Pathfinder General /pfg/

I've never done it outside of a backstory situation. In general, my response to being pushed into a corner is to escalate by doing something stupid and/or unexpected.

At one point, I took the pope-equivalent hostage because the royal knights were chasing the team for crimes they didn't commit, and I got locked into a bad position. He was very understanding about the whole situation, since he was my friend, and I let him go the moment I was off the premises.

>FROGKNIGHT FROGKNIGHT FROGKNIGHT

gotta go fast

>good god for a frog priest
Wastri.

Didn't they do their writing in the 1800s? That sounds more...Zeus-ish, than God.

I'd guess that it was more like it was someone Zeus-ish but then it had to be God when whatever country it was from turned Christian.

The brothers Grimm were German. Germany was extremely Christian in the 1800s. Also regardless of where they were from no one worshipped Zeus in the 1800s.

How would a tiefling child act?

Do you use fumbles in your game? If so, how?

Like any kid who gets shunned all the time when he's not being actively threatened with violence.
Most likely like a kid who knows, at least instinctively, that he's unwanted even if his parents try to tell him they still love him.

Absolutely not, I strive to be a good GM and not implement houserules that fuck over the players.

Some of you are alright, don't go to Sandpoint tomorrow

Do you play without crits too then? Because statistically they also fuck over players.

What's the best way to be a 4 armed warlord bug man

Thri-keen obviously, but like play a path of war class since martial abilities are the most effective way of using multiple weapons?

Playing a necromancer in an evil campaign. Thing is I can't figure out why, in the Pathfinder Universe, anyone with high int, wis, etc would actually be evil. It's not even like there's a death deity that supports undead. If you want to be a necromancer, you've got to sign up with a bunch of entities that want to literally destroy reality and eat souls.
Even if you sign up with Asmodeus and company, you'd better be damn sure you're careful otherwise you're going to get shafted. Either way you have to work waaaay harder than someone who signs up with Desna or whatever. So the way I see it is that anyone with half a brain at least goes through the motions to go to a good plane when they die.
Am I missing something?

Mai waifu Urgathoa is crying right now at your ignorance, user, walking the path of undeath is all about working hard so that eventually you won't have to work at all and can spend your days partying and not feeding the machine Pharasma has set up for the afterlife, after all most people don't even go to an afterlife, they end up being reincarnated to fuel Golarion's plane.

>Am I missing something?
That goddess of undead, I guess?

Magical Knack some other trait, probably the one that gives +1 to monk attacks and damage.

1
Improved Initiative
Dragonheir Scion 1(Green Dragon)
Bonus Feat, Arcane Strike (swift action +1dmg +1dmg/5CL to all weapons)

Wizard 2-6 (full CL)

3
Unarmed Strike (Damage progession -2, d6)

5
Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike)

6 (d8)
Monstrous Physique I (Gargoyle)

Eldritch Knight 7-16 (full CL)
Bonus Feat (Ascetic Style)
7
Evasion

9
Monstrous Physique II (4 Armed Gargoyle)
Ascetic Form

10 (d10)

11
Ki Pool (-2 progression)
Bonus Feat (Martial Versatility, Claws)

It takes a while to get to martial versatility and without flurry either but at least you don't depend on others for the polymorph.

So at this point the 4 armed gargoyle (large) would do 2d8 -instead of d6- with 4 of his claws, an additional 3 from Arcane Strike, another d6 from Vine Strike and possibly 3d6 from Sense Vitals.

While it's important to have enough intelligence to cast all your needed spells, intelligence isn't that important to this build. BAB at lvl 11 would be 8.
Race has to be somewhat human, so Human, Half-Elf, Half-Ork or pass for Human Tiefling are some good choices.
I'd recommend Half-Elf for Paragon Surge and earlier entry to Martial Versatility.

VMC Monk

Ah! Ok. So most people just get sent for another loop. But why not go for Calistria? Then you don't have to worry about the Horsemen.

Problem still applies. Can you trust Urgathoa? Isn't it easier just to go chill with Desna who isn't actively hostile?

Even intelligent people can have vices. Be sod who likes to eat and fuck, pray to calistra and urgathoa. Dabble in necromancy so skellingtons do work for you. Become a fat fuck and lean more towards Urgathoa since shes the godess of fat fuck who like undead. Summon more undead to do you work. How do other people taste like?

What is/are your character flaw/s?

He's arrogant and brooding.

Personally I play my Urgathoean Cleric like a prospective slave owner who's not altogether pleased with the concept of enslaving people that are alive and conscious.

The Horsemen in Pathfinder are actually somewhat okay with undeath being Evil-aligned Daemons, heck the Ferryman himself is sometimes worshiped by those that practice necromancy and some just straight up undead.

She's naive as fuck. She grew up in a martial order that prides itself on it's extreme loyalty to it's fellow members and it's employers, so the vast majority of the people she's met are completely trustworthy with her life. Now she's graduated and is out on her first proper mission for the order.

You're doing it wrong.

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Groteus I recognize, but what wonders do I see before me?

It's from DA:I but I still like it.

Lamashtu, maybe?

I suppose it comes down to a question of how forgiving the good gods are. Like if you're NE by birth or whatever, and you try to be good because you realize that Demons eat souls and everyone's unhappy, will you get dispensation for trying hard. I figure you've got to try equally hard to catch an evil god's attention and your odds of getting screwed over anyways are higher.
But if the good gods are dicks about it, then getting Asmodeus' attention is about the only hope you've got.

Ah, cool.
I think I'll just worship the King in Yellow and try to bring about the wondrous transformation of all things.

about as bombastic, hammy, and lacking in subtlety as you'd expect someone to specializing in Evocation to be. and has about as much of a temper as anyone who specializes in Fire Magic would be expected to have. She Even has the requisite red hair, for Fuck's sake!

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We usually do it so a nat 1 implies an automatic miss or failure for any non-skill related action, plus another roll to confirm it. Only on a second nat 1 bad shit happens

>The best way to have high saves is to take a single level in every class plus two levels in anti/paladin with a high charisma
This is so dumb and yet so funny at the same time

>attack my players all night with gelatinous cubes
>on death they explode into DC 20 Save or Be Naked
>They make all 10 saves
Just fuck my shit up senpaitaichi

So, if my math is right, at level 20 a Paladin 2/Every other class with two good saves 18 ends up with
>31 Fortitude
>24 Reflex
>25 Will
And those are just the bases, all 1pp. Someone with more system knowledge than me could probably get them higher, i just went through the trouble of adding shit up
Fun fact! Reflex is the worst save overall for some reason, with only 12 classes out of 39 having it good

It seems a bit moot to look into class save bonuses and the like. There are so many save-boosting abilities and magic items that when it comes to actual sheet-building, this kind of data would be useless.

> It's not even like there's a death deity that supports undead. If you want to be a necromancer, you've got to sign up with a bunch of entities that want to literally destroy reality and eat souls.
No you don't. You can not be a little bitch and become an Arcane or Alchemical Necromancer. They don't interact with gods at all.

So why do you dislike your players so that you want to destroy all their equipment?

That's why you use fractional saves/BaB.

>implying I didn't give them regenerating clothes

She refuses to lie or cheat to get her way and yet is too proud to back down when challenged.

A. Has no way of processing emotion, because he was alternately raised by a sperglord wizard, and by hyper-masculine honor culture. Thus, he resorts to distraction, self-destruction, or dumping his problems on someone else then running.

B. Wrath. She's angry at everyone, especially herself, and is quick to pick fights where there may not be any.

C. Lack of confidence in her own choices, always looking for the approval of others, and prone to bouts of self-pity.

A: Apathetic, aloof and easy to anger as he is a bit of a paradox
B: Gambling and capriciousness
C: Fear of the dark and abandonment issues
D: Lonewolf mentality
E; Overly pragmatic and borderline psychopath
F: Gloryhound and boisterous

The Grimm brothers were collecting folk tales. It might have originally been about some pagan deity, but in the meantime Christianity came around and they had the names changed.

Then again, the old testament had the tribulations of Job. How's that for dickishness?

How likely do you think it will be that Blood of the Coven gets the changeling heritages errata'd to make some of them less dull? We've gotten heritage erratas before to fix a mismatch with flavor text, so it could happen right?

Probably not.

Companion books never get errata. The best you can hope for is a FAQ.

I'm going by precedent from previous books, but the pfsrd mistakenly labeled the FAQ changes as errata and I likewise did the same.

From last thread but Bloodthirst doesn't let you ignore the normal rules for attacking. You still need to have the range to actually hit the dude and make the roll to do so; standard action boasting to regain martial focus isn't actually that useful when you could just make a normal attack roll, or better yet use Barrage or Sniper sphere stuff to do more damage at range.

Fan Favorite and Derision + Bloodthirst lets you toss out free attacks like woah, though.

>dangerous amounts of paranoia
>massive insecurities
>a messiah complex a mile long
>alcoholism
>a club foot

These are split between three character’s mind you, but most have more than one of those.

Hi Disk

I want to dual wield shields. Can I do that with SoM?

Hi Disk, how's the campaigns going?

I get the first four, but which one of Disk's characters has a club foot?

Conscripts who specialize in the Shield sphere gain the ability at 3rd level to treat heavy and tower shields a light weapons (which helps with Dual Wielding, and also has nice synergy with the Tight Guard talent from the Boxing sphere).

The Equipment sphere has talents that allow you to make shield bashes with tower shields, and add your shield enhancement bonuses to the attack and damage of any attacks you make with your shield. The Shield sphere also includes a bunch of talents that attacking with a shield.

So yes, I think it is very possible to make a character who dual wields shields.

Witch going into the Iron Gods adventure path. Are debuff hexes even worth prepping against constructs or should I just focus on buffs, spells and making potions?

Is there any benefit you can derive from the Dimension of Dreams? If killing people in their dreams doesn't do anything, then what else can do you while you're there?

>then what else can do you while you're there?

Rape them?

I’m not Disk.

If the hex works on constructs, it works on robots. Otherwise buffing is better since IG is unironically the AP for martials.

What's stopping me from playing a bladebound Magus and his sword girlfriend, or having an Armiger be a harem protagonist but his girls are just his various weapons?

Hi Sleep.

Nothing. Your main weapon is a complete buttfuck insane yandere and whatever sideweapons are other deres, except the bow which is a tomboy.

Also not Sleep. I am someone who plays in /pfg/ games, but guessing games are pointless to actual thread discussion of the system and just breed drama because it insites all the e-celebs and their fans/haters to start to seep out the woodwork.

Hi Succ.

Common decency

The shit games you got into don't actually qualify you as someone who plays in /pfg/ games, Mashallah.

Why is Hagbound so bad, /pfg/?

It is perfectly fine. Stop raging just because you dont like something. The developers know what they are doing and until you actually play it, how can you know it is bad.

>The developers know what they are doing

Who is behind this post....?

Why the Green Dragon, though?
And may I suggest the Transmutation Specialist as the wizard archetype for the bonus to a physical stat everyday?

How does Veeky Forums feel about changing up "traditional" monster abilities and weaknesses to better reflect the setting's tone/GM's vision.

For example, if your GM informed you vampires no longer care about running water and garlic, but can't take gaseous form? Would you mad?

Variant creatures exist.

Pathfinder's monsters according to the bestiary are already was off the course when it comes to traditional strengths and weaknesses so if your players complain about it despite knowing that I'd tell them they're being dumb.

Redpill me on Ruins of Azlant.

Just got Spheres of Might. Is there a tier listing for the new classes yet?

Nothing wrong with that, everyone's got a different idea of what vampires (or whatever) are supposed to be like and if my idea doesn't match Paizo's I'm going to change them.

>Just got Spheres of Might. Is there a tier listing for the new classes yet?
Everything is tier 4, essentially.

How is the whole martial combat system?

The aboleths did -5293 AR

wait, what? Really?

Play Starfinder.

It's clear as day to anybody who isn't affected by Baleful Polymorph. Earthfall was an inside job! The meteor was packed with an old god, why else would it blow up all of Avistan? Starstone can't melt ancient wizards!

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Shill your shit thread elsewhere.

Ded game ded thread

>When you exploit GM's dickery for a cool factor
So monsters always hit us, nomatter our AC, so I decided to go full cool put weights on my char, a lot of weight. My AC falls you say? Who cares, enemies were already hitting me always, my speed falls? Who cares I was already have +30 ft movement from impossible speed

I'm still going to lose, but at least I have an excuse now

What feats would you recommend for a Bounty Hunter-kind of character?

Yes, and no.

You do not present a Lawful Good dragon Sciciple-sorcerer+ unchained monk with the soul of a chained up deity and say "Do what I say or the god gets it."

Fuck you, GM, for throwing a four armed mythic balor armed solely with vorpal whips with increased crit ranges at us. There was no chance to survive on the basis of potential headshots alone. You should know better.