Is this image true? Or just satire?

Explain. I was under the impression that hating women was a requirement for being an incel.

Pretty much. Inconveniences build the strongest communities and overtime the players in a community request quality of life improvements that reduce the inconveniences which in turn attracts lower quality players. World of Warcraft is a great example of this.

STOP POSTING THAT PICTURE AND MAKING THE SAME FUCKING STUPID THREAD, YOU DAMN DIRTY MONGOLOID ! NO, IT IS JUST A MEME AND SO ARE YOU ! RAAAAAH

>Drive away all the content creators and roleplayers from the board
>"Now that we've gotten rid of all the people who make fun threads, surely the gap left by their absence will be filled with quality content!"

I don't know what you were expecting.

Sage.

I wouldn't call it degradation, but rather evolution.

no, it's not. A woman might be the cause of a break up in a group, but not a hobby. This was made by some faggot who is angry that he did not get to keep his safespace

>he thinks quests were anything original

That image is a hilarious window into the mind of whatever person made it.

Is 40k at stage 4 or stage 6? Because of all the noise about inclusiveness recently but 8th is dumbed down slop that is only defended with people saying at least its not as bad as 7th or I just play it to get drunk.

It's an oversimplified version of how subcultures develop. Have goths instead, insert baby-bats in place of "girls and dudebros". Have the anonymous, insert... Well, let them be girls and dudebros here. Have video gamers, insert feminists and noobs. Have the otaku, insert the weeaboo. Have the emo, insert the suicidal manchildren who have never heard of sXe. The list goes on.

honestly im not seeing a problem with forcing the neck beard autists out of a group. if all of the sudden all the fat sweaty unwashed mouth breathing sperglords no longer played magic id probably actually go to my LGS on a regular basis

Your fearmongering thread is over here, you false-flagging walking projecting hypocrite.

New. New!

>Females join (...) in an effort not to play the game, but to attract attention
This part should give an idea of how autistic this shit is.

Also douchebag =/= alpha. Joining a game you don´t take seriously just for a chance of getting laid is the opposite to alpha behaviour.

I'd call 40k an antithesis to the entire argument.

The game is older than I am, I'm nearly 30, and it's still a super expensive hobby game that aside from the rules has much the same shape and overall tone it did over two decades ago.

I'll not say that it hasn't changed at all - I still dream of fighting old metalcast guitar-cannon noise marines - but the degradation had been amazingly slow compared to some properties.

assembling and painting toy soldiers so you can make pew pew noises on a table with is an incredibly niche and autistic as fuck and as you say it's expensive it'll never go mainstream

Ah yes because the state of the board is sooo much better without your scapegoat around. Look at all the shitposting that isn't here anymore! Surely all the filename threads; stat me threads; that guy threads; blatant bait threads; SJW bitching threads and the like are MILES better than people actually roleplaying and having fun!

Not a single person who /qst/ is supposedly for actually wanted the damn thing. It's a fucking gulag where quests were herded to die, all thanks to some salty asshole who couldn't stand to see other people actually having fun on the internet in a way he didn't like.

Eh, my gf does gundams.

...i should introduce her to Tau.

Back to your ghetto.

he/she*

>Projecting this hard

Its been a year already since then, get over it and stop crying about it in unrelated threads.

I -miss- quests

>Projecting this hard
I mean, you can just read the thread where the mod introduced /qst/.

The mod who made /qst/ obviously has no idea what questfags wanted (and didn't care), and the majority of the posts in the thread were some variation of "stop trying to make Veeky Forums into your personal board".

archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46945911

* it.

what did he/she mean by this

> unrelated

He just learned the word and wanted to use it.

Ironically, your comment is the least mysoginist, most rational agreement with the original bait image. I didn't envision a salty beta when I read your comment.

It's pretty much 100 percent true, obviously and objectively so. It's happened with every nerd hobby from comics to vidya to tabletop games.
Not sure how anyone here can dispute it, unless they are part of the cancerous elements themselves.

Why not just go post on the quest board? I don't understand what all the whining is about. There is LITERALLY a board for what you want now. It didn't belong here. It isn't a traditional game and it clogged up the board.

Just go to /qst/. It's that easy.

Well, meant that you don't know the gender of the salty asshole so don't assume it, and I meant that you don't gender animals in the English language (unless you're emotionally tied to them) so shouldn't gender the salty asshole either.

your 'gf' isn't typical though a female friend saw my collection and said 'nice dolls' and had a laff

Define a traditional game.

It's a common evolution of many niches hobbies but the guy who made this was a bit corrupted by r9k memes.
Dudebros are just "casuals" (not in a pejorative /v/ way) and most girls are indeed only there because their boyfriends are there too.
Honestly neither the original fanbase or the new one is wrong, they just have different levels of involvement and communauties growing generally become more casual.
A lot of people on Veeky Forums have the same philosophy as r9k but just see themselves as the normies or alphas.
So there is a lot of us vs them, with everyone they dislike being neckbeards, r9k or betas (not getting the point of that worldview being garbage)

You wanna know why? Because we questers didn't WANT the fucking board in the first place! We don't want to be herded off somewhere like political dissidents being pushed into the gulag! And we all know that a totally separate board KILLS incidental traffic for quests; it's like pushing a bunch of specialist shops off the highstreet and expecting them to still do well because, "They have their own space now!" incidental traffic is crucial for quests to remain vibrant and active!

And for your fucking information, quests were as traditional a game as Dungeons and Dragons is. You don't get to fucking arbitrarily decide what is and is not a traditional game based on what you want to see!

The image is a bit overkill, specially when pointing out the types of people who hurt it, but the problem killing any hobby are people there interested more in the social aspects than the game.

>but the problem killing any hobby are people there interested more in the social aspects than the game.

Found the "that guy" grognard elitist.

>social reject from /r9k/
How does one even get rejected from that place?
As far as i can see it's mostly egocentric bitterness and self-loathing.

Gotta keep the feeling that you are better than otherssomehow

A game that is playable without electricity is a traditional game.

I'd be more okay with a Hide and Seek general than quests. They don't belong on this board.

You're right. I don't decide what a traditional game is. The mods do and they decided quests aren't. :^)

These threads are basically mediocre self-proclaimed "normies" circlejerking about muh r9k despite leaking themselves on Veeky Forums nowadays a lot more than r9k itself and overall seem to be worse as people.

>Why not just go post on the quest board? I don't understand what all the whining is about.

Well, it's pretty simple.

>if I tell myself the social aspect of a social game doesn't matter, I can feel less bad about my autism and how it affects others around me

Post actual statistics and not some randomly designated circles.

>MORE interrested in the social aspect of game than the game itself
Let's not it's never a problem instead of strawmaning everyone disagreeing with you.

Why is the orange circle so large compared to the yellow circle? The average quest thread had a way smaller IP count than other threads. Why isn't it only partly inside Veeky Forums, and overlap with a bunch of other circles representing boards like /a/ and /pol/? That's a more accurate representation of the time after moot forced quests, risk games and the like from every board to Veeky Forums

>self-proclaimed "normies"
>"normie" is to: shitpost on an obscure image board about games of make belive.
I think i understand the "social reject" part a little better.

This applies to any niche media in a broad, generalized sense. As something becomes popular, it will be debased and degraded to increase its mass appeal, often resulting in the product petering out. A good example of this were the Crysis games.

Some media is relatively proof. TCGs and PNPs can rarely generate enough broad appeal to encourage the manufacturer to produce degenerate incarnations. Some folks might point at D&D, but the mechanical failure that was 3rd was driven by a need to make a product of their own that they understood, and 4th was radical so the known failures of 3 could be completely discarded, leaving the devs to work with a fresh slate. Of course, both of these editions enraged a previous audience, but it was not a gradual thing.

Not even that, social interaction can happen in many ways, but if you put it ahead of the game, you'll demand it changes to suit your needs. Card games are about the fun of seeing your cards and the opponent ones trying to one up each other, wargaming about armies of minis clashing and RPGs about playing pretend. Sacrificing any of that because it gets in the way of socialising degrades the hobby

There's no such thing. Culture is an inherently communal thing that belongs to whoever uses its individual elements.

>Is this image true? Or just satire?

D&D has been around since 1974. Wargames for even longer.

Everyone here was someone else's hobby-ruining interloper or atention-whore or clueless noob at one point.

Yeah, things were never the same after Nazi mod did his thing and most of the cool users left. Shit, it was immigrants from reddit, GitP, and questfags from /v/ and /a/ everywhere! Thank god quests god banned, and moderator indifference is allowing us to slowly shed outsider trash.

/thread

>quest autists push entire topics off the board forever
>finally get kicked off the board themselves
>whine about it for years afterward

>"normies" don't use internet
>self proclaimed anyway
You can't deny how most of the posters in these threads are guys shrieking about neckbeards or r9k if anyone even dare to slightly agree with OP image or has some doubts on hobbies becoming more mainstream as always 100% positive.
While you hardly have any >tfw no gfs posts on Veeky Forums and anti-SJWs stuff just being /pol/.

My favorite part is they whine that they can't survive without spamming Veeky Forums and forcing us to look at their unrelated content. Even bronies were less pathetic than that.

What is this picture even?

If you didn't want to be shunted off, you should have self moderated more and culled all the anime and smut bullshit. But you didn't, because you're only happen with your own shitty quests and not the quality of the board itself. You even call yourself a "quester" before being a fa/tg/guy, which also shows you don't belong here.

MLP got too big and obnoxious for /co/, and Quests got too big an obnoxious for Veeky Forums. And yet the horsefuckers are even less salty about it than you. You did this to yourself, so enjoy making your bed and sleeping in it, because you'll be doing it alone.

>Sacrificing any of that because it gets in the way of socialising degrades the hobby

Literally autism. Stick to Solitaire.

>quest autists push entire topics off the board forever

Those topics were at the bottom of page 11 and hadn't been bumped for several hours. If they were any good, they wouldn't be at the bottom of page 11.

No idea what the greentext is about,
But i agree that Veeky Forums is probably one of the boards that attracts the most "standard" kind of people, besides Veeky Forums and the porn boards.

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>questfags make fun of people who are concerned page 0 is filled with questthreads, reducing exposure to all the other threads
>questfags are now crying because they don't get enough exposure on their very own board

isn't it ironic

>he actually looks at page 0
The catalog is a thing that exists, user.

Stupid bait poster.

>If you didn't want to be shunted off, you should have self moderated more and culled all the anime and smut bullshit.

Your post makes it look like you think questfags had some kind of magic power to stop strangers from making sub-par threads.

It is true. It is happening right now with nu-L5R. The faggots at Shit Down and Cuck Up decided to be a bunch of virtue signalling woke white guys and attacked a tradition L5R had at tournaments, a pre-tournament chant, as something that makes all non-Japanese East Asians uncomfortable. They with the help of a Chinese Guy that admitted he hated the Japanese managed to create enough of a tempest in a teacup that FFG noticed and FFG has killed the Banzai chant. Hilariously FFG made up a new chant that sounds even more fascist, especially in German. I just wonder what is going to happen to this """"offensively"""""" named card.

t. 40 years old virgin!!!!

>implying smut is bad

user...

Why would people complaining about neckbeards be on Veeky Forums? Go literally anywhere else on the internet.

Smut is fine. There is just a time and place for it. And gaming time is not the time and because Veeky Forums is a blue board it is not the place for it.

Just jack off before coming to Veeky Forums and you'll be fine.

Talking about anime, obviously.

>filename threads
Hey, there's only ever one of those at a time, and they can be legitimately amusing. I don't see why those would be grouped with the trash.

Some user in another thread said that last part should be in the rules and I can't disagree.

the frontpage of Veeky Forums is a thing that exists, user. It's easier to find the content you like by choosing the appropriate board :^)

Here's the true flow:
> Developers put resources into making [thing]
> people who like [thing] support/participate in [thing]
> 50% chance [thing] catches on, or it may stagnate here in phase 3
> if it catches on, 60% chance developers will be more interested in maximizing sales and brand recognition, and begin to survey the newcomers instead of the preexisting fans
> on top of this, lots of people are very stupid, and will take their fandoms far, far to seriously, causing various schisms and uncalled for drama within said preexisting fans; this only makes developers less interested in surveying the standing fans
> Developers instead begin trying to bringing in the broadest accessible demographic, which typically entails seeking out the lowest common denominators.
> 7/10 times, this will be young men or children
> 9/10 times, those young men will be antisocial and/or compulsive buyers
> hence poking the lizard brain of either demographic is the easiest way to get them to buy stuff
> power fantasies, sexualizatoin, promises of real-word rewards, or the up-selling of the game's (often fabricated) popularity are the easiest ways to do this.
> Version 2 or version 3 of [thing] is released, it's been extensively simplified and broaden; like a swimming pool that's been expanded, but half the water's been drained.
> long-time fans will either jump ship at this point, or double-down on their niche corner of the IP based on those aforementioned schisms, causing further descent within the community
> people with healthy social standards will be driven away from all the infighting
> developers get desperate
> game devolves with each iteration
> 10% chance a latter iteration will get it right and rekindle the flame, 90% chance it'll die around the 4th installment of whatever at the latest, if it even gets a 3rd.

True satire. Many such examples.

Oh I get that, but what is the deal with the stomach?

> so autistic you can't recognize pregnancy

What, you mean fags get into a geeky hobby and put the spotlight on themselves with their sexuality? Or that geeks get into a geeky hobby and then make videos of themselves partaking in the hob by wearing revealing clothes (fat guts hanging out, nipples protruding)? No...

Explain cultural appropriation to me. I literally do not understand what it means. Does it mean I can't eat noodles or wear american blue jeans?

Outright good. Kept away forum and reddit subhumans.

Yes, Critical role truly brings roleplaying in the right direction.

It's a made up term by angry americans who can't differ between cultural and genetic influences.

Oh I can, I am just confused why...Also that could be also stuffing or type of vore from my experience

she's malnourished and needs you to feed her, user.

And are destroyed, you forgot to add. Compare the 'punks' and 'skinheads' of today to the real deal when they developed.

That's some 1A mental acrobatics you pull there.
So i agree that
A) Critical role is shit and gives people a warped perspective of the hobby
B) CR has a thing that might pass as a woman.

But now you make the leap that they are bad because they have a woman-thing.
Which is pretty much like saying that i'm a fish when i'm wet, because fish are usually wet.

Yeah, unless you don't think critical role shouldn't be used as a model...