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This meme of posting a fucking GoT image with "aarghh" is the most fucking autistic thing I've seen on these threads since Esdese. It's really fucking embarrassing, please stop.
Jordan Miller
How come the ecclesiarchy has better force fields in the form of rosariuses than the mechanicus who only have refractor fields, even on cawl?
John Cruz
>mfw eldar armies are immune to my shooting
Charles Allen
No, the first 3 Codexes are UP. Death Guard and everything afterwards is fine.
Evan James
So its the exact same problem as 7th edition
Connor Kelly
Because Rosarius' are basically Refractor Fields that stack with the Shield of Faith 6++ granted by the Emperor to Ministorum units.
Christopher Nelson
as 6th edition
as 5th edition
Colton Williams
Is this actually how it works? Surely orks would still hit on 6 no matter how many penalties there are
Hunter Bailey
Heard in the last thread that Malanthropes are OP. So I had to make one to babysit my dickheads.
Thomas Gomez
Because GW intentionally gimped the admech on tabletop >make all the imperiums shit >get none of it
Cooper Hernandez
No
They didnt introduce formations and decurions until halfway through 7th, the first few codexes were garbage compared to the later ones
Luke Diaz
No 7th was much much worse, about half the armies were total trash, not just 2-3 of them, and the disparity between the top and bottom tiers was much wider.
Once Chapter Approved and the rest of the major Codexes come out the meta will be a lot better.
Alexander Reyes
That's only on overwatch.
Samuel Reyes
Now my fluffy list for Eldar feels like it is going to be kind of meaner than I wanted it to be. Couple of units of rangers, then some Wraithblades and Wraithguard, a Fighter of some kind, Wraithlord or Wraithseer, Farseer, Nightspinner, and some swooping hawks, maybe some vipers.
Ryder Cook
yes
Anthony Wood
No. Nothing in the rules lets you hit on a 6 regardless of penalties. Orks with a -2 to hit just auto-miss every shot.
Jonathan Wilson
Aaaargggghhhh
Hudson Miller
>GW reintroduces stacking modifiers that make it impossible to shoot eldar. >Because gw is too fucking lazy to give every faction unique traits.
Fuck this bland piece of shit edition, I want formations back. At least when they were op they were interesting and not just the same copy pasted derivative crap as everyone else except one faction gets slightly more crap.
Thomas Watson
...okay I chuckled. But seriously, stop forcing this meme.
Owen Ramirez
IG are gonna get raped HARD by eldar
Jaxon Reyes
t. boring shootingshitter
Andrew Nelson
We are back bitches
Jacob Edwards
90% of Formations never saw play and the rest were just "here's 500 points of free shit and upgrades" or "here have every USR in the book for no cost"
Hunter Davis
So all tanks get the same buff or something? Hammerheads gonna shoot twice now too hopefully
Jordan Williams
I'm not even the guy who does it. I just saw an opportunity and went with it. And user, we both know bitching almost always only encourages anything
Zachary Morris
No. Hammerheads are fine, Prisms and Russes were utter trash and needed the buff. Hammerheads will probably get some sweet stratagem though.
If anyone needs a shoot twice it will probably be Broadsides.
Jonathan Price
Orks just keep getting worse with every new codex
They're setting us up for another horribly disappointing codex
Luke Hall
>Linked Fire
Jaxon Martin
NOOO the Imperium is 1st!
Carson Carter
Is there any place in the rulebook or faqs that specifies that you can only consolidate with units that fought in the fight phase?
Carter Bell
>Orks >caring about a hit penalty from over 12" away >when they can just charge with over9000 boyz and delete anything they touch >b-but flyers- >stormboyz exist, shut up
Carter Lopez
>If anyone needs a shoot twice it will probably be Broadsides. Definitely wouldn't mind, love railsides.
Connor Martin
Why don't astartes get their traits on vehicles? Everyone else does, and they often get the same traits we do.
Landon Wright
Uh, yeah, maybe read the Fight phase rules dumbass. Consolidating is the last step of fighting.
Alexander Price
they do on dreadnoughts.
Nicholas Jenkins
Hammerheads getting the option to move half their speed and not take a penalty to their too hit mod would be an interesting one as a passive rule to them. Give Broadsides the ability to fire twice only if they don't move at all (need to stabilize themselves) would also make sense.
Caleb Hernandez
What's the minimum accuracy needed to hit these guys? Guards can still hit on 6 right?
Evan Fisher
Because your codex was first so you get shafted.
Anthony Green
>just charge with boyz :^)
do you have any idea how difficult it is to effectively charge with boyz?
And how easy it is to counter boyz by just deploying correctly?
Angel Brooks
Because it was a legacy holdover from 7th edition Chapter Tactics and then GW decided in future Codexes that was a dumb idea because it sells less tanks.
Ian Reed
Eh. I am not worried about rangers at all. Just charge the fuckers. Hemlock is annoying, but it's tricky for them to keep concealed. Generally ignoring it or getting close with Dakkajets may be the best option for Alaitoc Hemlocks. It would be super amusing to charge it with a big squad of Stormboyz though.
Blake Howard
Why don't they just do all. Of the Eldar releases at once. Then they can make a collector's edition Compendium Aeldari and sell it for 500$ to overweight man children?
Parker Powell
Guard normally hit on 4+, so yes, at -2 you hit on a 6.
Xavier Lopez
No.
Bs4 becomes Bs7+ to hit with a -3.
Ryan Jackson
>OP No they're not. They just make Venomthropes completely obsolete, since they are more durable, can protect Non-infantry units with their shrowd and are both synapse and psykers. Alright, they might be a little bit OP.
Sebastian Barnes
>do you have any idea how difficult it is to effectively charge with boyz? >can Advance+charge and re-roll charges >have a psychic power to deep strike anything mid-game
>And how easy it is to counter boyz by just deploying correctly? >Eldar >having anything that can counter charging units cheaply
Liam Ramirez
Doesn't matter. They were still far more interesting, and just as fucking balanced as -3 to hit lol everyone is alpha legion.
Angel Jackson
>Why don't they just do all. Of the Space Marine releases at once. Then they can make a collector's edition Compendium Astartes and sell it for 500$ to overweight man children?
Hudson Fisher
Any eldar army can take a detachment of dark eldar and screen with crows.
Ryder Hughes
Perfect. Except SM would be 750,let's be real here.
Jose Cooper
>have a psychic power to deep strike anything mid-game Do you know hoe fucking difficult it is to deepstrike a blob of 30 models while staying 9" away from enemy models?
Even if you can do it, if you fail that charge that unit of boyz is dead
Ive had an entire unit of 30 boyz removed from the board after charging mortarion
Carson Powell
1cp Use at the start of the shooting phase All rail weapons replace their type with rapidfire
Caleb Morris
>Ive had an entire unit of 30 boyz removed from the board after charging mortarion wow! what a rare occurence!
Isaac Morales
I like that FW put in some thought for the tigershark and made magnet slots for ease of swap setups. Also, what are the 4 tigershark variants? That is what the post says, that you can build 4 different ones
Angel Long
>GW reintroduces stacking modifiers that make it impossible to shoot eldar. wait what?
Juan Perry
>charging mortarion >the guy who deletes hordes >charged him with BOYZ
Luis Kelly
...
Sebastian Wright
They are not psykers, but they are quite good. >prey adaptation
David Phillips
Flocks are 14 points apiece. Why would you bother?
Luis Wood
Conceal only works on INFANTRY or BIKES. The plane can only get to -2.
Michael Clark
What about Vindicators? They need a buff too, doesn't have to be the shoot twice thing but they need something. d3 shots at 24" on a 10" T8 heavy tank, for the price of an entire infantry squad, seems pretty meh to every other tank in the game. Loyalist vindicator can't even back it up with a havoc launcher and meltagun.
Demolisher cannon has no reason not to be an unconditional Heavy d6 like other large blast weapons. It now has a smaller blast than a frag missile or havoc missile, nice going GW. Buffing it would also give guardfags a reason to take a Demolisher cannon over the executioner plasma cannon or gatling gun of doom.
Andrew Roberts
Here's the thing...
The plane is a psyker, so it can cast it on itself.
Logan Wilson
The AX 1-0 has big railguns and can use ions or burst cannons for the turrets.
The fighter/bomber can use big bursts, big ions, or little railguns for main armament.
Nicholas Myers
The demolisher is already the best anti-tank russ.
Levi Carter
But not the rest, and all the other vehicles are still crewed by astrartes. CSM get legion traits on their fucking Cultists, which makes even less sense. So, any chance Chapter Approved fixes that?
Luke Sullivan
>-3 to hit lol Only with a Flyer, successfully casting a Psychic power, staying more than 12" away.
Deny conceal, deep strike within 9" of it and light it up, Smite it, charge it with Flying units, jesus christ get gud.
Nathan Lopez
yes chapter approved will make your dreams come true and you'll never have to complain on /th/ again :)
Is it? Then buff the Vindicator itself rather than the cannon, let it get +1 to hit stationary targets or something because it is a siege tank.
Hudson Fisher
>Ive had an entire unit of 30 boyz removed from the board after charging mortarion Holy shit, shocker. A 450ish point unique Primarch specifically geared towards fucking hordes deleted a 180pt blob of basic Troops???
I guess Boyz can literally never beat Eldar then. That's the clear logical conclusion here.
Juan Lee
They can only do it once per turn, at least two prisms MUST target a single unit regardless of if it was destroyed or not (you already selected the target after all) and 2 Fire Prisms average 16 wounds with it. Every subsequent tank is reduced to a sedate 3.55 wounds per vehicle. That's really not that bad if you don't use any Baneblades or other superheavies. If you cry at loosing a Leman Russ to two enemy units of equal points value, you probably shouldn't be guard-ing.
Jaxson Rivera
>I can't delete half the board >buff needed!
Chase Nguyen
Slight possibility CA fixes it, but don't bet your house on it or anything.
Oliver Wood
So? It's neither infantry nor bike so it does not gain the benefit of its own aura.
David Roberts
Neat
I'd like to see a different buff rather than copy paste the other ones. I dunno, maybe if you move 0 you double damage or something for example
Carson Foster
What was I supposed to charge him with?
Something more expensive that would have died just as easily?
Chase Garcia
>Ive had an entire unit of 30 boyz removed from the board after charging mortarion Charging 180pts vs. 450pts.
Should of used 75 Boyz instead
Ayden Hill
I have to say though, for the faction that coined the term dakka it's pretty shitty thaf they don't have the volume of fire to make up for their awful accuracy. Orks are shit at shooting, and they shouldn't be.
Mind you, that's shooting, not hitting. If they hit half as much as anyone else but shoot twice that's fine. But currently there's winning lists that take 60pt Weirdboys as their only ranged iffense. That ain't right.
Ethan Robinson
'Attacks that target the psyker OR infantry/bikes within 3"'.
Ryan Taylor
Hmmmm The Talisman of Burning Blood just seems so good. Like, I want to take the Axe of Blind Fury, but the Talisman is pretty tempting too and seems like a better idea.
Brandon Ward
>Your opponent must subtract 1 from all hit rolls for ranged weapons that target the psyker or friendly ASURYANI INFANTRY or ASURYANI BIKER units within 3" of the psyker until your next Psychic phase. >Targets the PSYKER
William Kelly
Spend the command point and take both?
Lucas Ramirez
Wew lads looks like it’s time to go full Nazi
Mason Jones
Well, Mortarion is the best infantry blender in the game. He kills 18 GEQ a turn on combat alone, before auras, powers and shooting.
Anthony Nguyen
Just spend a CP, get both.
Jack Powell
I'd just like it if they had comparable firepower to a Predator's main gun. Right now, you're a fool if you're trying to use Hammerheads to kill enemy vehicles.
Nathan Gonzalez
But you can’t put them both on the same model though.
Isaiah Price
>tfw just got 10 more Flash GItz and 2 Supa-Kannon Wagons >tfw I know my shooty boyz list will never work but I love the idea too much
Levi Gray
Nigga you running a patrol or something?
Just put one on your main warlord or whatever, another on your dark apostle/exalted champion.