What do you think about Mage Guild threads being moved to /qst/ by our mod even though they don't have anything to do with what the sticky on /qst/ says that board is for? What other types of Veeky Forums threads that our mod dislikes are you expecting to be banned from this board in the coming weeks?
How do you feel about /qst/ being used as "the board for Veeky Forums things that our mod doesn't like"?
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Wait when did age Guild threads get moved?
I think Veeky Forums is less fun without them. For me, the most memorable threads on this board were those mage guild type threads.
Any action which causes creative types to feel unwelcome on this board only serves to make this board worse
In the old days we could just email moot and have him take care of the problem, but these days Hiro only cares about making money and leaves the actual overseeing of Veeky Forums to the mods.
>Wait when did age Guild threads get moved?
They started getting moved a couple weeks ago. The OPs started adding "THIS IS NOT A QUEST THREAD" to their posts but it didn't matter.
Here's the most recent one.
>I think Veeky Forums is less fun without them. For me, the most memorable threads on this board were those mage guild type threads.
Yeah, I had a lot of fun with both those and the Fighter's Guild threads.
Its been happening to any of the Guild threads, the Penal Legion threads, and the Galactic Federation threads. Even with the threads putting the board ruling that allows them to be on Veeky Forums in the first post, ti doesn't matter.
And yet, jump chain is still here.
Jump chain is neither a quest nor a freeform guild meeting thing.
It certainly is closer to a quest than most threads. That goes for the CYOA general as well.
Well then we should allow everything and rely on our own ability to self moderate to keep off topic threads under control....
>Well then we should allow everything and rely on our own ability to self moderate to keep off topic threads under control....
pretty sure this is a fallacy. I'm just not sure which one.
stop generals pls we look like g
Was this thread rightfully deleted for being off-topic? Discuss.
>What do you think about Mage Guild threads being moved to /qst/
I think that you need to get back to your ghetto, questshit
>Well then we should allow everything and rely on our own ability to self moderate to keep off topic threads under control....
I know you're being sarcastic, but Veeky Forums really was at its best in 2007-2009 when we didn't have a board-specific mod and the only threads that got deleted were the ones that broke global rules. There were a lot of shitty bait threads, but the lack of oversight also led to a lot of amazing content being produced that wouldn't be allowed to take root these days. Heavy-handed moderation has driven away a lot of creative types.
Having a mod who identifies as "Veeky Forums" is bad because his opinions about what is or isn't Veeky Forums-related generally won't match with the opinions of the majority of the board. It would be better for the moderation to have no connection to this board, so they wouldn't constantly rely on personal preference when deciding which threads to delete or allow.
Its a strawman. Hes saying the argument is for no moderation of threads, when the actual statement was that it's bad to drive away creative people
Truth.
I do miss guild threads. They were really fun, and much more interesting than the million 40k STAT ME or WHICH CHAOS GOD threads.
This image is no longer considered on-topic for some reason.
So what about the mod's abuse of power? I've called someone edgy for laughing a women who was raped and tortured to death, and my comment gets deleted. Someone gives sources to artwork, and their comment gets deleted. I tell antifa and neo-nazis faggots to fuck off, and I get banned. The faggots though, still keep on posting. He's protecting his friends or himself.
>Veeky Forums: the board substantially about roleplaying, but god forbid you ever roleplay in them
Actually it is a slippery slope, but the "Deleting retarded off topic bullshit drives away our creatives" argument is trotted out every time a mod gets sick of some form of off topic bullshit and bans it. See when ERP general and /wst/ were shit canned.
It mostly was me being sarcastic about the quality of Veeky Forums when left to its own devices. A large portion seems to think the board is at its best when there's furfaggotry and porn everywhere.
The Mage's Guild and their ilk were just wankery. Nothing of value was lost with them going to /qst/.
I can't see modern Veeky Forums being able to do that. It takes the bait too easily and is nowhere near capable to turn shit to gold like all the creativity-fags wants us to believe. Dump shitposting threads don't fall of the board, they get too much traction. On the other hand people try to force Veeky Forums to be creative because there was this mystical age where OC grew on OCs and plenty of were had, because they read too much 1d4chan and think that this is how this board was before the dark age.
>I do miss guild threads. They were really fun, and much more interesting than the million 40k STAT ME or WHICH CHAOS GOD threads.
They're not "gone", silly! They're just on a different board that you have no interest in browsing, so you'll never see them again unless you're willing to devote more time to constantly checking another board that's 99% unrelated to your interests. When they shrivel and die, it won't be because of lack of exposure due to being moved off of their home board; it will be because they're shitty and nobody likes them!
>On the other hand people try to force Veeky Forums to be creative because there was this mystical age where OC grew on OCs and plenty of were had, because they read too much 1d4chan and think that this is how this board was before the dark age.
I've been on Veeky Forums since 2007 and used to make a lot of homebrew that got a lot of positive replies, but after the third or fourth time that my thread was deleted or I caught a three-day unappealable ban for "off-topic" homebrewing, I stopped trying to make anything new for this board. Now I mostly hang out on another board and make OC there. As someone who's been here since day 1, I can say with certainty that this board was definitely a lot more creative before Nazimod v1 got in.
Precisely. The mythical age never existed. You only think it did because you only ever see the best of the old stuff, from 1d4 and the archives.
Shit posts were around then too, we just didn't save them.
Anyways, creativity still happens around here: W3, anyone? I wish we had more storytimes, tho. Always missed those.
Frankly I think it's good that the mods can recognize attempts to exploit the intent of a rule and punish that appropriately.
Those threads didn't belong, and now they're gone and the board is better for it.
>Yeah, I had a lot of fun with both those and the Fighter's Guild threads
You can continue to have that fun on the proper board, the threads aren't gone for good.
You know, we got a world-building general? We got Song of Swords and game design general, right? Don't know why your threads got deleted, sometimes a mod is just silly, but there is still enough room on Veeky Forums for you to be creative.
>Dump shitposting threads don't fall of the board, they get too much traction.
That's because the only interactive threads on the board nowadays are bait threads. Veeky Forums has a lot of browsers with lots of free time, but people keep replying to bait threads because they're the closest thing we have to entertainment on the board now that most of the genuine interactive content has been banned.
Guild threads were better when loose and unanticipated. The systematizers ruined it.
>Someone gives sources to artwork, and their comment gets deleted.
The board has reverse image search.
Spoonfeeding is bad and encourages derailment of threads with source requests that belong on /r/.
The problem is the guild threads don't belong on /qst/.
A board ABOUT roleplaying is for discussions, not running games. This is surely self evident.
>Dump shitposting threads don't fall of the board, they get too much traction
Because everything else is only general upon boring general
>They're just on a different board that you have no interest in browsing, so you'll never see them again unless you're willing to devote more time to constantly checking another board that's 99% unrelated to your interests
I don't know, if what you came here for was forum RP, a whole board of forum RP should be 100% relevant to your interests?
See We can thank quests for that. Years later their legacy lingers on.
It has nothing in common with quests.
>The board has reverse image search.
You know google filters your search results based on your bubble, right? Just because you can see the sauce, doesn't mean someone else can.
>Spoonfeeding is bad and encourages derailment of threads with source requests that belong on /r/.
/r/ is literally named "Adult Requests". It's just for porn.
When people eat, they often speak of eating.
A certain degree of latitude is expected when it comes to lateral developments of a secondary nature.
You forgot to mention the first half of 2010, which was so bad that Nazimod was brought in to crack down on the overflowing amount of garbage.
Some people like to wax nostalgic about those days, acting as though the monstergirl and furry spam enabled a great deal of creativity and allowed original content to thrive. From my perspective, it was anything but. A fifth of the board was low quality quests, another fifth was Jessica Elwood worship, another fifth was roll-for-your-monstergirl-waifu, another fifth was roll-for-your-furry-waifu and the last fifth was actual Veeky Forums discussion and content.
And quests are for single person led things. As written on the Quest header
"This board is for author-driven collaborative storytelling (i.e., "Quests"). In a quest there is a single author who controls the plot of the story and who drives the creative process. They can choose to take suggestions from other posters, or not, at their sole discretion. Quests can be text-based, image-based, or a combination of the two. Drawfaggotry is strongly encouraged!"
"Single Author" The guild threads are the opposite of this
yeah, you'd think that.
Most sauce requests are about porn and you have more than just google to search.
>As someone who's been here since day 1, I can say with certainty that this board was definitely a lot more creative before Nazimod v1 got in.
While it's very sad your oh so good OCs got you banned, perhaps the first incidence should have been a sign they weren't welcome here? Sites like deviantart might be more appropriate.
Normal people, not deluded habitual rulebreakers, see tough and objective moderation as a good thing for the health of the board.
"Nazimod" was an asset to the board culture because it was a time when the rules were enforced.
Can someone please explain what weird grandfather clause lets the Towergirls threads stick around because while I've never really had a problem with them they stick out as a bizzaire outlier in the crackdown on "off topic" content
I do not like mods treating /qst/ as Veeky Forums dumping ground, either delete the thread, change /qst/ to /rp/ or don't move them.
probably because the mod likes them.
Man, that paragraph is retarded. The entire point of a quest is that the non-qm players are directly controlling the pov character. Without player input, it's just writefaggotry.
Freeform forum RP was never appropriate and I'm very glad it's gone. To be honest I hope the write and draw threads get removed too, they encourage a toxic attitude and would be more appropriate on /ic/ or /lit./
CYOAs and Towergirls next. Then finally we'll have the Veeky Forums we always wanted: elfthreads, /pol/, and poorly disguise fapbait 'character portrait' threads as far as the eye can see.
That's your argument against me. Spoonfeeding is bad. Nothing about abuse of power, nothing about the mod being big man on campus and letting his shitstain friends derail threads. No, it's about spoonfeeding. You're probably the same faggot I called edgy for laughing at Regina Walters picture before she died.
Steer clear lads
>While it's very sad your oh so good OCs got you banned, perhaps the first incidence should have been a sign they weren't welcome here?
In the first incidence, I was banned and unbanned three times over the course of 30 minutes as a pair of mods fought over whether or not my OC was allowed on Veeky Forums. Eventually the one who unbanned me won, but it set a very unpleasant precedent that was repeated in the future.
>Man, that paragraph is retarded. The entire point of a quest is that the non-qm players are directly controlling the pov character. Without player input, it's just writefaggotry.
You shouldn't be surprised that the mod who made /qst/ has no idea what quest threads are about. Remember the thread where he introduced /qst/?
When Hiroyuki said he wanted a thread to talk about the board, what he actually meant was he wanted a thread to discuss how cute Ribbon is.
Nice false dichotomoy, these can go for all I care as well.
>Spoonfeeding is bad. Nothing about abuse of power, nothing about the mod being big man on campus and letting his shitstain friends derail threads.
Yes, because you complained that you were punished for responding to a source request. I explained why doing that is the appropriate response.
>You're probably the same faggot I called edgy for laughing at Regina Walters picture before she died.
I am not, but frankly your feelings being hurt doesn't give you.the right to be the humour police. Perhaps that flies in your liberal arts college safe space, in which case stay there, thanks.
Enjoy a board of generals and shitposting then. No creative content if you make it clear that anyone who can make stuff cannot contribute new content to the board. Or are you forgetting that Veeky Forums used to be the board that made shit? DVV was a fully functional system, made from scratch thanks to a bunch of people who wanted to playtest, draw and write. And when did they stop posting threads on Veeky Forums and exclusively post on their own forum? Shortly after qst was made.
ribbon is maximum cute, what is there to discuss?
Your waifu is going to be banned, just like everything else. Only less the mod likes Ribbon, then she'll stay. You'll still be banned though.
Speaking about something positive, there seems to be a janitor/mod lurking the jump chain thread banning or deleting some shitposts, so nice job
All Guardsman shit should be moved to Veeky Forums. It hasn't been about an actual game for months. Instead it's been pandering fanfiction that has no place on this board.
>Enjoy a board of generals and shitposting then.
Good, now I only need to filter half the board instead of 90% of it if they brought quests back.
>Or are you forgetting that Veeky Forums used to be the board that made shit?
We are still doing shit, you just refuse to see it.
Given the low quality of most OC here (especially DVV, which was edgy Kingdom Hearts fanfic), nothing of value is at risk of being lost.
Name one ongoing project other than Song of Swords that has regular quests?
Considering this is an metathread concerning /qst/ shouldn't it be there instead of Veeky Forums?
fuck meant threads my fingers have muscle memory.
My feelings are not hurt. I'm infuriated that the mod is abusing his power, deleting things he does not like. I said "wew, edgy lad" to him and my comment was deleted. That's abuse of power. I do like how you throw shade at me, saying that I'm from a liberal arts college and I need my safe space.
Remember when quest threads got banned from Veeky Forums and the anti-questfags swore that nothing else was going to be banned and everyone was worrying about nothing?
Yeah.
Cestree is cuter though.
I'm writtting a gurps addon.
Idk
Almost like the real problem was one or two super vocal anti-quest faggots instead of quests themselves!
The entirety of /gdg/. There's at least a dozen ongoing game-making projects.
Nobledark, writefag threads.
It's a meta-thread about something Veeky Forums related being moved to a board it belongs on less.
Nah quests are an online-only thing.
Veeky Forums is about games that have a irl component.
Quests are more of a forum game thing and really deserved their own board.
You. Not Veeky Forums.
/gdg/ is the same principle. Its people making games getting advice.
True. I'd forgotten Nobledark. But a few moments ago, someone was saying these threads should be gone from Veeky Forums on the same principle.
I don't understand why people feel they shouldn't have to click an extra link to switch from TABLE TOP GAMING, to ONLINE ROLE-PLAYING. The waifu wanking is bad enough.
WHY do the roleplay threads need to be mixed with the game threads? Is it too much to ask for some semblance of organization so that people with like-minded interests can find each other easily without having to read through NON-CANNON things?
The moderator posted this.
>Meta thread is nothing but the quest dilemma again
>Nostalgiafags whinnying about the state of Veeky Forums while doing nothing
>Faggots want to ban everything that they don't like
>Other fags want to have Veeky Forums become /d/ lite again
>muh /pol/ ruined this board!
>using /qst/ to move everything you don't like
>wanting quests can come back instead of allowing it in all boards so Veeky Forums isn't filledl with them
I guess we don't really need a meta thread then.
Keep sucking mod dick faggots.
Personally the only think non tg content quest shpuld be banned. Ie anime ones, video game ones, erp, etc. Ones using warhamner, 40k, starwars,trek, dnd, and some collective games should have been allowed to run on week ends, some of the sci fi quest became barren when they got booted, namely house and dominion. Should atleast let them keep up 1 qst recruit thread here, because not everyone who wants to play a tabletop esque game can actually be at a table, and sometimes randos are hilarious fun.
I miss moot and old tg, I miss the days where salty modick suckers didnt have so much sway.
People play Everyone is John in real life. There is nothing inherent in quests that require them to be online only.
Three step plan
1) cut down on the bad threads, we don't need an elf thread every day.
2) forum roleplaying should be on quest, it probably should be renamed
3) if you can play it without access to Veeky Forums it should stay.
I.e. Quests require other people on a board to do
Cyoas are self contained, if you have the image you can play it by yourself.
However the cyoas should be more Veeky Forums related, but they basically are solo-rpgs and should be treated as such.
>>wanting quests can come back instead of allowing it in all boards so Veeky Forums isn't filledl with them
Oh christ, please off yourself. We do not need roleplaying faggots on every board. We already have avatar-fags and tripfags.
Put CYOA, Towergirls, "Let's Make A Setting," "Make a Space Marine Chapter" and similar threads in /qst/ as well.
This board is for discussion only, not for actually engaging in any of these games.
Everyone is john is definitely Veeky Forums related as you can play it irl.
Quests are basically online-built.
>WHY do the roleplay threads need to be mixed with the game threads? Is it too much to ask for some semblance of organization so that people with like-minded interests can find each other easily without having to read through NON-CANNON things?
Oh, so you're one of those people who only wants hard mechanical discussions.
Well guess what? Most of /the/ is unrelated to each other. Most of us don't play every kind of game discussed here, and absolutely no one plays every individual game. Banning everything that's non-canon is literally the slippery slope.
The mod has his followers and when they cry, he deletes, bans, or moves.
>1) cut down on the bad threads, we don't need an elf thread every day.
As an elf-fag, I agree with this. Most of them are just an excuse for shitposting.
Everyone is John is literally a quest. Literally. If you played it online, it would only differentiate from average quests because the players are antagonizing each other directly.
Same.
You can play anything online(see Roll20) but quests are literally built to be played online.
Veeky Forums has never had a culture of abhorring ""spoonfeeding"", we have always delivered when people come to us in need. We're not /a/.
I hope you choke on a dick and die a painful death.
Nope. The only difference between how you play a quest and how you play an RPG is the number of player characters.
Voting can be done offline, dicerolls and conflict resolution mechanics can be done offline, one guy narrating the setting and the results of what a character does can be done offline.
I really agree with you
I've image-searched multiple images and haven't found a source. Then some wonderful user gives me the source and let's me enjoy a great piece of media.
If you just stop helping people it makes the board worse.
>Mage Guild
How are these any, and I mean ANY different from quests?
Hi nazimod
Quests have a QM, a directed story and setting. Mage Guild et al are open, there is no direction or setting beyond what was established in the last thread.