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When i first saw the art of her just standing still with literally zero indications that shes a necromancer or mage or whatever i was disappointed. I was fucking horrified when i saw her crouching with still nothing to indicate shes a necromancer. The model actually looks like shes hiding from the zombies.

Awesome, thank you.

If I pick up the Nicodem crew pack I feel like I need to purchase a whole bunch of other Resser units to get his full potential, right?

He seems like a fucking blast to play though. What's Veeky Forums's record in summoned units for one game?

Lady Justice, Sonnia, Perdita, Raspy, Levi and the Dreamer got pretty sweet avatars in terms of model quality. Though seriously what the fuck how are you supposed to dell the difference between lillith and zoraida's avatar (neither even feels very connected to the master) and Viktoria's avatar whilst kind of cool in concept fails in model quality. Nico's again cool in concept fails in quality.

I think I would have been find with her just standing there.
Her crouching down is weird.

I think I summoned a total of 47 points the last time I played Nico (4 punk zombies, two necro-punks and a hanged). The Vics put them down about as fast as I could summon them.

I like Simulacrum #29.

I feel Avatar Lilith makes plenty sense; she's all about life, growth, and nature.

Sure but you can make do with a lesser amount, its probably even better for practicing him. In general you just need one model for each role and soulstone cost. Punk Zombies are 7 cost damage dealers so there's a good start!
2 Mindless Zombie - Not strictly here for normal purposes, but they exist!
3 Nico doesn't recognize this number
4 Canine Remains, Scheme Runner/Corpse maker
5 Rotten Belle - Control
6 Dead Doxy - Crew Movement Shenanigans
7 Punk Zombie - Beater
8 Kentauroi - Not out yet, but movement control, corpse generation, damage, THE WORKS!
9 Hanged, spooky ranged anti healing tech
10 Carrion Emissary - Popular choice with Nico, not that you can summon it!
Alternate choices include Necropunks and Crooligans for schemers, Shikome as beaters and Flesh Constructs as tanky as fuck.
Seamus' Box + Dead Doxies and a Nico Box gets you a great Seamus crew and a great Nico Crew, throw in some canine remains and then work towards some of the higher cost models and/or mindless zombies. McMourning's box comes with a flesh construct and a Canine Remains, so that can be good if you don't want many canine remains or even if you want tons.

I like Zorida's the youthful version instead of an old hag is cool.

I think she's supposed to be summoning hands from the ground with her right hand while directing zombies/hands with her left.
I actually like that she's not skulznbonez or robes and staff or the classical necromancer aesthetic, and from what little I know of her backstory it is a far more appropriate model than Morticia Addams up there.
For cohesive crew aesthetics though, Morticia's maybe a bit better.

>I feel Avatar Lilith makes plenty sense;
Sense as a concept, yes. I just think the model is pretty poorly executed, especially compared to today's sculpts. Admittedly, that's not the company's fault, they did what they could with what they had, and even just a resculpt of the same pose/concept would look good, but at the moment I think it's ugly.

I'll concede the point on #29 though, he is actually a bretty gud model.

You just listed all the avatars I think look stupid.
Some of the sculpts are reasonably good as technical executions of the piece, but the concept/plan was bad from the start.
Dreamer in particular just looks stupid as a model, Lady J's sculpt probably should've stayed as art because I don't think it works as a model, and Dita's ridiculous mount is ugly.

>zoraida's avatar (neither even feels very connected to the master)
Zoraida's literally the pagan archetype of femininity in the Crone form. She just reverts to the Maiden phase in her avatar form.

I wanna make an alt Emissary because the official model is trash and pisses me off because it's so close to being very good, but the only avatar I own is Colette and the very thought of putting them onto one 50mm base hurts me ._.

So how worthwhile is it for Hoffman to make the Pale Rider a cyborg? It would let him get nimble, and a zero action to bank a ram so he can Last Crossing earlier or something.

Try it out and report back.

The picture you posted isn't the Dreamer Avatar though. That's a conversion or something.

That's not a pagan thing thats a wiccan thing isn't it? The trinity thing of maiden mother crone?
The fact its a young Zoraida is not communicated at all though. She isn't using any of her voodoo shit.
It does when its explained, but it could just as easily be Zoraida's avatar. It has no real connection to lillith aesthetically. Lillith isn't just a tree hugger, hell that's not even a particularly big part of her character. If she had her living sword in her avatar form or terror tots were bursting from the ground maybe.

>thats a wiccan thing
Who do you think they stole it from?

> Lillith isn't just a tree hugger, hell that's not even a particularly big part of her character.

Using plants in some way is a MAJOR part of her character though. Hell the majority of her actions and abilities have something to do with plants or terrain.

I'm waiting for a recasted Watcher from Kingdom Death for my Arcane Emissary.
Looks just like the cute little Effigy but all growed up.

Still looks like crap though.

> She isn't using any of her voodoo shit.

There are literally voodoo dolls as part of the model, she's summoning a swamp golem from the back, and there's a crow perched on the tree shes standing next to. Anyone that knows anything about the game should have no trouble telling that that's Zoraida's avatar.

I've just seen on the awful place that Ressur McMourning can now take Oxfordian Mages and give them Debt to the Guild for a turn of free Furious Casting at Ca6 3/4/5.
I can't decide if that's worth leaning into to maximise built-in Tomes, or if only getting one makes sense since they are expensive and flimsy outside of Arcanists.

Kind of expensive for one. 7ss for a turn of good shooting.

Yu does what Shenlong does and the Emissary does that as well. You're filled to the brim with redundancy at that point where you could be turning Yu into an Izamu/two units/etc. And the Emissary beats out Yu because the Emissary+a Low River Monk equals three cards drawn a turn and an extra activation for 3 SS more. Three big support pieces, especially if two of those are 10-11 SS and the other a master is just too much to put in one list. There are much better and more needed things you can include. And if you go Emissary+Yu+retarded poison combo you're down 34 SS and not a beater in sight to actually profit from the minusses. 38 SS if you don't want to miss out on 3 cards a turn.

Lilith's is also decent, and is fitting in theme to the emmissary model.

Directed at It's not that Yu is bad with Shenlong, he's just completely outclassed by the Emissary+LRM and takes up space from someone who could be actively benefiting from all the buffs handed out, rather than being the 25 SS of your list working on handing out buffs.

Like I said here ; I think the concept is good, the execution is poor.
With today's sculpting/casting proficiency and technology it could look nice, as the official Neverborn emissary does, but as it is it doesn't.

That's exactly my plan. Watcher's such a cool model.

Thanks for the perspective. I may just go with Shenlong+Emissary+LRM, and use the extra rocks for Yasunori. The extra pushes are probably redundant especially if you keep wandering river on Shenlong long enough.

A nice basic list for Shenlong is
Shenlong
>Wandering[2SS]
Monk [2SS]
Summoned Monk[0SS]
Shadow Emissary[10SS]
>Dawn Conflux[0SS]
LRM[4SS]
For 18 SS. Then, if the board allows for it
Katanaka Sniper[7SS]
For a 25 SS core with 6 activations.

And then you can mix and match the other half as you please.
3x8 SS enforcery types plus a 1SS and two 0SS upgrades.
10+8+5ish SS unit + upgrades
12+5+5ish
etc, etc

Kang's great for Ressers and Armor, LS is obviously nice, especially with a 9 card hand. Graves if you feel you somehow need more pushes, Bettari against Gremlins, Izamu for some sturdiness, Yasunori for death from above, Toshiro if you get some Illuminated, Gwyneth+2 Illuminated, another Sniper... Whatever you want, though I'd try to get 3+ units out of it. Though Izamu+Yasunori sounds fairly disgusting, come to think of it. And you're still at 8 at that point.

Peasants[2SS]**

Thanks for the advice user. Bringing along a couple of Illuminated sounds like a good deal. What makes Bettari good against Gremlins again?

She blocks enemy Df and Wp triggers in a 6" aura, so no squeeling 4 u hehe

But yeah, initially seeing it as overkill an 8 activation list with Yasunori AND Izamu is definitely something I'll be trying out some more. Give them Smoke Grenades/RT/Equality and maybe use that last SS for Death Trigger on them so they'll always keep access to the Emissary's pushes...

As a Colette player I can vouch for Bettari being a bitch.

>No dumb luck
>No squeels
That does seem super annoying

It's one of the relatively few KD models that works outside that gonzoe heavy metal porno fantasy world, unfortunately.
I had a good hunt through the line, but for the most part it's either perfectly generic or batshit insane.

>Kang's great for... Armor
Kang's great for Constructs, but I think he's mainly a counterpick for Ressurs and Arcanists - Undead and Constructs.
If you meant Hard Worker giving other Foundry models (0) Precise, then I think that only really makes sense in a Mei Foundry crew, rather than a general pick.

>Bettari for Gremlins
I'd stick Arcanists in there as well, as many Henchmen and Enforcers, as well as a good handful of lower-station models, lean on Df triggers for durability.

IKTF

Where are you getting the recast? They seem to be rare on ebay from what I've seen, and KDM minis are fairly pricey

Not him, but Aliexpress has served me well when it comes to recasts for Kingdom Death. I would buy the actual models even if they weren't always out of stock.

eBay.
Czech dude selling Watchers for five euro.
I was pretty happy.
Of course, it's yet to arrive, so at this point it may in fact be imaginary, but it's not late yet either.

Ah, yeah, I saw those. I was instantly suspicious. Let us know when if it arrives!

Which would be a better hire for Guild McMorning. A saber tooth cerberus, or a rogue necromancy?

wanted to edit their PDF of Through the Breach 2.0 ....

Anyone able to assist?

I think I'd go rouge. Abuela can obey it for more shooting. Domederes can also obey it.

Also it works in Ressers if you want that too.

Looking at the card, the necromancy it's pretty much better in all the ways, except Cerberus has leap.

I think it'd basically bout fun to wether you think you're you need the mobility or not.

With the errata and the 0 upgrade, is Montressor any good right now?

But I want my builds and tactics handed to me!

Alright, I haven't played in a long while and decided to restart with Ophelia and her kin. I know Somer is fantastic and found my unassembled Wong box, but is there anything of worth in the Bushwackers?

Trixibelle is it, although Mah did get upgraded to playable status with the latest book

Hard Worker works for all Foundry models in LoS, and you're always in LoS with yourself.

Cool, and a quick question about Trixibelle, if she takes her (0) action do the scheme markers become the Gremlin players, or is that whole thing just to fuck around with your opponents potential schemes?

So, I'm thinking about trying to branch off from Ulix, the only Master I ever played. I was thinking about Wong, something like:

Wong
-Ooo Glowy 1
-Three demon bag 2
Burt Jebsen 7
Swine-cursed 7

And either a second Swine-Cursed and Dirty Cheater on Burt, or a Lighting Bug and the Lovely Assistant. I usually play against Tara, Freikorps, Rasputina and seemingly every Neverbon master ever released. Guild (mainly Perdita) is a bit rarer here, but extremely common a short distance away. How fucked am I?

no, it belongs to whoever dropped it, she just drags it around.

Don't play Wong into Freikorps. Your entire thing is blasting shit and it won't work against them.

Three Demon Bag lets you remove it, and the magical brigade gives zero fucks about their armor though. Who would be a better Master against them?

Yeah, but you are wasting AP and soul stones working around a problem that you could've avoided by not forcing that matchup.

This is how you Wong
>Take Gremlin Luck. the + for all non-damage/duel flips means that lightning jump is very reliable, and his personal flips like healing or soul stone damage preventions work very nicely.
>Get Sammy Lacroix to carry the Ooo Glowy upgrade. If sammy dies, you don't lose the benefit of the upgrade so go to town.
>Pick Ooo Glowy target.

If you want to fight freikorps, just take Zipp or Somer. Somer can pepper shots and just top deck after emptying the opponent's hand or Zipp can just run circles around them.

I'm thinking of actually (finally) doing a WiP logfor it, because I'm going to try a bunch of shit I have never done before, like a wee bit of OSL and actual proper layering.
So I'll do that when if it arrives.
I think for five bucks it's not a huge loss if he fucks off with my coffee money.

Cerberus is for rushengagement with a lot of killling power.
You can get one up the field really fast if you need to, especially with Dougies pushes.

I know, but it seems expensive to take him up to 10ss and needing to discard to use that (0) seems a bit too corner case unless you're pretty certain you're up against H2W or Armour.

>This is how you Wong
>Spend 9ss taking Sammy, who will eat the stones for two other models while achieving relatively little.
You don't need Gremlin Luck.

Just a heads up but Gremlin's luck is only to flips during his activation.
So damage prevention and healing flips generally won't get a positive.

I do the same setup and it works most of the time. If there are a number of schemes that require scheme markers in the pool Sammy turning them into pigs can be disgusting.
Her cast being able to turn off triggers can also be amazing.

You should look at taking old cranky over the Lovely Assistant. I love wong and other thank Freikorps you should be good!

Wong newbie from before () here. So, I guess I could keep using piggies against Freikorps. Against those others guys, how fucked I am? What would you guys suggest goes well with Wong? I figured that Magical Glowy Burt and one/two Swine-Cursed might go well, with their ignoring a fair bit of wound preventing rules. Burt being both able to cast Crackerjack Timing (should work well with Wong) and Sic the Piggified SwineCursed might do the trick. What I'm scared of is the low number of activations in that 25 stones list.

Crackerjack Timing is less useful against the Freikorps because they'll be ignoring all your explosions - Wong, Pigs etc.
Focus the defence-ignoring tech like Glowy and Swine-Cursed.

Wong shouldn't be a bad pick into anything else. Once you get start to get the lightning jump bs off it can get disgusting really fast.
Burt is a decent glowy target but I haven't found crackerjack timing to be as amazing as it seems on paper.
I really really like Mancha Roja as a glowy target. He just walks up removes whatever gets in his way.
I've never taken swine-cursed because I don't own them, but they seem great on paper.
You should get Merris though. Letting your friendlies ignore pulses and blast damage can help mitigate wong hurting your own dudes. And she is busted.
Turn one I like to have cranky drop a marker near wong and then have wong pick it up with his (0). Wong generally completes claim jump every turn.

Hired Guns Crew box
Hannah
Lazarus
Freikorps Strongarm

Is that enough or should I pick up something else? That should cover most if not all Freikorps units right?

Also what's the verdict on Freikorpsmann, a friend of mine claim they're more or less useless but looking at their stats they're surprisingly good for such a cheap minion.

I played my first game with Titania with Pact With the Grave and man is she a ton of fun with that upgrade.

Good with Schill, not so much outside the Freikorps crew.

I think they are one of a few models in the game that suffer from being so much better with the appropriate Master that they are sort of bad without them.

What about the Specialist? It feels like a good unit to have especially when the enemy groups up and to use in conjunction with locking down units and then burning all that shit, while all Freikorps units being immune to pulses and shit.

I have a friend who really likes them in Vik's. He tend to run the build a bit not supportyy though with I pay better and howling wolf tattoo

Is Lucky Emissary worth buying? Which masters will it benefit more?

You've forgot Anna Lovelace. Usefull model, when it comes down to dealing with masters like Lilith and Shenlong. Also has some great Ca actions.

I would if I could. I don't know sit about PDFs.

>Jam with immune Korpsmen, toast with Specialist
Huh, never thought of that.
Give it a go.

I'm the user who originally posted that.
I bought it and tried to edit, but removing the watermark has proved difficult.

It looks fun with Somer and Zipp. I don't know if it's good though, I haven't tried it.

Short story idea:
> Male masseur who went to Malifaux to make an easy living among the filthy rich.
> Has to travel with one client to some backwater town, because the client is running the business there
> Carriage gets obducted by the LaCroix gremlins
> Ophelia is being stressed out, especially after the whol gremling governour debakle.
> Masseur is getting wind of it, asks if he could help her relax in exchange for his freedom.
> After some back and forth, she agrees.
> He works his magic fingers and actually gets her to relax some, which she did not expect.
> Ophelia gets worked up in other ways.
> So does he.
> Lewds happen.

Gremlin luck is fantastic.

Also Sammy is good for both his jinx and putrify

Depends. It's pretty good with mah tucket. Nice if somer is doing the usual summon+bigger hat lists.

It's definitely mid tier model.

As much as i hate gremlins, that does sound like a fun story.
Do it user

Would running these guys. Izamu and Lone Swordsman in a single crew be viable? I'm not very familiar with 10T rules yet and asking mostly because I'd like to try painting a crew based on Oda Nobunaga and his vassals etc. using as many samurai miniatures as possible

Well you'd need a master or henchman to lead that obviously

who won broken promises?

Ressers

Definitely neverborn. Titania became t1, Lilith got strong other options, dreamer got strong options, Zoraida got bumped up a tier.

Those are all decent models on the table, so that would all be good. TT masters aren't too picky about what models you run them with. That set up would be decent with McCabe, Shenlong, or anyone who isn't Mei Feng for that matter.

how did titania get tier 1 all of the sudden? What models should I look for and is it with the connection to GG2018?

Major power boost due to her new upgrade options.

I really like those models, but I picked up the two standing ones second-hand, pre-constructed and undercoated black.
Fucking pain in the dickhole to paint now, so may overhangs and shit.

Which are the best upgrades to take on them, if you only take one or two?

Not taking damage from the gun misfiring seems pretty good.

Royal Indignation and Pact with the Grave Spirit are bonkers good upgrades, and the Primal Conflux fixes all of the Emissaries main issues(needing suits to do anything on an enforcer), while also giving it a nice support option for your Fae. gg18 is still a non-factor because it isn't done yet.

Good models for her outside her box are the Cyclops, Hannah, Barbaros&Tannen(if you have one you should really have the other), The Emissary, Nekima, Mature Nephilim, McTavish and Wisps.

Favor of Jigoku and Favor of Earth are the ones that people generally go for. Once you get those then you can park a pair somewhere and start shooting without too much to worry about.

Makes sense.
>Favour of Heaven
>+2 Wk +1 Cg
Redundat in a faction full of pushes, and the Samurai is a little flimsy to intentionally send in as a melee beater?

It seems to offer a bit less than Jigouko and Earth.

With the Samurai's +++flips to attack, I flip 4 cards, my opponent flips defence.

Do I pick 1 of those 4 before or after my opponent decides whether or not to cheat?

Before, because the loser must cheat first and you can't determine a winner before settling on a card

Yep. You pick the card of you choice before cheating happens.

What do you guys think of these fixed lists?

Alpha Striking:
(1) Marcus - 4ss Cache
+The Trail of the Gods - 1ss
+Feral Instincts - 1ss
+The Hunger Cry - 1ss
(2) Myranda - 8ss
+Imbued Energies - 1ss
(3) Jackalope - 2ss
(4) Moleman - 4ss
(5) Moleman - 4ss
(6) Rogue Necromancy - 10ss
+Pack Leader - 1ss
(7) Sabertooth Cerberus - 9ss
+Imbued Energies - 1ss
(8) Angelica - 6ss
+Practiced Production - 1ss

Scheming:
(1) Marcus - 4ss Cache
+The Trail of the Gods - 1ss
+Feral Instincts - 1ss
+The Hunger Cry - 1ss
(2) Myranda - 8ss
+Imbued Energies - 1ss
(3) Jackalope - 2ss
(4) Guild Hound - 3ss
(5) Guild Hound - 3ss
(6) Guild Hound - 3ss
(7) Guild Hound - 3ss
(8) Mech Rider - 12ss
(9) Grootslang - 6ss
(10) Grootslang - 6ss

Cheers boys.
I thought as much, too much a lazy piece of shit to check.

Makes the (R) Walking Fire trigger a bit harder to get off, unless there's an easy way to hand out Rams in 10T?

Also, when do you bring Fuhatso rather than a Samurai, outside of the Mei(me) lists?

When do you bring Samurai at all?

I picked them up because they look cool and they were cheap, but I have no idea how to use them.