site. It was the first option that didn't require an email.

Absolutely not. This is terrible. It's a science vessel with a crew in the 30-50 range, not a penal colony. To act like that he'd need to be THE Boss to get away with it. With every single officer out ranking him this guy only can only affect a small number of the crew, most of which directly report to people outside of his purview. He isn't even head of his own department.

He doesn't fit the vessel

Make him in charge of a science lab or something instead, where he's an absolute cunt to his like 2 staff but perfect to everyone else so they have a hard time trying to complain.

Is it mostly the same system? I like the narrative aspect of MC, so was hoping for something similar with STA.

I'll check the link out when I have access to my computer next. Charging my laptop right now.

How does it handle ship combat? MC was very brief about it as warships really aren't a big part of that setting.

Does it also handle each player being a different bridge crew member well?

>How does it handle ship combat?
Abstractly. We've made maybe two ship based non science rolls, I don't know if that's the system or the GM though.

>Does it also handle each player being a different bridge crew member well?
Probably, but since our group is basically Elite Force on an Akira, we don't have much to do with the bridge crew. We DO each have a specialty/department that comes up enough in play that everyone's included though.

Alright I apologize and admit it was a stupid idea. Looking back at it now it does seem pretty retarded.

How about Simon Tarses as a medical orderly?

Given the dubious nature of his dismissal from the Fleet and the staff shortage in the post-Dominion years he could maybe get a job.

Problem: it's star fleet, they can still complain and give a fuckton of evidence and shit will happen.

Wait he was actually dismissed from Starfleet? I don't remember that at all.

Lt.Cho'ma has a lot of downtime when the Romulans aren't around, thanks largely to the efforts of Counselor Shana. Who needs a cop at a 70 person family get together? Sometimes she gets bored and prowls around the Jeffries Tubes. The crew have become used to her head popping out from behind a bulkhead at unexpected moments. Typical reaction has shifted from screams of terror to headpats and ear scratches. Romulan boarding parties are not so lucky. It took engineering a week to clean the green blood out of the tubes on deck three.

He wasn't.

I just want more redheads like that. Hubba hubba.

>to headpats and ear scratches.
Stop being a furry.

Everything else was fine however

No it's all terrible. He has her prowling around like a pet. It's insulting.

This is the third time someone (same person?) thought that the Starfleet Academy trained & graduated (FROM EARTH) should act like a furfag's wet dream. Why would a professional officer, one promoted to HEAD of Security act like a domesticated pet instead of a sapien fucking being. Humans enjoy being petted too but you don't see anyone acting unprofessional to their Officer just because we like being stroked. Humans eat animals too, but you don't see us prowling around tunnels to eat rats. This bullshit is an insult to OUR intelligence. The blatant attempts to turn the sole Caitian into a furry wank session is fucking retarded.

>The blatant attempts to turn the sole Caitian into a furry wank session is fucking retarded.
This is why Caitians shouldn't be on any ship ever. Grumpy no-nonsense Admirals or nothing at all.

>budget, furry Space Suit Dave

This, frankly. If we can't have a believable Caitian, it's better to not have any.

I do want a Caitian because I think they're horribly underrepresented in Star Trek. But I would rather have none than some fuck you bullshit.

>Grumpy no-nonsense Admirals or nothing at all.
Grumpy no-nonsense Admiral Caitians are the best Caitians. Although M'ress turned out fine if you take TAS as-is. Y'know her just doing her role.

Perhaps the Caitian should be male? Or at least renamed since the name "Cho'ma" was introduced in a furry post too

I mean, you could make her a grumpy no-nonsense head of security? Married to her job, no interest in being anyone's furry waifu. If you ask if you can pet her, she'll punch you in the throat.

Or she has a husband and grown children. She has some handsome grey or maybe even silver streaks in her fur. Gruff when on duty, but loves music and dancing when off duty. Doesn't mind showing the young men how to dance, and more importantly, how to lead. But not interested in shipboard romantic entanglements. She loves her husband, and isn't attracted to hairless apes.

How about this:
Cho'ma missed most of the war. Catians are often used as ground combat specialists. War is treated almost like the Olympics on Cait. A true test of mettle and bravery. Of Course, nowadays they fight non-lethal wars on Cait. Everywhere else is fair game, though. As such, the Catians are nigh on the only Federation species with current/evolving ground combat strategies and their invaluable insight into planetary warfare was needed more than a few extra paws on the ground. (do Catians wear shoes? I legitimately don't know.) so Cho'ma had the unenviable task (by Catian standards) of running a boot camp for Starfleets sorry excuse for a Marine Corps. She whipped them into shape and sent them off to fight.
After the war she put in for whatever dangerous, thrilling assignment she could find.
Cho'ma isn't often needed. Instead she runs her teams through drills and raises general crew defensive efficiency.
When she is needed though, well, lets just say that she's very serious about her work... and her kill count.

>If you ask if you can pet her
The fact that this is even a part of your post is the problem.

She's a Starfleet Senior Officer. No one would even think to ask. She wouldn't have even been asked at the academy. In fact her entire species would only very rarely get asked that by perverts

Again, why on Earth would a Caitian get treated differently from other members of the Federation?

Complete fanfiction

I wasn't suggesting she should. Just suggesting some different backstory that's not furrybait.

Most of that is non-canon to Cait.

Also she's the Cheif of Security. Not the Tactical Officer

as opposed to not fanfiction? Well let me just ring up my buddy, Johnny the Frakes-train and see if can rustle us up a canon Catian for our fan setting.

Is this spoilers for STD? Because none of the canon Caitian sources even imply any of this

I think you might be mixing up Caitians with the Kzinti, there lad.

there really is very little on the Caitians as a species, though.
>Are Cat People
>Really caring and Loyal
>Cats
that's about it.

We have M'ress. Whose the complete opposite of all of that.

Actually are you thinking of the Kzinti? They're the antagonistic cat people

What about writing a character without factoring in her species and then just adding "oh and also she's Caitian" instead of trying to build her around the fact that she's Caitian?

>as opposed to not fanfiction?
Yes? There's no point in wildly making your own steal donut and calling it Caitian in a crude attempt to add legitimacy

Why not just have a Kzinti aboard? It's not like this isn't already weird fanfiction, adding a furry crossover can't make it THAT much worse.

>(do Catians wear shoes? I legitimately don't know.)

>Some Caitians did not find it necessary to use footwear. (Star Trek: The Animated Series)
It seems to be optional

>furry
No. Keep it in your pants

So, how's DIS so far?

If it's better than the shitshow that was season one of TNG, I'm happy.

Can you watch it with the free trial of the CBS streaming service?

Is Ships Psychic a possible actual job?

They usually lump it onto one of the command staff as their thing but here the nearest there is to a psychic is a very old Vulcan.

The job should not necessarily come with being one of the bridge crew. Just needs to be an additional job of one of the lower ranks.

There could be a language specialist whose job is definitely not deciphering the nuances that the Universal Translator often overlooks in overheard transmissions. She also happens to be a Betazoid.

The fact that this had to be stated shows how far the furfags have dragged anything based on animals if even STAR TREK can't be exempt from it.

This is exactly what should have been done in the first place

No.

Because it's just a quirk some species have. It's not something sought after or factored into anything

Would they be likely to give a dude with Romulan heritage an assignment on a ship with the primary mission of spying on Romulans? Like I know ex-admiral crazypants was trying to burn at the stake for a relatively harmless lie. But Starfleet still probably doesn't want Tarses near sensitive operations ever again.

I want the furfags to leave

Half the time its a liability more than anything

As entertainment it's fine action in the vein of the BSG reboot but not episodic.

As an actual "experience" it ranges from painful to plain. The cinematography is god awful and I'm not being melodramatic about the painful part. Seriously I didn't get a flash warning for that first episode and WHY THE FUCK DID THEY THINK THE WEAPONIZED LENS FLARE SHOULD GO ON THAT LONG? Everything is dark with lots of flashing, the camera is never centred so enjoy Battlefield Earth tier camera work. AND LOTS OF JUMP CUTS.

As Star Trek it's all over the fucking place. Throws plenty of established canon out the window and makes you question several things.