Competitive Modern General

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Best color edition

When will they unban eye of Ugin?

Playing?
Hating?
Thoughts on the meta?
Meme tech?

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mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-96-31-tix-ug-emerge-modern
modernnexus.com/welcome-modern-introduction/
modernnexus.com/?s=beginner's guide
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-10-17-esper-eldrazi-control/
veekyforums.com/thread/55735273/games
mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-91-31-tix-modern-ur-summonings
m.youtube.com/watch?v=mF4CnX2dwrU
markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/166160319923/about-the-possible-upcoming-change-to-the
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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

the thread actually died

Emberburn
Emberburn

When will they unban eye of Ugin?
When they ban a whole bunch of Eldrazi, which they won't do, so never.
Playing?
Affinity
Hating?
Nothing
Thoughts on the meta?
Gud.

iluvmen
iluvmen

It hit bump limit senpai

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

unbanning eye of ugin
Hopefully fucking never
naya burn
nothing because I ain't no bitch
meta is pretty fine imo
I run 2 deflecting palm mb since my local meta is a lot of gds and e-tron

5mileys
5mileys

When will they unban eye of Ugin?
You misspelled “Ban Eldrazi Temple and all Eldrazi”
Playing?
Mono W Death&Taxes
Hating?
Anything with Eldrazi
Thoughts on the meta?
Is pretty great right now
Meme
Running 4x GQ 4xTE and 2xFoR so I can lick up the salty tears of Tron AND Blood Moon shitters

cum2soon
cum2soon

is this just a joke or is it quoting some card?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

How shit are elves on current modern?
They sound fun and cheap

whereismyname
whereismyname

They got a lot better with the Devoted Druid + Vizier infinite mana combo, though even just a couple Devoted Druids and Ezuri can go infinite.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

FoR?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Is there a good creature in red or black that destroys an artifact on ETB? Or can be sacced to destroy one or something?

Inmate
Inmate

Meme tech
I'm running RIP main board, so I decided to toss in some Eternal Scourge for value.

likme
likme

Ingot Chewer.

Methshot
Methshot

Playing?
Affinity, going for Elves soon
Hating?
Control cancer
Thoughts on the meta?
It's okay
Meme tech?
no

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

That could work

I've been struggling with stalling out the game (blood moon and Lili) and then not being able to close. Goblin Dark Dwellers was a huge help, but it's not quite enough.

Any other spicy tech like this?

cum2soon
cum2soon

I don't really know what your deck does, but if you're using Lili to keep your opponent's hand empty you could use 8-rack tech.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-08-17-mogis-control/

The above list has been tweaked slightly, but it's pretty much the same. Bonfires are now Damnations though

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

rate my stupid jank
deckstats.net/decks/91953/807258-coalition-victory-modern?saved=1&lng=en

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

It kinda seems like it's all over the place desu. You should pick a direction for the deck and focus in on it.

Techpill
Techpill

What cards would you unban, Veeky Forums?

What cards would you ban?

I would unban:
BBE
Birthing Pod
DRS
Dig Through Time
Eye of Ugin
Green Sun's Zenith
JTMS
Mental Misstep
Preordain (NOT ponder though)
Skullclamp
SFM
Treasure Cruise
Artifact Lands

I would ban:
Back to Nature
Blood Moon
Inkmoth Nexus
Monastery Swiftspear

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Artifact Lands

RavySnake
RavySnake

I should add that I play affinity.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

i'd ban tripfags

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

no way.
Playing?
E-Tron and Brews because i just play FNM
Hating?
Burn, because it's so one dimensional on how to approach fighting it
Thoughts on the meta?
Pretty fun. I think the creature power creep has been too much as of late. Need better spells to answer big dudes.
Meme tech?
Playing G to get access to Ancient Stirrings and Magus of the Candelabra for my E tron deck. Turn 3 World Breakers are scarier than Turn 3 Reality Smashers

MPmaster
MPmaster

Do not respond to tripfags.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Burn, because it's so one dimensional on how to approach fighting it
I dunno, you can attack Burn from a few angles. E-Tron tends to use Chalice to do it, which isn't how most other decks go about it.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Playing?
Esper Spirits
Hating
Knightfall because I don't know how to beat it.
Thoughts on the meta?
I haven't seen the new Planeswalker rule in action, but has it made things worse, better, or no particular effect?
Meme tech?
I was thinking about making an Eternal Scourge/Misthollow Griffith deck using hate cards such as Lost Legacy and RIP on myself.

FastChef
FastChef

I haven't seen the new Planeswalker rule in action, but has it made things worse, better, or no particular effect?
It shouldn't really do much of anything. The only time I've ever seen it be an issue before was with the two Lilis.

Inmate
Inmate

That's what I'm saying, I just throw down Chalice and hope he doesn't have a Smash to Smithereens.

askme
askme

Just getting into modern. Haven't playtested this one yet. How'd I do for a $25 poorfag deck?

idontknow
idontknow

get invisible stalkers

JunkTop
JunkTop

Man I...

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

human bogles
ayy

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Heroic decks can work if you get a bunch of cantrips from red.

I've been trying to get this to work, but there's no home.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Emerge unscathed

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-96-31-tix-ug-emerge-modern

Skullbone
Skullbone

I would ban
all planeswalkers
tarmagoyf
all delve creatures
monastery swiftspear
all eldrazi

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

go play standard then

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Des is that you?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

not unbanning cloudpost
It's like you want Tron to live or something

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

A little slow. Aura decks need card draw. I recommend dropping the auras and just going for a Heroic deck or go for good, old fashioned bogles.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

It would be better if it wasn't just copypasta.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Every fucking thread.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Field of Ruin from Ixalan

w8t4u
w8t4u

Do not reply to Tripfags

askme
askme

Old modern player here, how good are the Land Destruction Ponza decks right now? With Grixis Shadow and Eldrazi Tron looking like the decks to beat, it seems like a good choice, but I could also be very wrong

hairygrape
hairygrape

good are the Land Destruction Ponza decks right now
Not very. Ponza doesn't work as well against e-tron as you might think it would.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Playing?
Mono Black Mid-range
Hating?
Nothing right now.
Thoughts on the meta?
Fine as is for now
Meme tech?
Lashwrithe, and Lost legacy

takes2long
takes2long

Has anyone good resources to start playing modern? Tips? I'm playing kitchen table and sealed since 2 years and I would like to start playing modern. Also, how do mono-white knights perform in the format? I don't mind losing a lot but will I be able to win some games and have fun? I have access to many nice cards and won't bother spending some shekels.

likme
likme

Sad, follow-up, how is DnT right now?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

The only viable mono-white deck is Death and Taxes.

StonedTime
StonedTime

modernnexus.com/welcome-modern-introduction/
modernnexus.com/?s=beginner's guide

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Decent I think.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Is the mono white build better, or the w/b/c build that splashes eldrazi?

likme
likme

I'm no expert, but when I tested Eldrazi & Taxes it just made me want to play full on Eldrazi. If I were going to play D&T I'd stick to mono-white.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Will opt and sanctuary finally make infect great again?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Probably not. No probe, no go.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

infect
No. Opt and Sanctuary do not fill the role that probe filled. Scry and draw effects aren't going to help a low-creature density deck like Infect against removal.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

If Peek can't help it, than neither can Opt. 0 mana "check if the coast is clear" and "draw a card" is quintessential for Infect's competitiveness.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Not playing Bugz n Thugz

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

WOTC apologizes for anyone who got offended by this deck name.

Booteefool
Booteefool

That's racist!

Inmate
Inmate

Thugs means black people
The anti-racism crowd are their own worst enemy, but they'll never realise it.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Also the deck is a reference to this.
And as far as I know, thugs nowadays are typically attributed to young hooligans, whether they are black, white, and maybe even latino. It's only "problematic" now because Fox News, whether by coincidence or intent, are using to describe delinquent jerks that happen to be black.

But to get back on-topic, tell me why I should play Bugs n' Thugs.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Play it because it sounds fun. It's just midrange BG infect. Gets to run Thoughtseize as a result, but it's just not as good.

Emberburn
Emberburn

It's really simple user-chan, _____________________fun_________________

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Eldrazi version actually counteracts what D&T wants to do. It just tries to play big creatures to get over the hump.

In D&T you're trying to disrupt things, but when you toss the Eldrazi in there, you want to go over things.

It's really pointless to be honest, you don't need to make your mana base even more fragile just to play big eldrazi. Displacer is very useful and can see some play, but I wouldn't bother with the entire Eldrazi package

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

In what scenario would you play his guy over Finks?

massdebater
massdebater

only one: I'm into jank so much that I try to build dinosaurs in modern

iluvmen
iluvmen

none

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Why do Eldrazi get to be better in every way than Artifact Creatures with no downsides at all?

Methshot
Methshot

in standard

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Cool! Thanks!

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

needing colorless mana is usually a downside, unless you're running tron

artifacts can be run literally everywhere

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

because they arent artifacts

viagrandad
viagrandad

Lodestone Golem and Metalworker would like to have a word with you

Snarelure
Snarelure

In your end step I'll Whir of Invention for 2, go get Painter's Servant name red
Untap, upkeep, draw, float a butt ton of mana, All is Dust

Inmate
Inmate

When I play Affinity and get paired up against E-Tron, I don't feel like Eldrazi are better in every way.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Magical Christmas land is a fun place.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I still remain steadfast in my opinion that Affinity should run Painter in the board for Eldrazi matchups.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

You stay steadfast all you like. I'm not going to put it in.

likme
likme

Destroys Eldrazi Temples
Ancient Stirrings now can't take any cards
Eldrazi Displacer can't bounce Etched Champion anymore
What's not to like?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

It takes up a sideboard slot for matchups I'm already favored in and is a 2 drop. I'd rather drop my Masters and just beat them to death.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Not dropping dank meme bombs on people
I bet you wouldn't even board in Boil against Scapeshift when you're on Ponza because "muh favoured matchup".

Playboyize
Playboyize

I thought you were memeing me but of course, prismatic omen

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I was though. Scapeshift shits the bed against Blood Moon, Omen or not. Boil is needless overkill even against blue variants.

Booteefool
Booteefool

All is Dust is pretty much useless against Affinity. There is also the fact that Affinity is just more aggressive.
I played against E-Tron with UW Spirits and won 2-0. Is that relatively normal or was I just lucky? I do run Ceremonious Rejection and Blessed Alliance as a two-of-each in the sideboard, but in both games while I did have to deal with Tron being on, he failed to draw, or at least chose not to play, Cavern of Souls.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Same boat, my man.

Methshot
Methshot

Is there a fun modern reanimator deck?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Obzedat's Vengeance. Obzedat and Flipwalkers are able to circumvent the "exile at end of turn" by exiling themselves temporarily. Also doesn't fold to gravehate.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Grishoalbrand, Vengevine, Dredge, Living End.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Also doesn't fold to gravehate
Aside from the fact that it does.

viagrandad
viagrandad

There's a bunch of them but they're all pretty glass cannon and can get boring quickly after playing them for awhile.
Grishoalbrand, Vengevine, Dredge, Living End are all the main ones.

TechHater
TechHater

am i the only one who sees a v-shaped smily face and giant eye in this art?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Is the the only goblin deck that mediocre 8whack meme deck?

iluvmen
iluvmen

8whack runs pretty much all the non shit Goblins? By calling it mediocre you're just calling Goblins mediocre (which they are).

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

When I can't draw into scavenging ooze

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Sun Titan
Lunar Force
Rule of Law
Why play anything else?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

pretty much all the non shit Goblins
Heh.. not all of them..

SniperGod
SniperGod

I'm playing naya burn next week and i only own two eidolons but i can't decide if i should run two harsh mentor or two shrine of the burning rage with that.
Harsh mentor feels lackluster against anything not affinity but shrine is slow and expensive.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

wow so nonshit, may i present to you tarmogoyf?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Damn, that might even be better than Storm Crow...

TechHater
TechHater

Tarmogoyf doesn't have shit on Goblin Raider, you're crazy.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Playing?

Good old-fashioned Jund.

Hating?

Valakut and Tron

Thoughts on the meta?

Grixis Shadow and Valakut are a little too strong for my liking but it's still relatively healthy right now.

Meme tech?

Shadow of Doubt as a one-of in the board.

Evilember
Evilember

Goyf players piss themselves when they see G. Raider

Illusionz
Illusionz

storm crow might be the shittiest meme i witnessed.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

i just pulled the amonkhet lili, there anything interesting i can do with er in modern?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

You can sell her and get a better card.

Emberfire
Emberfire

oh, she's not that good then? shame.

5mileys
5mileys

She's fine in standard.
Too slow in Modern though since we have 3 mana walkers.

Evilember
Evilember

Correction, we have powerful 3 mana walkers.
Standard has them too but they're nothing compared to something like a LotV

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

yea, but i figure i could power her out with a everflowing chalice.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

So you want to pay 2 mana for something that only adds one colorless?
On top of that, going any higher than the one kick would be even less worth it.

happy_sad
happy_sad

there any other modern manarocks i could power her out with?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

The signets or diamonds are ok

whereismyname
whereismyname

Since Everflowing Chalice was the first thing that came to your mind there's always Mind Stone.
It's just a better EC since it can cycle.

massdebater
massdebater

oh true. that's always good. and if i got the cash i could get last hope lili with the new rules for pwalkers and i could have some good cards for a zombie deck.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

tarmogoyf
requires a graveyard before its a threat
susceptible to graveyard hate
practically zero tribal synergy

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

can we get a virgin goyf and the chad goblin meme?

Inmate
Inmate

ayy, big daddy raider eats little baby goyf for breakfast

Methnerd
Methnerd

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-10-17-esper-eldrazi-control/

Opinions?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

unban eye
No.
Playing
Sultai Reality(strobe) (Demonic)Pact
Meta
It's not where it needs to be. CBV is, as always, way too good.
Meme tech
My entire deck. It unironically runs reality strobe in the mainboard.

cum2soon
cum2soon

hating
see meta. Creatures.

5mileys
5mileys

I say harsh mentor since it'll hurt when they fetch

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

When will they unban eye of Ugin?
Playing?
Bant Eldrazi
Hating?
Anything with tarmogoyf in it
Thoughts on the meta?
DEATH'S SHADOW GET OUT REEEEE
Meme tech?
Thragtusk mainboard for flicker effects.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

DEATH'S SHADOW GET OUT REEEEE
Death's Shadow is a fine magic card.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

what happened to Ad Nauseam?

I have been gone about a year. How did it get displaced from the meta?

happy_sad
happy_sad

I would imagine that Grixis Death's Shadow is a terrible matchup for it since it has both hand disruption and countermagic.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

T1 Hierarch
T2 Thought Knot Seer
T3 Smasher
Reminder that this is almost unbeatable on the play.

idontknow
idontknow

hierarch
The problem was dropping two Mimics T1, then TKS T2 and Smasher T3.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Note how your comment has nothing to do with what I said.

askme
askme

Well fuck you too buddy.

Methnerd
Methnerd

I have a q about the interaction between glorious end and angel’s grace

Say, I play a glorious end to fuck my opponet’s turn over, and I go through my last turn and I get to the one where I’m going to loose at end step. Can I play angel’s grace to negate the “ loose the game at end step” thing permanently or will it just happen at the next end step of the next turn?

eGremlin
eGremlin

If I can't lose the game, can I lose the game?
Glorious End won't wait until you can lose the game, it'll simply try to make you lose the game when it says it will. If something stops you losing the game, then you don't lose the game.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

If you manage to somehow stop Glorious End from killing you the first time, it doesn't trigger again.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up, I just found a jank combo

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

push/bolt the hierarch
wow such an oppressive deck. Who even plays bant eldrazi anymore?

Soft_member
Soft_member

push/bolt the hierarch
Reminds me of a thought I had lately. There's 3 kinds of good decks in Modern; T1 Hierarch decks, T1 Thoughtseize decks, and uninteractive decks.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

With opt in the format what's the split for Grixis shadows? 4 wraith, 4 serum. 4 opt or 4 sleight?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

It will always be serum/scour. The deck needs the graveyard fuel.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Have you ever thought of Lost Legacy? You can use it against combo to take away their pieces or against yourself to tutor up your Scourges.
What I'm wondering is why you have Sire of Stagnation. It seems too slow. But if it isn't, I'm wondering if you should cut Unclaimed Territory, get a full set of Cavern of Souls, and play Ghost Quarter for Colorless mana, land hate, and to help Sire get quasi-Landfall triggers.
If you're feeling confident about getting Colorless mana by turn 2, maybe replace something for them as they provide anti-LotV tech, countering, ramp, and removal.
Other than that, I have to admit that I have no confidence in your deck either way, but there are decks that exist that look janky on paper, but work out anyways.

Any more memes?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How could you possibly have a turn 2 TKS after playing a Noble Hierarch turn 1?
Double Temple is the way to have a TKS on turn 2 and it only taps for colorless mana...

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

T1 noble
T2 temple the tks

King_Martha
King_Martha

Stop posting.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Yeah, I got that now.
I'm shit at math and wasn't taking the fact that NH taps for mana into account.

askme
askme

Never.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Found a better OP image

Techpill
Techpill

The reason I have Sire in there atm, is because I have no fucking clue what to put in those last 2 slots. In my play experience the deck can actually hold it's own for the most part, the main problem it runs into is it lacks card generation.

I like the suggestion of ghost quarters though. More ways to force my opponent to give me cards is good if I keep Sire in there.

The alternative I was considering was Endbringer. It wouldn't require the land drops in order to generate cards, but that might put too much strain on the colorless mana requirements when displacer is on the field.

whereismyname
whereismyname

That looks pretty fun user. Think i'll build it for the kitchen table. One thing i've found building jank eldrazi decks is that Pathrazer is a damn good beat stick. A fun-of might be a good choice. Artisan also serves as subpar recursion.Thought-scour helps fuels the processors, too

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Hello from veekyforums.com/thread/55735273/games

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

O shit, I didn't realize there was a second thread. Thanks user

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Those threads are a blessing

eGremlin
eGremlin

Turn 1: your hand gets stripped from a key card a lot of the times. Since you need critters+enchantments to do something relevant, kerping eg. 1 creature hands are super soft to this. You have no relevant plays t1 so you give control a free turn to establish. You need 3 turns or some such to create a decent beater, while eg. deaths shadow drops a bigger critter for one black and has removal + counter backup.
I dont play lgs fnm so in your meta you might be good though.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Yeah, a lot of non-shit goblins don't see inclusion in the modern goblin meta...

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

It should have haste

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

tfw Spike Jester doesn't have two toughness

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

It seems you have the discard/kill/moon package all right but your creatures seem lackluster as finishers. Stormbreath Dragon, rabblemaster and inferno titan are great finishers filling different red colored cmc slots. If you want to go black, the way is with vampires, use 1-2 Mutavault and then go for Bloodline Keeper, Kalitas, gatekeeper of malakir and Vampire Nocturnus (As a singleton)

whereismyname
whereismyname

The first time i saw thought knot i thought it looked very ugly, but after getting battered by it some times, i have to say it looks pretty beautiful.

askme
askme

mfw this is my real face and the eyeball-torso is merely a speghetti feature

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

What sound does it make???

Supergrass
Supergrass

REEEEEEE

w8t4u
w8t4u

Their hand is 2 land and 3 Misthollow Griffins

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I've been playing 8rack for years now and never paid much attention to the bans, but I want to make a tier1 deck since my brother made an affinity deck and we want to have gud matches. How likely are either eldrazi tron or grixis death shadow to get the banhammer? I don't feel like wasting hundreds of dollars just to have some cards banned and the deck dead

Nojokur
Nojokur

No one here can actually know (and if they do, they definitely can't say), but I don't think either are likely to see a banning anytime soon.

The worry is that they'll ban something right before the Pro Tour just to shake things up, but they said they won't do that, so...

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Also, keep in mind that decks rarely outright die from a banning. They can drop out of Tier 1, but they tend to still be viable choices.

5mileys
5mileys

laughs in non-euclidean

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

thanks, I was eyeing those two decks and maybe dredge, but it's just too inconsistent from what I experienced trying it out online. with grixis I don't even like death's shadow proper, but that ub control shell makes me moist and I have most of the black cards for it already

TreeEater
TreeEater

UB Control
If it works for you then do your thing, but control in Modern is U/W and Jeskai right now.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

aye I know, I've been looking at the meta for weeks now trying to decide what to get since my birthday is coming up, I do like control a lot but I can't stand white, just not my thing

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Faeries

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Bitterblossom or pack rat for a grindy BE deck? I'm worried about the life loss but it seems like BB might be good in this meta?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

BE?

farquit
farquit

God damn it autocorrect. BR not BE

hairygrape
hairygrape

Well in a vacuum I'd say Bitterblossom because losing 1 life is generally better than losing a card (and having to pay mana for the privilege)

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Well, pack rat makes top decked lands good, same with excess blood moons. But BB plays nicer with Damnation and with stalling the game like a control deck

massdebater
massdebater

Matchup-wise, BB is good against Grixis Death's Shadow, Affinity, and control (if you can get it to stick) and terrible against Burn. Neither are going to be good against combo decks.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Which do you think is better against tron? BB let's me spend my turn 3 casting blood moon instead of a pack rat that will get blown out by walking ballista.

happy_sad
happy_sad

I wouldn't want either desu. Even with a Blood Moon in play, Tron is just going to be topdecking bigger and better things.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Do you have a suggestion other than "give up vs tron"?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Not really. The way to beat Tron is to race it. You could construct a control / prison deck specifically to counter Tron, but that would leave you soft to the rest of the field.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

what is Death & Taxes

likme
likme

Well that's how I'm trying to evaluate the choice right now. Which races tron better.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I mean, of the two, Pack Rat.

Techpill
Techpill

BB is autonomous though, so I can spend my turns casting blood moon, and K command and Loli and other creatures

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Sure, but Tron just isn't going to care about 1/1 fliers when they are casting things like Reality Smasher.

FastChef
FastChef

and Loli
ayy lmao

Bidwell
Bidwell

And they are going to care about my 2 2/2s?

The only thing that stops reality smasher is blood moon to take them off colorless long enough for me to gut their hand and hope

Evilember
Evilember

Playing
Lantern
Hating
Nothing really
Meta
Seems pretty decent for now, expecting no changes for B&R list

How Is Grishoalbrand in the meta right now? And is it worth picking up soon with no reprints in sight for Goryo's Vengeance and Through the Breach?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Daily reminder that it was Fatal Push and tier 1 shifting towards 20 discard/kill spells, Chalice for 1 and faster solitaire Goldfish.dec that killed Infect, not banning Probe. Probe was training wheels for anyone who knew what was going on in the format and turn 2 kills involving Become Immense are rare with or without it.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

A shit pile.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

All those fucking cards and everyone plays the same goddamned deck . . .

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Tron player detected

Inmate
Inmate

You have this same exact retort every time and it still doesn't make any sense. The deck is bad, whether one matchup is that way or another.

viagrandad
viagrandad

everyone that replies to me is the same person
In what way is the deck bad?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Because the disparity in power level between all of those cards is just too damn high.

Techpill
Techpill

Its almost like the best cards are the ones used in competitive formats

Lunatick
Lunatick

thot-banishing bump

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Atarka's Command or Skullcrack?
I already have a Stomping Ground on my deck for Destructive Revelry, but Command honestly doesn't seem worth it

Snarelure
Snarelure

What are you talking about? Modern is incredibly diverse. Some cards are going to see more play as staples because they are simply more powerful / efficient than other options.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Burn moved away from Command and towards Skullcrack a while ago.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Command is only worth it when you run 16+ creatures including 4 Nacatl, which is a bad card in eldrazi, death's shadow and uw control: the meta. The good stock atm is 19 lands 1 Lavamancer 4 Skullcrack, 4 Helix and the other basic 4-ofs.

Techpill
Techpill

Kalitas, Olivia, and Dark Dwellers seem relatively fine as curve toppers as is. I considered gatekeeper but my 3 drop is incredibly clocked right now between Lili, Bloodmoon, and K Command. Asylum Visitor is primarily card advantage and basically wins the game once she's online, IF she gets online. Gifted Aetherborn has been in a very strange "does his job but never amazes"

Mutavault with blood moon seems like a bad idea

Pack Rat just doesn't do it for me. I feel like any matchup that has actually taken long enough for pack rat to come into action is a matchup that pack rat won't be enough to win unless I have 9 lands in play and an asylum visitor and can play 3 a round

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Thoughts on T1 Eldrazi Mimic in E-Tron?

farquit
farquit

Having to pay actual mana for Mimic makes it a lot less exciting.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Mimic goes in Eldrazi Stompy. It's more aggressive than what e-tron is really trying to be.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Just unpacked a Liliana of the Veil
What's the cheapest deck that uses her 1x or 2x? Mono Black Pack Rat?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

death's shadow

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Classic Jund

Emberfire
Emberfire

You could probably build 8-rack. It would rather have 4, but you could replace the ones you don't have with a couple other discard or kill spells.

TechHater
TechHater

Are there any good simic decks out there that are semi-viable in modern?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I'm a poor college student with a very limited budget, and I don't think I'll be building any of those soon. I think I'm just gonna sell it and buy some Shocks and Fetches to build janky decks with decent manabase.
Thanks for the answers though

Lunatick
Lunatick

Undying-Evolve?
Infect?
UG Emerge?
Undying-Evolve is pretty much "Pongify Undying creatures to evolve your dudes and get a big stompy board". Not much interaction.
I only seen UG Emerge personally in action. It's alright since it's a ramp deck that can start to get out of control on Turn 3.

massdebater
massdebater

bogles with Invisible Stalker

Firespawn
Firespawn

Is this a meme? What's the point when you're giving your 1 mana bogle trample anyway.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

to get around blocking deaths shadows

Methnerd
Methnerd

Give it flying or protection from creatures.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Not neccesarily, even with 12 creatures (13 if you run a lavaman) it's amazing. The clean manabase of Boros will net you a huge life buffer in combination with Helix, but the upside of a painful Naya manabase is that your Skullcrack spell can often do 4+ damage.

takes2long
takes2long

Which is the best deck to consistently cast Emrakul?

Spamalot
Spamalot

KCI Combo maybe?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Tooth and Nail
Through the breach
Possibility Storm

Emberfire
Emberfire

GR ramp with utopia Sprawl, blood moon, Simian Spirit Guides, and gigantic eldrazi??

How does Possibility Storm work?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

ramp into Possibility Storm
retain priority, cast Endless One for 0
flick through your deck until you find your only other creature, Emrakul
cast your uncounterable Emrakul and take an extra turn

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

happen to have your one other creature in your deck
What if this was a gifts package? ramp to gifts, then possibility storm, fetch out 4 different 0 drop creatures (endless one, ornithopter, memnite...??) and that fetches out emrakrul?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Then you would pretty much have to gifts before casting possibility storm, otherwise you could hit one of the other zero drops.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Well, yeah, but how could you possibly ensure you both have your 0 drop in hand, and not have emrakrul?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Without using the gifts package that is

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I think there's a reason this deck isn't actually played.

Bidwell
Bidwell

That could work. The redundancy for Endless One is Tolaria West via Transmute.
Feel free to try. The Possibility Storm deck isn't too expensive aside from landbase, but if you want a more reliable deck it may be best to get things like Batterskull as an alternate win-con (Batterskull isn't a creature and can be hit off of Possibility Storm with an artifact.)

One thing to know about Possibility Storm is that it's jank, but you get to do stupid things.

Techpill
Techpill

You mean other than through the breach and Nahiri just being more robust?

FastChef
FastChef

You can always play UR, play a bunch of Draw and Discard effects at instant speed while playing the control game looking for Endless One + Possibility Storm.
Then when you're ready IF you ever get Emmy in your hand you just discard it so it goes back to the deck.

I think it's worth trying, Faggot Olive has a primer and videos on it

viagrandad
viagrandad

T. Affinityfag

Emberburn
Emberburn

implying Affinity cares about those things
Affinity wants Stony Silence, Kataki, Lingering Souls, and K-Command gone.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

kataki is utter cancer

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

On the bright side, it's easy to kill with Grid.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

not if they turn 2 it and kill 4 cards with it

TreeEater
TreeEater

Well sure. If they've got it they've got it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why would affinity care about any of that? The only thing us normal humans and not robots fear is board wipes and bounces.

farquit
farquit

play against Ad Nauseam
they cast Hurkyl's
immediately redeploy entire board
It's kinda fun when it's just a fog.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

The cool thing about emrakul is you can discard it with tormenting voice, and it shuffkes back in with your library

its tier 3 for a reason user

w8t4u
w8t4u

That's why Ad nauseam would need to either go off the following turn or angels grace/unlife to buy time.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How would I go about splashig black in soul sisters? If I run lingering souls over spectral procession would I need fetches and shocks or would fast and check lands do?

Anything else thats worth the black splash?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

This card needs a reprint.

RavySnake
RavySnake

They were desperately buying time against a lethal board and did not win the game.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I destroy your planeswalker
Okay, I blow up your land
Sounds fun.

5mileys
5mileys

a. destroy the enchantment
b. lightning bolt the walker
c. play fair and attack the walker
d. play fair and ignore the walker

It's a really fun and strong card. Lots of ways to deal with it desu.

farquit
farquit

play affinity
board that in
shatterstorm now also wipes their lands

hhmmmmm

w8t4u
w8t4u

affinity sideboarding a slow enchantment against the weakest artifact hate card there is

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Okay then what does it actually beat?

abrupt decay
terminate
ghost quarter
fatal push

I guess fatal push. but not well, cause you need to play it on 3, that means if you're gonna protect a creature it's gonna be vulnerable to instant speed unless you play no creatures until after you drop your brick enchantment

Basically it's a piece of shit in modern because destroy effects are scarce

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

make a blue moon control deck with kozilek's return. he can eat snapcaster.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Read the card dude

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Is there a deck tracker app on android that you can use to show remaining cards left and percentages of drawing them?

likme
likme

Here me out lads. I know it's not exactly competitive but I have modern staples for so many decks Andrew I draft so much I always try to squeeze janky cards into the format. Today's culprit is metallurgical summonings.

mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-91-31-tix-modern-ur-summonings

Here's the thing. I'm not on any kind of budget restraints so I would like to make some upgrades with your solid advice. First thing was to get shocks and fetches. Add snapcaster and some cryptic commands. It's been really fun so far but I actually think esper would better. Path and blessed alliance can keep me alive in the early game. Esper charm for mid game as well as being great once summonings hits the field. Maybe a sphinxes relation. Most notably there is a black delve spell that makes x zombies were x is the number of cards I delve.

Anyways. In conclusion. Gimme some ideas of what to run and maybe some help with a land base would be nice.

Illusionz
Illusionz

m.youtube.com/watch?v=mF4CnX2dwrU

Found this. Might go back on the negates and anger of gods for remands/mana leak and I'd like to squeeze in some more cantrips

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yeah but the keyword is painful manabase in a format with 1 mana 6/6 and 10/10s and turn 2 4/4s with painless Thoughtseize. Even vs something like Merfolk you just end up dead to spreading seas locking you out of either green or white and getting bashed with 2-3 lords.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Kitty burn for life

happy_sad
happy_sad

Do not reply to tripfags.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

42 bucks for a foil bitterblossom
I wish I knew someone I could borrow from for a night before hitting buy

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

you forgot chalice, mox opal and grapeshot. :^)

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Dead thread

Someone explain the appeal of a linear, non interactive aggro deck that either wins by turn 4 or loses. Is it just the win rate?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Because people like to play proactive game plans and win the game. It's like saying "what's the appeal of Zergling rushing? why would you wanna win that fast"

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I'll have you know the appeal of 6pool is in trolling not it's actual win rate. Same with cannon rushing

Soft_member
Soft_member

It's fun to try to sequence your cards to kill your opponent as fast as possible, trying to play around whatever answers they might have.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Someone explain to me why people think there particular style of playing a game designed for actual children makes them any less or more intelligent than other play styles for the same children's game.

To answer your question. The aim of the game is to get your opponents life total to 0. So playing faster than your opponent gives you an edge as well as having a linear strategy helps reduce variance. The question you should be asking is, how comes the game design favours linear aggro? The answer is pretty fucking simple. It's a game, for children.

Techpill
Techpill

game for children
tournament age average is 20-40

You brainlets should start using the 2 braincells you have.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Dana Fischer is six years old
plays the game better than 90% of the player base
Sorry, you're right. It's a game for retarded adults.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Sammy Reshevsky used to play chess better than 90% adults
chess is a game for children

So....this is.....the power of......mental retardation......

woah.........

Spamalot
Spamalot

It's a slide between play variance and deck variance. People want to be responsible for their victories and losses, because if your deck is almost solved,then every loss will feel like mana screw/flood

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

autumnthunder17 asked: About the possible upcoming change to the planeswalker redirection rule, why now?

If we think a change is warranted sooner is better than later.

markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/166160319923/about-the-possible-upcoming-change-to-the

mrmoustachemm asked: Why am I finding out about the planeswalker redirection rule change here and not on the official site? Something this huge should have been announced in an article on your website.

It hasn’t actually happened yet. It got “leaked” ahead of time because Magic The Gathering Arena cards had the new template.When the rule is actually changing, we will have a full article detailing everything.

markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/166164505883/why-am-i-finding-out-about-the-planeswalker

Planeswalker damage redirection rule change is coming, so do you think its going to affect modern somehow?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

any target
but it can't target artifacts, lands, or enchantment
unless it says you can
any is now a keyword and doesn't mean any
What the fuck kind of drugs are these people on?

FastChef
FastChef

Troll harder.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

somthing tells me the reason this is happening is that WToC has placed too much focus on pwalkers so they wanna give us people in the older (and sane) formats ways of dealing with them better.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

give us people in the older (and sane) formats ways of dealing with them better
There is zero reason to believe that after years of neglect that they suddenly give a fuck about people who play the older formats. The severe lack of fucks they give and this is their olive branch? Unlikely.

If anything at all they're streamlining something for Commander. Or Standard. Or their fucking online product which I'm sure is a wretched pile of code.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

why do they never give a fuck about the older formats?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Because Standard and Draft drive sales of new sets and older formats rarely do. They only care about older formats when it comes to selling the limited run sets.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Timmy plays limited. He buys 3 booster packs every Friday to play games of limited.
Jimmy plays standard. He buys a fatpack every 9 month standard rotation to play games of standard.
Billy plays modern. He doesn't buy as much sealed product as Jimmy and Timmy. Fuck you Billy.

-t. WotC

MPmaster
MPmaster

So is this relevant to any card besides Leyline?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

billy doesn't give me any money
somehow I should care about him

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Reprint shit and people would buy them.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Why reprint shit when I can print a page of mox opals every other month and sell it to the secondary market while pretenting I'm a store owner?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Proofs ?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Until the change becomes official, its hard to know for sure.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

they will probably make some bolts that either sya player or planeswalker, this might actually give new good way of interacting with planeswalkers, but probably not. Retroactively doesn't do much, we will have to see what happens to stuff like earthquake.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Not my fault you are literally retarded.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I'll be surprised if we see any cards that can target only players but not Planeswalkers to avoid having this problem come up - You don't want new players to have to navigate the minefield of "Target creature or player" actually means "Target creature or player or planeswalker" except when it doesn't.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I dunno, maybe they just did it for wording as you are saying, but i doubt they will skip the chance of making planeswalkers even harder to deal with.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Doesn't seem to have much of a point for modern, you can't make a cheaper bolt and I don't see many decks running a set of R:deal 3 damage to target creature or planeswalker over helix.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

maybe we could have more stuff like dreadbore at instant speed.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

That's not trolling harder, that's trolling at about the same intensity.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Anyone here running non-competitve/budget decks?

idontknow
idontknow

playing
Grixis Death's Shadow
hating
Eh, nothing really
Thoughts on the meta
Seems fine. Eldrazi, Tron, and Eldrazi/Tron are annoying

Loving GDS. Bought into it a few days ago. Love how grindy it is, and I think it's cool that Grixis' grind is in the limelight and popular at the moment.

Really dig playing it like a combo deck (Temur Battle Rage), but am looking for ways to make it even grindier/attrition oriented. LotV and Collective Brutality seem like obvious choices but:

money

DeathDog
DeathDog

gds
condemn, thats a card to hate.

Emberfire
Emberfire

non-competitive
in a competitive thread

RumChicken
RumChicken

when will they unban eye of degeneracy
fucking never I hope. eldrazi were a mistake

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I guess... Fetches can help mitigate it.

The U/W Control matchup is so fun. Sometimes I'll cast Fatal Push on a DS to protect it from Path. Pretty funny. Usually isn't a big deal with Snapcasters on standby for Colonnades.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

They should ban temple of Tron lands desu

RavySnake
RavySnake

E-tron is arguably the best deck (either that or Grixis Death's Shadow), but it isn't dominating the format like the Eldrazi Winter decks. Nothing needs to be banned.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I personally don't mind because it's generally not an awful matchup for burn but turn 2 TKS or turn 3 Karn is absolute degeneracy

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I would think that Chalice on 1 would basically be gg for Burn, at least game one.
turn 2 TKS or turn 3 Karn is absolute degeneracy
I mean, in a vacuum, but compared to what other decks in the format do it's not really that bad.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Just fuck the chalice

T. Elves players

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

It's really not, burn still has plenty of cmc 2 burn
What can other decks do? This isn't legacy

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

what can other decks do?
Storm can cast a lethal Grapeshot as soon as turn 3, Grixis Death's Shadow is casting 5/5s for 1 mana, Affinity rocks Tron's world even with a Karn, etc.

TechHater
TechHater

Why do scrubs even bitch about Karn? He doesnt do anything to win the game. Ugin on the other hand...

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Grixis is fair because it needs to fuck with their life to do that
Storm can't do that unless they have an easy to remove creature in play
Affinity is good old beatdown and there's a ton of artifact hate that can deal with it
Tron is the only deck with close to no disadvantages

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Tron is the only deck with close to no disadvantages
Nonbasic land hate, can't race the aggressive decks of the format. If Tron had no disadvantages then it would take over the format, but it hasn't.

idontknow
idontknow

can't race aggressive decks
It sure as hell can with chalice
Nonbasic land hate
Land hate isn't prevalent in modern at all
If Tron had no disadvantages then it would take over the format
Something like 9-10% of decks are some form of Tron. Are you saying it hasn't?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

It sure as hell can with chalice
Not really. Against Affinity their best hope is to be on the play and have chalice on 0, but even that frequently just isn't good enough. Against Merfolk all hope is lost (especially since they also have land hate).
Land hate isn't prevalent in modern at all
Which lends credence to the notion that Tron has not taken over the format. Ghost Quarter, Spreading Seas, Smallpox, Blood Moon, etc. all exist.
Something like 9-10% of decks are some form of Tron.
Which would mean something like 90-91% of decks aren't.
Are you saying it hasn't?
Correct. A Tier 0 deck would have a share comparable to all Tier 1 decks combined, like what we saw before Eye of Ugin was banned. E-Tron is only around 6-7% of the format, with many other decks being around 4-5%.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Tron shits on itself especially against aggro decks. It also does horribly against Storm.

And here's my newest jank meme tech. Free Elder Deep Fiends have to be good somewhere.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

we need this for Urza & Mishra

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Modern Viable?

There's 12 disruptive creatures in Mausoleum Wanderer, Judge's Familiar, and Siren Storm Caller. Think that's enough fuel for Scarab god?

Illusionz
Illusionz

At 5 cmc and with Path and plenty of graveyard hate in the format, I kinda doubt it.

5mileys
5mileys

Especially fitting with Mishra cucking Urza.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

only 90-91% means talking over the format
Twin was banned for much less than that and that's the reason wizards gave

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Twin was 12% right before it got banned and was higher than that at times previous. Tron variants combined aren't that high.

Illusionz
Illusionz

only 90-91% means talking over the format
I didn't say that.
Twin was banned for much less than that and that's the reason wizards gave
It wasn't.
"Antonio Del Moral León won Pro Tour Fate Reforged playing Splinter Twin, and Jelger Wiegersma finished third; Splinter Twin has won two of the four Modern Pro Tours. Splinter Twin reached the Top 8 of the last six Modern Grand Prix. The last Modern Grand Prix in Pittsburgh had three Splinter Twin decks in the Top 8, including Alex Bianchi's winning deck.

Decks that are this strong can hurt diversity by pushing the decks that it defeats out of competition. They can also reduce diversity by supplanting similar decks. For instance, Shaun McLaren won Pro Tour Born of the Gods playing this Jeskai control deck. Alex Bianchi won our most recent Modern Grand Prix playing a similar deck but adding the Splinter Twin combination. Similarly, Temur Tempo used to see play at high-level events but has been supplanted by Temur Twin.

We considered what one would do with the cards from a Splinter Twin deck with Splinter Twin banned. In the case of some Jeskai or Temur, there are very similar decks to build. In other cases, there is Kiki-Jiki as a replacement.

In the interest of competitive diversity, Splinter Twin is banned from Modern."

E-Tron has not won any Modern Pro-Tours, because there haven't been any since it has started existing. Tron did not reach top 8 at the last SCG Modern Open or GP. Midrange and Control decks, which Tron preys upon, exist at decent levels. I don't know what similar deck Tron is keeping out of the format.

SniperWish
SniperWish

I can't use Artisan because I have RIP as a 4 of main board. Pathrazer is also too expensive mana cost wise. I can't really think of anything I would replace for thought scour.

I actually decided to go with Endbringer as a 3 of. It gives me plenty of useful effects.
can remove x/1 creatures for free
can trade with creatures of 6 toughness at least
can prevent anything bigger from attacking
can draw me cards
at 0 untapped mana, it's still a creature with vigilance.

The bulky body and dodging push are a really big help too. It's also an additional threat worth hitting with removal, which is a pretty big deal considering the only other creature in that category is Displacer.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Hierarch
TKS
Reality Smasher
unbeatable

:)

massdebater
massdebater

Wouldn't it be better to play some ramp and basic fetch elves to emerge from? Like with

Also Elder Deep-Fiend requires at least UU to cast.
You may sacrifice a creature with converted mana cost greater than or equal to the emerge cost. If you do, you’ll pay only the colored mana component of the emerge cost.
It does syngergize perfectly with Thragtusk, though, and Kitchen Finks is not a bad emerge target, either.

Speaking of Cryptic Serpent it seems powerful in theory. Why aren't cost-reducing serpents good enough for Modern?

Seems too slow, but if you can somehow slam it down maybe it can help you enough to put your opponent in trouble. Dredge isn't as popular as it used to be, but Storm is, so gravehate is still a thing.

Ulamog's Crusher is the cheapest annihilator Eldrazi.
Keep me updated.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Ulamog's crusher is the cheapest Annihilator Eldrazi
Sorry my friend, but you're wrong.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Fair enough.

For the sake of fun, how could I force It that Betrays to work? It seems too "win-more", but it looks so fucking cool!
The only other Eldrazi that I'm considering forcing to work is Void Winnower because I like the reaction I get when my opponent can't even

Evilember
Evilember

Mulldrifter deserves a slot imo, the evoke tech is too cute. Frost titan seems really out of place too, he's not a bad card but literally has zero synergy with the deck (would prefer a topend threat that is more etb-effect heavy in case Deep Fiend eats it)

Frost titan is sicknasty in that Eminent Domain deck

Spamalot
Spamalot

Void Winnower is actually solid fuckin sideboard tech in Elfdritch Elvolution (Allosaurus Rider + Evo)

got Iona+Terrastadon mainboard with Winnower, Hornet Queen and Elesh in the sideboard.

It's a memelist but turn 2 Iona is a hell of a drug.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Playing
pic related
Hating
E Temple because it should be banned
Thoughts on the Meta
Fairly healthy, wouldn't change much
Meme Tech
I'm running Warp World, it's all meme tech

Bidwell
Bidwell

The best part about casting Warp World is when you punch your opponent in the face

JunkTop
JunkTop

The best part of casting Warp World is the look of confusion on anyone's face watching it resolve