hi Veeky Forums im new to warhammer (coming from creative assembly's fantastic game) and I've been reading the wiki a bit, but I was wondering what happens to the bretonnians who are kidnapped? like the magic sensitive ones who get taken?
Zachary Miller
The girls get sent back as Damsels, after being taught Magic. The Boys become magical knights, ala Lancelot, and they serve as the personal Guards of the Lady.
Thomas Murphy
Please no shitposting. In case of genuine question: We have little informations on this, some might get sacrificed. We know that Wood Elves can do that. That's it.
Connor Brown
We have this discussion a lot, there are a few options:
The one I prefer is a bit of lore where they are said to be taken by the Lady and turned into quasi-Grail Knights called the Lost Sons of Bretonnia. It's the only clear bit of lore on the subject, but it's also considered flimsy by some anons since it was published in a magazine article or something.
They could be sacrificed as part of some magic ritual for Orion.
Some bit of lore out there hints that they're used as servants. And there are /ss/ memes. You should not take those seriously.
Or you could make a nice bit of headcanon.
Jack Hill
Is anyone else seeing the Border Princes running an absolute train on the badlands in mortal empires? Valmir has handed Wurzag his ass repeatedly and looks like He’s not stopping there
Jaxon Robinson
>but it's also considered flimsy by some anons since it was published in a magazine article or something It was a black library short story written by someone, forgot the name unfortunately, that aside from that only wrote 40k stuff. One should feel free to dismiss it for his own headcanon.
Wyatt Roberts
How bad is Araby militarily speaking?
Brayden Wright
In my game, they've invaded Averland and then began fighting Clan Skyre after splitting estalia and tilea between them and the Skaven. Then they ran into the Old Worlds No.1 Power Couple, and their french friend. So they don't exist now.
David Mitchell
they crash galleons into port cities
Michael Brown
just about as bad as anyone compared to the mary sues of chaos
Josiah Wilson
What BL info is canon and which are not?
Isaiah Reyes
The things you like are your canon.
Nathan Young
And that's fair - but I haven't really gotten a headcanon that surpasses the idea of fey Lancelots riding creepy kelpies.
Carson Morales
I haven't actually seen them. The map is big as is. Right now I am playing a clothique campaign establishing high elven trade outposts in the old world.
Brandon Thompson
old BL is not canon, the more recent BL is canon
effectively the authors are allowed to write whatever they want and overwrite old canon as they see fit
Veeky Forums prefers to ignore whatever they don't like and then write fanfiction which they claim is canon
Leo Stewart
Are there any Norscan necromancers? Like ex-shaman outcasts that defile their ancestral barrows and tombs? What relation would one have with Chaos? Complete opposition, 'cause death magic or something? Refresh my memory if you can be bothered on whether necromancer is all based on Khemri vampires and shit. If so that'd be hard to jam a Norscan who learnt necromancy in the bounds of his own homeland. I'm thinking about a converted VC army that exchanges Grave Guard models with modified undead Chaos Warrior models, normal skeletons with added Marauder decals and bits, etc. Also mechanically, what would be recommended for that fluff list (if lore-feasible)? No vampires obviously, 1000 points is my thinking.
Adrian Hall
Like Ogre kingdoms out of fucking nowhere?
Connor Ross
>Grave Guard models with modified undead Chaos Warrior models Oh that's really a good idea! Added bonus that all you'd need would be a warriors of Chaos box and skulls for head. I'd imagine that pic related on a warrior body would look ace. Oh and the unit could work as Warriors of Nurgle aswell.
normal skeletons with added Marauder decals and bits, etc. Now that would be fucking neat! If you use shields from both skeletons and marauders you'll get a nice mix of debilitated and more pristine ones, size wise their quite similar. I'd definitely greenstuff some furs on them if I were you!
With a bit of greenstuff or a head.swap you could turn a terrorgheist into a undead manticore.
Blood Knights could obviously be made as undead Knights of Khorne, just give them a headswap and perhaps a skeletal arm or two.
Dire Wolves doesn't even need fixing to look perfect as zombie warhounds.
Camden Butler
And this soon to arrive-fella' would make one hell of a Wight King BSB. Allthough then again Krell is literally an undead Khornate Champion and perhaps the best looking model that GW have ever produced.
Andrew Martinez
Crypt Horrors could just be an assortion of large beasts such as trolls and spawns.
Chase Ramirez
Can someone give me high elven names for Mousillon and Lyonesse?
Logan Sanders
Do the High Elves have elven names for human cities in general?
Evan Taylor
Pro: >unambiguously positive fate, way better than what they'd have had without having been taken >a speck of noblebright in the Old World >Bretonnia gets some lore that's not being the Wood Elves' bitch >Pre-8th ed Wood Elf Bitch canon, and thus better >Phil Kelly
Con: >Has nothing whatsoever to do with the magical abilities that got them taken in the first place >Slightly conflicts with the 2nd ed WFR Bretonnia book that says that sometimes the children get given back as the Lady's servants were mistaken
That's more than good enough for me; thank you, knows-pleasant-lore user
Hunter Phillips
According to the creator of Warhammer, canon is what your local community uses because everyone should have their own army and you should run campaigns.
According to GW when WFB was squatted, who the fuck cares, buy more models.
According to GW now, its just whatever sells.
Jason Gomez
I disagree, Josef Bugman and Gotrek holding up Grombrindal is the best.
Joshua Kelly
Bret cities were built on Elven ruins, whereas Empire ones weren't.
Hudson Diaz
welves kidnapping and raping shotas
Luke Cruz
Not all of them, but I am fairly certain that L'Anguille at least was once known by a High Elf name. But that was when it was a High Elf city, you know? It'd be like claiming London was still its Roman colony by the 1600s.
William Allen
Marienburg was elven city where Hellebron was born.
Isaiah Thomas
Anyone else here playing Return of Reckoning? I did briefly, but I didn't have a group so I couldn't stomach past a certain level.
Ryan Sullivan
This is the Skaven Scribe.
Say something nice about him.
Austin Cooper
If he was put onto a battlefield, he would probably kill many High Elves.
Adam Cooper
He would make an excellent trophy
Dominic Walker
Also Shadow of War is basically Skaven Clan Simulator 2017
Michael Evans
CUTE
Hunter Parker
So there's Skaven that sing before fights? The only thing stopping Nagash from leading Skaven is that he didn't try?
Angel Jenkins
WoC graveguard's a good idea, although the different base sizes might cause problems. In all honesty at 1000pts you don't want graveguard desu, they're just not cost efficient.
Try big blocks of inexpensive infantry with one or two hammer units. Don't go overboard with characters.
Knights of Chaos as Black Knights works well though, for obvious reasons.
1000pts of VC are really difficult, you get countered v. easily by Empire. I don't envy you in this! Look into Undead Legions list from Endtimes for new goodies. Happy Halloween
Andrew Davis
look at the base size, there's no way it's fitting on a 20x20. It's like GW trolls its fanbase with making a few cool AoS models and then makes the design unwieldy for 8th edition.
Aaron Gomez
He's the cutest Skaven I have ever seen. 9/10 would pat.
Carter Carter
How do chaos warriors and chosen get armor when they live in a wasteland?
Parker Taylor
Norscans and Kurgans have armour smiths, but there are also the Chaos Dwarfs who work metal in exchange for slaves and the Chaos Gods themselves.
William Foster
You have to go back shill
William Ortiz
Posting pics from armies on parade this year
Camden Perez
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Evan Jenkins
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Daniel Jenkins
Wait, is that a Space Wolf in the back?
Bentley Bailey
Actual scale to the miniatures, too.
Connor Thompson
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Dominic Ross
In the spirit of Halloween I was wondering something. Are there any stories in WHFB (or 40K if you can think of any) that are genuinely creepy or contain an element of horror? I've read some Black Library books with some messed up shit in them but nothing that was out of the ordinary for either setting. Every example of horror in Warhammer has been stuff that's pretty commonplace, like a named character's background, the very nature of the Warp, etc. Is there anything you've read in an army book, novel or anywhere else that was legitimately unsettling to you?
Kevin Barnes
The only other one was an AoS skaven board
Samuel White
Norscan native armor is mostly furs, leathers, and mail, and it seems to be an honorable profession among them.
I imagine most Kurgan armorsmiths are enslaved Cathayans. I don't think it's elaborated on, but we know the Kurgan make extremely heavy use of slaves.
Josiah Scott
Or you can stick him on a piece of cork cut to overhang the base a bit at the top like 40k players do. Or better yet put one foot on the base and one on a rock in a pose like the Strigoi has.
Colton Perez
Not really. Almost all Chaos stuff is actually more emo than horror. Vampire stuff fleshes out the characters, but is exclusively pulp.
I think the closest you'll get is books about Goblins. They get unsettling at times.
Benjamin Robinson
Still no news of WFRP 4E?
Anthony Hall
report back and tell us how it looks
Michael Robinson
People do that shit all the time.
Nathan Ross
If the Skaven made it into orbit, does that imply there's a Skaven Mission Control?
Oliver Cruz
For real, was looking the other day and I couldn't find shit besides maybe q4 2017 I'm really hoping for some stuff that supports treasure hunting and other fun stuff in Lustria cause I'm too lazy/inept to homebrew all that shit in 2e I guess it'd be simple enough just ripping the stats from other monsters and shit on a basic level, but I'd like to see it done well
Robert Clark
Wood Elf Bitch canon?
Ian Adams
Some of the Genevieve stuff is pretty decent at being ...Not exactly horrifying but maybe sorta spooky?
Gabriel Hall
Fuck all. Cubicle 7 only has 'muh lotr' tweets.
Joseph Campbell
Bretonnia is now the WElve's bitch. Their whole nation has been dancing on elven strings since the time of Gilles.
Much butthurt flows from the 3 people who play them.
Hunter Long
Bretonnia exists as a way for English developers to poop all over the French for being pompous, backwards assholes.
Connor Martinez
I like their take on the Skaven. Less like an apocalyptic horde and more like a bunch of insane, brain-damaged gremlins. They're almost likeable.
Cooper Baker
I'm surprised they even allowed them into the shop on square bases.
If anyone is interested Warlord Games sell an updated 'citadel castle' but it's expensive as fuck for a complete set.
Blake Kelly
I used some FW Skin Wolves as my crypt horrors. I fucking hated the crypt horror and ghouls models, they look like utter shit.
David Smith
No Bretonnia exists because you can't have a Fantasy setting without knights in the 80's.
Ethan Jones
Bretonnia really existed because back in the day GW made a line of historical minis for a Hundred Years War style wargame, and then that fell through and they threw the sculpts into Warhammer Fantasy. The fact that they've managed to grow beyond their purely historical roots at all is a minor miracle.
Aiden Mitchell
Only thing in warhammer that has ever truly unsettled me was this one description of Skaven breaking into a Lizardmentemple and finding a Slann mage priest in deep meditation, and while the slann is slowly waking up, only half-conscience they begin to eat him. Just tearing into his stomach. I think it was the end times, a pretty disturbing thought being eaten while you are waking up.
Jack Reed
Also Phil Kelly.
Nolan Gonzalez
I miss this game so much
Blake Ward
There are also Norscan dwarves.
Xavier Ward
Missed thread, buddy?
Brayden Russell
I found the Ogre Kingdoms old army book story about a Bretonnian knight who went to go kill ogres for ze lady, but gets torn apart pretty spoopy. Maybe it's because of the art - the 'ogre' portrayed looks like a gorger.
John Lewis
>krell >good Krell's model is shit. That axe too big for his tiny hands kill it completely
Jaxson Ross
Not all of them. Only the coastal city are. I think i remember that either l'anguille or bordelaux are Tor Alessi, the city where Gotrek Starbreaker stomped caledor II. According to WFRP KoTG Parravon is actually built over a lost dwarf hold
Landon Gray
There are lots of Elven ruins in the West Empire as well.
John Hughes
So TMS has released a starter set for T9A if anyone is interested.
Tomb Kings vs. Bretonnia + rules.
Nathan Bell
Ah it's already sold out. Well done TMS, the usual incompetence.
James Gray
They steal it. Since plate armor is so rare, it's safe to assume they reforge and reuse armor taken from the enemy during raids, and when a chaos warrior dies they probably strip him naked and reuse his armor. Chosen are another thing, since their armors are a gift fromnthe gods and they cannot remove it, but i figure that once they die they too are stripped and the armor reused as a normal plate armor. I figure Norscans don't particularly care if their armor has the skin of another dude inside it, but i think they can always scrape it off
Samuel Hughes
But norse dwarves would not forge armor for chaos worshippers
Andrew Kelly
I've looked everywhere short of my Grudgelore book, is there a dorf word for Amethyst?
Tryna do a thing about dorfs and it's been 10 years since I actually understood how khazalid works any autists in here who can help me?
Lucas Adams
Mix the words for "purple" bright" "stone" and there you have it. Dwarfs come up with new words all the time
Jackson Thompson
the Chaos description of how beastmen came to be, animals and men mating and creating half spawn, beastmen raping human women, is quite unsettling. also stuff in a similar vein in how omens manifest - like pigs rearing on their hind legs and squealing in human voices, that is always spooky.
Justin Russell
What's the coolest thing you've done in Fantasy (Roleplay or otherwise)?
Jace Garcia
Killed three chaos warriors in single combat with a PC in his first career
Alternatively, manage to have a grudge with a goat
Jonathan Brooks
The kurgans also trade quite extensively with the Chaos Dwarfs and I'd reckon that the primary goods that the Kurgans trade for is Chaos Armour.
Christian Lewis
That's a neat idea. The skin wolves would work great in a count-as VC norscan army.
John Baker
You shut your whore mouth!
Jonathan Moore
Killed a daemon with a hammer while screaming about Sigmar, but I'm pretty sure everyone has done that at some point.
Evan Bailey
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David Rogers
tried that, couldn't find one for purple. This is doing my head in.
Colton Powell
Dark blue? Misterious hue? Underground water? Dark glow? Cave star?
Michael Rodriguez
the word amethyst derives from koine greek which means not drunk as they believed the stone could protect them from intoxication.
Jonathan Baker
If grombrindal is said to appear where dwarves most need him and bring his kind to victory against impossible odds, why hadn't he shown up to behead skarsnik and queek yet?
Jace Foster
There's one old short story about how Daemons of Nurgle haunt and cull towns of the Empire. IIRC it begins with nurglings acting as surly 'gårdstomtar' by souring the milk and making the cattle sick and other similar shenanigans. After a couple of days/weeks Plaguebearers manifests, sometimes lead by a Great Unclean One, and starts dancing around the outskirts of the town in a 'human' chain, singing about the horrors to come. At the stroke of witching hour, the daemons attack the town and leave none alive.
James Williams
I mean, Leonceur is literally King Richard, as in the Lionheart. Coer de Leon. Much beloved English king
An english king who was ironically FRENCH and spent maybe 6 months in England tops after he gret into adulthood hon hon hon