Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Catachan.
Feudal people are stronger, and they shoot artillery better
:^)
Or Cadian.
Or Mordian.
Or Valhallan.

Catachan is the only one that benefits melee.

Not sure why you wanna paint em fast, they are a low model count army so you should probably spend a bit of time on them.

Wash with what, though? I was thinking any wash might look too "dirty".

Nuln Oil, just don't put too much of it and your good

Top down costs:
141
141
52

288
2x 54
149
2x 97

70
2x 120

3x 74

145
2x 125

Dropping Dragoons breaks the brigade. Gotta have Fast Attack for those 9 CP

I personally wash silver with drakenhof nightshade, then use fenrision gray to highlight and it looks pretty good, but it's give the impression of a matte or old metal, not a shiny one.

REeeeeee

The one good thing about people banning forgeworld: The primaris toy won't get table time

>Heresy era marines were better
They were mass produced SHIT. You do realize they weren't veterans either, right? At the time of the Heresy, Guilliman wasn't even 200 years old. And the heresy lasted whole 8 fucking years.
Nowadaws in 40k there are even mortals older than that.

Still working on my parking lot list, this is build 2.1, removed the multi meltas on those command tanks to fit in one more Russ. Thoughts ?

IG Armageddon Brigade detachment - 2000pts

>HQ
Tank Commander - Lascannon, Battlecannon - 209pts
Tank Commander - Lascannon, Battlecannon - 209pts

>ELITE
Platoon Commander – 20pts
Platoon Commander – 20pts

>TROOP
Infantry Squad – 40pts
Infantry Squad – 40pts
x10 Tempestus Scions – x3 Plasma Guns – 136pts
x10 Tempestus Scions – x3 Plasma Guns – 136pts

>TRANSPORTS
Taurox – x2 Autocannons – 70pts
Taurox – x2 Autocannons – 70pts
Chimera – Multilaser, Heavy Bolter – 93pts
Chimera – Multilaser, Heavy Bolter – 93pts

>HEAVY SUPPORT
x2 Basilisk – Heavy Bolter - 216pts
x2 Wyvern – Heavy Bolter - 186pts
x3 Leman Russ Battle Tank – Battlecannon, Heavy Bolter - 456pts

>Let's ban a whole sister company's models because of the new toy from the new sub-faction
Kys.

Is anyone actually going to buy it?
It's gonna be at least 400 quid when it comes out

Something something chinese caster

That isn't close to a brigade.

>Missing 2 troops
>0 Fast Attack
>Brigade
The fuck?

r8 my list

3 vindicators
-storm bolters

3x 10 man tactical squad
-plasma gun
-power sword
-plasma pistol

librarian
-force axe

pedro kantor

contemptor dreadnought
-Kheres pattern assault cannon

I meant Bataillon sorry. The original build was brigade but I dropped the idea pretty quick seeing how unpractical it was with this type of list and forget to change the name.

these are Steel Legion brigades, user

>cool thematic shit
>suddenly FW shit

Fuck off with this meme.

FW?

Heavy bolter chimeras are cheaper than multilasers, better vs the vast majority of targets, and what steel legion use in fluff.

3x mix of Devil Dogs and Hell Hounds
2x scout sentinels w/ lascannons
2x scout sentinels w/ lascannons

There, now you don't have to worry about khorne berserkers, Celestine, or mortarion.

where in the fluff does it say they use heavy bolter chimeras?

Forge.

World.

Could anyone share with me the heraldry guide for dreadnoughts?

Left my book and wanna put down some transfers this evening.

>3x mix of Devil Dogs and Hell Hounds

Explain.
I don't see how they are so good here.

What would you cut for them ? Russes I believe ?

Also, 55pts for a BS4 lascannon feels expensive.

>They were mass produced SHIT.

Khyber Pass guns are all hand made and fitted, but they're still shit compared to ones mass produced in a factory.

>You do realize they weren't veterans either, right?

Define "veteran".

>At the time of the Heresy, Guilliman wasn't even 200 years old. And the heresy lasted whole 8 fucking years.

Yeah, 200+ years of constant expansion and the biggest conflict the galaxy has seen. Total n00bs compared to some dudes patrolling space and engaging in random planetary wars for hundreds of years. I mean, fuck the "Greatest Generation," many of them didn't even put in good 2 years in the field from Normandy to Berlin. Try doing several years patrolling some desert outpost in Iraq. That'll put hair on your chest.

in 8th contemptors cant take regular assault cannons, only kheres pattern, but still come with regular, so i was just gonna use the rules for the kheres

...

2000pts

+ Cadian Spearhead +

Command Punisher [3x Heavy Bolters] Warlord [Master of Command]
Primaris Psyker

Leman Russ Battle Tank [Heavy Bolter]
Leman Russ Battle Tank [Heavy Bolter]
Leman Russ Exterminator [3x Heavy Bolters]
Leman Russ Executioner [Lascannon, 2x Plasma Cannon]
Leman Russ Executioner [Lascannon, 2x Plasma Cannon]

Manticore [Heavy Bolter]

+ Black Templar Vanguard +

Chaplain Dreadnought [Twin Lascannon, Power Fist]

Venerable Dreadnought [Twin Lascannon, Power Fist]
Redemptor Dreadnought [Macro Plasma, Power Fist & Onslaught cannon, 2x Stormbolters]
Redemptor Dreadnought [Macro Plasma, Power Fist & Onslaught cannon, 2x Stormbolters]

I think it should be 2kpts but if Im off then I could switch the Venerable for an Ironclad and that will put me at 2kpts. Thoughts?.

>tfw three drop pods attempt to deepstrike your anchored stormsurge, and you obliterate all three drop pods and still get to fire at the survivors in the opponent's movement phase

You're missing the math hammer chart.

Fucking delete this thread and move to the other.

Führer Wills it.

You can summon after disembarking.

Also, it would be cool if in the sisters codex, they did get daemon tags, and GW ran with the daemons of the emperor idea.

The judges cannon seems kinda shafted in 8th. Only better than a regular asscan against t6 infantry.

aight, bet

*kheres

>Also, it would be cool if in the sisters codex, they did get daemon tags, and GW ran with the daemons of the emperor idea.
>Useless tag except for Grey Knights
>Grey knights get bonuses vs sisters
Fluffy.

I have literally not seen a single drop pod in 8th

>>when you realize they axed grenadiers, the coolest looking death corps infantry, because no one was allowed to have hot shots but tempestus

>Tfw my list has 2 103 point pods.
kill me

why are tacs in front when you have tons of literal melee juggernauts immune to the poxwalkers. Truly IF are just like his father...

Fuck off, Waaaard

Imagine though if imperial characters could summon Sisters of Battle units though.

And the plastic models we get for them are super angelic.

Fuck off 1d4chan.

You spend more on drop pods than I do on troops
8th is weird

Our BAngles faggot runs a couple, I have no real idea why all his good choppy shit gets jump packs anyway, only some tacitcal chumps go in them.

The drop pod costs more than the squad they are carrying.

Fucking Space Marines, inhuman brutes reeeeeeeeeeeee

It’s double insulting when inceptors, while not aesthetically pleasing to everyone, are dramatically more points efficient plasma/bolter deep strikers than vets in a drop pod

And they don’t even have to land in rapid fire range

I LITERALLY just posted the fluff that explicitly confirms "Yes, we tolerated deviances in SM production for the sake of speed and quantity".
40k marines emphasize the individual much more than what it was in 30k, simply because 40k chapters NEED to, they don't have the same support they had back when they were legions.
They can't afford it, but back in the day they could.
Not to mention those dudes fighting in one planet in the crusade weren't the same dudes fighting in the next planet, because casualties could be in the tens of thousands per campaign.
You see the named HQs?
Morturg was inducted after the DG lost so many people in one place that Morty himself had to temporarily suspend the Barbarus-only restriction.
Dantioch's all Grand Comany died. Twice: the first time he was the only survivor.
Gate 42 was not even a war. It was a SINGLE BATTLE against mortals that were holding off more than 4 legions and required Horus, Corax, Russ and Perturabo, and even then 30 000 Raven Guard died that day.
The mortals of Gaardinal held off an expeditionary fleet and killed half the Ultramarines in it.

Marines in 30k did face more terrible enemies than what there are today...it's just that they didn't live through it, which is why quality and training were compromised for the sake of greater numbers.

Your ideas are terrible. Never post again.

U mad?

don't lewd the dragon loli

Did the holocaust really happen?

>Wake up from a coma
>the spiritual liege is now the actual liege

???? what the fuck who allowed this to happen

nah, now that I know it annoys you, I've got something to live for.

What doors do your rhinos have?

Too jealous of xeno ladies who receive the geneseed, bolter bitch?

I don't think so.

I kinda feel like gw is trying to remove drop pods from being something seen on a table to something done off the table as part of the lore. It's not like they made primaris pods.

Primaries in general seem to have diverted from the original space marine purpose of "orbitally dropped elites who are best at boarding actions"

No teleportarium based insertion, no terminator assaults, no strike force sized flyer dropship.

Half plastic half Forgeworld

Calgar was the spiritual liege you dipshit, go back to your coma.

Sauce.
Also, he looks a bit like Hank Hill.

Modded auschwitz doors.

are you trying to imply they're not basically the same person

damage control

anyway for real though what the fuck happened and why is roboute actually jesus

>orbitally dropped elites

So I have 20 tactical Marines in my large (6500-7000 points) of Dark Angels, tempted to get some more even though I tend to focus on Deathwing/Ravenwing for games.

Only reason is, I love the knight style heads from Forgeworld and was going to buy them with the bodies you get too, is it worth doing this to tactical with the way the game is going, or just get the helmets and stick them onto some intercessors (I already have 15, 10 from the Dark Imperium set and 5 from the know no fear set where I went halves on both with a friend - and boosted with the free painting models you get for newbies).

Obviously this would be my main tactical squad, maybe greenstuff some robes on them and fluff them as some vets but used as a tactical squad.

Sorry for the blog but anyone have any ideas, since we have no idea how GW will deal with Dark Angels in the future with possibility of new models, but I really do like the knight asthetic I can give them but just wondering if anyone had ideas basically.

>It's not like they made primaris pods
I wish I was good at editing, since if I was, I would get a drop pod, and edit a repulsor plate on the bottom, and lascannons/rocket launchers on every flat surface.

That would be a Primaris pod.

Weirdly enough primaris in dark imperium are actually even more orbital drop focused than normal marines, to the point that they have a new class of escort that is purely designed to make orbit and drop a demi company within minutes.

Normal primaris+dreads drop in Overlords or thunderhawks, inceptors atreus and repulsors just drop from orbit by themselves.

What's this Rhino Doors + Forgeworld + Holocaust thing thats going on?

...

How do GKs rank up in terms of how people view them as an army?

Sorry, I usually forget these exist.

But still, the other infantry can only be deployed via fuck huge dropships. No individual squad deployments.

saccade-rush.tumblr.com/

It's just part of a long, ongoing shitpost that's been going on for a week or so now.

>Marines of the Ravenwing, wearing Corvus armour and Corvus hammers
Aaaaaaay not even Corvus Corax' Raven Guard.
Sometimes I wonder what GW considers to be "too much".
Then I remember Primaris are getting a superheavy...

Woud Bile and a small noise marine detachment be an odd thing fluff-wise for a DG army?

>I would get a drop pod, and edit a repulsor plate on the bottom, and lascannons/rocket launchers on every flat surface.
Heroic user, please help us.

a meme that including anything fw related makes you a literal nazi and waacfag.

That would suck. I have 3 drop pods i used last edition

Eh fluff it as Bile is helping the DG for something in return, or is there to study nurgle's rot.

I suppose with Bile it really is that easy, huh.

He's a free agent, technically not part of the Emperor's Children anymore. For the right price he'll work with anyone, even xenos.

Eldar twats were made for Primaris dick.

And Bile tends to end the partnership by betrayal.

>Marines in 30k did face more terrible enemies than what there are today...it's just that they didn't live through it, which is why quality and training were compromised for the sake of greater numbers
Hell, the World Eaters alone during the Grand Crusade-Heresy probably had more casualties than all the Black Crusades put together.

>Mfw I own 90 of them

New thread, new shit. Some user posted this towards the end of the last thread, I think its a pretty interesting question, so lets have a go at it 40kg.

Try to honestly rate your main army's powerlevel based on your local game scene

>Top Tier
>High Tier
>Mid Tier
>Low Tier
>Bottom Tier

Me:
>Grey Knights
>High Tier/Top Tier
Am really kind of confused by this atm. With just the index, I had a pretty much 50/50 win rate.
Then the codex came out. I played a list with a shitton of Paladins and, for whatever reason, never lost a single game with that list.
Then, since people started complaining "Arrrrgh, your GKs are so OP, you should stop playing them so strongly!!", I changed the list up, dropped some Paladins, grabbed a Land Raider and some Dreadnoughts and stuff, but am still doing very well in my local meta.

I "lost" one game with my new "toned down" list (I nearly tabled by opponent, but he had more Maelstrom points, so kudos to him for finally beating me)
And today, while playing a couple games, once again people started throwing around
>"Gosh GKs are so OP"
>"They were WAYYYY too good in 7th, and didnt even nerf them in 8th? Way to strong"
>"Psychic powers on every squad is way to good"
>"Dreadnoughts are too good, your BS/WS is too good, your Paladins are too hard to kill, Apothecaries healing stuff is SO OP, etcetc"
I mean, I get that they complain. I stomped another two players today.
But goddammit, I thought GKs were one of the weaker armies. What the fuck is going on, 40kg? Are GKs OP after all?