How do you put a fresh spin on succubi?

An alternate idea is that succubi are classic style, but they still transform into the victim's fetishes and obsessions. (in dreams or not)

Which is why demons don't really apply for the job: everytime you transform into a mortal fantasy you're one step closer to lose yourself into that, if you're not careful.

>I think this might be magical realm-ish but fuck, they're succubi, people would think that anyway

Would you marry a woman that looks like that, Veeky Forums?

Succubi are cruel, faceless things made of bone and silvered glass. They look human because that is what they reflect; a human form. An ideal. A perfect figure born from a hundred different desires. The illusion is delicate. Fragile. The slightest touch will shatter it, and the razor shards will whip and whirl around their victim until nothing is left but a fine red mist.

No, she has a bad case of butterface.
That is unless she actually has a good personality. Though I'd definitely get her something else to wear that isn't an eye-bleeding ugly yellow top

The 70s?

Nah I've seen her tits they are gross as fuck. Any girl with tits like that is going to be the same. Even if they are natural (Hitomi Tanaka) they will be a mess after she passes her early 30s.

I'm the oldest oldfag; wanna fight about it?

Marry? I don't know. Marrying is more than fucking with the same person for the rest of your life, is about a relationship and shit. So, I dunno, I would have to hang around with her before deciding if I would marry her.

If she's kind of fun and stuff, yeah, I would marry her. She may look gross some time later, but laughing together in our later years is more important than massaging the same implants for N time.

Also, there's always doggie style.

Fucking her, on the other hand,
fuck yes

As massive ugly slug-for-a-butt foul-mouthed vomiting monsters of immense size and strength.

They're hideous, diseased fucking demons, like a humanoid vulture with mange. There is nothing attractive about them, they are exquisitely repulsive. Their "seduction" is entirely mechanical, like intercepting the strings of a marionette. They delight in the mental revulsion of their prey as their bodies refuse to cooperate and engage in sordid acts with walking sacks of disease and pus.

Alternatively date rape. You don't even remember being seduced. You wake up in a back alley covered in cuts, puncture wounds, and abused genitals. The challenge is in making it home while physically and spiritually exsanguinated.

>What do make fresh spin on X

I'm definitely getting "My version is different" fatigue. What do you consider the Typical Succubus? How does that vary from the earliest core concept? Why does this need to change? I only really see a use for it if you've visited everything in the beastiary of whatever system multiple times and really need to do something new. Otherwise, I dunno. Sex demon might be fine.

>Alternatively date rape. You don't even remember being seduced. You wake up in a back alley covered in cuts, puncture wounds, and abused genitals. The challenge is in making it home while physically and spiritually exsanguinated.

Like this spin.

I always enjoyed the idea of a succubus that will tempt you into doing something terrible for the sake of their perversions (kinda like seasoning them with salt made of sins).

Are you gonna beat up a random villager hitting on her because you want to 'defend her honour' (show yourself off)? That's a double helping of Lust and Pride right there, friendo.

Makes for fun awkwardness once the party finds out why they've been a sleazy asshole since arriving in town.

Seduction doesn't have to be sexual in nature.

>I've seen her tits
everyone's seen her tits. PBD's porn vids aren't exactly difficult to find.

Yeah, and? Did you just want to feel included in my statement or something?

I like this idea. It'd be great for a DMPC.

It's implied sex user.

>In my setting...

>Succubi are flying horses with bright and colourful manes, a special sign that identify them as part of the succubi race and are always predicating about friendship and tolerance.
>And dragons are small, covered in yellow and white fur, can't breath fire, but they are the most loyal creatures to ever step on this earth.
>Oh, and angels are eldritch abominations, like wheels covered in eyes and flam... what do you mean they were like that originally in the Bible? Fuck that, then, angels are slimy creatures with 8 tentacles that fart each vowel when talking to each other.

Seriously, guys. I know is good to be creative and put a spin now and then by adding or removing details. However, many people in the name of originality (more like, special snowflake) simple miss the point about the original concept and try to come with something that basically is something entirely new and unrelated, except the name.

If you don't want a sex demon on your game, then why do you want to have succubi on them? Is like wanting to include vampires that shine when exposed to the sun.

Ah, I guarantee you're that faggot who gets really angry when people post thicc elves.

Because if we do create entirely new creatures, people like you bitch about having to memorize new shit and how it doesn't conform to "muh standard fantasy". Besides, we're giving OP exactly what he asked for, so fuck off and go be grumpy somewhere else, you unpleasable fuckwit.

Certainly, I wouldn't object to more thicc elves images

>If you don't want a sex demon on your game, then why do you want to have succubi on them?

>simple miss the point about the original concept

Succubi, in their earliest incarnation, were neither about sex nor were demons. They actually were developed from Babylonian Myths concerning female wind spirits, and their roles in regards to night emissions merged with other ideas, developing and redeveloping into a fairly wide and diverse collection of mythological entities that were later named "succubi" while being further redeveloped. The "original" concept isn't as exciting or interesting as many of the later re-imaginings, and it's kind of silly to be upset about people not sticking with the original concept when you yourself don't feel that need.

If she was a stereotypical housewife I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'd love taking her out on nice dates and get all sorts of dirty looks.

I feel like you're just typing words at random

What he said makes perfect sense. Do you not know what a "housewife" is?

Actually, it was closer to the lamia myth, the girl who looked like missed or injured on the desert and would devour anyone who would get closer. The only way to be safe would be calling her, as they couldn't reply because they couldn't speak. It was a moral warning about not being caught by the looks, particularly on young beautiful girls.

This was combined with Greek myths about supernatural beings who would visit people at night and feed on their breath (you know, because energy life and shit) to birth the "modern" idea about the succubi, and also give an easy exit for monks and wet dreams.

Which is kind of funny when you read the original texts and realise being visited by a succubi was everything, but fun or pleasurable. The incubus were too thick for the girls (yes, there's such thing as too much), and the succubus were too cold and dry.

protector knights of humanity who have a fierce need for seed

Being in love with JAV actress is suffering.

user, you're just horny and lonely

By giving them something to do when they're not pomfing. Like counqering kingdoms with violent demon magic rather than just sleeping their way to the top.
Unless you're into lewd things like handholding and fully consentual intercourse

God fucking dammit I want to have sex with Anri Okita so fucking badly. I don't even care that she's taken 100 dicks already, I need those tits all over my dick.

Make them Hispanic

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What do you suggest for an foot-in-mouth sperg like me, doc? I can pass for a fit, well adjusted individual, until I open my mouth.

>succubi with those ridiculously tight chola jeans

>How do you put a fresh spin on succubi?

Read Succubus Blues by Richelle Mead.

You will not be disappointed..

She's ripped but feminine, and hunts and crushes her prey with her bulky bod

Not like that.

>Urban fantasy
>Vampires are introduced within the first chapter, or so.

I challenge you to go to Veeky Forums and suggest people to read this book. I double challenge you.

i dunno get a job at a call center, you are reading off a script half the time, but itll help you get used to/practice small talk

Play it straight to the myth of weird ugly fucks who rape you in your sleep and use the semen they gather from that act to impregnate your neighbor's wife through more sleep rape.

A dick-ass wizard has modified and selectively bred them over the centuries to be cripplingly socially awkward and extremely non-assertive because he thought it would be funny. He also removed the part where they kill their lovers to keep paladins from interfering with his plan.

It's a common sight in any major city to see a succubus looking at her shoes and mumbling while holding a bad of gold towards a gigolo while onlookers stare.

>common sight
>people staring
That's not how that works. 2/10 apply yourself.

It is rather well established lore that Yoko Ono was banshee.

Idols and celebrities in general. Instead of collecting lust of individuals personally, they live off lust and adoration of masses - it gives much weaker sustenance, but multiplied times thousand, or even times million they are doing just fine. This was impossible in ye olde times where you could only captivate people as far as eye can see, but with rise of mass-media becomes perfectly viable.

Incubi had the roots of this strategy couple centuries earlier - trying to rile up masses through literature. Oscar Wilde and Marquis de Sade could be considered the pioneers.

What didn't you understood about this phrase, user? It's pretty straightforward.

Make 'em Blowubi.

It's silly. Why would people stare at something that's a common sight? Are you just pretending to be retarded? Because I have bad news for you: when you pretend to be retarded, you're still a retard.

I shamelessly stole from DMC4 and made them extradimensional anglerfish. The qt14 girl is the lure and when the poor horny bastard touches her, he gets pulled into hell and eaten by the eldritch horror.

Interrupting here, but car accidents are a common sight and people still hold up the road to rubberneck.

That's fascinating. I'd heard it originated as an explanation for beer goggles.

Japan just does porn better than anyone else, I don't even care that their men are disgusting or their genitals censored. The women they use in porn aren't plastic sluts whose only good quality is being willing to take it up the ass, JAV actresses are all-round incredibly hot. How does Japan do it? Or rather, how do Japan and Western Europe not do it?

That pic should be considered a warcrime.

user, stop being a retarded mouthbreathing motherfucker for one second and reread that sentence.

You first you fucking mong.

They aren't that common unless you live in a place where drivers are retarded and wreck regularly. If that is the case, you have my condolences.

>After a veritable succubus epidemic that has resulted in the untimely death of many young men, the not!Catholic Church has decided to strictly enforce sexual modesty
>Various local lords cooperate with the efforts of the church, and even go as far as making adultery punishable by death and strictly enforcing standards for decent clothing
>Succubi stick out like a sore thumb now and are executed/banished en masse
>The few succubi who survive this purging have to entirely change their game plan
>They must adapt to changing societal standards, moving away from revealing clothing and choosing to wear more modest, feminine garb
>To avoid drawing attention, they change their strategy from arousing and enticing men to tearing at their heartstrings by acting playful yet pure
>Marriage is now part of their strategy as well, due to the risk adultery carries
>A man who dies shortly after his marriage is suspicious as well, so succubi now drain sexual energy a little at a time
>The victim of a succubus now lives an average of 60 years until he's entirely exhausted of his life force
>The locals know this, but think it's worth the effort now that succubi make better wives than human women
>The church knows this, but they hope a loving marriage will have a purifying effect on them. They can always smite 'em later if it doesn't work out.

>You are a good-aligned god
>After your clergy has been decimated by a bunch of succubi you are losing power rapidly
>before you fade from existence you can focus your power for one last curse
>it can affect the entire succubus race, but to spread it so wide it can't be that powerful
>instead death is not an option
>however, since succubi rely on seduction to work their evil a small "prank" level curse might be enough to gimp them
what is your curse Veeky Forums? that will be OP's new twist on succubi

Succubi are evil incarnate. Their sole purpose is to make more evil in the world. They aren't just "avatars of female sexuality" or whatever. They're a malevolent force. Don't just make them about sex, make them about generating lust to the point where it's ruining lives in the mortal realm. Have them spread evil and misery wherever they are, but keep them likeable and charismatic to the party. Succubi should always be charismatic and loved by everyone. They never reveal their true nature. Manipulation is top priority. Lie, cheat, coerce, extort, feign innocence, project blame, guilt trip, confuse, and shame people. Nothing is beneath a literal demon from the Abyss.

A succubus who seduces a hero is good. A better succubi will manipulate people into having affairs to ruin their marriages, or manipulate connections and use her influence to start wars between kingdoms. If she ever interacts with the party get creative with your lies. If they find out who she is have her fake trying to reform if you think the party will buy it. If you play your cards right you can use the party as a vehicle for spreading her evil while they protect her from "people who just don't understand".

Succubi are actually heaven's time travelling angelic assassins, killing world ending threats by making sure they were never born.

To hide the fact that they are removing people's free will, they act with plausible deniability and act devilish. They fail to kill people but just fuck the evil out of them.

>Don't just make them about sex, make them about generating lust to the point where it's ruining lives in the mortal realm
Oh geez
>The succubus appears to be a lovely, beautiful and motherly middle-aged woman
>She volunteers to cook for the adventurer's guild, supposedly because she "enjoys it"
>All the adventurers love her almost as much as they love her food
>In reality she purposely makes fatty, greasy and painfully sweet meals and snacks and uses way more salt than can be considered healthy
>She'll make the adventurers give in not to sexual lust, but to their lust for food
>Artery diseases will stop most of the high level ones before they can even reach the Dark Lord
>Nobody will suspect the kind and charming old spinster
>She goes by the name of "Auntie McDonald"

Tits are a common sight.

This just makes me think how confusing it would be in a world where both demons of manifest deception and spite and mere spirit avatars of female sexuality both demonstrably exist and people other than priests, shamans, and wizards can't necessarily distinguish them. But I think I've always been more interested in settings with more variety and fewer clear lines in their spirit world.

They have souls and can have attachments to the people they seduce, but always wind up hurting their victims in the end anyway.

This thread again?

Gotta have something to take the place of quests.

>quests.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>You go north
>you are eaten by a pepe

>long toenails
I didn't realize how unappealing this was.

>Succubi that drain their prey are the really bad ones. Not as in evil, but as in incompetent.
>They good ones know that a human isn't a finite pool of sexual energy, but a generator
>The good ones infiltrate society and groom prey
>Help them feel confident and sexy
>Every prey needs different bait
>The energy can be consumed in a plethora of ways, sex is just the simplest one.
>The NEET that have gotten out of his shell, spent time and effort on self betterment in personality, fashion and social skills is like a volcano of sexual energy
>Being on a date with him where he flaunts himself successfully could fuel a succubi for a year.

>until I open my mouth.
How about you just don't do that then

just give em firearms

As much as I love the traditional succubus you can fuck, I really, really like this idea.

They are actually hideous bat shaped monsters that use illusions to get men to drop their pants and then suck the blood out of their dicks which are full of blood once erect.

I would love to write that comic if I could do ero. Any horror/ecchi artists should consider this.

Stop using them

This fucker knows what's good

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part 2

Play them straight. No succubus waifus, no redeemed succubi, no brilliant scheming succubi who topple kingdoms. They're just literal sexual predators.

At this juncture, it'll be the most novel approach you'll ever take.

>Japan just does porn better than anyone else
WEEABOO

Oh no, not the dick-sucking bat monsters!
Sequel never.

That's kinda hot.

By blatantly copying this.

They're agents of chaos after all.

When people say "original concept", they actually mean the most widely recognized version currently
Both standard elves and dwarves of modern fantasy have little to nothing to do with their original inspirations in mythology
It's funny how autistic people get about it when those particular versions were popularized kinda recently
Just because a few big influences on modern fantasy reinforced a certain image, it's become like law that that's what they're supposed to be

Well shit, now I have to fug the succubus

I think it's kinda hot

Isn't the common perception that it was an explanation for sleep paralysis?

It explained sleep paralysis, wet dreams, squid smells in the monk's quarters, and why Sally the baker's daughter had a kid who looks exactly like her sister's husband. Any inconsistencies between stories are easily explained with "demons, dude, who the fuck even knows".

>brunch so hard
What does that even mean?

As many have pointed here, the succubi are a blend of different myths from earlier cultures. Many happen to share the idea that something weird happened during sleep (sleep paralysis, wet dreams, etc), so they meld them together and gave birth to the "modern" concept of succubus, just like vampires.

However, the idea of the succubus have caught partly because the original reason for the myth persists (weird biological phenomena while sleeping), and because the succubus works as an allegory about thinking with your lower head rather than the one with brains, a warning that never gets old. While some may claim the concept have nothing to do with the original myth (hornet manlets sitting on the chest), the truth is concepts evolve over time and some just click and align with popular archetypes, so they stick and become the norm.

And while isn't that bad to keep evolving (the vampire went from the old horrible corpse from nosferatu, to the suave Dracula and then the ambiguous Lestat), there's always a point when breaking for the sake of breaking with old conceptions is stupid.

Just go to Thailand and get a couple of hookers. Just google pattaya walking street, phuket walking street, soi cowboy etc etc.