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Thread Question: If you are DM, what ridiculous weapons have your players tried to run by you? If you are a player, have you or another player suggested a weapon that in retrospect was ridiculous and/or blatantly unbalanced?
>Question Don't think I ever seriously suggested it, but came up with a simple gun (or multiple guns) placed on a spear, all fired by stabbing someone.
Hunter Gomez
>Thread Question These items are as ridiculous as I can possibly get without going to some crazy extremes.
Gabriel Clark
Thanks, anons. Didn't realize how fragile PCs are compared to monsters.
Lincoln Ramirez
Stop linking your shitty home brew every thread
Nathaniel Bell
Continue linking your shitty home brew every thread
Hunter Ross
So a new question for making NPCs similar to PCs/abilities:would pruning the noncombat/useless abilities and doubling their HP do the trick? I would use straight dice instead of the "you get max at first level" stuff.
Eli Price
Like a bangstick, those things they use underwater where you have to directly poke the shark to trigger it.
Adam Smith
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
Jace Howard
I'm doing some random tables, which kind of adventures should I add to it?
So far I have "kill some dangerous creature" and "investigate missing children".
Connor Sullivan
kill missing children
Lincoln Harris
I like PC abilities better than monster ones a lot of the time, and my campaign has a lot of humanoid enemies. The Volo's and MM stat blocks have a few, but for the most part they're pretty ehh.
Nathan Morris
>what ridiculous weapons have your players tried to run by you? Not exactly ridiculous, but one player wanted to have a repeating crossbow and I know it was just so he could have 5 attacks at low levels.
Colton Adams
I don't think this has been shown here for over a few months, but thanks for remembering that it exists.
Hunter Wood
>steal crown gold >catch the crown gold thieves >kill the murderhobo
Jaxon Williams
Congrats for spinning "fuck off" into a positive thing.
Jaxson Robinson
How good is the Paladin/warlock multi class? Is it actually strong, or is this a meme?
Jordan Thomas
If you want to make an NPC similar to a PC, then you take an NPC category that's similar to the class of the PC (Thief for a Rogue, Scout for a Ranger, idk, the shit they have at the back of the Monster Manual) and add one or two features you see that seem correct to use. Maybe a Favoured Enemy or Sneak Attack, even Action Surge to cement martial prowess. Leave the HP alone.
Justin Collins
Give him a repeating crossbow that shoots 10 shots a round like a real chu-ko-nu, but only let it deal 1 damage that can't be increased and doesn't use the ability modifier. He'll get tired of rolling 10 dice every round soon enough.
Joshua Young
Depends on how often your DM let's you short rest and the spread you do. Having a couple extra smites just for sitting with your thumb up your arse for an hour can come in handy.
Angel Harris
I like that they put forth an effort to respond to the material. Which is nice of them.
Julian Allen
I asked for this. The DM let me have it since I asked that it provide no mechanical advantage. I just used it in conjunction with crossbow expert to have a dual wielding hand crossbow fighter. He also was a loose cannon city watch on the edge of control.
Jack Harris
Was mostly trying to think of a neat way to do a paladin, and figured mixing Warlock stuff with Paladin things would go well, so I was curious as to how well the short rest smites actually help.
Blake Wright
DMing Homebrew heavy Warhammer fantasy have with 5e Rate the party: Nurgle Eldritch Knight Khorne Centigor champion fighter Dark elf Corsair battle master Dark elf assassin rogue Skaven gunslinger
Unlikely allies, United (barely) to search for warpstone and avoid a witch Hunter who's tracking them
James Jenkins
ok
Alexander Rodriguez
How do I Homebrew a repeater crossbow that's actually balanced Double the number of attacks you can take but all are disadvantage?
Jack Moore
I'm going to be in an impromptu island/pirate/shipwrecked campaign tomorrow, and I need ideas for a character concept. Help please.
Anthony Johnson
It's pretty nice to have them, and the levels in warlock can also offer a bit of extra utility in cases where you don't need to smite something that day.
Joseph Long
Play as a Rogue or a Fighter. Real dashing swashbuckler type. Try and pick up some good tool proficiencies if you can.
Camden Ross
Adds a bit more smiting in, gives you a ranged option, gives you some more offensive spell options. It's pretty good.
Not as strong as Paladin/Sorcerer. Doesn't give quite as many options as Paladin/Bard. But it's good.
Jackson Hill
It's very hard because multihit is very easy to abuse (hex and hunter's mark both scale ridiculously with it). Unless you can find a good reason other than explicitly "all bolts count as a single attack" it's going to be hard to balance it.
Michael Butler
What makes Paladin/Sorcerer so strong?
Samuel Bell
Why are spears shit compared to glaives and halberds? Simply because they don't have a slashing part? Honestly the pointy end is what you would use the most on any polearm.
Jordan Gonzalez
>revised ranger ua update next week
why, the current one already works so well. fucking lazy mearls
Nathan Foster
Because they're a simple weapon, but there should really be a martial spear that isn't quite a pike.
Something like a longspear, or a boar spear. 1d8/10p and reach, but no heavy or thrown properties.
Samuel Murphy
I think I'd like them better if they were less tailor-made for certain classes.
Parker Howard
Sorcery points that you can just convert to more spell slots for more smiting. Also metamagic.
Kayden Jones
A wedding guest who curses the ship he's journeying on with his reckless disregard for nature
Easton Garcia
Pikes are what you're thinking of. The simple Spear entry is for more throwing or hunting spears, rather than something really big designed for warfare.
I do wish there was a martial longspear option that could be used alongside a shield, although it would probably need to do d6 damage to be balanced that way.
Unlike the other two combos, though, the Palock has top flavor as long as you align your patron and oath around similar things; Fey/Ancients for example. You become a knight with not only a code of conduct, but a lord to serve.
David Turner
>Investigate dangerous children
John Ortiz
Why not just be a d8/10? There's no piercing versatile weapon like the longsword/warhammer/battleaxe at the moment.
Daniel Long
local butcher must love these guys
Nicholas Allen
>that fruit spearing in the air
William Anderson
Does metamatic do anything for a pal/sor that a regular sorcerer doesn't already have?
Anthony Reyes
Treachery/Fiend is a decent combo too.
Jayden Richardson
Revised Ranger needs an update at some point. Is it really going to be the next UA though?
Thomas Rivera
Because then it would be a much better option if it also had reach upon it. I was thinking something more in line with a whip in regards to function
Brody Thomas
>He's chewing as some of the shots start in that section >MFW he was eating that shit in between takes
Noah Fisher
I love that you see him clearly chowing down on the apple when he's stabbing the orange.
Camden Powell
>Is it really going to be the next UA though? No, probably not. Revised is likely going to get a gussied up document and get released on DMs Guild or something.
Dominic Collins
New GM here Players start at level 1 Variant or regular human?
Jace Rogers
Quicken a spell and attack to deal real damage. Quicken hold person+auto-crits memery.
6 of them (the staff included) do have class restrictions the other 9 do not though.
Eli White
Just make it act like a normal crossbow that has to be reloaded after X shots as opposed to one.
Jackson Foster
>Wasting fruit and pig carcasses just because you hacked them up with a halberd
Bentley Allen
I asked for a lance that has a chain on it that can be used, for a bonus action, to pull the actual tips back into place to become a longsword. Picture a longsword with the sides being iron sword, and the middle being a lance base, with the top being iron that hides the telescoping lance length and can be lengthened out, which would put the two iron bits together into a lance tip.
I would think a trick weapon like that is a bit OP in terms of versatility but at the same time my companions are one-handing greataxes because "muh Goliath strength" and summoning infinitely respawning demons with a flute, so this seems fine.
Jace Perry
>coldsteel
Landon Roberts
>Investigate missing creature
Jose Evans
>Khorne Centigor champion fighter
They don't run away. They ass fuck whoever is following them or die trying. Still, it's your game so who gives a shit?
Chase Barnes
Trying to add some variety by adding Goliath subraces for other types of Giants So far I've got this: >Stone Giant= Vanilla Goliath >Frost Giant= 1/rest as an action gain immunity to cold damage for 1d12+con minutes >Fire Giant= 1/rest as a bonus action add 1d12+con fire damage to your next melee weapon attack Having trouble coming up with traits centered around the d12 for Storm and Hill giants, any suggestions?
Jaxson Butler
Not him, but I've actually done that one before. A wizard made a pact with a malevolent, spider-themed fey lord who was replacing children with shapechanged Aranea.
The foul plan began to fall apart when one died due to a freak accident while hunting with 'his' father--a *massive* sheet of slate fell off the mountainside and as it smashed into the rocks below it sent chunks of it rocketing through the woods, one fist-sized chunk catching the not-child in the side of the head. Turned back into its spider form as it died in the man's arms after he ran into town screaming for help, just as the paladin begin pushing their way to him through the crowd.
Nolan Watson
Hill Giant should have something involving eating.
Matthew Thomas
Is this weapon balanced /5eg/?
Spiked Chain 2d4 piercing damage Heavy, Reach, Two-Handed, Finesse, Special Special: when you try to shove an enemy with this weapon the target has disadvantage on his check
Jack Carter
>Storm Giant= 1/rest as a bonus action add 1d12+con electrical damage to your next thrown weapon attack >Hill Giant= Fucking nothing because hill giants suck
Cameron Perez
Storm could be a temporary flying leap for 1d12 x 5 feet or the like.
Hill might work for 1d12 + con temporary hitpoints
Ian Stewart
>Two-Handed, Finesse
Into the trash it goes.
Jacob Morris
I understand the Errata for an unarmed strike. I just want to know if you can still add your proficiency bonus when you roll to hit with an unarmed strike? Is that still a thing or are you just making a normal attack Roll by just adding your strength modifier?
Nicholas Davis
You're proficient with unarmed strikes
Carson James
Everyone is proficient with their unarmed strikes. Attack rolls with them are d20 + proficiency bonus + strength modifier, damage is 1 + strength modifier.
Ethan Diaz
>Heavy >Finesse These two do not and are probably not supposed to come as a set.
Grayson Sanders
I was thinking maybe do retard strength for Hill Giant, like as a reaction to making an attack roll you can add 1d12+con once per rest. Also the whole "acclimated to cold climates" thing is garbage, since it basically means nothing mechanically
Logan Brown
What about longbows?
Jose Howard
What reason would a mages guild establish a college on an off shore island?
Nathaniel Bennett
Ranged =/= Finesse. Just like how a monk's unarmed strike isn't finesse just because it can use str or dex.
Tyler Cox
Are longbows a finesse weapon?
Landon Butler
The damage is a little high. 2d4 is (just a bit) stronger than 1d8. I'd go with 1d6.
I think it works alright in this case. It's less that it's literally Heavy and more that it's too cumbersome to properly use for Small creatures. It'd probably make more sense to just fold that into its Special property.
Owen Hall
Research University. There is an artifact or a certain resource there worth studying or harvesting, whether it be local wildlife, a ruin, or a type of plant. It also could be used to train mages for a certain environment, if the dungeon has already been emptied of its most dangerous occupants.
Zachary Clark
Fucken secrets my dude
Lucas Peterson
>Rare plant on the island requires magical study >Rare animal on the island requires magical study >Rare mineral on the island requires magical study >Massive tax writeoff for the guild >Guildmaster wants a fucking beach party
Alexander Foster
I'm confused as to why a melee weapon being dex to hit and heavy is unacceptable but a ranged weapon can be? Defensive duelist?
Carter Reyes
>I think it works alright in this case. As weird as the stats work, I agree that it sorta works. But I'm not sure where shoving is coming from? Shouldn't it be tripping?
Jonathan Kelly
>As weird as the stats work >As weird as the stats look My mind is a slippery mess.
Joshua Myers
I personally would separate it into two weapons:
Weighted Chain/Kusarigama 1d6 piercing damage Reach, Two-handed, Finesse, special
Spiked Chain/Meteor Hammer 2d4 piercing damage Heavy, Reach, Two-handed, Special
The weighted chain wouldn't be a straight upgrade to the whip because it's two-handed, and the spiked chain would still do less damage than the heavy reach two-handed polearms while still having its special snowflake property and slightly more reliable damage.
Austin Cook
Shoving is how you trip user
Connor Turner
>mfw user out-autisms trolls with positivity >"t...thanks"
Gabriel Hughes
Do you guys find that your groups and parties tend to default to the assumed baseline of "wandering band of sellsword mercenaries" as the go-to high concept of your games, or do your campaigns focus on being something other than "adventurers"?
Gavin Morris
>Also the whole "acclimated to cold climates" thing is garbage, since it basically means nothing mechanically It means you don't need to make Con saves to avoid exhaustion in extreme cold. If you never use that in your games, sure, it means nothing. But I've never had a Dwarf's Stonecunning come up either.
Joshua Martinez
Thank you. Now to get drunk enough that I hopefully stop posting entirely.
Jonathan Baker
So, does a character that starts as essentially a prisoner and heavily mistrusted by the party actually seem fun to play? Or is that my fetish speaking?
Aaron Howard
Halloween is the perfect time of year for Witcher Contracts. Leshens and friends have plenty of spook potential.
Samuel Thompson
What's your preferred way to play Eldritch Knight: S&S, great weapon, polearm? I'm looking to build one but I'm not sure where to take it.
Hudson Hughes
A longbow is a large, heavy, bulky weapon to handle, but ultimately its size does not figure at all in its ability to do damage; smaller asian composite bows can achieve similar draw weights while not being heavy, and are likely excluded for balance reasons. Ultimately the main factor in using all bows in an individual combat context is how accurately you can place your shot. That's why ranged (dex/str) is the default for ranged weapons, and Thrown (str) is the extra property.
A heavy melee weapon's weight is integral to how it's used and does damage, because you will actively and regularly be swinging it around. Unlike a longbow, whose power is drawn from the elasticity of the bow, the power of a melee weapon is on how you swing it, and the larger weapon, the larger inherent strength is required to use it for leverage. That's why for melee weapons strength is the base factor, and finesse (dex/str) is the extra property for particularly light or specialized weapons.
Connor Perry
>So, does a character that starts as essentially a prisoner and heavily mistrusted by the party actually seem fun to play? It could work, with the right party. >Or is that my fetish speaking? Almost certainly but that shouldn't stop you, assuming you don't make it weird.
Hudson Thomas
Hey. Me again.
My DM is currently asleep, but would you guys personally allow a Great Old One Warlock who used to be a Human fisherman, but was transformed into a Triton through overexposure to her patron and is trying to find a way to break the connection between her and the G.O.O. and transform back?
Cameron Perez
Seems fine. It doesn't require any rules to be bent and is purely story, and doesn't seem particularly magical realmy.
Charles Hughes
So basically in terms of game mechanics it doesn't break anything, it's mostly a flavor fail
Mason Gray
Is the Tortle package in the trove? I can't seem to find it.