Which 40k army do you think would make the best facsimile for a modern army? Something utilizing modern/advanced warfare tactics?
I'm thinking of assembling a more "realistic" (as far as 40k can go) list, focused around contemporary warfare tactics. I'd be interested in what people have to weight in - I know not all methods of modern war are the same, so it's good to have some variety.
That said, I was expecting some standards to crop up, like a focus on ranged/mechanized over assault, flexible command, and elite trailblazers.
I was thinking Imperial Guard, obviously, but they seem a bit too Napoleonic and numerous, while some less choppy Space Marine lists might work as well. Maybe even Tau. What do you guys think? Aesthetics don't really matter, but I feel like walkers/plasma/psykers might be out of place. How would you best go about this? I'm interested in the discussion as much as the result. I understand we're sort of between 7th and 8th still, but give it your best go!
>Something utilizing modern/advanced warfare tactics? No such thing exists in 40k. The best you'll ever get is WWI tactics.
Daniel Harris
IG Vets/Stormtroopers (tempestus scions, whatever) probably fit the best - still human, but making common use of mechanized infantry (including not!MRAPs) and airborne.
The TS fit more for operators, while vets work if you want to account for heavy stuff
Josiah Myers
Only aerial type (air cavalry/paratrooper/air drop whatever) modern warfare exists: Militarum Tempestus and Elysian Drop Troops.
Nathan Roberts
Imperial Guard, Space Marines, or Tau would probably work best. All of them can have mechanized infantry with armoured support.
Joshua White
>The best you'll ever get is WWI tactics you dropped your extra I.
Henry Taylor
Literally any army can function in a facsimile of modern earth tactics - that's half the point of 40k, That said, Astra Militarum or T'au would be your best bet.
Oliver Collins
>T'au
Robert Davis
Please refer to me by my name when you talk to me - I am Shas'ui T'auva, and I sexually identify as one of the mighty T'au, far cleverer than us with their superior Greater Good. For the Greater Good!
Nicholas Robinson
>Tau are just the japs in space DONE
Chase Anderson
In the sense of combined arms I think the Tau would best fit the bill They are all about units working together to get the best results Effective use of officers in the field The battlesuits being focused around lightning strikes for the most part Focus on fighting at a distance instead of melee Only the fact that they use mecha's (they look cool, but wouldn't work as well as a normal tank obviously)
Colton Murphy
IG is your best bet. mechanized infantry, tank squadrons, paratroops, and best of all a shoot army that makes use of a command structure.
space marines wouldn't fit well due to their preference for melee, take it or leave it attitude with transports, and tactics that aren't "kill it so hard it dies to death"
Tau are a close second, but due to their effectiveness suffering with the lack of battle suits and lack of most other functions of a modern army I would advise against.
ignoring all this why is this even being asked? the point of 40k is to have sweet ass grimdark sci Fi shit like robo zombies space bugs and giant power armored maniacs with equally large guns.
Julian Wood
I always imagined them as chinks in space, due to space sun tzu and the commie shtick
Isaac Nelson
>why is this even being asked
For the perverse joy of watching an army of superhuman daemon-men being killed by what is effectively SEAL Team 6 with artillery/air support. The reason most people like Guard.
Jace Bennett
Armaggedon's a good choice, since they practice modern mechanized warfare instead of the retarded shit the other excuses for guardsmen use
>le soviet human wave meme
>entire society is based explicitly on classes >communist
Charles Fisher
The "Elysian Drop Troops" and Harakoni, there are all kinds of regiment in the guard
Jayden Sanchez
Armegeddon and the flyboy planets are both looking good. Anybody know anything concerning the crunch? Which have good regiment tactics?
Also props to the Guardsmen fans pulling through. None of that “it can’t be done” bullshit.
Reminder that black library wrote a book with a straw man 20th century world to knock down, where space marines matrix-dodge special forces, take Abrams shots, punch said Abrams in half, and destroy the world's government by teleporting terminators into the UN.
>i think you're lying so I'll just use le ebin "citation needed" meme
Call of the Lion, Horus Heresy series.
Ayden Roberts
it's a good thing that they're using outdated weaponry and equipment then
Cooper Miller
I meant in terms of rules. Like which regiment tactics to use.
Yes, but I’m talking tabletop. Are you one of those people like Chaos players who whenever they lose go “yeah but Chaos wins in the end anyways”? I dont care about the details of the lore. Any army can beat any other army if you play with enough skill, ideally, it doesn’t matter what the lore says.
Zachary Diaz
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Christian Fisher
Imperial
James Cook
Guard
James Parker
Someone I knew used an IG resembling Modern Day US Army/Marines - Merikan Fusiliers, having been formed inTerra, when it had seas. Their symbol (and tattoo) was something a LOT like the US Marine/Navy logo, but replace the circular bit with an image of Terra (before it got turned into a Hive). iirc a friend of theirs made them, too, or it was something Veeky Forums made.
I didn't interact with them in the RP I had set up - the person who WAS a Merikan got shunted into a Penal Legion for cowardice (read: got seperated from his unit, captured by Dark Eldar, was tortured, got abandoned when they got bored, swam and ran three days back to his unit... right into the Commisar), but I remember an autogun and a bolt pistol.
I also wrote up something involving modern-day US drill instructors being Commisars, wearing goofy fucking multi-cam coats, ordering dirtbags to do push ups until their arms literally fell off.