Why are orkz so rarely fallen to Chaos? I know they have their own gods...

Why are orkz so rarely fallen to Chaos? I know they have their own gods, but Chaos Orkz never seem to come up despite Khorne clearly being an option.

Orks have a natural tendency to follow the strongest

Because it just dilutes the factions.
Orks are already ugly monsters, they don't need Chaos for that, at the same time an ugly monster becoming an uglier monster is not as poignant as a man becoming a monster.

Orks cannot comprehend the idea of Chaos, and they have no real "soul" to sell, so they very rarely knowingly fall to any Chaos god (though corruption can happen, it's usually because of direct contact with the Warp).

Also, other Orks view Chaos Orks as "unorky," and ostracize them if not outright kill them for being different.

Orks have a soul, it's just that, like the beastmen in fantasy, their souls are already bound to gork and mork.

Ork religion and lifestyle already give and support what 99.9% of Orkz crave. So Chaos doesn't have much to really tempt them with.

I'm pretty sure orks already have their own chaos gods that they follow and stuff

Gork and Mork don't share da Orks with those other gitz, ya grot!

This. Chaos preys on dissatisfaction, and the society that springs up around an Ork infestation is their hardwired paradise. Any ennui that might let Chaos in is muckin' about, and no Ork wants to get caught doing that

The chief exceptions are Stormboyz, who start thinking about the 'hows' and 'whys' of warfare. That's enough to give Khorne a footfold. Old editions have Khornate Stormboyz marching around waving bannerz.

They're not really fallen though. Just a bit odd.

As your pic shows, it happens sometimes through direct warp contact or possession. Passive corruption is a lot harder because orks just don't have the degenerate culture for Chaos to really seep into.

They don't have much culture at all, really.

>chaos recognises its poetic function and allows orks to exist unmolested
grimdark indeed

The Farsight novel goes into this somewhat.
Basically Orks have shitty souls, though not as shitty as Tau, and because of this daemons don't pay them much mind.

It's got electrolytes.

Spore culture they have in spades though!

Because orkz sole drive is to be as orky as possible and in comparison chaos is not even a millionth as orky as GORK and MORK and other non chaos things, andpp heck a lot of orks consider humans more orky than chaos

Well imperials/non chaos humans

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If all they want is to fight, then why join Chaos when they could fight it?

Yeah the poor mutant orks are so disconnected from ork society, they actually feel relief and joy when a rather unscrupulous warboss decides to let them join the fight for once. They wonder why everyone treats them differently and why they're not allowed to get stuck in like normal. And if they try to communicate these feelings (in the only way orks know how), their former mates all gang up on them and kill em. It's rather heartbreaking actually.

If it makes you feel any better user, they used to.

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Orks have plenty of kulture. Rokk and Roll, The Drops, Squig Fights. Ya just gotta dig fer it, ya git

dis right here. Spikey ladz are always up fer a good scrap

> he doesn't know about kulture

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>Machogit Randork Savage

looks goofy

Orks are inherently Warpish, being specifically designed with the psychic gestalt in mind. Ironically this protects them from the darker aspects of the Warp (Chaos) by simply already having them innately familiar with a given power, rather than lucklessly happening into it like human Psykers.

People forget that there's more to the Warp than just Chaos, and that the Young Gods are not the totality of the Realm of Soul's powers.

Orks tend to.

There was a single Khorne stormboy model, as well as a single genestealer hybrid ork back in the 80s, done mostly as joke figures. Outside of that basically the only mention of chaos-worshipping orks was in the Demonhunters dex, and even that was only as suggestion for making your own narrative for battles with friends.

Khorne fucking BTFO.

Also the units of Chaos tainted orks and Khornate Stormboyz in the Freebootaz list.

>gork and mork something as weedy as a chaos god.

they literally have a section in their codexes called "ork kultur".

orks are a perfect civilization

stormboyz are explicitly unorky in the fluff, thats how the khorne influence seeps in.

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>But bozz. Wut about Tuska an iz Boyz? Ain't dey in da imma... immaterum... Da waaaghp wiff da big angry spikey boy?

They think Chaos is unorky, and even Khorne's love for bloodshed and battle is not orky enough for them, so Gork and Mork are always a clearly superior choice. Also, Chaos cults thrive on dissatisfaction and despair, and orks are pretty much always satisfied with their way of life, and not havin' nuff dakka or a big nuff choppah are not strong reasons to turn their backs to their gods.
Mutant orks are either born in planets already in process of turning into demon worlds, or somehow disconnected from ork kulture for long enough to turn towards Chaos.

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Because it would make the setting a lot more boring to have orks just another part of chaos. It doesn't really make much sense outside of that

There are plenty of orks who succumb to chaos, but when you consider the sheer number or orks that exist, the percentage would be too small to consider. Also, orks might turn to chaos in relatively small groups, but if the world they're on is controlled by orks, they will be killed quickly for acting fundamentally un-orky.

>Uncontrollably itchin for a fight.
>Fight even though you're loosing.

>Zog me Dem Boyz was orky.

>Chaos Orkz never seem to come up
From an OoC perspective: Orks are not space marines, why would GW expand on them?
There is one single pic of a Chaos eldar, despite them being quite relevant.

I don't get. Chaos feeds on emotions, are tied to it, like some tulpa or psychic waste given form. Yet, Orkz create Gork and Mork. So, all those warp energies are basically useless to Chaos, since it goes straight to Gork and Mork. Then how basically Khorne feeds on humanity, if the majority of it's warp emotional energies goes basically directly to the Emperor?
If one says that the Chaos Gods feeds on emotions/concepts the orkz would basically supercharge Khorne and not feed Gork and Mork since they are basically violence incarnated, walking killbots.

>Chaos cults thrive on dissatisfaction and despair, and orks are pretty much always satisfied with their way of life
That's very good user.

>how basically Khorne feeds on humanity, if the majority of it's warp emotional energies goes basically directly to the Emperor?

Because in the overpopulated, fanatism-ridden, disconnected worlds occupied by Humanity, most people feel the Emperor to be a distant and uncaring entity, when they don't it's an outright lie fed to them by the Imperial Government, the Administratum and the Eclesiarchy. In such ambient, the billions of billions of humans that toil everyday from dawn to dusk (if you're not living an orbit locked planet or some shit like that) can only feel anger at their neighbor for apparently being better than them, or spite towards those filthy abhumans, or hatred for the upper classes that thrive on the labor of others.
That's one of the Empire's many ironies; the only real way to keep the Empire alive is turning 99,999999% of their inhabitants in cogs in the machine, but the cogs are also filled with repressed emotions, wishes, anger, despair and utter frustration at their meaningless lives.

And that's without counting all the myriad of other sentient species that populate the galaxy.

When everything you need to be happy is violence and permanent war, and you live in a galaxy brimming with both, it's easy to be happy with what you got. It's simple, really.

So this is where all the unloved Runtherds from the gretchin pack go.

This. Space marines are the sole focus of GW. Interconnecting other factions would make for too many sub-factions, most of which wouldn't sell. This is why Tau barely have a warp signature, because GW wants to avoid Chaos Tau. This is why Eldar lore dictates that Slaanesh gobbles up their souls the second they get feisty with the immaterium. Becaue GW doesn't want to do chaos eldar when three varieties of eldar already exist. This is why there are no chaos tyranids, hell, the fact that Genestealer Cults came back is a miracle.

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>'Ere we go

Man I love ork lore

>The Hunt.
So that is where the story of Nurgle getting bullied came from.

That view of the emperor is actually pretty interesting. There's respect, but it's also still mocking because the emperor is not orky at all.

>wut iz strengff exactly? iz it...cunnin' brutality, tha joy of krumpin' gits wiffout dem expectin' it, or...krumpin' em where it hurts tha wurst on purpose?

>Why are orkz so rarely fallen to Chaos?

They do, but as a million other anons have already said: you need to be despairing to fall to the corruption of Chaos and Orks are really happy with their lives so long as they're fightin' and there's PLENTY of opportunities in WH40k for a good 'scrap'.

That said, I vaguely remember -before warhammer started taking itself way too fucking seriously- that *Khorne, Papa Nurgle and I think even Malal had some Orkish following? Khorne was more of just a 'fan' of Orks- his throne even used to have GORK and MORK carved into the head piece or something with Orkish emblems in some of his outfits. Nurgle and Malal though had a few casual cultist Ork followers: Orks occasionally following Papa Nurgle if they got too sick to fight or something and or succumbing to Malal's influence just for the sake of 'pure chaos undivided'.
*Also Blood Orks are fucking RED and I think RED is a really good colour for Orks.

This is all second hand, though, so I could be wrong, but I like that older canon and think it's more appropriate than whatever garbage they have now.

>If all they want is to fight, then why join Chaos when they could fight it?

Aren't there several active Orkish waagh's or whatever constantly circulating through the eye of chaos for this exact reason? Just fighting Demons and Chaos all day every day?

The big question is why don't Grots fall to Chaos all the goddamn time? Sneaky, cowardly, envious, treacherous little shits that they are. Where are the Weird Grots? Where are the Grot cultists? They live in constant fear. They are little better than slaves. They serve as emergency rations. They are put to work in the millions in titanic factories churning out bullets. They are the unwilling test subjects of surgical techniques and ballistics tests. Gork and Mork give them absolutely nothing. They are weak.

Rebel Grots are a thing but they are so rarely in positions to do anything because they are so weak. Chaos can make Grots strong. Its a perfect fit.

lol

Cuz dey know dat Gork (an mork) could krump dat panzy corn an all dose udder chaoz gits

Khorne isn't green, green is best.

Good answer.

It’s meta but also the most plausible.

>'ere we go
I want to be an ork.

>Khorne was more of just a 'fan' of Orks- his throne even used to have GORK and MORK carved into the head piece
Good grief, Khorne really IS the baby brother to Gork and Mork.

>Uthan the Perverse

Now here's a figure I'd like to hear more from.