Any recommendations for a straight up high fantasy setting from the Japanese? I'll mention what I know:
>Berserk
>Dungeon Meshi
>Goblin Slayer
>Record of the Lodoss War
High Fantasy Anime and Manga
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Even if we talk about fantasy, Veeky Forums is a tabletop board amigo
But I'll say this
>Magi The Labyrinth of Magic
>user, it seems you've never been to /a/. They'll eat you alive if you ask for recommendations or help
he'll only get moe shit going to /a/
Well, the one time I used /a/ it was the Little Witch Academia general, asking if the dub was decent(I prefer my shit subbed from the original language, but I wasn't so sure I could take a mostly female japanese voiced series full on) and frankly, I was received
Berserk isn't high fantasy.
>time for another thread wasted on arguing what is low/high fantasy
Man I love these
Care to elaborate?
>Medieval European Aesthetic
>Magic
>A world different from earth
It look high fantasy
Lets see.
If you want traditional fantasy settings, you probably need to go for older stuff like Lodoss War. Everything in the past decade is fucking isekai or video game logic.
Danmachi is stupid but fun. Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash is honestly a good primer on how to handle low level parties.
The Heroic Tale of Arslan isnt high fantasy, but it checks a lot if the same boxes so you should try it anyway.
Likewise, Escaflowne is not quite high fantasy because robots but still really good.
>past decade is fucking isekai or video game logic
Any particular reason for this?
Its what otaku want, so its what otaku get. Isekai fantasies make for good self insert fodder, and SAO made 'trapped in a fantasy videogame' overtake the actual fantasy genre. Also, if your isekai fantasy realm folliws video game logic, you dont have to actually have your protagonist work to be good at anything. Hou can just make them a rare and special 'class' or give them a bullshit 'skill' or have them literally get better by leveling up. Nothing that rewuires actually training or anything, just a magic button they can slap to make JRPG hero shit happen.
Log Horizon was a rare exception to this. Classes were fixed, game elements were used in a novel way.
>Everything in the past decade is fucking isekai or video game logic.
Magi isn't, at least the manga isn't. The anime is made by A1 so I'm not so sure about it
Yelp, add the stupid "Lol the protagonist falls on the girls boobs just like those old animes but this time I'm aware of this old joke so I'm making it more over the top so it's ok to reuse it xD" and other subversion tropes and you summed everything I hate about modern anime. I miss FMA, at least I still have One Piece
Slayers
Orphen
Rune Soldier Louie
(Orphen and Rune Soldier take place in the same world as Lodoss)
Dungeon Meshi should be up your alley.
Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down!
Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it.
And where enemy rises to face me, victory WILL BE MINE!
It's in the fucking OP, user
Here this should help.
It older now, but should still check out.
Also, notation.
Louie the Rune Soldier
Record of Lodoss War
Record of Lodoss War TV Chronicles of the Heroic Knight
Legend of Crystania
and Orphen take place in the Sword World RPG Campaign Setting, Forcelia
Maybe try Bastard!! Even though it's more heavy metal fantasy.
>Fairy Tail anywhere but shit tier
I shiggy diggy doo
This may sound stupid, but I think Chaika works as a high-fantasy setting. It's fairly anachronistic with its weapon designs, but it has some nice world-building and interesting ideas.
Also Chaika
If that's all that's needed for high fantasy, then Witcher and Warhammer is High Fantasy, something fans and haters of both franchises will vehemently disagree with.
High fantasy is more setting where magic is thrown around all over the place like it's a normal occurrence, while low fantasy treats magic like an invader, fucking things up, and generally tried to be kept to a minimum.
So LotR isn't High Fantasy?
LotR takes place on Earth allegedly so it's low fantasy.
Not that user, but my take on it. To be honest, LoTR would be high fantasy - while fluff-wise magic is pretty rare and special, all works based on the frenchise are full of it. Sure, events and characters portrayed in them are meant to be special themselves but still, quite some magical artifacts, wizards and whatnot thorough plots of most of the franchise. The same way I see D&D which is high fantasy, even though someone could argue that actually some peasants living in middle of nowhere have mundane lives of farmers and shepards.
Magic has to be quite commonspread for it to be fantasy. Compare D&D where magic is part of daily life of many citizens in some form and takes place of quite some of the technology, with enchanted items and spells themselves being used in astounding number of industries and crafts - while in, say, Witcher where magic also exists and there are even academies devoted to it - outside of circles of practitioners and other influential people, it's unseen and many average citizens can go for long time without stumbling upon any. It's also usually much more utilitarian, less showy, less all-permeating.
maybe Orion, for the sci-fantasy setting
>Witcher
>Warhammer
>Not high fantasy
That's fucking retarded. Even if we're not going by the definition where high/low fantasy is decided entirely by whether its set in a fictional world or the real one, there's still a myriad of fantastical elements beyond casting spells.
So that's where all the beakies went...
Yeah, and it's all considered invasive elements in an otherwise mundane world. Magic and fantastical things stirring shit up and causing a panic in a setting makes it low fantasy.
>it's all considered invasive elements in an otherwise mundane world
Well that's just fucking wrong, isn't it? The Warhammer Fantasy world is one in which dozens of different races have been sharing the same planet for fucking forever. The Empire doesn't exist in complete isolation from the fantastical shit, it's right on its fucking doorstep and always has been. The eponymous Witchers actually use magic potions and spells to hunt monsters that are a common problem. Fantastical things stirr shit up and cause a panic in these settings because they come in the form of big monsters who want to kill you, not because they're realistic settings in which magic wasn't real until recently. Your definition works for something like Berserk, but certainly not the two examples you chose.
Not really? Magic is seen as just another part of life, even if it is rare. The qualifying point for low fantasy seems to be how ordinary Joe would greet magic
>High fantasy
"Oh your a wizard. Neat."
>Low Fantasy
"WITCH! BURN IT! BURN IT!" or "WITCH! USE YOUR EVIL MAGIC AND KILL THE EVIL THING USING EVIL-ER MAGIC
And how do people normally react to it? With fear, suspicion, or hostility. In Witcher, you have battles and whole chunks of the story that never use magic, and anything fantastical kept at a distance unless absolutely needed.
In Warhammer, it would have been High Fantasy had Chaos not royally fucked everything up. As such Elves only practice light magic, and heavily restrict what can be done with it, Dwarfs flat out refuse to touch it in favor of runes, and humans flip flop between grudgingly allowing magic users to burning them at the stake. Magic is commonplace, but it isn't accepted as a part of everyday life.
Low Fantasy.
>High/low fantasy is decided by people's reaction to magic, not the prevalence of magic or the nature of magic or the nature of the world of the existence of elves and fairies
That's fucking retarded and you are the only person in the world who thinks this.
>Thread turns into another "how do you define genres" argument
>That's fucking retarded and you are the only person in the world who thinks this.
>> In the study of fantasy literature, it has been defined as fiction where magical events intrude on an otherwise normal world. It thus contrasts with high fantasy stories, which take place in a fictional world with its own set of rules and physical laws.
But the Witcher and Warhammer Fantasy worlds aren't otherwise normal, you mouth breather. Just because people are scared of the fantastical stuff doesn't mean the world is normal. I'd be pretty scared if someone pulled a gun on me in real life but we don't live in a "low gun" world.
>I'm sick of firearms supremacy! We are playing low gun settings from here on only!
I feel like people are mixing up "High Fantasy" and "High Magic"
I really liked Danmachi for just making a really cliche video-game-like setting work, but the last few (English translated at least) novels were kind of a slog
I really liked Danmachi for actually playing elves, dwarves and halflings completely straight and making them somewhat badass.
Especially this guy.
nausicaa of the valley of the wind, both manga and movie.
It may not quite be fantasy because it uses technolog, but it's one of those cases where advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, and it could seamlessly be changed to magic.
Howl's castle from myazaki as well.
Another user on Veeky Forums suggested stravaganza some tiem back, but it's not been updated for over a year.
Dragon ball until the second tournament has many high fantasy elements, intermixed with modern elements. It's certainly somethign worth hecking out, if you've never read it.
The problem is the 7th volume was basically a bunch of nothing happening, the 8th was just Bell running around in whore town, and the 9th. Sword Oratoria was also kind of meh to me (particularly the anime that took out the violence and focused too much on the lesbian elf for some reason). Still I'll probably end up reading the main story until they stop making them
Meant to say and the 9th is basically part one of a two part story
>hating on Lefiya
>Sword Oratoria
>It was advertised as "Remember Aiz? Did you ever wish that she was the protagonist of Danmachi? Well, your prayers have been answered!"
>Instead we get dyke elf
We have Aiz, we have two delicious brown amazons, but instead we focus on the fucking dyke elf. The dyke elf who's redundant considering there's already an elf spellcaster in the familia.
She was a waste of screen time. Instead of learning basic shit about Aiz you get her trying to be Bell.
She was pretty similar to Bell in her motivation, but it's not like that Aiz is so much of an interesting character. Do you really think she could carry the series alone?
Not him, but
>alone
no
>as a foil/straight (wo)man to the actually interesting members of her familia (read: not Lefiya)
absolutely
I'm not saying she needs to carry the series alone, I'm saying the focus was off. Just giving basic details like why she actually is going into the dungeon and how she actually views Bell would be just a little less lesbian elf kohai stares at her sempai time, and would stick closer to the material anyway. Of all the characters to spend time on she was a shitty choice instead of any the senior Loki members
I can't see any of the other characters being more interesting. Aside from Finn, but he's in the leader position, which is unsuitable for a MC.
More time for the other characters would have been great, but that's 12 episodes for you. Lefiya already had more focus in the manga as well.
Goblin Slayer is shit. I read the first half of the the novel as I was so dissapointed.
I'll use this post to vent a bit.
1. Really? Monsters are a constant problem, but they're are barely any villages or nobles or churches prepared to deal with them?
2. Why doesn't the main character teach anyone other than kawaii healer girl how to deal with goblins?
3. How does every high-level adventurer have so little loyalty to their hometown that they would abandon it to fight peacefulish dragons or whatever in the wilderness? I would much rather live a life in my home village and protect from murderous rapist goblins than go to the edge of the earth to fight things that are more deadly but less important.
4. It seems pretty convenient that there's a 60/40 female male adventurer gender split, and that all of them are either teenagers or young adults. Somehow there isn't a single old witch or wizard, there isn't any female adventurer who is ugly, and none of them wear serious armor.
5. Fuck adventuers guilds in general.
If I wanted a rape doujin, I'd read a rape doujin, not this shitty excuse for a fantasy story.
Dungeon Meshi is fun tho
This is just a dead horse. Goblin Slayer is shit, but there's really nothing new to say in regards to it.
>1. Really? Monsters are a constant problem, but they're are barely any villages or nobles or churches prepared to deal with them?
Demon army to the north
>2. Why doesn't the main character teach anyone other than kawaii healer girl how to deal with goblins?
Autism
>3. How does every high-level adventurer have so little loyalty to their hometown that they would abandon it to fight peacefulish dragons or whatever in the wilderness?
You overestimate humanity's moral nature, especially when there's big bux at stake.
>4. It seems pretty convenient that there's a 60/40 female male adventurer gender split
Would you rather have a more 'realistic' setting where women stay at home and obey their husbands without question? No wait, that'd irritate your vagina.
>and that all of them are either teenagers or young adults
Who else do you think fights entry tier monsters? The elderly?
>5. Fuck adventuers guilds in general.
I greatly value your opinion.
>If I wanted a rape doujin, I'd read a rape doujin
Then go read a rape doujin.
Goblin Slayer is shit, but so are your points. Unlike your points, Goblin Slayer redeems itself by being somewhat entertaining.
Please no.
Witcher and it's focus on witches, whom are literally d&d wizard powerful.
>Low fantasy
Yeah nah. Now if we're talking about the games with their magical creatures literally fucking everywhere, shape changing dragons and the implication that your daughter briefly visited star trek planet.
Double yeah nah.