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>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their decks strategy and card choices. tappedout.net
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet. edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commanders color identity. manabasecrafter.com/
May as well move the greivance to here. Oh, and >Thread Question: Sakashima - Copycat Tribal.
Parker Taylor
Build Sidisi, go fast and nuke him
Tyler Hernandez
>copycat tribal >consecrated sphinx
mhmm
Juan Johnson
I literally built Tasigur just to fuck with him.
I'm cool with having pre-game knowledge dictating people's plays, but they need to chill out, it's a fucking game.
Chase White
Does anybody live in west LA and want to play?
Jackson Bell
Outside of the eggs what are the other artifacts needed to do that wonky breya combo?
Brandon Morales
Literally one of three cards that are not in tribe.
I lie when I say "just to fuck with him." But there are some things in there that are purely there to annoy him.
Matthew Taylor
im in fullerton area sadly, but there is a pretty active community in the local LGSs around here.
Carter James
Why do people like this? She's overcosted garbage.
Asher Jackson
Sharuum + Sculpting Steel.
Tezzeret + Chain Veil + Mana Rocks.
Isochron Scepter + Paradox Engine.
Logan Nelson
playing doubles advocate, it's possible he was saving the other 5 mana for something else and didn't want to overextend. Also there is no such thing as a bad move when it results in stopping an opponent's Consecrated Sphinx from hitting the table. Fuck that card. Spitebellows in aptly placed in my Boros deck just for that bitch.
Hudson Scott
Clock of omens + Paradox engine + anything
Nicholas Ross
edh players will play anything that they think is "unique" just to be different even if it just ends up being 4 color goodstuff
Aiden Collins
Because I like 4c artifacts you fucking faggot
I knew of these but thanks, gonna search around on my own
Ryder Gonzalez
I don't know what he could be saving up for that wasn't going to get rid of a game ending board of Vampire tokens.
I'm not salty about it being ConSphinx, I totally understand that it's cancer as fuck. I'm more annoyed that I was so far behind, it was my only play and he was like "Nup, too good." while Markov over there was fucking dicing his mate.
Adam James
How do you guys feel about wishes? I've been running burning and cunning in my competitive Narset list and they've been great.
Andrew Brooks
in case this isn't an epic bait:
well EDH has no sideboard and the format has too many tutors as it is, so if i saw someone running one i'd probably tell them that they don't do anything
Daniel Wilson
nice toolbox cards but they could just be tutors in the first place desu, if the cards in your sideboard are so useful why arent they in the deck in the first place?
Jayden Edwards
I personally don't give a shit but that doesn't mean is exactly legal. No sideboards and all that but if your meta allows it then by all means do so pretty much what is saying
Kayden Lopez
EDH is a casual format. Any playgroup that doesn't allow this glorious bastard + 200 Kozileks + battle of wits sounds truly awful.
Lincoln Brooks
Turns out I have more space in Gonti than I thought. But I want to make sure I have some solid goodstuff there too (along the lines of carddraw, ramp, removal and wraths) before I fill the rest of the deck with jank.
So, Silence the Believers? Go for the Throat? Oblivion Stone? Phyrexian Arena? I’m all ears.
Chase Morris
i'd be more inclined to let something like that pass instead of someone running burning wish to tutor up a protean hulk to win instantly
Jeremiah Richardson
you'll probably want a lot of board wipes. with gonti, you shouldn't really care about your board that much
James Powell
all is dust if its not already in. Perilous vault can be a budget option
Samuel Hall
>Burning Wish for a Protean Hulk Friend I have good news for you, that wouldn't work anyway.
Samuel King
Thinking about building Marath. I realy like his artwork and using his counters to do janky shit seems fun. Does anyone here play him ? What can I expact ?
Camden Robinson
To the anons talking about building Grenzo in the last thread, here's my Grenzo deck. It works pretty well for me.
COMBOS SO MANY COMBOS YOU WON'T KNOW WHAT DO WITH THEM BESIDES WIN THE GAME OF COURSE or you could play dino tribal and use Marath as an enrage enabler, or play naya +1/+1 counters or tokens
Luke Butler
Is Star of Extinction any good as a board clear or does nit leave anything to be desired? I know in theory it can't clear indestructible creatures or ones of a certain toughness and can fizzle if the land it targets is removed but how often does that actually end up being the case in your experience
Kayden Harris
Mizzium mortars is a better option I find, more flexible and I don't wanna blow up my board, depends on colours and local meta though
Aiden Cooper
Personally I like using it as a finisher with no creatures and Repercussion out.
Nathaniel Wright
>Ixalan cards finally dropping steadily in price Soon
Julian Ross
How could I forget about the fucking dinos. Thanks user
Easton Parker
DINO COUNTERS LET'S GO
Dylan Long
Yea Hardened Skales would be a must have for me. Doubling Season would also be nice but it's over 50$. What else could I run that has a similar effect and is not over 20$ ?
Mason Wright
primal vigor is around $15 but it's symmetrical
Aiden Cox
Eh I'm probably too far, 805
Adam Lewis
Artifact equip or draw? Which ones does well against Timmy faggots
Caleb Sullivan
I put a bunch of flavorful cards in my version.
Eliminate the Competition. Underworld Connections. Undying Evil. Gonti's Aether Heart. Increasing Ambition. Ambition's Cost. Ancient Craving. Succumb to Temptation. Drain Life. Inspiring Statuary. Exsanguinate.
Don't forget to put Cabal Coffers / Urborg in the deck, he's super reliant on those to make lots of mana.
Also, Liliana of the Dark Realms is the closest thing Black has to actual ramp.
David Jackson
She combos with any infinite mana setup.
Brody Hernandez
>Which ones does well against Timmy faggots Counterspell tribal.
Alright so I went and spent about $12 and bought a ton of morph creatures to throw into an Ezuri deck, anyone have suggestions? Currently planning on adding Champion of Lambholdt but if there's any ultra jank I missed feel free to throw some my way.
I know I am going to be taking out the two Embodiments, as I feel they pull my deck's focus away (Mostly landfall into tokens). I'm also taking out Grove Rumbler and Zendikar Incarnate as the former just doesn't do enough most of the time (7/7 trampled usually) while the latter is usually just a big dumb creature.
Any other advice or suggested replacements? Horn of Greed is the obvious choice, even if opponents get to draw off of it as well. Maybe some other card draw as well, as I seem to run out of gas when I'm not already way ahead.
Asher Scott
Storm Cauldron
Adam Torres
Why the fuck would you ever play this when Scion exists?
Camden Adams
Sundial maybe.
Ayden Robinson
More like 'you die' but close enough
Carson Thomas
holy shit why didn't I know about this version
Ethan Harris
>Why would anyone build a janky, casual deck in my 100% competitive format? Back ye heathen
Ayden Sanchez
Yeah man that version is the best. I do like the other one ties in with the animate dead version, but man the Kopinski one is so badass.
Blake Carter
Even in a casual game, Scion is just better. Build dragon tribal, Scion is best dragon. And dragon tribal isn't competitive - for that you go Scion ramp/combo/control. If you're playing dragons, there's no reason not to play Scion unless you're going for Door to Nothingness shenanigans.
This would be the only reason.
Landon Long
hour of devastation, chain reaction, mizzium mortars, and blasphemous act do its job better
Kayden Howard
What to imprint in mono blue that let's me go infini-win? I thought about Boomerang, but it doesn't actually win me a game and one of my friends in the battlegroup would keep playing until I chipped all of his life away with my measly creatures, making it a miserable experience for every one involved I also thought about Oona's Grace for a mill win but's a one mana to much to imprint.
Xavier Ward
forgot the pic
Liam Cox
Dramatic or Reversal with mana rocks that produce 3 works and you don't even need Engine
John Garcia
didn't think about that card desu I'll pick it up, but I already bought the Engine ( I went blind into it figuring there would always be some use, eve in other decks) and now I want to put up one janky infinite combo. I mean I wasplay mono-red I would just imprint shock, as silly as it sounds, and it would be gg.
Ayden Evans
It's worth having the Engine. It allows you to stumble into combos every game. You don't even need to go infinite, just have enough nonland mana producers and you can take over a game.
Levi Edwards
Mizzium Mortars is a better option in my opinion. If you're really concerned about fat board states blasphemous act is a good one as well. However start of extinction is great flavor in a dino-deck!
Alexander Hughes
Star has a bad problem where someone can destroy the land in response and ruin the whole thing.
Benjamin Perez
and star costs fucking 7, if youre mono-red then maybe its an option but with any other color there are MUCH better cards that have the same effect
Justin Gomez
Blasphemous Act is the best. Rolling Earthquake and Starstorm are also great.
Colton Campbell
All is Dust > Oblivion Stone > Blasphemous Act > Chain Reaction >>> Starstorm > Rolling Earthquake >>> Star of "Ghost Quarter is out so I can't wipe the board" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trash that deals fixed damage below 10
Ayden Bennett
I forgot about star storm!
Dominic Long
I remember seeing some user talking about their Yisan deck. I looked up a primer and HOLY SHIT this actually makes me want to play mono green. It plays so blue it looks ridiculously fun!
Anybody have any tips or experience playing Yisan?
Thomas Turner
Help me edh general. I've spent the past month trying not to blow all my cash on cardboard. Then I spend 20 bucks on nothing but mana. It hurts so good
Juan Reyes
>Then I spend 20 bucks on nothing but mana. So you bought two lands?
Adam Watson
Counterspell. Negate everything everyone tries to do until your whole table stops playing with you.
Luke Nelson
Close nykthos, caged sun, and a few sol rings
Being a poor fag sucks unsurprisingly
Adam Foster
Last night I just cast villainous wealthy where x = 30 and I fucking love that shit. What are the other good play your opponents shit on sultai?
I want to pick up hedonists trove, Gonti lord of luxury, oblivion sower, but I couldn't think of anything else that quite does what villainous wealth does.
Brayden Morris
i cant believe how cheap this card is for how many games it wins.
Nicholas Ramirez
Rare from a recent and popular set, unplayable in other formats, can only be played in 4 out of 32 color combinations in commander.
Camden Davis
But user. Gold buys death... And death earns gold.
Logan Price
But that's no fun!
Evan Cooper
You should be running the basic bitch: >Torment of Hailfire >Exsanguinate >From Under the Floorboards >Dread Summons
Too if you don't already.
Thomas Garcia
SOON.
Brody Lee
If they have a creature out to begin with, you can use Reality Shift to exile their entire library. Plus it's good on its own.
Kayden Miller
Exsanguinate and Torment of Hailfire are by far the best when it comes to actually winning, but they're also really boring.
Eli Myers
Most things in that category are
Gabriel Ortiz
Thanks that will do
Jeremiah James
>Why the fuck would anyone build X in EDH? You're in the wrong thread if you really need to ask that.
I'll never stop singing praise to Shift, it's a great sleeper and more people in Ux should play it.
Asher Reed
Does Fist of the Suns work on Chromanticore's Bestow cost?
Ian Butler
Chain Reaction blows most of the time.
Evan Campbell
12/1/2004: You can't pay more than one alternative cost for a spell. For example, you can't cast a spell using its flashback ability by paying {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}. Likewise, you can't pay {W}{U}{B}{R}{G} to cast a creature with morph face down.
Daniel Kelly
>villainous wealth
Never heard of that card
>Looks it up
HOLY SHIT THAT'S AMAZING.
Jacob Wilson
And? If there are at least 3 dudes on the board then it is still better than all of the earthquake variants, and if there aren't AT LEAST 3 guys out you shouldn't be trying to wrath anyways.
Ryder Lewis
I play Oust, Vandalblast, Akromas Vengence, Ravages of 2ar, and Time Stretch for burning and pongify, dismantling blow, evacuation, sunder, and misdirection for cunning. Also Sheldon has stated that sideboards are a by group basis. Not explicitly stated that sideboards aren't allowed.
Carter Thompson
Not true about the Earthquake variants. Starstorm trumps Chain Reaction most of the time, because instant speed, if you are killing tokens it will be cheap anyway and finally, it can deal with big stuff if it comes down to it.
Wraths in this format aren’t just about answering swarms. They also are about clearing out hexproof creatures. Sigarda, Gitrog with Greaves, etc. You frequently need wraths to answer just a couple of creatures.
Bentley Sanders
All that being said, Sheldon is a cuck so I guess that argument doesn't really work.
Grayson Clark
They are absurdly powerful if your group let's them work as printed. That being said, I don't like the idea of letting them work, even with a sideboard. Tutors don't need to be any stronger than they already are, and it also adds an extra dimension of hassle when using them, whether that's everyone now needing to assemble a sideboard (even if they don't run wishes themselves, thanks copy effects) or dealing with some guy sifting through his whole collection to find the perfect silver bullet answer to something.
Jonathan Rogers
I wish Sheldon didn’t feel the need to clarify that they don’t work without sideboards. MTG already has rules for how they work outside of tournament magic.
But then again, I don’t think “super-tutors” would be good for the format. I just want “Research” to do something. Basically, they aren’t janky enough.
Henry Ramirez
>tfw I love my EDH deck but have no playgroup and hate League games since its 99% tryhards What should I do? Its about $1000 deck but it just gathers dust since ive got no one to play with. Im really thinking about selling it but its such a nice deck and I like the flavor so much.
Cooper Anderson
>Hates tryhards >Has a $1000 deck
Unless its a foiled/expedition/masterpiece out janky deck then you have no say when it comes to tryharding.
Brody Ross
How hard have you looked for a playgroup? Are there any LGSs near you that just have casual congregations of EDH players? If not, what about other venues? A university near my house has a burgeoning EDH scene, for example, and it's mostly populated by people who are skilled without feeling too Spiky.
Ayden Brown
>money = power (you)
Easton Diaz
Post the list. That'll settle things better than any snide insinuations.
Jordan Jones
post your dick
Brody Lopez
What cards would benefit the most if Hybrid were considered "Or" instead of "And" for Color Identity?
Ethan Adams
Not the same user. I just thought that the idea that cost equals power is so stupid that it couldn't have been anything other than bait.