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>What's the fastest deck you own? Have any plans to build something that can go super-fast?
I have a Mayael deck which gets going on turn 4 pretty steadily. Not Magic Christmas Land amazing, but fast enough I usually become the Archenemy right away. I was actually aiming for a lower power level with it, but that didn't really happen.
Josiah Murphy
Working on Mardu color deck with a focus on wrecking people's attempts at being cheeky. Seems like the best colors to clear out annoying artifacts and more. Like "oh don't do that, I can sac this to sac this and prevent what you're going to do" kind of stuff.
Leo Hill
>Thread question
Hudson Sullivan
someone do the virgin Chad meme with Mishra cucking Urza
Brandon Reed
>Thread question My Dralnu deck has won on turn 4 before, but that was a fluke. Tough part is now I get absolutely pounded when I bring that out, which makes me want to win on turn 4 consistently with it just to prove a point
Mason Hernandez
>Tivadar has 2 power >meta currently has both Worts, Zada, Shattergang and Mizzix Welp, gonna have to find space in Alesha. I really should get a Corpse Connoisseur in there too.
Carter Myers
>What's the fastest deck you own? Have any plans to build something that can go super-fast? I have a Hidetsugu deck that can power out quick wins sometimes, but it's usually more of a consistent, simmering burn than an explosive combo deck.
I will build a Sidisi ANT deck someday. I already have a lot of the cards including fast mana, extra tutors, backup combos, and Thoughtseize-alikes to snipe counter spells. I just don't have a Tendrils of Agony or the will to build a meme deck right now. I also like the people at my FLGS too much to spring that shit on them.
Dominic Perry
I won on turn 2 with a serra ascendant and a bloodmoon. There was a mana flare out and I had a Red elemental blast for animar. The mana flare player scooped because he couldnt do anything with 8 red mana and the prossh players only basic out at the time was mountain.
Camden Sanchez
My Inalla deck has gotten pretty fucking fast with all the access to fast mana and all the best tutors
Christopher Phillips
Thinking of making a deck funstuff with both of these dudes in it
Should I get commissions to change the art on both to Kuzco and Yzma?
Joseph Diaz
Teysa has three ways to win turn 2, they're hard but when it happens it happens. Also have Turn 3 Hermit Druid but that's tryhard shit I only ever play at "tournaments", and only because there's always people teaming up. Cheaters don't desserve pity.
Brandon Kelly
Best mindcrank combo?
John Kelly
I don't get how this could be useful outside of against lifegain decks
Luis Miller
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Connor Cox
Bloodchief Ascension
Matthew Ortiz
If you play deckout, you can get some mill out of some attacks.
Nicholas Sanders
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Alexander Harris
You want a target rich environment?
Jonathan Morales
fug
Gabriel Myers
>thread question Breya also can anyone give me feedback on this tasigur brew I made up? Not entirely original but would appreciate anything
Also have a story to share from Saturday >playing with usual group and some new guy >new guy isn't particularly good making decks with janky wincons and heavy misplays and an obsession with cards that look like penises >regular guy in group who we will call "D" says he's gonna break out his "friendship destroyer" deck >offer to let us look through the deck >its oloro "boardwipe" tribal >he's says its undefeated and he runs no tutors >game is going slow not because of boardwipes but due to new guy playing the great aurora after a boardwipe >eventually everyone gets back to pace and other guy who is playing Teysa enchantments gets out black market that generates alot of mana because "boardwipe tribal is too strong" >casts death grasp targetting oloro who responds with a counterspell >flash in mystic snake to counter his counter >gets fed up and says everyone teamed up against him because his deck waa too awesome and we couldn't handle his "sick bants and strategic deckbuilding" >mfw he lost all games that night
Dominic Bennett
:DDD
Josiah Johnson
Quick, /edh/, give me your spiciest and weirdest Alesha tech.
Nightmare mode: For 1v1
Jason Sanders
>scarab god is 50 bucks now
Carter Hernandez
Its only $40 on tcgplayer so fuck off (You)
Zachary Nguyen
Exquisite blood+cliffhaven vampire
Nathan Gray
>parents need a birthday list from me because they have absolutely no clue on what I want. They want to get me something I'll actually use and not just chuck in storage. >I don't really have any major needs or wants other than this shit >start making a list of cards that I want but have trouble buying >have trouble asking for 20+ dollar pieces of cardboard.
Brayden Jackson
>Traded one to me a week after prerelease Got it as my commander I guess >Want some cards a drafter opened after FNM >value about ~4$, so traded it for my pack >He cracks the pack >Open Scrub God The more I think of that incident, the more I regret it.
Josiah Cooper
It wont be expensive forever. It's just hot shit in standard.
Austin Myers
But I also have all the pieces for Sultai Energy, except Scrub Gods and Hostage Taker
Austin Parker
Thought Gorger is fucking ballertime.
>pitch a full hand for an attaking 9/9 trampler for B/W--B/W >dies and refills your hand
Ayden Cook
>Exquisite blood+cliffhaven vampire
Too specific and those cards aren't good on their own.
Worth a try. I have one.
Joshua Jenkins
Ask for accessories. My mom bought me the Pirate Lab Small Card Case for christsmass last year and it's the best bag I've ever had for moving decks around.
Leo Miller
You're killing me with these reaction faces user.
Jordan Wood
>Thread question I have a food chain Prossh deck thats disgustingly fast for being built on a sub $200 budget
Lucas Fisher
If you have Vorinclex and Mana Reflection on your field, which triggers first?
Do you choose the order even if its not your turn?
Adrian Robinson
Your lands effectively tap for three. I don't think the stack is involved at any point.
Evan Stewart
Mana reflection is a replacement effect that doubles the mana tapped for. Vorinclex adds an additional mana outside that.
Kayden Gray
vorinclex has a trigger, but its a mana ability and doesnt use the stack
mana reflection is a replacement effect that alters, specifically, the mana you create "if you tap a permanent for mana", which is just the 1 from your land still, vorinclex's ability is the source of the other 1
the mana ability of the land resolves but is replaced to double its normal amount, then vorinclex immediately triggers and immediately resolves adding an additional one to the pool
for a normal land this will result in in tapping for 3, but stuff like gaea's cradle gets doubled, then given +1
Michael Rivera
Mana Reflection is a replacement effect and Vorinclex is a triggered ability. Mana Reflection will apply automatically the the land's ability, then Vorinclex will trigger. You'll get the two mana from the land first, because mana abilities don't use the stack, then you'll get one from Vorinclex.
Dylan Davis
Thanks anons
And thank you for that example, I was about to ask that same question with a Karoo land
Matthew Flores
Mana Reflection is a replacement effect, not a triggered ability and Vorinclex is a triggered ability. Tapping a forest will result in you getting three mana, barring any additional effects.
Oliver Nelson
is vampiric/demonic tutor worth it?
Bentley Hall
Best commander for mono-blue high tide storm/combo that's not JVP or Teferi?
Justin Bell
depends on the type of player you are
Charles Hill
Are you a tryhard attempting to tutor combo pieces, then yes. If not, it doesn't really matter but generally tutors are good.
Luis Sanders
im trying to make my mogis enchantress deck better
Josiah Martinez
They will make your deck better.
Josiah Collins
no its not good for that deck, focus on more fun cards
t. mogis player
Samuel Myers
If you're not playing blue or green, yes.
Mason Bell
Then yeah, tutors help make anything better.
Bentley Nelson
should i get no mercy/stranglehold/repurcusion/maralan
Sebastian Lopez
Both creature Teferi and Azami are breddy good combo comanders. I have no experience with Azami but creature teferi is very good at protecting lab man combo.
Jordan Powell
Is Eye of Ugin worth it in Kruphix if I'm only running 4 eldrazi? Obviously it's situationally useful but I've had plenty of times were it's just sort of sat there not doing a whole lot for my game plan. I'm thinking of cutting it for a Homeward Path, as not 1, not 2, but 3 people at my LGS have recently decided the most fun thing ever is playing variations of steal-yo-shit.deck
Aaron Richardson
I like no mercy and stranglehold repercussion is meh since youre only looking to do a gotcha with blasphemous act or something and blocks or whatever but it doesnt have a slot in my deck maralan is counterproductive if youre looking at spiteful visions type effects, plus I dont wanna help infinite combo dicks go off, sure its cute with stranglehold but its pretty fragile since shes a creature and you wont be drawing stranglehold every game unless youre already packed with tutors
so if you wanna do that then more tutors are probably a good idea
Landon Lee
I would run homeward path regardless if its a common thing in your meta to have stuff stolen. Throw in sylvan library and crop rotation and smile smugly.
Colton Harris
Remember it can fetch any colorless creature. That said, it sounds like its an underwhelming tutor for a deck that should have no problem getting what it wants in hand.
Lincoln Sanders
Zada. She regularly wins by turn 5-6.
Brandon Fisher
How does a zada deck win?
Hunter Reed
Poor threat assessment.
Jose Wilson
Lel but seriously, why does she grind the herdons?
Camden Mitchell
Step 1: Get a shitload of mana (Mana Geyser, Brightstone Ritual, Battle Hymn) Step 2: Get a shitload of creatures (Spawning Breath, Make Mischief, Twinflame, Heat Shimmer, all cast on Zada, copying to each other creature), or Krenko, or Chancellor of the Forge Step 3: Draw a shitload of cards, any given single-target buff cantrip will do it, cast on Zada, copied to each creature Step 4: Use the fuckload of single-target pump spells you drew to turn your 1/1 Goblins into double-striking, trampling 11/2's Step 5: If that doesn't work, use Fiery Gambit, Impact Tremors, Purphoros, or just fire your creatures at your opponents with Goblin Bombardment, or use Burn at the Stake
You kinda mix up steps 1-3 depending on how much of each you have at any given time.
Brody King
>she
Luis Nelson
I'm thinking of retiring my Shirei apostles deck in favor of just turning it into mono-black goodstuff. Who's the most fun mono-black commander?
Justin Thompson
Alternatively, infinite combo off with Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame/Heat Shimmer (though that really is just a win by attacking with an arbitrarily large number of creatures) Also throw in Skirk Prospector for the ability to turn Goblins into red mana so you don't end up with a massive board, but no mana to spend.
Jackson Green
Don't worry, I checked.
Dominic Thompson
Lmfao guess his deck was the friendship destroyer after all
Brayden Nguyen
He's never even seen Geth's card
Jayden Wright
I neant sylvan scrying, just noticed my mistake.
Isaac Wood
Alot of people were getting salty aside from myself and the new guy, probably because I won majority of our games and the new guy admitted he is terrible. Oloro guy is always boasting about his decks being masterpieces so its fun to knock him down on occasions
James Hernandez
Thats pretty cool for mono red. Is it fairly consistent? Does it fare decently if zada catches hate?
Camden Hall
>Get a bunch of cards and sleeves in today to build and my brand new deck and edit an older deck >Sleeve up the new deck and realized that 5 of the cards I was sure I had I actually can't find in my collection Luckily my local shop has all of them I can just pick up on my way home tomorrow, the sudden disappointment I felt for a moment after brewing for 3 weeks and the knowledge that a few of my usual friends were willing to play tomorrow as an extra day just so I could test was almost too much.
Nathan Wilson
Fairly, yes, but you can still get fucked. If you don't draw a cantrip or a Wheel you can get pretty screwed.
It can do OK. Mine is in a lower-power group, so I can still run shit like Shared Animosity to buff my tokens, but the more tuned Zada decks are all or nothing on swarm.
I like your style for not trying to go for cutesy combat buffs. You ever try Inner Fire? Awesome ritual after a huge cantrip.
Parker Campbell
Gf bought me the Cat Tribal precon for my birthday, and I'm stumped on which way I want to upgrade it. My gut is telling me Mirri tokens, but I'm not sure.
Nicholas Cook
It's fairly consistent, yeah. I usually pull it out once a night for a quick win to raise my flagging spirits when my others decks are doing awfully.
The increasing commander tax isn't usually too much of a problem. You can usually make a fat board without using Zada's ability, and at that point most of the rituals you'll want to use to win with can certainly afford at least 1, maybe even two castings of Zada.
The real problem is if someone mind-controls her. Then the deck's in REAL trouble. I have won without her though, but that was mostly resorting to standard Goblinball tactics.
Alexander Flores
Reminder that only great honking FAGGOTS don't like drawing cards.
Evan Reed
thanks friend
also, is baneful omen worth it?
price of glory?
Josiah Rogers
>tokens Don't be a bitch, run hatebears
Aaron Smith
Get Megrim, Pain Magnification and Furnace of Rath.
Brody Allen
A friend made his voltron, hate bears with mirri at the helm. It does very well. It comes with some good equipment and supporting creatures already.
Bentley Russell
eh I prefer cards that make the opponent kill themselves, shit like scab-clan berserker, kaevek the merciless, zozu and all that so cards that when an opponent choses to do something like using lands land (mana barbs/ankh of mishra), cast spells (spellshock/painful quandary), or draw (underworld dreams/fate unraveler) they take some burn, and then doubling their value with a dictate of the twin gods or something to really bring the pain out
I keep the ez damage effects to a minimum and only include must-haves for mogis like bloodchief ascension, wound reflection, and obsidian fireheart
as for price of glory I guess its good if youre expecting blue decks or a lot of vedalken orerrys, personally I prefer burning sands and tainted aether
but you could always give them a shot, beneful omens a little too pricy for my taste
Jace Johnson
I like drawing cards. I don't like it when my opponents draw 7 and untap all their lands that they used to cast the fucker.
Storm Count 2.
Grayson Wood
I like drawing cards
nothing gets the blood rushing like untap, draw, land, go ugh every time it makes me horny
Ayden Brown
That's sick
Juan Ortiz
King Macar
Liam Edwards
Great honking faggot detected.
Aiden Butler
>tfw when they try to stop the wheel >tfw 6 floating from planar lens >tfw they can't stop the wheel
Jaxon Jackson
>thread question The fastest deck I owned was a Maralen of the Mournsong deck that aimed to ramp into casting Maralen+protection by turn 3/4 and then using free tutors to assemble one of many two card combos. It wasn't very good (in competitions environment) and it wasn't very fun, so I took it apart. I'm a very casual player, so I haven't played anything much faster.
What commander should I play if I want to alter all 100 cards to art from Berserk? Guts as commander, and going 100% for flavor over competitive viability
Jackson Ortiz
An active Bloodchief Ascension + Mindcrank is a near insta win. Its also a nice extra source of mill in a Lazav deck.
Joseph Reyes
Tq either the new Mirri or g Omnath. Good hand in Omnath means I hardcast ulamog turn four
Asher Morales
My azami deck can do turn 2 though it generally wins closer to turn 4-6 with 3 decently often.
Nicholas Phillips
>Storm Count 2 high-tier lel with this one
Easton Campbell
>mirri hatebears >when the judge foil of this glorious fucker just came out
Alexander Flores
That art is terrible
He looks like a drunkard telling some bemused passers-by about the time he tried to fuck a goat
OG art he looks straight-up fucking wise and well-traveled, like he knows all of the world's secrets, the type of dude you'd want to listen to
Angel Garcia
Agree to disagree, user. I like both arts, but I have a weak spot for promo cards.
Mason Martinez
So I've always wanted to build a deck, regardless of format, that could realistically go into infinite combat phases but it was always unrealistic. After watching my friend play his Brago deck I really want a to build a Jeskai deck that is built for it since those three colors are the most apt for it. Could I realistically run Narset (since Jeskai has almost no fucking commanders) and just hide enough repeating effects and haste enablers to set it up and is it even viable for a casual group? My ideal set up would rely heavily on Brago and Aurelia being out with something like fervor or Hammer of Purphuros, but there seems to be enough creatures to fill those roles as well as long I can get damage through unblocked.
Leo Moore
I'm building a blue/black rogue/assassin themed deck. Would it be bad to run the deck with minimal number of counter spells, like 1-2 of them? Since Vela means lots of unblockable attacks, I'd rather play equipment and such for my attackers to grant lifelink and other player damage effects. Being blue/black, noncreature removal is pretty much handled only by artifacts. I'm really digging the artifact focus though.