Are Paladins a played out concept?

I'm personally enjoying the green knight subtype in 5e. Playing it with a much more animist/shamanist bent, sort of a druidic sohei or something.

You remind me of an internet friend I once had; What are your thoughts on traps, guns, /r9k/, Umaru, and the adeptus mechanicus?

>starts thread with a shitty half-baked one-line question as an excuse to post his shitty quality r/the_donald macro
>wonders why he's being called a redditor

>subjective morality is being rightfully hung out with the trash.
thank god. the postmodern scourge is being slain by the champions of the enlightenment and their unlikely christian allies. is there a enlightenment palladin in 5e? knowledge, freedom, reason, science. a fedora knight i guess

Pro, pro, anti, anti, pro.

>the majority of legal citizens are redditors

at least you're self aware about it

Eldritch Knight worshipping...shit, I don't actually remember if the goddess of science and civilization from 4e is actually in 5e, but that is an unironically great idea, especially if you go all Kipling about the "human burden" of spreading civilization to orcs and elves at the tip of a spear.

>Traps
Gay, but what's wrong with that?

>Guns
Background checks aren't a bad idea but guns ARE constitutionally protected in the US.

>/r9k/
Cancerous cesspit.

>Umaru
I don't think the premise can carry a series but she's my spirit animal.

>adeptus mechanicus
Praise the Omnissiah.

It's hard to be fedora in D&D because there's objective proof the gods exist. You'd need to be a tinfoil-helmet conspiracy theorist to not at least acknowledge them as powerful repositories of magic that grant boons to likeminded individuals.

Yeah, you're not him. You are still a faggot, tho.

No, but you're probably playing them wrong.
They're the sheriff from cheap Westerns.

>macro

Spotted the newfag

Pro, pro, anti, pro, anti.

>I don't actually remember if the goddess of science and civilization from 4e is actually in 5e
'course it is. 5e is agnostic about pantheons and settings, just like 4e was. Also, you don't have to worship a god to be a paladin in 5e either.
>especially if you go all Kipling about the "human burden" of spreading civilization to orcs and elves at the tip of a spear.
Actually pretty sure there's an oath out for paladins now called the oath of conquest, for 5e, it basically sounds something like this. It's in Unearthed Arcana and it might be in the new Guide coming out.

Shit, sorry, I forgot kids called them 'memes' on their own these days, I don't spend so much time on facebook

>traps are gay

Yeah, no. Morality is completely subjective and a lot more complicated than "this is always right, and this is always wrong".

Fuck off with this SJW bullshit.

>the majority of legal citizens
Are you implying the current US President's approval rating isn't in the shitter?

No, he's implying that the Illuminati secretly financed the casting of more than 3 million votes from illegals and lost anyway and covered up all the evidence with their Jewish magics. Haven't you heard?

Background checks exist, though, even at gun shows. Now that this is commonly known, the new anti-freedom shill line is that psychiatric evaluations should be required, which would create a system ripe for abuse.

>kid
>facebook
>REEEing about Trump

You definitely need to lurk a few more months before you're ready to post here. Maybe /pol/ is more your speed?

Yes, but that's besides the point. You're a fag because you're OP.
Unless I've mistaken your identity.

You could be him. Have you seen this video before?
webmshare.com/ZjyQG

>traps
Not really my thing, but I don't hate them.

>guns
Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered
- Karl Marx

>/r9k/
lol

>Umaru
I'm weeb as fuck, but can't stand it.

>adeptus mechanicus
Don't know shit about 40k desu

>if you are not a christian alt-faggot then you are objectively wrong!!!
Imao

Thank God

>champions of the enlightenment
The enlightenment was a massive mistake and was the genesis of the scourge of modernity. Fuck off.

>objective morality
>SJW bullshit
>the same people that say that some fermented shit huffing tribe is no better or worse than western civilization

>subjective morality
>"complicated"
"sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong" is not complicated, it's just pusillanimous compromise.
There is right. There is wrong. There is good. There is evil. Now, -what- that right and good, and what that wrong and evil is can be debated and discovered, but it does exist, if not already found.

>morality is completely subjective and a lot more complicated

You know the only reason this is taught in schools is to foster acceptance of cultures that cut off little girls' genitals or eat their own dead, right? Morality isn't subjective, just difficult to discern the true shape of, declaring that it's fluid is just intellectual cowardice.

For instance, let's take the common situation of "man who steals food to feed his starving children." This is one moral relativists really like, but does it hold up? No. See, multiple acts in various moral shades are actually being committed here. First, the man is stealing food. Regardless of his reasons, that's an evil thing to do. The shopkeeper needs to feed his kids too, after all, and so do the people who worked and earned money to feed their children. Worse, he creates a pretext for lazy socialist teenagers to vote for con artists like Bernie Sanders, and that's just terrible. Now on to the second part, he is feeding his children with the food he obtained, and risking being curbstomped by the king's guards for doing so. This is a brave thing to do, and the correct action for a father to take. Ultimately what looks at first like a morally grey action is really composed of two, one good and one evil. He is morally inferior to the man who joined the army or saved up to buy a farm to feed his kids, but morally superior to the man who steals for himself. Moral relativism is a dumb meme and I'm glad it's being discarded.

You are.

God is not real.

He may not be, but the existence of God has no bearing on morality.
If God is the perfect embodiment of morality, then morality still exists independtly of God embodying it.
If morality is defined in terms of God, and God does not exist, then we can simply define morality from what God ought be were God real.

Thank You!

>trusting polls that are openly weighted after the past election

>thinking that in a state with several times that number of illegal immigrants where state senators boast about most of their relatives having fake SSNs and where half the population is Mexican and where it is literally illegal to inquire about a prospective voter's immigration status and where they give driver's licenses (the only thing besides residency lists that normally gets checked when you go to vote) to illegal immigrants, where Democrats organize every four years to agitate in poor neighborhoods and bus them to the polls, when all of these factors are taken into account, would not have millions of illegal votes cast in an election where closing the border is a centerpiece issue.
>also thinking the illuminati didn't simply fold into the jesuits

You are though. Results speak for themselves.

You have to be eighteen years of age or older to post on Veeky Forums.

>You know the only reason this is taught in schools is to foster acceptance of cultures that cut off little girls' genitals or eat their own dead, right? Morality isn't subjective, just difficult to discern the true shape of, declaring that it's fluid is just intellectual cowardice.
You know that the only reason /pol/acks go full muh cultural marxism is because is to deflect any actual moral criticism about them wanting to kill niggers and faggots, make women legal minors again because they are all sluts not breeding enough whites for their delusional racial war, right?

California is a MESS!

What evidence do you have that illegal immigrants actually voted in significant numbers?

Seems like a waste of time in a state that already votes blue.

Not an argument.

They also seem to care a lot about womens's genitals but not about the baby boy penises they mutilate.

>Veeky Forums -- r/the_donald invasion

I can tell that you're upset about that, but how is it relevant to the question of whether morality is objective or subjective? If you're really a moral relativist, shouldn't you be viewing their beliefs as equally beneficial and good for society as your own? Being a reactionary, thin-skinned faggot will only bite you in the ass.

Common sense. If the dims can cheat, have an incentive to cheat, and have no qualms about cheating, then they will cheat.

>he needs direct evidence, rather than reasonable inference, to make any conclusions
user, you're one of those people that wouldn't believe touching a stove hurts until he burns his finger.

True, if it weren't for the
>muh popular vote
meme that shitlibs like to peddle.

Dude, coming from a family where like a quarter of my relatives are illegal, they're fucking afraid of going to the doctor here.

How you think they're going to grow the balls to fucking vote?

Lawful Good boringdins are. Thankfully, new d&d allows for wide variety of paladin concepts now.

The fact that hundreds of thousands of them were already caught doing so in the midwest, and due to obstruction from Democrats that's just the ones who were caught because they fucked up and admitted illegal status when they went to re-register? It's far more logical to believe millions of illegals voted in California than it is to believe they all decided to let honest democracy have its day and stayed home with Trump threatening to deport them.

Total population determines electoral votes, and the raw number gives credence to tearful redditors blubbering that Queen Criminal didn't get to be the first lady POTUS.

What? I don't think /pol/ is pro-circumcision, given it's jewish heritage, that asshole Kellogg's reasoning, and the whole "it's a shitty thing only when it happens to men for some reason" angle.

So that's a no, you don't actually have any evidence, you just want to believe it.

>he needs direct evidence, rather than reasonable inference, to make any conclusions
And yet conservatives refuse to acknowledge the highly likely scenario that the Trump administration engaged in shady deals with a foreign power to get elected.

>True, if it weren't for the
>>muh popular vote
>meme that shitlibs like to peddle.
VS
>>the majority of legal citizens are redditors
Hmm...

Because only /pol/acks are complaining about anyone disagreeing with them being cultural marxists.
I never said that I'm a moral relativist, I just don't think /pol/ morality is a morality and even less the objective one.

Actually /pol/ believes circumcision is a Jewish trick altogether. Which is a tangent because >harbors illegals

Why would anyone trust what you have to say?

>The enlightenment was a massive mistake and was the genesis of the scourge of modernity. Fuck off.
Postmodernists are anti-enlightenment. Equality and fraternity are not enlightenment values.

>It's far more logical to believe millions of illegals voted in California than it is to believe they all decided to let honest democracy have its day and stayed home with Trump threatening to deport them.
Why would illegals in California go to vote though? California's electoral votes were going to go for Hillary no matter what, so it wouldn't matter if they stayed home or not.

>champions of the enlightenment and their unlikely christian allies.
Enlightenment values come from Christianity, friendo. Nietzsche was right when he said cutting out the foundation of the enlightenment would cause problems for it.

Most americans voted for Trump because he was the best hope for the working class and Hillary was terrible.
Few are literal /pol/acks.

>morality is relative!
>Oh, /pol/? Let me tell you about all the moral criticism that can be leveled on them!
user, I...
In any case, they're right. A statistical majority of niggers are subhuman, faggots and trannies are the symptom of deeper societal rot, and woman's suffrage is another symptom of the same disease that didn't even bring about the benefits touted. Example: GDP did not double with the sudden inclusion of women in the work force, nor was there even an appreciable change in long term trend models.

user, I don't know if you've ever actually gone to /pol/ or not, but a significant majority despise circumcision. Primarily because it's Jewish, but along with other reasons.

Tell us more about your home board, raider

>Total population determines electoral votes
But electoral votes don't accurately reflect a state's population relative to other states. And since electoral votes are winner-take-all anyway stuffing more blue voters into booths in an already blue state does fucking nothing.

If (((they))) really were doing this they'd be doing it in the blue parts of red states like Texas, where all the major cities as well as the southern region of the state are all fiercely blue but get drowned out by the heavily red rural areas.

>And yet conservatives refuse to acknowledge the highly likely scenario that the Trump administration engaged in shady deals with a foreign power to get elected.
Because it's literally fake news you absolute idiot. As opposed to the ACTUAL EVIDENCE we have of Hillary engaging in shady shit with Russia in regards to uranium deals.

>highly likely

You're behind, the current Dem narrative is that the Russians had trolls make facebook ads, and that wouldn't hold a candle to the shit /pol/ alone was doing during the election. On the other hand, it's a proven fact that the Clinton Foundation was given enormous sums of money and shortly afterwards Hillary, with the support of key Obama administration figures, sold them 20% of our country's uranium, which is being illegally exported out of the country, and also paid for a fake dossier used to justify Watergate-style political spying by the Obama administration on the Trump campaign under the auspices of Susan Rice.

You've got nothing and you know it. Wake up.

>You know that the only reason /pol/acks go full muh cultural marxism is because is to deflect any actual moral criticism about them wanting to kill niggers and faggots,
Doesn't mean progressivism isn't actually the bastard spawn of the Frankfurt school. Stopped clock is right twice a day.

>make women legal minors again because they are all sluts not breeding enough whites for their delusional racial war, right?
>implying /pol/ isn't constantly outraged by various things they view as pushing sexuality on younger audiences
There's plenty wrong with the average /pol/ack, you don't need to make shit up.

>implying I'm not here 70% of the time
/pol/ is just my summer home where I get to yell about black people as much as I want. This thread was bait from the near get go, so I don't care.

Yeah, why should anyone believe someone who has first hand experience with a subject. That's bullshit.

> because he was the best hope for the working class
Right, which is why he's been trying to take away healthcare from millions of them, cutting taxes for the wealthy, gutting drinking water standards so that industry can pollute the country's water ways, and removing financial regulations so that Wall Street can do as they please.

>Background checks exist, though, even at gun shows. Now that this is commonly known, the new anti-freedom shill line is that psychiatric evaluations should be required, which would create a system ripe for abuse.
like a lot of laws it varies state by state

Why do /pol/acks pretend to like things and just be normal crossboarders when they would probably forbidde tabletop games because they are degenerate?

> Doesn't mean progressivism isn't actually the bastard spawn of the Frankfurt school.
Progressivism predates the Frankfurt school by several decades.

>there's evidence of it happening everywhere Democrats can't literally block an investigation
>therefore in the places where they can completely stonewall a federal investigation it clearly didn't happen

>especially if you go all Kipling about the "human burden" of spreading civilization to orcs and elves at the tip of a spear.
>and elves
Come again?

>the best hope for the working class is to treat them like adult children who need to be cared for by the state while they work from cradle to grave
Why are dems such sociopaths?

What evidence are you talking about? You haven't provided any, you've just repeatedly insisted that it must have happened because reasons.

>Because it's literally fake news you absolute idiot.
Nigger Trump Jr. literally outed himself on Twitter.

You claim that Trump is the best hope of the working class. How is coddling the richest and most powerful slice of the population good for the working class?

Because history has proven that if the government doesn't step in on behalf of the citizens then the citizens will be exploited by the rich corporate overlords. This literally happened a century ago, and is happening again right now. And the fucking idiots on the right are letting it happen again.

>having decent water standards, healthcare, and financial regulations are treating the working class like adult children
>things that the rest of the western world easily provide for their own citizens

Because coddling the working class is even worse.

Completely different type of progressivism. The term predates it, what it is now does not. Critical theory and intersectionality all draw back to the Frankfurt school.

As the guy who seems to have started this, I legitimately am just tired of concepts like gray vs gray morality or "so good it's actually evil" in stories. Also a significant chunk of /pol/ is libertarian/ancap.

You're the only one who brought up /pol/ and in a clear attempt to smear people disagreeing with you. Literally complaining about anyone disagreeing with you being a member of other group you dislike, now...why is that familiar again?

>Because only /pol/acks are complaining about anyone disagreeing with them being cultural marxists.

Oh, right, because you're not just intellectually vacuous, and doing a bad attempt at Borking, you also completely lack self-awareness and coherency.

Even if one accepts that, and I don't, how does that justify coddling the rich instead?

Victorian "laissez-faire" was really a golden age for the working class, right?

it built the world

>why did you shoot yourself in the foot?
>well, I COULD shoot myself in the head
Wait, bad example. I didn't mean to imply you, specifically, should not shoot yourself in the head.

>Social liberals control the democrat party
Wew

youtube.com/watch?v=eB6tqxqwSfU

They sure as shit don't control the Republican party.

Because you're literally a criminal taking jobs away from actual Americans? Trusting a parasite would be foolish. God bless ICE, and I hope your grandmother gets beheaded by the cartels the moment her fat spic ass is dumped back on Mexican soil.

user, the government IS the rich corporate overlords. America is a corporatocracy, it's just an implicit one rather than a formalized one, which leads to the abuse and corruption we have seen and are seeing.

And the rest of the western world is a fucking shithole several orders of magnitude lesser than America. Coincidence?

It doesn't, but at least it's not coddling the working class.

If you measure the success of your nation by how happy and comfortable the common plebe is, your nation will never get anywhere.

When the only viable options are shooting yourself in the foot or shooting yourself in the head, you shoot yourself in the foot. Our options are limited by who runs, who among the primaries can win the general election, and who wins the primaries.

Because of anti-Trump hysteria? Because "fuck you orange man I ain't goin' home?"

>leftist calling for violence against those they disagree with politically
How predictable, but at least now there's an excuse for the helicopter rides!

They don't control either, they got ousted years ago. The top people in both parties are corporate shills, obviously, and that hasn't changed, but neo-marxists replaced the social liberals as the people the democrat party's corporate shills listen to.