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What would be the most stable form,in your opinion, of government for space faring civilizations?

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Some sort of Equinecracy?

Rule by women with the biggest tits

damn bruh she got some big titties do'

Matriarchal, matrilineal feudalism

Depends on the setting.
>hard science
>no FTL
>even interplanetary government is next to impossible, let alone intersystem

Assuming the speed of communications (and travel) is capped at c, a high level of decentralisation would be necessary to have a multi-solar civilisation.
Space Feudalism ahoy! Or Space Classical City-States ahoy!

Not even the best girl in the game

Whatever you call the holy roman empire.
Actual established planets are going to eventually have VERY different cultures, and colonies are going to want nothing to do with developed planet yuppies. But they need to be able to all fall in with some kinda of central body incase ayy lamos start trying to fuck with us.

Autonomous worlds that owe fealty and tribute to a central bureaucracy that administers intersystem trade, an intersystem navy, and a unified diplomatic corps.

Sort of like the early American federal government, but with a unicameral legislature consisting of only the Senate, and a much longer term of office for president (in the early stages of the American federal government, the state legislatures chose both their US senators and their electors for the electoral college; only your house reps were voted on directly.

The European Union.

Veteran suffrage.

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Dem trips

Depends on how long it takes to travel across inhabited space.
If the civilization has access to some kind of insane FTL that can allow them to travel across populated space in hours than a representational democratic government is possible.
If it takes months or maybe years to do so than something like a constitutional monarchy or high kingdom may work.
If it takes more than a couple years than it reaches the upper limit of what is possible for a single govenment to maintain, if it takes multiple lifetimes to travel to another star system there is no practical way a government could hope to maintain control over it's colonies so they would each effectively become their own autonomous nations.

Half the point of the dune series was that this system of governemt was so stable for the galaxy that it really started fucking over humanity's future. It took leto about 5 thousand years to actually fuck up the galaxy enough that people stopped just recentralizing after the last centre of power got fucked.

It's an edit tho bruh

>Whatever you call the holy roman empire.

So a confederacy of barbarian heathens?

>Whatever you call the holy roman empire.
It's generaly referred to as 'a clusterfuck'

The only real answer to teh question I can give 'depends on the FTL method'.

As a generalized answer, some sort of Hanseatic League.

Constitutional Monarchy. Governments for each world for local admin, but owing alleigance to a central, well known figure/royal line to tie all the colonies together.

>Ryder
>Best girl
>Best anything

Best butter-face more like.

In a setting where travel is slow, I think it would be feudalism - the only laws are contracts made on an individual basis. The group can agree to punish anyone who violates contracts they agreed to, but not what's an unacceptable contract to make. Individual planets would have various kinds of 'social contracts' but mostly it would just be corporations doing what they wanted and going under if they wanted the wrong things.

He said best, not worst.

Unironically a Federation of Planets. Or star systems I guess.

i'll kill you

Southeast asian mandala sytem. Which isn't really very stable in the short run, more like dynamic.

How about merchant republic?

All the things you think, do and say are in the pill you took that day.

what do you mean by "stable"?
Because the government that would last the longest would barely be a government, instead a gang of rabble that bands together against outside threats and all have their own individual laws depending on their situation.

>HOLY
>ROMAN
>EMPIRE

Dibs on the first Cowboy Planet and the third Mafia Planet!

That creature is so retarded I can't stand it. Just looking at the picture without playing the gif repulses me. Why would anyone make something like this?

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>Why would anyone make something like this?
That's what happens when you let SJWs make a game, user. Everyone is an uggo.

A publisher holds the rights and sends an RFQ out to developers, only to let their personal pet developer bid the lowest price including labor and force them to an impossible schedule with little resources. Dev management accepts conditions because they are bad at their jobs.

Same as every big budget crap project ever made.

Ruled by god-ai

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Imperialism mixed with Meritocracy.

The Han dynasty had it right.

This just in, Bioware games have terrible facial animations

Ah the fabled Mamatriarchy!

He said god, not lil' bitch.
Lil' bitch AI.
Abloo abloo humans.

I like your style.

Now step into the petterning machine.

Benevolent dictatorship.... Ruled by AI.

Fascism or communism.

Futacracy.

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Imperialism or Feudalism, let each planet or star system do their own government as long as they pay the taxes and provide the military service.

The Federation would be cool, but unless you have something like the CAST from Phantasy Star in charge, it wouldn't work.

Rigid facism. No intergalactic voting polls, no campaigning, no election years. Just a Meritocracy with high amounts of control over production in order to maximize their benefits to the people and remove the risks of a free market.

Anarco-syndycalism

Bioware being or not being SJWs had little to do with it. An inexperienced team with little budget and poor support is what leads to the clusterfucks.

>5 minutes in to extranet and chill she gives u this look

>fascism
>anything close to a meritocracy

Meritocracy has never worked for more than a generation.
It's also one of the furthest things from fascism.

>An inexperienced team
>An
There were multiple teams/studios and drama. Inexperienced wasn't even in the top 3 of their problems.

Is that symbol of mating press?

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This. Ryder is best Mass Effect. Better than Shepard. Stupidly cute personality fixed by a simple face edit.

Democracy's one and only virtue is its incredible stability, so what do you think?

>wanting to make abominations with your blood relative
>cute

I literally cannot think of a single non-selective democracy that lasted more than 100 years.
Which means by default these are oligarchies that are stable.

You seem to have severe brain damage. Could you please explain any of the things you just said?

Cryosleep sterilization bruh.

Second.

The only democracies I can think of that lasted any significant amount of time have restricted a large portion of the population from voting or having meaningful effect on the vote, becoming defacto oligarchies.

I had written about it once. Perfected Tyranny- an unfeeling expansionist force, obsessed with nothing but self preservation. It allows all under it to do whatever they want as long as the resources keep flowing and the basic power structure remains intact. In a science fiction setting, this is perfect because it allows entirely different species to serve under the same 'empire'.

Peaceful Utopian rat people that live in mega cities? They can live under the empire, and can contribute their skill in urban planning, their vast monetary resources, and unskilled physical labor.

Shredded zealot warrior aliens? They can serve the empire by war ships and troops, plus their experience in conquest.

Even a species that doesn't seem like it would fit, like a species who backstabs their leader at any opportunity, can serve in this empire. As long as you keep sending up the money, the man power, the energy crystals, it's not a problem what happens on the planetary level.

So 40k without the xenophobia

A democratic representative government would be best suited for a space faring civilization.

Something like a Federation or Confederacy would be centralized enough to defend itself against enemies and at the same time flexible enough to meet the demands of each sector.

The advantage that dictatorships have is strong centralized authority to enact laws quickly and function without much due process - but with a civilization as massive as one colonizing planets, there would be too many power groups pulling in different directions. It would lead to a civil war, almost inevitably.

A civilization that is decentralized is too far in the opposite direction, and would lose to alien civilizations with a greater capability to mobilize its forces and wage total war.

Even if the voting population is only something like 10%, thats really not the same thing as an oligarchy. And even if you can't think of any "true" democracy that lasted long, I can't think of a single one that ever fell, especially not since ancient greece and the like probably doesn't fall under your definition. At the end of the day, nothing will ever beat democracy for stability, because it gives the lower classes a sense of purpose and common buffer against any complaint("this is what the people wanted"), regardless of how much actual control they have.

Now, if you wanted to argue that modern democracy is an oligarchy due to the upper class being able to severely affect legislation, then you might have a point, but at the end of the day, democracy is still stable because it's democracy, even if the people only think that its a democracy.

>greek democracy
Man they had a TINY section of people who could actually vote. And who got official citizenship. Oligarchy as fuck.

Whatever hers was

This is only really good if there's a steady stream of inhuman aliens to shoot.

The Abh had an empire in which all spacefaring vessels were owned by the Emperor or Empress, and it was difficult for an Abh to rebel against the government due to genetically-engineered limits (though these weren't 100% guarantees, as the first season showed).

If they had managed to overcome the other nations, yes, the result would be very "stable".

>facism
>meritocracy
>maximize their benefits to the people
Damn nigga that's a funny ass joke.

It was why we had Asari bitching about their personal pronouns, though.

DEPENDS ON THE SETTING
In all seriousness, if your setting requires FTL and arbitrarily strong power sources to work, you might as well write fantasy. In that case, any government you can think of in a fantasy setting can be adapted to a sci-fi setting.
Without FTL or arbitrary power sources, then your "spacefaring" civilization won't be able to expand further than their own solar system (and even then only slowly), so the primary concern will be survival. In that case, a "government" would likely focus on rationing supplies, maintaining self-sustainability, and generally making sure the colony and colonists are assets rather than liabilities. Such a system would be governed more by protocols and procedures than people.

Whaaaa? Did they really have people from a genderless society bitch about gendered pronouns?

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What even the fuck

The Financial Megacorporation. The less care for individual human rights and the more useless shit to distract said individuals of their lack of rights the better.

how was the movie horsefucker?

There was also a transexual NPC who only existed to out herself as trans, she even randomly 'deadnames' herself without prompt. They pissed off enough people with that one they had to patch the dialogue.

Different user.

Pretty good. Extremely solid villain song, which is always important. The face animations were especially amazing for everyone, particularly for our villain and for Twilight when she was crying after screwing up immensely.

They straight-up kill the main villain. I always appreciate it when kids movies go all the way like that.

Arthur C. Clarke insists that large galactic governments are impossible because of their intolerable complexity. This is based upon a simple truth: As population grows arithmetically, the number of possible interactions rises geometrically.

...But all such attempts to showcase the "numbing complexity" of galactic government are unconvincing because information flows in interstellar empires needn't be all that serious, though we'll obviously need computer-bureaucrats to handle most of the red tape.

... Since silicon microcircuits can theoretically process ten billion times more data than human neurons, pound for pound and bit for bit, then maybe with computer help humans could run empires ten billion times larger than the historical imperial scale. The pre-computer Roman and British Empires ruled 30 million and 300 million people, respectively, before becoming too large. Perhaps a galactic empire using electronic administrators could handle 1019 people before it got too cumbersome. That's a billion planets with ten billion inhabitants each!

...According to Mosca's Rule: "The larger the political community, the smaller will be the proportion of the governing minority to the governed majority." Roberto Michels' "Iron Law of Oligarchy" goes still farther; asserting that growing political systems, especially empires, invariably evolve into more oligarchic (rule by the few) forms of government. So while democratic or republic empires are possible, as they grow they will slowly but implacably drift towards autocracy.

...Specialization leads to hierarchy and span of control. Hierarchy means levels of increasing managerial specialization, each level having supervisors of equal responsibility. Span of control is the number of subordinates administered by each supervisor.

Studies of government and private organizations show that the number of hierarchical levels and the span of control tends to increase as the whole system expands, but also that the two are complementary. For a given size, a wider span of control means fewer levels are needed above and below each span, producing a broad "flat" organizational pyramid. More levels means small spans suffice, giving a narrow "tall" organization with tighter control from the top. Humans seem naturally to prefer rather tall organizations, perhaps partially due to our simian heritage of vertical troupe dominance chains. Sentient extraterrestrials evolved from carnivorous cats or intelligent octopi, solitary creatures by nature, would favor flatter organizational structures.

...The best human organizations have spans of five subordinates per supervisor. Using this figure, a galactic empire controlling ten billion planets having ten billion inhabitants each would require at least 21 hierarchical levels. It is well known that human organizations with more than 6-8 levels become excessively bureaucratic.

...If we optimistically assume that a control span of 100 subordinates can be achieved for, say, human policymakers, then the number of hierarchical levels can almost be halved - from 21 down to 11.

Even with all this mechanized assistants, the Emperor will have absolutely no contact with non-interstellar personnel. His relationship with his magistrates would not be unlike those between the United States President and the mayors and city managers of American cities. To the Galactic Emperor, the starkeepers, each responsible for 100 worlds, will seem much as U.S. citizens appear to their President - with only a very rare audience being granted. Planetary governors are "the rabble."

she looks ridiculous, are her tits that gigantic in the game?

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Organizational specialist studying "control loss theory" say that in tall, human-like galactic organizations, memos would have to travel down through so many channels that most orders from top to bottom levels could be almost totally degraded to noise by they time they arrive. Economist Oliver Williamson devised a simple model to predict how goals generated at the top of a hierarchy are implemented at the bottom after passing down a number of levels in the chain of command.

If each message, on average, passes through a level 95% intact, then Williamson would claim that since orders must change hands 10 times, Sir Roger's Empire is (0.95)10 = 60% effective in carrying out its aims. At 85% per level (Williamson's lower limit based on studies of actual human organizations), effectiveness drops to 20% and only one-fifth of the Emperor's plans for the commoners ever reach fruition.

Peter B. Evans uses Williamson's control loss model to show that higher efficiencies are possible when the Emperor switches to "multiple hierarchy" systems, such as the dual hierarchy. If the Emperor creates a complete second command hierarchy in parallel with the first, his effectiveness rises by nearly two-thirds. The superiority of dual hierarchies is well-known in business (line-and-staff) and in public administration (especially Communist bureaucracies). Lattice structure systems are a more sophisticated form, involving a complete lattice of hierarchial links providing a startling multiplicity of pathways to the top. Such novel system my not encourage galactic stability, but the opportunities for palace intrigue are legion!

AI run governments are the future. Humans are not smart enough to run a galactic empire made of quadrillions over millions of years.

Avoid one big homogeneous government - that shit doesn't even work on one planet, let alone several planets separated by the vast gulf of space. In fact, every planet would likely have several states with a variety of governments, because that shit is memetic, not genetic - people are responsible for evolving ideas, so there is a propensity for greater diversity in shorter amounts of time.

If you must have a massive space-faring state, something able to incorporate a variety of cultures and lifestyles would fare best. Think of Hinduism as opposed to Christianity. When the Hindus encountered another culture with different gods, they were just like, "oh, cool. I like these three new gods so I'll add them to the ones I already worship." Christianity, like Judaism and Islam, are phobic by design - only those within the community of chosen are acceptable - if you don't accept the culture that comes with it, you aren't "in the club," so to speak. This strategy is very effective if the "club" has the muscle to enforce itself, but that is hard to achieve across several planets.
A space government that lets states under its domain have a lot of leeway in terms of writing their own laws and practicing their own traditions (so long as they pay taxes and don't violate a small set of cardinal laws that everybody has to follow) will be far more stable than a homogeneous Empire that rules with impunity. If you have FTL communication, a representative democracy would be fine. If not, something more like an ecclesiastical "creed of humanity" would be more realistic.

>Is that symbol of mating press?
It's the symbol of CORE.

Now please proceed to the patterning machine for the sake of public health.

>If they exist we will want to shoot them
>If they don't exist, we can make them and then shoot them
Humanity is in dire need of an enemy

Earth's government maintains its power over the colonies with the threat of roasting rogue ones with nicoll-dyson beams.

Mmmmm titties

>Christianity, like Judaism and Islam, are phobic by design - only those within the community of chosen are acceptable - if you don't accept the culture that comes with it, you aren't "in the club," so to speak.
So we're just going to ignore the slew of deities and folklore heroes who were made into saints or devils and the Festivals and Holidays who were copied over almost totally except made about Jesus or Allah or whatever?

>impossible schedule
>Had five years
>Game was made in 18 months because a the b team making it had a hard on for procedural world generation and wasted the rest of the time
>Made error after error in crunch time
>Scrapped a bigger chunk of work done and went with the smaller
>Outsourced/autogenerated facial animations
>Had little to no oversight on finished product that came back
The fucking b team that made it was a joke and dug their own grave. Don't fucking defend their retarded decisions

>That fucking group of photos by the door

You know, when Matriarch Aethyta did the whole "Yes I'm Liara's father, fuck you for confusing me for the mother bit" it was amusing because she was clearly upset by so many other things being a washed up bartender and all. That's just dumb without any of the buildup, guess that's what you get with a tiny budget and an unambitious team.

Ruled by keit-ai.

Brutal, totalitarian monarchy.

I'm sure i'll get told to go back to /pol/ but probably some form of national socialism if you're still in the "exploratory/colonization" phase.
1) labor based economy that creates "capital" by either the production of goods or labor used to produce those goods. This solves how you manage to keep things going on the ship and then when colonizing.
2) emphasis on small business economy, with all major industries controlled by the state. This puts autonomy in the hands of the ships themselves (as businesses) while helping to ensure that needed resources do not become exploited at the cost of the ships and crews. (imagine if you will a "volkswagon" of space ships, affordable, easy to repair, solidly built).
3) in a constant state of being prepared for war, just in case.
4) unified culture.

If we're in the settled phase of things, probably something based on the Roman Republic.