Why do dwarves and elves hate each other? They live in completely different areas and should have no reason to fight for resources or land.
Why do dwarves and elves hate each other...
Yeah, because all hatred is based on scarcity of resources.
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Well, I know in LotR it's because the elves "abandoned them in their time of need" and in Warhammer there was big ass war. I don't know why other settings have it, might just be their differing cultures. Oddly enough, in Warcraft dwarves and elves of all stripes don't seem to have any special animosity.
And in Warhammer it's only because of aping Tolkien.
Do dwarves like anyone?
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>Liking anyone but your own kind
A relatively cucked, naive worldview desu famalamading-dong.
>yfw Paige is the human in the dwarf x human relationship and will die long before Pat
Pat's essentially immortal. He's preserved his vital organs by embalming them in Red Bull.
I wish I could clone a gf.
And in Tolkien, when elves first met dwarves, they named them "Naugrim," which meant "stunted people."
So the knife-ears were kinda cunts from the start.
>uses "knife-ears"
Sad. You'd think kids like you would actually try using something not specifically designed to be inoffensive by a baby-safe video game.
>it's okay to call dorfs short
>but can't make fun of silly ears
Elf apologists, everyone.
>He still says "Cuck"
Spot the virgin.
Because the demonic dragon lich told them to do so.
Let's see:
Faerie Fuckers
Tree Huggers
Keeblers
Willow Dicks
Oldfags
Making fun of their ears is great, but comparing them to knives is hardly as insulting as you'd like to imagine it is.
If you're going to use an insult, don't go for the limp-wristed ones found in mediocre video games.
Does that make humans and half-orcs newfags?
bartenders
"knife-ear" predates that video game by a very long time. Cool your autism, kiddo.
>Humans
Newfags
>Half-Orcs
cancer
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In the Lord of the Rings, Elves are made by Illuvatar, they are bound to nature and magic, and are the special chosen super people who, as magic dies, stop doing things and slowly change from active heroes to passive observers.
Dwarfs are made by some other maiar, are more like automatons sort of than creatures, are greedy and mechanical and don't like others.
So by their very nature, being kind of manifestations of different divine philosophies, they don't much like each other. In later settings and games, that dynamic gets ported over with none of the backstory or justification, and is simultaneously exaggerated to more comic levels. So it seems more arbitrary and strange, like a lot of stuff that is endlessly copied from LotR without the context always being transferred over.
>Oldfags
Doesn't stop it from being popularized there, but more importantly doesn't stop it from being particularly limp-wristed.
But hey, if you want to out yourself as a faggot too tender to use a proper insult, do what you do.
You're still getting inordinately upset over a joke, boyo.
You need to go take your autism meds.
Jesus fuck you are autistic. Go outside and stop worrying about the effectiveness of fantasy insults, you limpwristed no-life.
Also that whole thing with the silmaril and murdering Luthien's father
I was gonna drop it after the first reply, but I didn't realize I hit a little baby's nerves. The hypocrisy of you getting this upset about someone pointing out how you sound like a faggot is also pretty amusing.
No one's upset here but you. I tried to play off your first comment with more humor, but you insisted on being upset about a term that was referenced in a game just because it was referenced in a game that you don't like.
>I'm not retarded, I'm just trolling.
>You guys are the upset ones.
Cool, we're here to tell you that you are retarded and autistic for saying something retarded and autistic. Quit being a little snowflake.
>Not liking anyone but your own kind
You probably haven't left the country you were born, have you? Probably not even the city?
>No one's upset here but you
No, you seem genuinely upset that someone's explaining that your favorite insult makes you sound pretty stupid.
You're trying way too hard to pull a "No u!"
>implying I live in a city
>implying I have enough disposable income to travel abroad
Perhaps someday.
You're trying really hard to derail the conversation away from how dumb you sound.
But hey, I guess that's to be expected. Picking on you for sounding dumb and not expecting a cascade of even dumber responses would have been silly.
Pat may never die but he will eventually clip through the geometry of his apartment and fall out of world.
Ladies, ladies, you're both autistic.
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And it will be on stream, during their inevitable coop playthrough of Dead Space 3 -mark my words.
I always use the term leaf ears, or some sort of plant name in reference to leafs. Knife ears sounds like an ork clan.
Hopefully it broadens your views a bit. Wouldn't want another Chris Chan.
>Wouldn't want another Chris Chan.
I do hope you're being sarcastic.
True, but I appreciate the War of the Beard.
Way more thought than most settings put into it.
(Seriously, people talk about how 'generic' the Dwarves of Warhammer are, but I fucking WISH most settings had the grudge thing.)
It's not that they are automatons just that they were not originally part of the divine plan. They are every bit as much of a living feeling thing as the elves and for a while elves and dwarves lived and traded together frequently. The greed which dwarves have gained infamy for didn't really arise until the corruption by the seven rings. They were resistant to magic so the rings couldn't gain dominion like they did with men but it poisoned the lords with avarice.
The simirils changed all of that with the dwarves getting buddy fucked by the elves as they went after the simirils destroying much of what had been built between the races. This was not helped by an ever increasing frequency of elves forming alliances or agreements and then not upholding their end once things got hairy. For dwarves breaking bonds, even if only by word, permanently puts you on their shitlist so they became more reclusive and less than helpful to elves at large. By similar behavior they became distrusting of men when many sided with Morgoth's servants for little more than the promise of wealth or power.
Elves will put their kind first above all others which (while not a bad thing in and of itself) is something that has to be taken into consideration when dealing with them. Alliances, treaties, and oaths from elves are only good as long as it is convenient for them and doesn't require sacrifice on their end. This behavior contrasts heavily against dwarven culture where a spoken oath is as binding as iron.
>wanting to live in a city
Inner city is fucking miserable.
It's not just the grudges, but also the devotion to quality of craft and by extension the resistance to new ideas despite the genius of the race. They're wonderfully flawed.
Christian W Chandler?
The fat autistic virgin who never left the two neighboring towns he grew up in, who carried around a sign asking for his ideal girl and said no blacks allowed. Who told black grills to their face that he's too good for blacks because he's "Old fashioned". The legendary guy that was so scared of "homos", that he couldn't even say dick.
That's what you look like to everyone when you say that. Especially out loud in public. I hope to god you aren't actually autistic.
Where did you get that from? I live in a small town that's pretty pleasant other than all the meth. If I want to do something fun, I just drive 30 minutes south to a larger city, or an hour to the metropolitan area, but I don't do that often. Land's cheap, gas is cheap, and commuting to the city for work is pretty easy.
Beards longer than they are tall. Also, the anger, the sheer warhammer born dwarf anger.
Source?
Who the fuck considers these slurs? That's like calling Hispanics "Warehouse sitters" because they sit around Home Depot for if someone needs manual labourers. The majority of slurs aren't based off of noting physical features, the only example I can think of is calling Jews hook nosed and even then you call them a hook nosed Jew or a hook nosed kike, you don't call Jews hook noses.
For example
>Blacks are called niggers (or negros)
This is based off their appearance ie. their skin colour but note it just mentions the colour it doesn't mention the skin specifically, they are called negros, not negro skins.
>Jews are called kikes
This is literally just based off of the fact that illiterate Jewish immigrants would generally sign their name with a circle instead of an X and the word for circle in yiddish is similar to kike or some shit.
>Hispanics are called spics
Supposedly its based on the "fact" that Hispanic people pronounce speak as spic?
>Foreigners are called barbarians
Based on the idea that non-Greek languages had the bar sound so a German or Celt speaking essentially sounded like they were saying "bar bar bar bar" constantly. Kind of like calling robots beep boops.
>Germans are called Krauts, French are called Frogs
Based off of the gross things strange people eat.
Essentially you can base a slur off of anything from language, to food, to appearance, to environment, to having to cross a river to get into your country (wetback), to general forms of work, to honking your horn to get whores to come out. The main consistent themes among racial slurs is that they are short and seemingly of arbitrary origin. Kike, spic, nigger, kraut, frog, cracker, honky, all of them are single words with one or two syllables. Honestly though racial slurs in fantasy settings are probably a crap idea anyway since they are nearly or completely impossible to come off naturally since slurs evolve from culture and history and evolve into just words.
Yeah, the only DnD dwarf who really seemed to have that level of personality to him (that willingness to criticize other race's workmanship, for instance) is the one from that DnD comic that we always share; name escapes me at the moment.
Other than that, they really don't have much going for them; Flint Fireforge was grumpy and useless, and Bruenor Battlehammer's just a walking set of bagpipes.
To expand upon this if you really want to include racial slurs I would suggest looking at cultural things as much as physical features and find ways to convey ideas that come across almost as cutesy.
Maybe for pig nosed orcs make racial slurs against them some sort of reference to pigs, pork, or something made using pig skin. Maybe dwarves eat weird food, maybe they eat a lot of mushrooms and stuff because they live underground, make a slur based on that.
Barring that you are probably better off using homosexual slang for fantasy racial slurs than using retarded shit like "knife ears" or "tree huggers"
>Elves=Twinks (effeminate gay men)
>Dwarves=Bears (big hairy gay men)
>Humans=Kikis (lesbians that are neither butch nor femme) or Otters (thin hair men)
I'm still gonna call them twiggers.
Twig dick is better insult than all of those
>implying I don't want another chris-chan to laugh at the train wreck
When half the nation, left or right, becomes Chris Chan, I'll be a bit concerned.
That's not going to happen, so just enjoy the ride.
My friend who I play D&D with admitted to me that he not only browses /pol/, but is on the spectrum. I'm going to be concerned about this with or without your permission.
Don't dwarves and drow at least have every reason to hate each other due to subterranean run-ins?
Browsing /pol/ isn't that bad, it's when you take all of /pol/ seriosuly instead of the horse shoe'd nutjobs they are that it becomes a problem.
Being on the spectrum also isn't really a problem, it's like 4% of the population are somehwere on the spectrum, the vast majority live normal lives.
I'm not taking away your permission to be worried, I'm laughing at how much of a drama queen you're being about it
Well in Warcraft they don't.
>Browsing /pol/ isn't that bad, it's when you take all of /pol/ seriosuly instead of the horse shoe'd nutjobs they are that it becomes a problem.
Back in Highschool, I did, and I was a member of the "Alt right" before the term was coined. I'm glad I grew out of it and exposed myself to the world more instead of degrading into a pathetic husk of a man. It's not a joke, that can seriously warp you world view, especially for people who are more vulnerable to that. People who might be resentful, on the spectrum, depressed, or feel ostracized, or even just general contrarians.
I don't care if you laugh, my friend genuinely believes that Kek is real. He's normally a really nice guy who'd go out of his way to help people, but now he's concerned about (((them))). I wonder how many other people didn't make it out.
humans usually, or at least they tolerate them.
Honestly? That works fairly decently, it describes elven culture (living in trees) has a mocking tone and is short and sweet.
>mfw I have that exact same shirt
>They live in completely different areas
>OP has never seen tree covered hills or mountains.
>OP thinks that dwarves could farm above the treeline.
> OP doesn't know that Arda, the god of Tolkien gods, was mad at the earth god for making dwarves first because elves were supposed to be made first.
> OP doesn't know that language barriers have always been causes of conflict amd dwarves have always PROUDLY kept their language secret from other races.
> OP thinks elves wouldn't want steel.
> OP thinks dwarves wouldn't need wood.
OP isn't very good at this, is he.
Nah, except for all the homeless people, living in a city is great. And you can even have fun with those if you got disposable income.
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>Both very long lived
>Both prideful
I treat them in my setting that they were originally ruled over the Underground (Dwarves) and Overground (Elves) but they started to fight over each others land.
Then Humans came along and filled in the gap after centuries of phyrric wars
Also Tech v Magic i suppose
When the elves first met dwarves they assumed they were animals and hunted them for sport.
You can almost hear the autistic tears from here.
>and I was a member of the "Alt right"
Imagine being this fucking autistic and then having the gall to talk about what others should do with their lives
Because, stereotypically speaking, they're pretty opposite of each other.
Short, masculine, blunt, strong, greedy, industrious
Tall, feminine, tactful, agile, hippy-socialists, tree-huggers
Really the only things they tend to have in common, culturally speaking, is a very strong respect for tradition and history.
People can change.
Arda's the planet; Eä the universe; you mean Eru.
>he gets mad at "Cuck"
Spot the cuck.
>DURR IM NOT UPSET YOURE UPSET
>HURR NO IM NOT UPSET YOU ARE UPSET
whats the point?
Knife ear detected.
Some people just like to be autistic on the interwebz.
>Browsing /pol/ isn't that bad,
So get back to it.
I do. Thanks user.
In the Legendarium it's a mix of a few things. Dwarves and Elves fight over the Nauglamir, and the Dwarves sack and destroy the city of Menegroth. This is said to have been the root cause of all dwarven and elven animosity. Then there's dwarves like Mîm (petty dwarves) who seem to dislike elves for stealing their land, though I don't think this sentiment is shared with the rest of the dwarves.
Is argue that negro is not a slur
Oooh, that is GOOD, I'm using that in my setting.
Elves and dwarves are ideologically opposed and live completely separate lives. Hatred is a strong word, as they don't compete for resources. Distrust and disdain is more appropriate.
While they don't compete for resources, they don't get along and just stay away from one another. When they have to interact it's probably begrudgingly.
Think about it. Dwarves and elves are the two sides of humans. Patience and ambition, harmony and greed, duty and freedom, arrogance and humility. Dwarves were crafted from the earth itself, like how man was forged from clay. Elves are descended from gods, like how man was made in the image of our creator. Dwarves are hairy, burly, masculine, and pragmatic. Elves are hairless, slender, feminine, and oriented towards the arts.
See it how blue collared workers and artistic academics see one another. It's not hatred necessarily. It's the incapability of understanding their way of life.
The elves are just bitter they aren't the most beloved. They are bitter that Eru adopted the Dwarves and that they'll one day share paradise with them, and they're jealous of the gift of death given to man.
It worked for Tolkein.
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tell me about it why can't more people be enlightened moderates™ like us normal people
> I was a member of the "Alt right" before the term was coined
ya i have a hard time believing this for some reason
>/pol/ is ironic maymay
Are you sure that you are not on the spectrum ?
It's not an "ironic" place - it is a cancerous board, that also likes to sometimes pollute other boards such as Veeky Forums. Don't even try to delude yourself about it.
>says cocked
>posts pictures of twitch video game lets players
Kill yourself you waste of resources
>living in blank is great because I have to go elsewhere to have fun
Ruralfags everybody
Please post a comprehensive list of your hobbies, interests, and professional pursuits, granting us the privilege of painstakingly critiquing the nature of your existence before we suggest you kill yourself.
>Implying Pat won't turn himself into a toilet by then