>Previously, on /5eg/ How do you normally start your campaigns?
Colton Flores
>How do you normally start your campaigns? I start in a tavern. I know, I know, it's cliche as all hell. But if I have the players group up or pair off beforehand so they know each other, it works out pretty well and it gives me the chance to introduce NPCs.
Adrian Flores
by including the UA link
Jonathan Sanchez
Was thinking of including quori in my ToA campaign and have them just act as more competent gou'ld. Stop me now, bros.
Samuel Torres
Boss encounter for my 3rd level group is a bandit that's been horribly mutated and corrupted by a strange artifact. They're going to fight him in a large room. His gimmick is that he casts darkness on the edges of the room and ceiling, and he darts in and out of it, maybe even occasionally pulling somebody into it.
What's a cool way for my party to overcome this advantage? What should I put in the room in order to level the playing field and offer them methods to counteract him if they're clever enough?
Juan Nelson
Anyone know of a way to search creatures by traits/actions/spells?
Sebastian Murphy
The artifact is in the center of the room, if they whack it with fire it pulses and blasts light that removes the darkness
Lucas Jackson
Last game started with my players having a picnic.
Ian James
>What's a cool way for my party to overcome this advantage? What should I put in the room in order to level the playing field and offer them methods to counteract him if they're clever enough? Overcome? Level the playing field? Fuck that. It's the PC's jobs to figure that shit out. If they come up with something clever, let it work.
Eli Kelly
>How do you normally start your campaigns? In medias res. I usually want to lead things off with the party already having met up and be in an eventful situation. I tend to find it helps avoid issues when someone's character is more stubborn or passive and would be harder to convince to help out, so you can skip past that part and get to the point where they're on a quest or dealing with a problem.
Angel Reed
I'd rather give them something to work with in a room that's just a blank slate atm. It's hard to get creative if you have nothing to work off of, especially with the limited resources of a 3rd level party.
Angel Torres
>yfw hexblade/paladin/sorcerer tiefielings will soon be completely legal
Nicholas Carter
How do I decide between pact of chain and pact of tome? I know that tome potentially can outscale chain, but it involves an invocation tax, and needs to be taken in a setting where ritual scrolls are available.
Henry Miller
Got done with another fun, awesome session. God damn DMing is fun, holy shit.
Hudson Sanders
What's the point of a paladin/hexblade? Some iteration of the smite invocation is likely to be in Xanthar's.
Whichever sounds more fun. Chain gives you utility in a very unique way. Tome is pretty straight forward.
Jayden Sanders
Ah, but user, you forgot rule 0.
Levi Sanchez
You posted the same exact post yesterday. Stop it. I'm glad you enjoy the game but this isn't furthering discussion.
Austin Adams
>Play a Shillelagh/Booming Blade based Raven Queen Warlock >Fight three fucking demons in immediate succession >Still managed to outdamage both of the party paladins and even kill two of the three >Even though they were both of a higher level than me as well That shit was satisfying as hell.
Ayden James
No one is allowed to have if you're not having fun, right, autist?
Aiden Wood
>What's the point of a paladin/hexblade? cha on melee weapons and other perks to improve paladin smites (and warlock smite had its merits over paladin one in the most recent UA)
more importantly edge points for picking paladin + spoooooooooky paladin
>yfw adventure league
Christian Miller
I would assume a 2 level dip in Hexblade for the usual Warlock benefits, while also getting Charisma based melee attacks and a free not!Hex every short rest.
James Wright
>adventure league I am genuinely sorry user.
Wyatt Nelson
Ranger pride worldwide.
Juan Kelly
>yfw you play with people who aren't retarded murderhobo munchkins, so who cares?
Lucas Gonzalez
>tfw I want to be a trap but I'm way too masculine to pass
Leo Reyes
>tfw one of my players is playing as a trap and is surprised when a woman screams for the guards when he flashes his bulge
Colton Howard
How does ToA stack up compared to some of the previous adventures?
Lincoln Kelly
does him playing as a trap actually add anything to the campaign or is it just some xd so random shit
Jeremiah Ramirez
i read through it and i love it ive already got a group together to run it first session next weekend
Connor Ortiz
>is it just some xd so random shit His girlfriend made him play a trap character so yes
Nolan Garcia
>pussy whipped lady boy you've got a fucked up group senpai
Jonathan Ramirez
>Playing as a trap Sure, whatever floats your boat >Flashing his bulge Literally why
David Martinez
I've been changing a lot in my own game but it's amazing fun. Perkins and Wizards really outdid themselves. While CoS and OotA require specific mindsets and a certain mood to play and SKT can also get bogged down with tedious drama, ToA is pure sandboxy fun. It's pulp adventure, there's a lot of exploration and discovery.
Bentley Cox
The woman was a merchant and he was trying to get a discount on an alchemy kit. He's the chaotic stupid one so I can't really say that it surprised me
William Scott
Kill his character.
Angel Collins
>Playing shit like AL >Ever
Logan Mitchell
Living the fucking dream.
Henry Garcia
We will miss you Stone Sorcerer/Hexblade you were too good for this world.
Guess that means this is reality now! >Vengence Paladin/Hexblade >Swords Bard/Hexblade Singing blades BABY >Shadow Sorcerer/Hexblade >Draconic/Hexblade
Anyone else really exited for this?
Joshua Hall
>tfw you have to pay a heavy invocation tax to be effective as a warlock >your DM never rewards you with extra invocations >another player makes the DM hate warlocks after he multiclasses sorclock
Playing this class is suffering.
Alexander Gray
Not really. It just makes Warlock dipping more degenerate than it already was.
Aiden Perry
am i justified in being put off by my dm magically changing my class and race? he says it was some sort of magical effect but we have no idea what happened or why i was a tiefling warlcok, but in a flash of light i became an aasimar paladin we were just in a basement in some city so it wasnt even anything special i asked him if it was possible for me to change back but he just said "youll have to wait and see" does anybody have any idea whats going on here?
Evan Hall
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Adam Nguyen
Your character is the only thing that the player should have complete agency over and your dm is an ass for railroading you into completely changing it
Benjamin Walker
s-scan when...
John Cox
Yeah I'd feel put off. It's your character, outside of killing it, he should talk to you about what he wants to do.
Ian Garcia
your DM is being an arsehole
Juan Williams
Give him a chance to do something with it. Sounds gay but if your DM is coming at it from the right place he's created a scenario that is ultimately designed to bring enjoyment to his players, including you. It sounds like it just happened and you're really frustrated, which means you're not very likely to be in the right mindset to enjoy it even if it ends up being cool.
If he doesn't let you revert within the next couple of sessions I'd tell him that you're frustrated and want to play the character you made, not the one he made. If he reverts you beforehand and you genuinely don't like the way the whole thing played out, make sure to let him know. Most DMs want feedback from their players, especially when they pull risky shit like this.
The best advice I can give is to give it a genuine chance.
Wyatt Richardson
>Scan of a book no one has yet
Liam Gonzalez
hey that looks like a real book scan it plz user
Brody Robinson
Race I might let it slide, but changing class sounds like bullshit. Did your DM tell you to completely redo your character sheet to be a Paladin? If so he's all but telling you what character you should play and that's just not up to him, otherwise it might be temporary.
Michael Jenkins
well obviously somebody has it
Charles Smith
What pact and oath?
Robert Morales
he didnt have me redo my character sheet, he gave me one of those premade ones thats formatted totally different
Easton Hernandez
>He replaced your character with another character entirely what the fuck
Julian Gray
i dunno i havent even read the thing i stopped paying attention to the session after he did it because i didnt feel like playing any more
Aiden Lewis
What type of warlock were you?
Gabriel Ross
WotC have it. I don't think they are going to scan it though, no matter how nicely you ask
Adrian Jenkins
we need a man on the inside...
James Hill
>clerics that worship vauge concepts instead of gods are a thing again
is this whole book just for munchkins?
Easton Russell
pact of the tome, fiend patron
Julian Rodriguez
I could see a Fey patron pulling something but I doubt a fiend would turn you into some kinda meant to hunt them down.
Adam Rivera
That was a thing in the PHB
David Flores
Will hexblades warlocks just end up as Eldritch blast spammers like they are in the playtest?
Hunter Clark
More likely they'll end up as dips
Christopher Martin
no idea. all we know is that cursebringer is getting reworked and instead of a shadow hound they get some kind of ability to temporarily bind ghosts
Jackson Flores
No, they'll end up as paladins because everyone is only going to dip and multiclass.
Nicholas Collins
that was already in the DMG, it's probably just expanding on that
some of these classes have a couple of pages before they start talking about subclasses (sorcerer starts on 48, subclasses are on 50), guess it's just more fluff?
Benjamin Rivera
I dunno. I'm getting a more 'second DMG' vibe from this rather than a splat book. Most of the thing is just full of rules variants for running a game and character names. Compared to EE or SCAG, it certainly feels more like this is for the DM's sake, rather than the players, even if it does have subclasses and spells.
Ian Gray
Which UA was Gloom Stalker?
Andrew White
Deep stalker ranger
Connor Evans
deep stalker, it was in the revised ranger UA
Benjamin Walker
So who's parties are playing this weekend? What cool stuff is coming up in your campaigns?
My party isn't playing for a while but in my next session, I'm going to have one of my players backstory finally become relevant. In his backstory, the PC accidentally killed a man, and I'm bringing that victim back as a revenant. The players know his backstory but the party doesn't so there's potential drama, there's going to be the mystery of who has been helping this revenant which is going to end up being the Warlock's patron. The Patron is a GOO and so shit is gonna get weird. I'm hyper hyped for this...but it's a month away. Let me live vicariously through you guys /5eg/
Dylan Murphy
This tbdesu. As a level 13 warlock player, I hate how this board thinks warlock is a one-night stand of a class.
Joseph Lewis
Tell your DM that you're uncomfortable with this and that he should have asked you before he changed your character wholesale and that you want to play your own character not his. There's really no justification for violating your agency as a player on a level like this.
Matthew Carter
Wizards have it, friend.
The Light, Dark, Underdark UA, it was originally known as the deep stalker ranger.
Nathaniel Cruz
>cursebringer is getting reworked Thank fucking god
>selling your soul for a cantrip and also the ability to make someone feel bad
Parker Cooper
Do you even know what a munchkin is?
Noah Peterson
literally none of the patreons involve selling your soul besides maybe fiend
Lucas Williams
Next session my players are going to be fighting a sea hag grandmother that's been spreading a depression curse over a port town. She's going to offer them all bargains that are backstory relevant and I'm curious if any of them would be dumb enough to actually take the bargain.
Ayden Smith
Is the Samurai archetype any good?
Easton Campbell
Obviously the DM is pulling some redemption shenanigans (or trying to play on the assumption that he is). But it's still not something you ever do without getting the player's explicit approval first.
Justin Nelson
So new to this : How do you guys like the Martial Adept Homebrew class, those of you who've played or played someone who used it?
David Allen
How is the new ancestral barbarian in terms of ease of use and effectiveness?
Benjamin Kelly
Just finished my group's session this week actually. Got to sneak into an enemy capital, sneakily beat up some guards (Barbarians are scary even when unarmed), and next session we'll be sneaking through the catacombs to get into the castle proper
Aaron Collins
i told him i wanted to switch back and he just told me to wait and that i was lucky that he let me stay the same gender
Adrian Wilson
Yeah. I get what WotC was going for with making Eldritch blast a reliable ranged option, but it requires no investment aside from 2 levels to basically be a Fighter from then on.
The Charisma sword thing is just gonna make it worse. People were already taking Tome for Shillelagh, but now it can just be any one-handed weapon they want and not require as much setup.
Jayden Peterson
>SCAG: 10 archetypes, 4 spells, 200 pages of setting information >XGE: 30 archetypes, clearly more spells, bunch of DM advice XGE may be great for DMs, but it's also more of a splat than anything we've ever gotten for 5e.
Logan Flores
>i told him i wanted to switch back and he just told me to wait and that i was lucky that he let me stay the same gender Nah there's no way he can justify it now, tell that cunt you came to play a character you want to play and that it is 1000% bullshit he's trying to pull this without talking to you first.
Easton Rogers
Some of those spells and archetypes are likely repeats, but I get what you mean. It still feels like too much too fast.
Julian Sullivan
Most of them require SOMETHING from the character, though, because otherwise the patron has no reason to give them power. (GOO obviously being an exception) That said, >Implying powergamers are going to bother justifying their multiclass dip
Isaac Williams
Unfortunately this really depends on the DM and I don't know how many times I've seen DMs not use a plot hook literally handed to them
David Watson
I think he might have read up on some of those oldschool traps from AD&D, since I recall one that literally flips someone's alignment and gender, so he might have taken it a step further and applied the alignment bit to your race as well.
Still extremely odd, and if you weren't prodding some obviously dangerous magic item it's way too drastic a punishment for 5e. At the very least, he should have let you make the Paladin.
Connor Johnson
Never even heard of it, but I assume it's a Tome of Battle adaptation. Can you post it? Very few homebrew classes are good.
>i was lucky that he let me stay the same gender >let me He sounds like a douche.
Lucas Powell
i just checked and its the oath of vengeance by the way so idk if the redemption route is accurate
Jackson Baker
>tfw you will never find a sex change trap to intentionally trigger
Henry James
If it were just alignment and gender I could understand, but the race and class is a little much. Also that added "let you" is something that doesn't sit right with me as a DM
Kevin Roberts
There's a certain amount of give and take between the players and the DM. An implicit trust that even when he's behind the DM screen and you're all on the other side that you all are working together and just want to have a good time.
This is not that. If your DM wanted to give you a redemption arc he wouldn't have effectively replaced your character with one of his own making. He would have asked you if you thought such a thing was right for your character, backed off if you didn't want it, and he could have done it in any number of ways that wouldn't just flat out replace your character.
If he won't budge, then you don't have any reason to be there anymore because he's effectively not even letting you play the game.
Gavin Phillips
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William Reyes
Good, keep your fetishes out of the game unless it is specifically that type of game or so subtle that you don't even have to bring it up to have it happen.
Joshua Martin
it wasnt even a trap as far as im aware it literally just happened randomly while we were searching a basement in a city because the owner of the house had been hearing noises down there