>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android: >Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA
Where would one be able to get their hands on some mini Pickelhaube helmets to put on my Guard
Leo Peterson
>Raven Guard WAAC
Matthew Foster
>12 agressors but why? i'm going to use my las-havoks to make you my little bitch >x5 Vanguard Veterans, Jump Packs, dual chainswords for everyone at least but SOME power axes, there so god-damn cheap now
Cooper Gonzalez
I like Aggressors. As for the axes, I do have some spare points. Maybe I'll at least try to squeeze one in for a sergeant
Is everything WAAC these days?
Alexander Martin
>using half your CP on a chaper master ::Thinking::
Cooper Richardson
your making like tyranids what is wrong with you
Jose Lewis
>Posting list online for constructive criticism and review Waac as fuck m5
Justin Gonzalez
Did they post a tutorial anywhere for how to make those shiny new Savlar Chem Dogs?
I know what the parts are and shit, but I wanna know if they use other guardsmen legs so I don't have to buy shit tons of commander legs along with the Neophyte chest pieces.
Jace Thompson
Let me guess. You're going to use that stratagem that lets you deepstrike before round 1 to set up your aggressors right next to the opponent's army, huh? You a WAACer!
Angel Martinez
How do I get a good number of combi plasma/melta for Blightlords?
Only 1 of each in the kit.
William Williams
Probably pure khorne. >step 1: run forwards in a straight line >step 2: hit things with axes
Nolan Reed
>I like Aggressors yeah, they are fun, but taking twelve is pretty crazy, espcially when you basocally have no anti-tank (autocannons dont count) Guard is going to make you cry if they bring more than one russ (which they will)
Nolan Sanders
Ditch the apothecary Aquire one more scout squad Put chaplain in first detachment You now have a brigade, and a unit that will do more than an apothecary.
Ian James
Is there an exact list of which Legions are basically the opposites of each other? I've always thought of it like this.
>Dark Angels - Alpha Legion Because I and XX >Blood Angels - Emperor's Children Jump Packs, Pretty Primarch >White Scars - Thousand Sons The cultured Legions >Imperial Fists - Iron Warriors Obvious >Space Wolves - World Eaters Both the "Rip and Tear" Legions >Iron Hands - Death Guard Both tough as shit >Ultramarines - Sons of Horus The posterboys >Salamanders - Word Bearers Both love fire >Raven Guard - Night Lords Canon
Angel Garcia
>What is a bitz box >what are bitz sites >what is ebay
Owen Allen
>>what are bitz sites Highway robbery?
Jayden Garcia
Buy more kits of course. GW made that choice even easier, as the combi weapon bits are resized enough to be too small for a normal gun, and too long for the pistol variants
Jack Adams
>White Scars >cultured legion
What did he mean by this?
Elijah Bell
Imperial Fists best Legion
Ryan Martin
At least switch dread for Contemptor Mortis with lascannons to get some actual anti-armour
You know you've got to have 50% of your models deployed, right? Combine Vanguard Vets and maybe you can Raven Guard stratagem a squad of hellblasters or aggressors close to the enemies. No idea, didn't count
>I like Aggressors They seem fine but they're expensive, drop some and get more actual anti-armour
This
Jaxon Green
West wind productions does some
Puppets war has some as well i think
Mason Wilson
Fluff reasons. At least the aura's useful
Just trying to cover bases for my first army. I don't mind losing but I'd like to not end up being the punching bag, or at least not feel like I wasted my money
Well it's an option I suppose. At least I have the option of an ambushing offense or use it to easily steal objectives
Anti-tank is something I've been struggling with since the list started. I might trim or cut the Flamestorm Aggressors to make room for something else with more oomph
I've been pretty on the fence about the Apothecary, but this sounds like a good reason to drop him. Thanks user
Alexander Diaz
lowest infantry sized model count army?
Daniel Phillips
You really don't want the infographics to flood in.
Oliver Collins
>not knowing the White Scar's fluff This has got to be bait
Jose Butler
You got one right. Rest are out the window
Oliver Long
Grey knights
Jayden Campbell
>Third Reich >Picklehaube People seem to mix up their World Wars a lot.
Caleb Rivera
Deathwatch or GK. With DW, you'll end up spending more points on gear than your dudes, probably.
Christopher Peterson
I personally am tired of WW2 everything. I wanna learn about the Great war dammit
Oliver Bailey
Reminder that promoting the pointless opinions of irrelevant people "ironicly", still promotes them.
Luis Morris
> which legions are the opposite of each other? > opposites > proceeds to arrange then in similar pairs You are a retard
Christian Wright
At least 2 of them are canon.
Benjamin Perry
Alpha legion is opposed to the ultramarines.
William Reyes
The most triggering thing is that the Marine calls her Sister but then she replies with Bro. Like at least be consistent with your names
Ryder Hill
I finally want to into the tabletop. Is Adeptus Custodes + SS a good starting army? I like the models, but do they play well on the table?
Colton Turner
I meant opposites as in opposing. Probably should have used a better term.
The DA and AL Horus Heresy rules are arranged to mirror each other. Also, both had their legions split by the Heresy.
Gabriel Peterson
I've checked lots of sites, no luck.
Sad.
Samuel Flores
will look into it. Are death watch a real army though? Or will they be treated like scions.
Brayden Sanchez
Dan Carlin has an excellent podcast called hardcore history, which has a six part series about ww1 that serves as an introduction and general overview of the history.
Brayden Walker
Either Knight or some brain dead army like marines or Khorne
Benjamin Jackson
he charges for podcasts though, just put an audible ad in ya weirdo.
Anthony Butler
Magnus the red was awfully blue back in the day
Adam Butler
Small armies are easy to outmaneuver. Go for something with bigger numbers. Eldar and most flavours of Marines are good options for having decent numbers, but without going overboard.
Aaron Clark
melee SOS are quite good. No idea about custodes I don't know anyone who actually has any. they're not a whole army you'll need a Yourdudes inquisitor and some other stuff too.
Isaac Anderson
I think "the Red" used to refer to his hair.
Robert Morgan
If you're just grouping mirrored traits then it's Raven guard/alpha legion.
Zachary Fisher
They had a lot more units with kits 3 HQ, vets, bikes, assault, termies, transports and unique flier.
Dylan Green
They're bad right now. SS are good only for fighting psyker-heavy armies, average at everything else. Custodes are 60pts a model, which is horribly overcosted for what they bring to the table.
Jace Evans
I think the ww1 is available for free.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
Damn... I was really looking forward to some WW1 history
Lucas Diaz
Nah, Raven Guard is literally Night Lords with Corax tempering them according to the HH series.
Chase Reyes
Just buy one titan. Don’t worry about painting it.
You might need to buy a second bus ticket to get it to your LGS though. If the driver is nice he’ll let you buy a child’s ticket and you can sit it next to you.
Or you could get one of those baby carriers and pretend you’re a big dreadknight.
Adam Kelly
yeah that was is free it seems, I just remember the one I wanted to listen to cost money.
Parker Rodriguez
With the exception of clear ones like the IF/IW, I think most legions have more than one mirror. For example, the raven guard are mirrored by the night lords (jump packs) & alpha legion (tacticool). The world eaters are mirrored by the space wolves & blood angels. The luna wolves/sons of spikyhorse have mirrors in night lords & blood angels, in that all 3 are drop assault specialists (with a tendency toward brutality). And so on.
Zachary Morgan
SoS are so strange. They are stuck in an worst Rhino. Are super expensive for what they do when compared to other anti-psyker and/or melee unit in the index
Ethan Hall
Oh so you're using lore now. Then it's alpha legion/ultramarines
Hunter Powell
AL saw themselves as Ultramarines Rivals. As did Word bearers.
Few easy pairing as theres opposites/paralels in combat, grudges and "mirror darkly" between loads of them.
Evan Fisher
>infantry sized
Christian Richardson
>Or you could get one of those baby carriers and pretend you’re a big dreadknight.
I'm not a big fan of Mk-IV-like Mk X helmets, should I use Forgeworld Legion heads for Ultramarines instead or would that look shitty?
Nathan Adams
Try it out, there's a bunch for free that are great. And any new ones he makes he keeps free on his site for a while.
Bentley Howard
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Jaxon Cox
> alpha legion rules > pick your special rule as special rule, rites of war can fuck with reserves, steal special units > DA rules > bare bones as fuck, need to use EXTREMELY restricting rites of war to gain good bonuses at the cost of flexibility user you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. All your posts confirm this
Eli Williams
What is the best colour scheme and why is it the UM's?
Luis Allen
>inb4 WAAC Help me perfect my Raptors and IG army Lias uses his ability to infiltrate the Raptors that can't scout, basically giving them Deep Strike while the IG SpecWepTeams, Vets and HQ ride in Valks. I haven't decided on IG being Tallarn yet; mainly using them as a placeholder since they'll make the Valks ignore heavy.
Nicholas Howard
>Covenant of Death: If your opponent finishes the game with more units than you they get D3 victory points. >Martial Hubris: If the Alpha Legion suffers more units destroyed than the foe, the enemy gains +1 VP. Really?
Jaxon Cox
Those Marines have tiny faces.
Benjamin Hall
post face bitch
Nathaniel Walker
Doctrines don't work on fliers
Gavin King
it goes space wolf v tson imperial fist v iron warriors iron hands v emp child ultras v word bearers
The rest do not have proper rivals.
Ayden Torres
>Angron used to look like regular bloodthirsters look now >regular bloodthirster used to look like some cooky red wizard. >the cooky red wizard had a dwarf haircut, dwarf legs, blue skin and gorilla arms holding on to a stick >The great unclean one is literally just some normalscale nurgling which snuck into epic to pretend to be a big boy for once.
I love these models if only for their comedic strangeness.
Hudson Nelson
>Raven Guard Why is it ALWAYS Raven Guard?
Meh, my tanks still hit you on fours and wound on 2s, so it's not that bad. Just... ALWAY Ravens. In other news you're AT is lacking. Unless your fighting nothing but blobguard I recommend some Lascannons
Nicholas Evans
Go look up Trench Fighters. Their greatcoat legs are better than GW's and more varied.
Isaac Torres
Forgot to mention I'm considering removing two scout HB to make the third Scout squad into Tacs and use the Raven Guards Strike From the Shadows stratagem to infiltrate them >-2x HB and 1CP >+1 armour save
You're right, they're not , damn Any recommendations which reg I should go for instead?
Jack Rivera
This. One could argue thematic paralels between the batman/manbat pairs and the blood for the blood good/emperor And i guess neither AL or Khan played by the rules.
That still leaves Bromander and Horus.
Caleb Flores
Shit iunno I just liked the chapter tactic the most. As for anti-tank I'm working on it. I just don't really have a good baseline for how much I need in general
Ethan Rogers
You must have some plasma weapon lying aroud? if not you can use green stuff moulds to copy the one in the blight lords kit, there are plenty of guides online
Landon Price
Shit you're right they look good.
Well, with that out of the way I may as well ask my next question. Which Doctrine would suit the Savlar fluff the most? I'm thinking Catachan cause of the +1S lines up with their use of chems.
It depends. The Catachan Flamer Order makes sense. As does the Valhallan doctrine (Chems make them fearless)
Landon Watson
At 2000 points you need to be capable, in theory, of killing at least 1 Leman Russ tank in the first turn. The stat line is T8, W12, Sv3+.
Right now all you have are hellblasters and they are insufficient even overcharged. Here, let me show you: 12 wounds/2 damage per unsaved wound*6/5 unsaved wounds*2/1 hits that wound*3/2 shots that hit= 21 overcharging hellblasters required to kill a Russ. Waaay to many, though getting to rapid fire range can help.
Isaac Adams
Thanks, that kinda helps
Evan Parker
I found it on his website. But thank you anyways user
Elijah Campbell
After the last few threads, am I the only one suspicions of "Admech players"?
I mean the ones that post Admech are chill af and one of about 3 armies that paint their dudes, but I'm seeing a lot of people shill for guard, CSM, and realltvany army but when they're called on their bullshit always say to back off, they don't even play (x), they play Admech
Is Admech becoming the throwaway "shit need to look impartial" liar's army?
Hudson Wood
Yeah, because the recent codex was shit. If eldar is a flop then you'll see them should to eldar.
Leo Walker
admech players are awful because they speak in binary on this board.
Blake Morgan
Hellblasters are ap4.
Hudson Murphy
No no, I mean Admech players themselves seem nice, but I'm suspicious that because of this people from hated armies (like I said, guard, chaos, Tau, etc.) lie and say they play Admech as an excuse to look impartial
Look through the last through threads, there's like 4 or 5 examples of people getting BTFO and called out for army/lore bias only for them to conveniently play Admech
Angel Howard
Yeah that's a bit of a coin flip. Valhallans might be better because it also talks about how resourceful they are, so I imagine that could explain why they're vehicles keep up their pace and stuff.
Thanks user.
Camden Garcia
Any advice on tournament play? I usually don't do that because of the waac aspect, but I'm thinking it's going to be the best way to find games now.
Charles Lewis
Honestly, you should try running them with each of the two, see which one you like best.