Why do people try to fight Giants in Melee?

Why do people try to fight Giants in Melee?
It just seems nigh impossible. Heck, even in the tale of David and Goliath, likely the most well known giant fight in history, David took Goliath down with a ranged headshot.

Assuming melee is on the table, what are viable option for taking one down in melee?
(Inb4 "depends on the setting: assume three primary giant types for this argument: 9 foot "Goliaths," 15-30 Foot "Fantasy Giants," "And Pacific-Rim level Titans).

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Because it's cool.

Also, you're in a fantasy setting. That it seems unrealistic is, at least in many cases, entirely irrelevant.

You just made this thread as an excuse to post fetish art, didn't you.

Because in most settings where giants exist, square-cube law doesn't exist and strength isn't proportional to mass, meaning you can kill a giant with raw muscle. Size doesn't matter.

WTF sort of closed minded thinking question is this.

Just kill it in one hit. It's not hard.

It's a mental illness that affects a lot of people on Veeky Forums. Constantly trying to apply realism to fantasy settings, no matter how ludicrous doing so would be.

Ideally, a melee character would defeat a giant by clambering up their body, and looking for weak-points to stab or chop.

But few games bother to model that kind of thing, so usually it boils down to hacking at the giant's ankles until it suffers a heart attack.

>Shadow of the Colossus.

When will we get another masterpiece like it?

Ya'll already know what it is.

Against extremely large foes, I rule that unless they're climbing it, they're airborne, or have some other way of reaching the foe's upper body, they deal slightly less damage and can only make called shots against legs/low hanging body unless they knock the thing over. Conversely, things that are extremely tall incur appropriate range penalties for hitting them high up. Our gunslinger learned this when they walked right up to a Fey Land God and tried to shoot it in the face with a pistol with a called shot to the head and missed.

Poor gunslinger.

If I have to go, I want to at least go happy

fiction is fake

I can agree with that.

It's all about finding its weak points.

Wouldn't the gravity well of that giant slut bend the planet into such an oblique that the crust would shatter and everyone would die even before they saw her mamgams coming?

You take that back.

O look look, Big american hamburger helper post "Big girl" thread again. American, want big, like big like Texan, haha. Probably have make up for tiny american dick, haha.

Rolled 18 (1d20)

Not if I hit her with my sword first

Alright, that hits, roll damage...

Rolled 6 (1d8)

And the world is saved again, thanks to the martials

Alright, she takes 6 damage.
She is going to attack back with a greataxe

höh, good luck, i have full plate

(Wait fug where's the email feild? Whatever I'll just roll irl. 10+ her giant strength makes it 16).

Rolled 19 (1d20)

They changed it to Options a while ago.

>you need to kill a goliath in melee
Lots of spears to attempt to negate his range advantage as much as possible. Big hefty two handed axes and hammers for inflicting damage while he's distracted. A team effort.

>Fantasy giants
Magical items that make you A) big enough to fight him like you would another person, or B) durable enough he can't just smash you like you would a child or a rat, since that's about how you scale to him.

Even more of a team effort. Employ as much of a numbers advantage as you can manage. Focus on toppling him, because even if he has magic and the square cube law doesn't rape him you want to be able to get at vulnerable points that you can't reach while he's standing, like the neck.

Thus, focus on his ankles and tendons until he goes down.

>Pacific rim colossi
Magical items that make you quick and strong. You have trouble getting a mouse or a chipmunk off of you because they move fast on your body. Human body is not meant for that kind of locomotion, but if you can have insane terrifying strength to lift your bodyweight ten times over and a permanent haste spell then you can approach it.

In this case you're going for weak points like a jugular, or the big limb arteries.

If he swats you, you're dead. No mistake about it. You have to be quick enough to avoid it.

Just get another giant wrestler waifu and have her suplex the enemy

>No strength modifier

Who have the wizard a sword

Watch the god of war 3 Cronos fight. Or even Shadow of the Colossus battles

no

I like this plan

Even fantasy settings must have basic rules.
Humans can crush Ants and Giants can crush Humans.
You've equated realism to nitpicking.
You are the one with the problem, not Veeky Forums

Just have big enough numbers on your character sheet to overpower the numbers in the giant's stat block.

For something less gamey, think of big game hunting. The goliath will be vulnerable to any weapon you'd normally use against humans. It'll have a significant advantage in strength and range, so use ranged weapons if you can, but as long as you can get a hit in any weapon is fine really.

The fantasy giant is far worse. But people hunt elephants with bow and arrow, or spears if they're desperate enough. If you don't need it dead right now try adding a good amount of poison, the eskimos of north-eastern Russia have used poisoned harpoons for whaling. It may take days to kill though, so either have a plan to get lost in a hurry after application, or use a poisoned trap. Alternatively sneak into its larder and spice it up a bit. Aconite will work for both poisoned weapons and ingested, for weapons you can also try the biological route. Mince up a liver, mix with some herbivore manure, store somewhere air-proof and warm-ish for a few days. Botulinum, Tetani, Perfringens and Difficile oh my! Many viper venoms could probably be a helpful additive here, the more prone they are to causing local necrosis the better, so the Clostridium brothers get a nice meal to start with.

The titan will have to be fought with Pure Fucking Magic on a level comparable to the PFM that allows it to exist in the first place.

"NA NA NA NANA NAAA NAA NAA NA NA NANANA-"
"What the hell are they doing?"
"Singing their 'theme song', sir."
"...Do they have to do it on the public channel?"
"They said they've been practising, sir."

>Even fantasy settings must have basic rules
Sure, here's a basic rule that I can apply to my fantasy setting: size and mass do not affect strength
Therefore, saying that
>Humans can crush Ants and Giants can crush Humans
is no longer relevant in said fantasy world.

I make my giants incredibly strong.

Even if someone has an inmunity armor that avoids all damage, they die from the shock of the impact

...

It's more impressive

If he is I'm not complaining

>Why do people try to fight Giants in Melee?
Pressure Points you fucking moron.

Imagine how piss easy they are to deal with those glaring errors in biology.

Naw, she'd be pretty reflective considering her skin tone and clothes, so shed be pretty visible st night from pretty far out.

>Why do people try to fight Giants in Melee? It just seems nigh impossible.
What is Shadow of the Colossus for $500, Alex?

>9ft goliaths
Not much different from 4'6" dwarfs fighting 6' humans. Sure, they have 2 heads on you, but you're full of piss, vinegar, and a general spite towards things bigger than you.

>15-30 ft "fantasy giant"
at 15' tall, your basic melee overhead attacks are aimed at their crotch. at 30' tall, you're swinging for their hamstrings.

>Pacific Rim titans
Yeah, it'll kill me, but fuck that thing in particular. I'm climbing it's leg hair.

Quick, rate my oversized-creature combat rules:
-Massive creatures have listed "Regions" which are discrete parts of their bodies with unique properties
-Main properties are measures of how traversable they are (back of quadruped versus leg of a biped are very different places to traverse), their defensive characteristics (what damage types are effective), health, and cripple-conditions.
-When a part is reduced to zero, it is crippled, causing the cripple effect (Taking out a leg can force it to kneel, taking out chest or head usually is a kill, etc.)
-Use movement to traverse parts, attacks to deal damage to parts
-Creature can use actions to try to dislodge individuals climbing them, and some actions passively force checks to hold on (attacking with the arm the player is on, etc.)
-Ranged characters can target specific regions of the creature

A level 20 ant would crush an average level 1 commoner.

>15-30ft giant
What is that? A giant for ants?

Can't you just cut the Achilles tendon and then it's ?????? Profit

Even if they're not 100% incapacitated and can flail about on the grounf you've ruined the poor fucks life.

go for the hamstrings.

Not if it's wearing boots.

The hell is his boot made of? Chainmail?

Forgetting size for a moment, if you could get a giant to bleed, then you are basically already winning. Now you play the waiting game.

For reference, this is what a room looked like after a horse walked in with a nosebleed: imgur.com/gallery/gGjZdO8

That was a nosebleed. Now we scale it up, and it's an open, bleeding wound instead. It would not only be feasible, but also very bloody. A giant is a blood-filled pinata, and only the bravest kids with the sharpest "sticks" get any candy.

Granted, this is only viable if you could reach up to the thighs or something, since you need to get close to the centre of mass for higher blood pressure.

Giants should crush themselves under their own weight. The human body doesn't work at that scale. Even normal human real giants have short lives and issues with their hearts and limbs.

>Why do people try to fight Giants in Melee?
Because much of history that was the only real option?
>Assuming melee is on the table, what are viable option for taking one down in melee?
Shadow of the Colossus

Also I just want to say Giants with normal human proportions look fucking weird.

Why not just suplex the enemy yourself?

>tfw so little planetary vore from the PoV of someone on the planet

>Also I just want to say Giants with normal human proportions look fucking weird.
Of course they fucking do.
irl.cs.ucla.edu/papers/right-size.html

for huge monster scaling action look at Dragons Dogma too

What if the giant has allies?

>With the brand new artifact the party is now all gung-ho about beating the giantess
>But to their horror there's two

No, she's magic.

>no pads

>people always worry about ankle attacks
>never where she found all that iron and leather
>never how a giant eats and avoids starvation

If a giant is wearing boots made of leather it would be very hard to cut. Think about the thickness of a boot and scale it up to giant size. Hacking through that might take a few swings.

Giant roaming photosynthetic buffalo creatures would be my guess.

>>never how a giant eats and avoids starvation
I've seen enough giantess vore porn to know the answer to that....

Seriously though, when you have giants in a setting I typically assume there's other large megafauna/flora they can eat, if not here then in some not!fairy realm they're actually native to

What if giants were natural/magical phenomena somewhere between elementals and golems. They could just be huge stone people who eat rocks and crap out sand.

I had a dream like that picture when I was like, 11.

I didn't understand at the time, but I kept wanting to have that dream again.

Thank you for the nice picture of Smoogy.

>never how a giant eats and avoids starvation
Nuclear power, I tell you! Nuclear power!

get in close, sever a major artery that would be difficult to rend via arrows, watch it bleed worse than a human being with an equivalent wound due to physics.

That's my assumption anyways.

>Go in ear canal
>Drill through membrane till you hit skull
>Drill through skull into brain
>Rinse and repeat with other giant
Fuck your giants. I'm going to eat them from the inside out.

I mean, in D&D Hill giants literally eat anything, up to and including mud.

If we're talking 3.5, it gains size catagories every couple of levels, so yet. A level 20 ant is probably a gargantuan giant ant.

Seen the movie?

>If we're talking 3.5, it gains size catagories every couple of levels, so yet. A level 20 ant is probably a gargantuan giant ant.
Not quite, while many monsters do increase in size categories as they go up racial HD, this is only at clearly defined levels and each has a max size even if they can have effectively unlimited HD

The one exception, assuming you're using the draconomicon, are true dragons, as they effectively keep growing with HD, but top out at Colossal+ sized, pretty much just one size category up from colossal

Just hit the fucker REALLY hard.

Whats with all these dumb bimbos in rags? Put some clothes on, girls, you're embarrassing our whole culture.

Where would a giant get the tools and iron to smith an entire set of armor?

Why, in Giant's Country, of course, why would you ask such silly questions?

Now I kinda want a set of rules for humaniods to have growth patterns like dragons, like you keep putting levels in racial HD instead of class levels and you can start staking on size categories after a few

Would let you do away with giants as a type and would make a giants by their nature high level encounters

They're tourists man, they're shit no matter where they're from

go back to DeviantArt

WE'VE GONE TOO FAR
WAY TOO FAR
WE NEED TO GO BACK
SLAUGHTER ANY GIANT OVER TWO HEADS TALLER THAN THE AVERAGE MALE

Where would a human get the tools and iron to smith an entire set of armor?

They have degrees of shit
youtube.com/watch?v=96NrIz_khQM

I got to be honest, a Giant big deal bought to smith an armor of that size should have a forge and quarry visible from the other side of the world.

You'd basically have to be Hephaestus to do that.

1, because it is cool and iconic
2, because reasonably, a giant is going to have a hard time bringing full force against something the relative size of a hamster, covered in hard, spiny metal bits. A square hit will kill you, but you are going to make it bleed out first
3 because a mouse with a taser and the knowhow to use would fuck your day up, senpai

Kolossòs Rhódios, Colossus Neronis, and La Liberté éclairant le monde are just legend.
And a giant smith basically would be Hephaestus.

>The statue of liberty is supposed to be bronze, but the Murilards allowed it to become green through pollution and lazyness
>Meanwhile France has a big program to clean up the Eiffel Tower every five years
Fuckin' 'ell m8

The green is just copper oxide, it gives it character

We gave France a replica 3 years later, and they left it green too (aside from the crown, oddly enough).

Alright, give me some pictures of Giants not fighting Humans instead. Gimme all you got

what are you talking about, thos are the first things people mention

I'll see what I can do. Do you want explicit peace?
Besides the relatively small resources giants also need to worry about overheating

A 30 footer could swallow you alive.

That's a dragon.

If you're using real-life physics and biology (a big "if"), then 15ft is about as tall as you're getting a humanoid that still respects the cube-square law.

Ignoring the fact that it's fetish bait... seriously, how could a giant afford to wear anything significant? Even mininal cloth is the size of a circus tent, and armor would require insane resources.

Twins...
But can they face a dragoness?

>tuns out the monsters are just curious

Those are earth elementals. Dumb ones at that.

Giantess humanoid Dragonesses?
Count me in!

>pressure point martial arts
>working
Pick one

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