How do you do a society of isolationist warrior women?

How do you do a society of isolationist warrior women?

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full cheese

Depends what kind of setting I'm going for.

This

You mean the Amazons?

Have a good reason for them to be isolationist. Don't have it just be 'blah blah we hate men,' have it be something like 'mortals wanted to use us and our powerful bodies for war but we just wanted to keep them aesthetically pleasing' so they cut themselves off, or they're only meant to come out in times of danger to the world as a whole. Have something for them to do, if they're isolated then they've got to focus entirely on what they've got so their methods of doing things should be focused on enhancing tradition.

Wait a minute, that art...

Devise their method of isolation, like just living on an island and they got fuckhuge ballistae or something that fuck boats up, or a wall of fire if they're land locked.
You'll need their method of reproduction, yadda yadda magical realm, it's just logistics, it's the same as asking what do they eat.
What do they eat? Do their gods of choice provide them with magical trees that offer endless fruits, or do they have great agriculture?

My thoughts exactly.

It's amazing that I managed to remember this artist despite being barely familiar with him, the fact that the last time I fapped to his work was at least one and a half year ago, and the fact that I never actually read Sunstone.
Guess I'm sadpanda drawing connoiseur now.

The sunstone comic was actually not too bad. It got kinda drama-y and less porn near the end. So the last chapter or two were more reading than fapping, but still worth looking into.

You wait 5 years until they are all raped or enslaved

Well fuck !

I'd go full politically stupid, and have them all be radical SJW's as a satire, of course.

Why do they need to be isolationist?

Taking inspiration from the other amazon thread currently up, I'm currently stating out/writing out fluff for homebrewn amazons. The reasoning I'm going with is that amazons exist because of their (at least initial) isolation, with amazons being a human subspecies that pops up occasionally when a population is isolated in primitive conditions surrounded by environmental threats, typically large predators

In some distant island the population was growing too much and they couldn't feed everybody so all the men sailed away in the search for land and food, but they never returned.
With the population effectively halved, suddenly the hunger problem got solved instantly and the survivors (women and children) came to the conclussion that men were the problem to begin with, so from that point onwards whenever a man was born, they'd nurture him into adulthood, fuck a child or two out of him and sail him away never to be seen again.
Since the population was always under control doing this, the idea that a population of mainly women worked was reinforced and thus the tradition kept going forwards to the point where men were considered actual subhumans worth only for mating and nothing else.
They're warriors because... dunno, the island has big predators or something. I'm obviously not a good writer.

How do you make OP less of a faggot that puts in zero effort and expects other anons to do his work for him?
At least post muscle girls or something

You just fuck em one at a time

You don't, it's not realistic.

20% of the population are dominant futanari

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The guy draw for DC.

>you will never draw porn so well that a renowned comics brand will allow you draw borderline smut officially
I mean, look at that last frame of Poison Ivy. If that's not classic pin-up art, I don't know what is.

This guy hits a weird spot for me. I got interested in his art because the way he draws incredibly expressive faces. At the same time, though, he has a very severe case of samefacism, the more of his art you see, the more his characters ressemble each other, male and female alike.

war lolis

why doesn't he look into it?

He's Batman.

Write the same situation for men, and then remove all logic and accountability in the people who live there.

>Isolationist
That actually goes a long way towards justifying a society of warrior women. These "warriors" were never tested hence never got their asses kicked by the all-male warrior castes of other societies. Kind of like how IRL, all surviving matriarchies are highly isolated and still stuck in the stone age. If we compare chimpanzees to bonobos (an egalitarian/matriarchal subspecies of chimpanzees), we notice that bonobos can only be found in a certain area around the Congo river where competition and predators are near-absent and resources plentiful. Same pattern we find with human matriarchies, so this would probably also apply to your isolationist warrior woman society: isolated, little dangerous wildlife (at least in the form of predators, Australia-tier spiders are fine) and plenty to eat.

That only brings up why this society has women for warriors rather than men. I guess that could just be cultural taboo, kept in place because this societiy's warriors were never tested. Perhaps combat only happens internally and has become so ritualized over the centuries that it's basically some sort of competitive dance.

In an age where comics try to appeal to radfems no less. That really takes some talent.

So amazon halflings?

What gets me is that his faces are all so exaggerated but nothing else is. He winds up with these really cartoonish faces on mostly normal bodies and the whole thing just looks weird to me. Like look at the size of Ivy's mouth in that image, it's fucking massive.

>An Isolationist group of warriors would need to settle in, focus on defending and creating tall walls, stronger and better weapons to defend their prizes, would create codes and protect their citizens to keep their secrets safe and to encourage people to stay and breed
>The Amazonian versions usually live in huts, keep their men in shackles and constantly raid out of their jungles for more despite the fact they're supposed to be isolationists

Huh, it works.

That is the cutest Poison Ivy I have ever seen.

>What gets me is that his faces are all so exaggerated but nothing else is.
I think that's what makes him stand out, because generally speaking in modern western comics faces feel qutie unexpressive to me. His expressive faces really stand out because of that. The size of Ivy's mouth doesn't bother me though all the better to suck my dick with

raw dog

It's the sixth time that day, nigga's just tired

Seijic is a terrible line artist

It's where the ugly and rejects go to put their lives to use.

>he'll never draw a comic for GW about Necromunda Eschers

If you can a society of midget miners work I think you can get amazons to work

Id do it like this:

Amazons are not a civilization, or a culture, but rather a fantasy race all to themselves. Like Elves or halflings, while they are superficially similar to humans they are really quite different. They are all female, have an inhuman combination of muscular physique and feminine beauty, and are of a size rivaled by only the very tallest of men.

Amazons are the creations of a Goddess of War, and prize strength and honor on the battlefield accordingly. They have few arcane casters, but an active preisthood to their mother goddess that doubles as their government, lead by a seemingly immortal witch-queen who claims to be a scion demigod of the goddess herself.

The Amazons are isolationist for a number of reasons. The first is that, while they venerate battle, history shows that fights against humans are too one sided in their own favor, and as such they no longer view such wars as honorable tests of their skill.

The second, and more common, reason is simple: they find men kind of gross looking. Human women are alright enough, though obviously small and weak. They view human females roughly the same way we treat halflings, and even refer to them as 'little sisters'.

Males, human or otherwise, are just generally seen as malformed and disgusting. The queen especially finds the male form repulsive, and refuses to take audience from male messengers.

Amazons do rarely venture out into the world, and while relationships with human women are seen as merely deviant, relations with men have a taboo on par with bestiality.

Feels bad, man.

I like this. It shuts down -4 str fags and anyone else trying to argue against amazons under the excuse of realism by just flat out saying they are not human women at all.

"It's fucking fantasy, they exist along side people are wave their hands and can make fire" should be sufficient for that in my opinion, as long as it internally consistent they shouldn't have any reason to bitch

>They are all female
Being a pedantic asshole here for a moment, there is no such thing as "all-female", because in a culture with a singular gender, the notion of gender dimorphism, and thus the need for the concept of gender, doesn't exist in the first place.

and then there's this faggot

Saying that something is all-female implies that a male counterpart exists.
You can't have a shadow in abscence of light, because when the light is absent, the shadow ceases to be a shadow, even if it exhibits similar properties to the ones we prescribe to the definition of a shadow.

Just say it's a race that consists solely of fuckable amazons that reproduce via splitting, like amoebas do. Or something. I dunno.
You can always rip off asari from Mass Effect, if you want the female aspect of "DNA receptacle" to persist, I suppose.

Culturally, maybe you can argue that. The Amazons wouldnt call themselves female, certainly, because to them thats just what a person is. Indeed, the fact that this makes the males of other races 'un-persons' probably doesnt help matters. But if their entire species is equipped to give birth to children, they are by definition female.

Aphids are a real life species of bug that are all female, and we describe them as such because the lack of male aphids doesnt change what they are.

Evolutionary mutation going wild. It all starts with a single female with freakishly heightened physical traits. She is faster, stronger, and tougher than the males. She is healthy, so she attracts lots of mates. She is hardy, so she can safely give birth to many children. Maybe she even remains fertile a lot longer, so she has an unusually high number of descendants. Her advantageous mutation is inherited consistently, and all her daughters are built like their mother (sons probably get shafted and even pop out in an abnormally low ratio because of chromosome shenanigans). The girls repeat their mother's success, the number of females with the mutation grow exponentially over the generations, the wheels of evolution turn, and *bang* you have the population for the project.

However, all those big girls need a lot of nutrients, especially with that steep breeding curve. They are better at hunting/working because of their physique, but other than shafting males again by taking over their role, competition for resources will spike, resulting in an aggressive and violent group behavior. here, have the 'warrior' part. At this point, you should expect weird shit like sexual cannibalism too. Female-favoring sexual dimorphism is very rarely nice to males.

Isolationism at this point is easy. Nobody would ever consider contacting these man-eating Musclewomen From Hell who are most likely on their way to become the apex species anyway. Heck, only by inspiring proto-feminism among the unmutated females would bring a shitton of pain to your average society.

I'm just saying, there's no such thing as a female asari. There is only asari. Saying "all-female" about a race that consists of a singular gender is redundant.

>Ew these guys are gross
>Lets cut off all contact with the outside world
Bit of an extreme response there eh?

It wouldn't be the first time society went for "let's put a Wall between Us and Them" as a nuclear option.

So you are being an autist about the fact that our real world language can convey this concept in a way that is 100% accurate and understood implicitly, but has etymological roots that would not arise naturally in the fictional case being discussed, a fact rendered completely irrelevant by the fact that said fictional world wouldnt be speaking English anyway?

Dont forget that their leader, and thus the one setting policy, cant even stand the sight of men. Common Amazons probably are more forgiving the deformaties of man, but they dont write the rules.

>they find men kind of gross looking.
>Males, human or otherwise, are just generally seen as malformed and disgusting.
>The queen especially finds the male form repulsive
So the Amazons are like the women in our world? That's disappointing. Just once, I'd like to see women who venerate, glorify, and sort of worship the male form as an object of beauty, and not just if a man is really big and muscular, either. Amazonian cultures give people a chance to really experiment with different gender-related stuff, but most people just stick real-world attitudes onto them, only exaggerated.

Biologically, the sex that produces eggs is female, even if there is no male counterpart. You can't have an all male species for obvious reasons, but all female species can and do exist. Whatever they think of themselves as socially is irrelevant. Asari are maybe hermaphrodites? Then again I don't think any of them actually produce/use sperm for anything; they're just kleptons stealing skinflakes or some shit to stimulate egg development.

Oh. Uh, wow.

If thats how you think 'real world' women are, maybe that says more about you than it does about women.

>Just once, I'd like to see women who venerate, glorify, and sort of worship the male form as an object of beauty, and not just if a man is really big and muscular, either

Turn away from degeneracy and you will.

The Mass Effect codex explicitly calls the asari an "all-female" race, and they generally describe themselves in feminine terms. The concept of gender probably isn't even foreign to them, because I doubt every other species on Thessia is monogendered, so they would have seen male animals and developed the concept of male and female, even if it didn't directly apply to them.

Side note: One of the little things I really liked about Mass Effect was that the race names weren't capitalized, and the races weren't just named after the planets. I always thought that was some nice attention to detail on their part.

>So you are being an autist
Yes. I told you at the very start of this argument that I'm gonna be a pedantic asshole for the sake of this argument.
>understood implicitly
Only because we have a notion of different genders, and thus, have an outsider point of view.
If amazon society is really as isolationist as implied in previous posts, who's to say they don't have a notion of different genders, and view all dimorphic creatures as separate subspecies?

Besides, you say it's understood implicitly, but the concept of "female" isn't really as clear-cut as you think.
When you say "female" about somebody, what exactly do you imply?
That they give in-vivo birth (hell, seahorses designated as "male" do that, but let's not get off-track)?
That they exhibit behaviour that is similar to what we consider "female" by the norms of our society?
That they can be fertilized by "male" individuals of other species?
Implicit understanding requires complete understanding of the subject that is talked about without actually communicating it. I'm afraid "female" isn't an implicitly-understood concept.

>wouldnt be speaking English
Standard logic (i.e. science of valid inference) has little to do with language.

You'd be surprised at the number of supposedly heterosexual women who say things like "The male body isn't very good looking" or "Women are the beautiful sex", or who get more aroused by looking at pictures of women than pictures of men. And you'd have to be *really* sheltered to not be aware of how our culture plays the male body for laughs. Any time you see a man in media trying to do an erotic dance, for example, it's treated as a total joke 99% of the time. There's also some kind of survey I recently saw that showed most women prefer watching lesbian porn, even if they're straight. It's pretty fucked up, honestly.

>that pic
Are you seriously trying to imply that radical Muslims of all people would be open to non-traditional ideas about gender?

Untrue. Buff men are always depicted as objects of desire or envy. Depictions of male bodies played up as jokes are almost always unfit or slovenly, a bodytype undesirable on either sex. TV land just doesn't put ugly women where people can see them because such a creature has zero media value. At least ugly men can still be characters.

Dude... there are zero sandniggers on that pic...

>Buff men are always depicted as objects of desire or envy.
Exactly. Buff men, and *only* buff men. Not men who aren't out of shape but aren't really buff either. As if the normal male body were inherently ugly. And even then, you still get people saying that the female body is still more aesthetically pleasing.

Basically: Men can either be buff or ugly. They don't have the option of being slender and sensuous.

No...? What? The fuck are you talking about? Are you mentally retarded?

Seriously, are you mentally retarded?

>Buff men
That's kind of the whole point, user. That's why qualified the statement with "and not just if a man is really big and muscular, either".

>As if the normal male body were inherently ugly.
Well this goes back to the "men are agents women are objects" thing. A man who has done nothing to improve himself is undesirable from the implication of inaction, which implies a lack of agency. A woman is an object and is judged as such. Normal is fine for them because what they've achieved is irrelevant to their purpose as viable incubators.

So yes, default man is undesirable because he intrinsically has no value. His value is extrinsic and must be expressed visually somehow, i.e. buffness.

I don't.

>why is that bee holding a martini
>why did they drown the bee
Wouldn't Ivy would like bees and other pollinators.

Three is a crowd.

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This is why clothing and grooming really is what makes men appear attractive as much as raw physicality. A buff dude advertises strength, but even an unfit dude dressed to the nines can radiate success and appear attractive that way, so long as he isnt obese or ugly.

I disagree strongly with the notion that female body is more desirable than male body.

It is my belief that there are two distinct types of attractive aesthetics in human bodies: gender-specific and androgynous (gender-neutral).
The gender-specific type of aesthetics was evolved in human aesthetics from the needs of evolution and survival, while gender-neutral type of beauty is more general and generic.

If we think in these terms, we can easily identify the types of beauty present in human body:
- Female gender-specific (THICC, child-bearing hips, large breasts and ass etc. etc.)
- Female gender-neutral (slender, lithe, small, elegant, moderate- to small-sized secondary sexual organs)
- Male gender-specific (buff, bear-mode, bara etc.)
- Male gender-neutral (traps)

>cont.
If we think in these terms, it's not at all strange that some or even most females enjoy lesbian porn or "prefer" female body to male ones.
The gender-neutral aesthetics appreciation is simply more pronounced among female gender.

Also, note how male gender-neutral doesn't necessarily mean excessively feminine traits (crossdressing and such), but also can mean traits exhibited in bishounen and the overall "pretty boy" stereotype, that is known to be beloved by female gender.

The female body is inherently more desirable because it makes babies. That's it. Males are not because one can do the job of many, forcing the selection process to be more choosy where they are concerned and thus they must conform to a higher standard of desirability.

We're just peacocks man.

I'm just saying, how much lesbian porn have you seen that stars busty babes with thick asses?

...A lot? I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Just as much as you've seen porn that stars buff men fucking each other, I'd reckon.
I'm just saying that, culturally, society nowadays favors gender-neutral aesthetics in female gender far more than in male gender.
Basically, for males, both ideal male and ideal female bodies favor gender-specific traits.
Which is why this stereotype among males persists that male eroticism is possible solely if the man in question is buff. And that simply isn't true, because females are just as deviant as males are.

A cursory glance around the right parts of the internet will tell you that no, there are people out there who find just about any type of body hot. Long and gangly, plump and round, anything really.
You're right that buff is typically more popular, but the question as to why - whether its some thing taught by society and modern culture, some evolutionary hold over, or because men and woman were designed to fill different roles by a higher power and so certain body types are fundamentally more 'right' - falls far outside of the purview of this board.

I feel like the host of big tittied/assed pornstars disproves that claim, but I don't care enough to dig up statistics. All I can say is I don't care much for twigs.

I say there was a turf war with an all male isolationist tribe. The females won with superior numbers and tech, but then what? The male tribe had no real land or resources, so the war was a huge loss in the long run.

They took it as a sign from their deity, spread some rumors of their lands being cursed, and took to agriculture, academics, and training an army for self defense.

They can leave anytime, and they let wandering women enter if they prove themselves, but most of them are content in their home.

Surrounding areas know the rumors are bogus, but they think it’s just a pack of mud women killing anything that they perceive as a threat.
Not everything has to be a tract.

The other amazon thread got me thinking the other day and I tried my hand at fluffing up/stating my own version of amazons
Not gonna repost the wall of text here, but if you want here's a pastebin
pastebin.com/sBFYYkG7
and posts in other thread about it start Would love comments/suggestions/random anons telling me it's shit/ect

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You mean the Amazons, mythical beings that were made from clay and were semi-immortal?

>rick and morty
Ew

>That pic
>Involving muslims

pizza?

that's hot

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i like to think your post was directed at

Yes

I think you have a handful of questions to answer before you can get to that one. First, why are they isolationists? Any reason works, so long as it's a reason that has reason. Second, what kind of culture do they have beyond just fighting? You're going to run out of people real quick if your society has only women and only fights. Third, what kind of history do they have, and what lessons have they learned (if any) from their history?

Following this set of questions, you could come up with something like this: A culture of women, separated from the world by the fact that they live on a large floating rock. Originally from Nordic lands, they still carry much of those traditions; Like fighting, drinking, and setting around fires telling stories. Still, they spit on the stories of the one that cursed them: Loki. He came in disguised as a warrior from a neighboring village and told the women of the village that he would take all their problems away from them. He tricked them in their weakness, and now they float in the clouds: Not aging nor making families. Only waiting for their chance to kill the god that took everything away from them.

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the /co/ joke was that sunstone was come for the porn, stay for the comic, while his other comic/deviantart account was come for the comic, stay for the porn

Thirsty WW is goat

They're British Special Forces on the Africa front during WW2. The fact that unshaven Brits could be mistaken for Arabs also implies that civilized Arabs could be mistaken for West Europeans. That makes me all the sadder about how Pisslam has forever ruined the craddle of civilization.

Why does Batman look like a fucking chump when he's supposed to be peak humanity (if not beyond that, as evidenced by breathing in space and punching Darkseid)?

Wondy brings out his inner shota