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>cadia and guard in general has OP antichaos stratagem and relic >armageddon get nothing against orks inb4 Yarrick he is not in regiment
Joshua Reyes
How much do I deny the holocaust if I use the Custodes Corona Carrier as a Venerable Land Raider?
Gavin Nelson
Since Pask is Cadia only and Straken is Catachan only, I wonder if Yarrick is Steel Legion only or if he can be taken by anyone.
Joseph Williams
Can someone indicate what it is that causes superheavies in aux detachments to not have regimental bonuses? I hadn't heard this until today and I'm confused.
Brody Ramirez
Commissars aren't a Regiment. They are assigned to them. Why would they cause themselves to lose sales by denying the hordes of Cadian players access to Yarrick?
Andrew Jackson
>no top five squigs
Oliver Hughes
5 000 000% denier
James Russell
Are they about the same size? If so go for it, if not only for games where your opponent agrees
John Watson
Bit of a weird problem, i was hoping to get Veeky Forums's advice.
A while back, I convinced my guard buddy to tone down his list, because I couldn't beat it, and it was waac as fuck. 60 conscripts, lots of baneblades and tanks and stuff.
The thing is, he hasn't been able to beat my dark eldar list since. I kept telling him to wait for the codex, and that it would make things more balanced. But we played two games last night using the rules we know about from the codex (using spoilerman's videos). He still wasn't able to beat me. So now my friend gave me an ultimatum: either stop running soulburst rules in my DE list and go back to the PFP table, or he won't play against me.
How do I convince my friend that my army isn't waac, so I don't need to change it?
Luke Garcia
On blue Ork Hot-rod buggies should i blend the flames or keep the hues in distinct "layers"?
Ryan Edwards
Plus Yarrick fought alongside loads of other troops on Armageddon, not just steel legion. Plenty of fights alongside the PDF or some Cadians.
Ryder Long
dumb squig and anime poster
Nolan Young
Stop trying to handicap your friends list just so you can win you asshole
Owen Stewart
Drink a gallon of bleach to prove your sincerity. It'll solve his problem, yours and ours.
Nathaniel Carter
>restricts friends list >wont restrict own either man up and let him play unrestricted or follow some restrictions as well, cuckboi
Matthew Moore
I mean... why would they cause themselves to lose sales by limiting Pask to Cadian or Harker to Catachan? Same thing. *shrug*
Jason Russell
Do you really think even the most minor of rules decisions are controlled by the desire for money over everything else?
Nolan Anderson
>not being able to handle baneblades >when youre playing ayy lmao fuck your tanks: the army >while using fucking retarded ynnari rules to boot Youre just shitty at the game
Connor Diaz
Oh, I would totally restrict myself if my army was the waacfag army or if I was running a waaaclist. But I'm not, so I shouldn't have to.
Michael Powell
Yes?
It's all about dat incentive.
Luis Perry
I'm curious about 1 thing. Yarrick can definitely be taken by other regiments, however I'm not sure how his voice of command order will work, since that's his default warlord trait. Maybe he can order anyone. Might even be able to order Ogryn.
Parker Myers
It's not like the Pask, Harker or Yarrick models are really money earners, why should they care? They are small models that you will at most buy one of. Now, having 7 different Russ tanks and armies of 200 conscripts, that is where the model money is.
Ayden Green
Yes.
Easton Price
you are running one from his point of view, just as he was running one from yours
Brayden Green
I'm damn near certain that it'll be restricted to INFANTRY.
Nathaniel Adams
Yeah but what if he doesn't have a tag so how will that work? He has 1 order he can give to no one?
Maybe he gets one in the case of him getting voice of command and you can apply him to whatever regiment you're using.
Kayden Roberts
This is some extreme hypocrisy
Luis Carter
People can use the default tank commander in placd of pask. Pask is better sure, but the unnamed commander fulfils the same role. Harker was never super popular. I think I've seen him played once over the years. Yarrick is owned at least by every second IG player, he's easily the most recognisable IG character and tying him to a single regiment would hinder his fame on the tabletop.
Oliver Powell
It's also bait of such a magniture that a image macro of sufficient size exceeds my computers storage capacity.
Sebastian Russell
Who's to say Yarrick must be your warlord? Named characters don't HAVE to be your warlord, do they? If I'm taking Pask and a couple tank commanders I can just designate one of the random tank commanders as warlord to avoid having to take the shitty Cadian order giving trait, right?
Adam Wilson
T. Waacfag in denial
Grayson Taylor
>55682504 Pic related.
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I'm attempting to do a kitbash for a squad of Guardsmen for a feudal world look
>Bretonnia Bucket Heads >Cadian Legs >Mix of GSC autoguns and Cadian/Catachan Lasguns
Just stuck on the chest Both the Scion chest and GSC Neophyte looks good. But worried Scion looks too bulky for 5+, and the GSC chest is a little too sci-fiy for the feudal look I was going for.
Tho I was thinking some Greatswords for a more ornate look / fantasy bits
Advice?
Isaiah Morales
*He* doesn't have the Regiment keyword, but other units in the *same detachment* will have the keyword. They will have found some way to phrase the rule when the codex is released.
Sebastian Fisher
>I'm not sure how his voice of command order will work, since that's his default warlord trait Clearly he can only order fellow Commissars around
Bentley Rodriguez
can't risk us 'NPC's being given any references
Justin Hill
Did these guys spend all their teef on their shootas? It bugs me that they don't have a 4+ save, regular Nobz do.
James Wright
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Lincoln Kelly
>NPC's being given any references Don't worry, you got referenced in 8e codex that Orks and Steel Legion had to work together to fight the big bad Daemons
>Steel Legion gets hidden trait. One ORK detachment can be taken for every STEEL LEGION detachment so long as your opponent has a DAEMON detachment.
Jace Cruz
>Remembering when you could take Anti Xenos Doctrines or Chapter Tactics
Eli Phillips
Scion chest looks fine.
Brody Harris
Asshole
Jose Bennett
He's not the waacfag. You are.
Grayson Perez
To reply to this the Haemonculi didn't exactly intend to cause the birth of Slaanesh but this new Ynnari development could put them in direct allegiance with them.
Jordan Nelson
>Bretonnia Bucket Heads Unless you already have hundreds of these, scrap that idea.
Chase Campbell
This is like going to /mu/ and posting in local scene threads about how you like to go to DIY shows and take pictures of code violations, then forward them to the fire dept in order to get the places shut down.
Ask me how I know.
Zachary Robinson
I made a veteran squad of these boys already, but I think I want to make a squad of Ventrillian Nobles. I would make more, but I only have 10 Pistollier heads and I don't want to get more.
Mason Russell
Recast them my dude. Presscasting should probably do just fine.
Sebastian Foster
>Shotgun Fuck, I would kill for a bunch of those.
Ayden Gray
When was the last time you saw an Autarch in an Eldar list, user?
Great your dudes model, not a bad mini itself and very important for fluff reasons in the scale a normal 40k game plays out. It's just the rules, which are not even remotely mediocre, let alone good.
Jonathan Perez
Guide/Tutorial?
Isaiah Williams
Has anybody put the Astra Militarum dex up yet?
Oliver Perez
You can order the shotgun bits from the GSC kit on ebay. Some of them have goofy hands, but as far as I know, only veterans can take shotguns, you should have 5 of them being your sergeant, 3 special weapons and a heavy flamer. Actually I think commanders and command squads can take them too, but I don't know why you would do that.
Camden Miller
Look up bluestuff recasting on yt, theres a shitload of dudes who show how.
Caleb James
You are the higher nail fucko, get hammered.
Noah Ward
Reminder that WAAC is just a meme you spout at your opponent when you can't think of a way to win against them.
Jack Harris
Here is an idea I had, why not make Marines with servos? But these are not techmarines, these servos will hold guns for them, kinda like how people in the age of sail carried multiple flintlocks, these marines empty each bolter and swap for a fresh one,so it fits in 40k doesn't it?
Ian Gonzalez
Sounds like fucking tech-heresy to me.
Jackson Campbell
Iron hands
Connor Moore
Was reading tactica, saw that modifier to hit roll on supercharged plasmas are solved before to avoid 1 or to make 2 a 1 against alpha legion/raven guard, while at my flgs it's considered turning a 3+ into a 2+ dice roll
I quickread core rules this morning, the only thing it says it's about "1 is always failure regardless of modifiers"
So when do you apply the modifier to the roll? Is the strategy used on the tactica wrong on based on a loophole? Or can you choose when to apply the modifier, just make sure to tell your opponent before the match?
Matthew Russell
So are Guard superheavies OP now?
I'm catachan, wanting to run an army with a few basilisks and russes, some HWTs, 5-6 infantry squads, and some scions, but that leaves a big chunk of change to fit a LoW into. I was thinking either stormlord (perfect medium-heavy fire), baneblade (the OG pimp), or a shadowsword (the one-stop shop for DELET THIS) . Yes/no?
I just don't want to be a waacfag, plz help
Robert Watson
You could model something to represent that, and use the rules around bases for familiars or watchers in the dark. Basically ornaments that get ignored in the crunch.
Nolan Myers
What if I glued a bunch of Brimstone horrors into the shape of a huge brimstone horror would that make a good daemon prince?
Andrew Wilson
I fell they might be more popular if the model wasn't limited to a single, slightly weird loadout. Hell, if plastic aspect warriors when? WHEEEEEEEEN? existed so if was fairly simple to swap in other parts, or just kitbash an autarch from scratch, I reckon you'd see them more.
Of course, what will probably actually happen is the eldar codex will only have an entry for an autarch with wings, mandiblasters, a fusion pistol and a power sword.
Elijah White
>I don't want to be a waacfag >which of these fuck no OP units should I use
Jeremiah Brooks
Planning that for my nurgle daemon prince but with nurglings. load of them just stuck together with armour shaped plates over them
Ethan Davis
> Those who hates waacfag run the risk of becoming one, when you gaze in to the waac the waac also gazes back.
Easton Jenkins
It's even more annoying since they HAD 4+ saves in the edition before these models
Justin Campbell
If done properly, sounds like it could be cool. I'd almost want to make a horrible... Horror Ball. Pink horrors on the inside, followed by a layer of Blue Horrors, with Brimstone horrors forming the majority of the "limbs"
Mason Scott
Yeah actually, if you did a giant autistic looking Balrog with a bunch of tzeentch mods and brims riding on top, it'd look awesome.
Cameron Young
I've actually been thinking of something similar but for spawn and stuff. Though I was planning on going with more of a greenstuffing route for that.
William Wood
Well, I was thinking of something akin to a new class, but nevermind Oh really? What a shame,but now that I think about it? Why doesn't some techpriest just lie and say they "found" their inventions lying around? For all the bickering amongs priests, I expected more lies.
Blake Young
Speaking of WAACfag units, I love the idea of my Shadow Sword spitting out 8d6 heavy flamer shots everytime someone even thinks about assaulting it. But is 200 points for 2 sets of sponsens really worth it? They also come with Lascannons so it's almost comparable to taking a laspredator.
Jack Collins
Well that's what I'm asking. I've been running russes through thick and thin for ages now, and basilisks didn't get any better. I got rid of all my conshits cause I hate being Waac, and unless you're running a trio of scion command with plasma/melta, they aren't OP.
I just have this superheavy kit I got on the cheap a while back, and at the time everyone said it was terrible, so I'm wondering if now I can build it without being a fag. Previously I had some hydras, sentinels, and bullgryns, bullgryns aside I'm sick of using things that rarely get to do anything at all.
So yeah, I know Guard is really op but I want to use what I like without being a dickhead.
Julian Martin
I have about 50. So I am committed to bucket heads.
Logan Cook
magnets
Dominic Nguyen
Wait do regimental doctrines carry to superheavies??? If so heavy flamer catachan will be insane
Brandon Scott
It's worth it if you plan on buffing it, since more weapons on one platform gives you more mileage on your buffs.
Orders, psychic powers, defense searchlights, trojan support vehicles, salamander command vehicles will all give you more bang for the buck on a SH than they would on smaller units.
Jackson Barnes
So why don't baneblades get regiment bonuses?
Matthew Turner
What's this? Meltabomb?
Liam Parker
I'd love to do them, but them feather heads are nigh impossible to find.
Ethan Bell
Seriously thinking about making huge conscript blobs of these guys, using this:
I believe catachan rerolls only apply once per vehicle.
Charles Lewis
Yes, SHs have keyword. Catachan hellhammer with flamers, Cadian reroll 1s, Valhallan ignoring damage penalties, Tallarn outflanking...all legit.
Carter Martin
So if I want to get into dark eldar, I can get the getting started box and a box of wyches and it lands me about 500 pts. If I then get Gangs of commoragh I can get about 900 points. And then I have kabalites in a raider, an Archon, wyches, 9 raiders and 10 hellions which seems very fast but like a bad idea. In burger bucks this is 75+40+60 plus taxes but I get a discount at my store / maybe can find deals. The alternative is getting started, wyches and second getting started. That's 2 kabalites in raiders, wyches 6 raiders and two archons which is also around 900 points for 75+40+75. I don't know where I should go? Obviously getting started and wyches to get 500 point games in, but what kinds of units are going to be core and continue to be useful as my army grows?
Jack Jenkins
Go look at the math. Stormlord is so-so now unless you really need the extended firing deck. Go to superheavies are the Hellhammer or Shadowsword.
Camden Kelly
Yeah, you do have Techpriests doing that I guess. But then it turns out that the shape of the reverse flange sprocket corrupts the user into a raving, daemon vomiting psychopath after prolonged use. Or the software is full of scrap code that will infect a ship's door mechanisms and space everyone.
Technology is archaic and stagnant for a reason. Fucking Chaos.
Jordan Barnes
I like that GW said we're killing Deathstars!
Nah, just bring 3 detachments and you're good to go.
Brayden Parker
Per weapon.
Matthew Cruz
Probably not worth the extra expense on a tank that's going to stay way back and mostly do work with its main gun. 4d6 flamer shots is still plenty scary if you want to go that route. Flamer spam makes more sense on Stormlords and Hellhammers who are going to be up close and often charging the enemy.
Carson Martin
Good golly gosh, I may just run my kriegers as catachan. If only to not offend the anti-FW crowd.
Cameron Hughes
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Leo Nguyen
The transport capacity make it very good in a niche role. Otherwise squishy scions safely firing AP -2 guns and plasmas out the top is really mean, especially if they have the scion doctrine to reroll failed wounds and get extra shots on 6+. Stell Legion can actually make good use of it, too, since plopping one stormlord in the board center lets tons of units hop in and out at will, anywhere within 3" around that enormous footprint. You can rapid fire, embark to safety, next turn disembark on the opposite side of the vehicle where you cannot be reached and rapid fire again...and you can do it with 4 squads at a time.
Easton Flores
Post your list
Nathan Hill
Tallarn also get to advance, fire, and charge with "Crush Them!", which is fun.
Gabriel James
On a BS2+ unit that rerolls 1s to hit do I want two heavy flamers or two storm bolters, or one of each?
Heavy flamers are S5 and AP-1 vs S4 AP- storm bolters, but they only have 1/3 the range, and are at the mercy of dice rolls to determine hits, while two storm bolters does 8 shots in rapid fire range.
Zachary Miller
I saw some time ago some alternative Tallarn models but I cant remember what company made them its was a squad of 10 they were offering. Anyone know?
Jonathan Martinez
>and a box of wyches Sadly, they're kind of crappy. It's slightly more expensive, but I'd recommend grabbing a ravager instead.
Ian Jackson
Slaanesh's penis pump, she really does need one now that she has a real flesh penis.
Samuel Carter
Tallarn are definitely the blitz armor faction of choice right now. Valhallan are also good, but only for more static board control and endurace, especially with the ability to respawn conscripts off your edge to bubble wrap with, and the ability to shoot into melee when those conscripts get charged. Catachan have the best artillery and flame units.
All in all, the codex is very very good at differentiating the regiments by playstyle. It's also super-powerful, but I imagine as new dexes come out they will all be a similar power level as this one with similar flexibility. In the long run things look good for the game.