>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android: >Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA
>mfw Jormugandr will drill all your boyholes with giant snakes.
Its deep drilling time!.
Jace Powell
Jormungandr confirmed for lemon-scented and worst girl?
Jaxson Morales
Are the squats the solution to the nid problem?
Jacob Foster
If I wanted to start playing Orks what's the best way to go about it? Just stalk ebay until you find a cheap lot and strip it?
Isaac Sanchez
I actually miss Guardfags now. Can somebody tell RGG to end his exile so I can see more unbiased, painted batreps?
Josiah Ortiz
Looking to bring this to my LGS for a 1500pt game. Mostly because its what I have painted besides the Electropriests which are a WIP. How does this list look? No idea what I could be playing against.
Austin Ortiz
Is there any non-LOW character that can 1v1 the Swarmlord? Draigo with Heed the Prognosticars, maybe?
Also I can't wait for the Ork codex and Ghaz's upgrade.
Lucas Lee
>How do I Start Collecting! an army? HMMMMMMMM
James Ramirez
>mfw I recognise the source
James Harris
Is there a full pdf/epub of the nid codex out there?
Robert Nguyen
Can Straken with his new Warlord trait? He seems like a bad dude.
Hudson Watson
>Nids and chaos arguing about who is the biggest threat
Meanwhile, the largest and strongest ork who ever lived, leading the largest Waaagh! ever seen, with a dozen clones of himself, was wiped out by a single space marine chapter
Eli Perez
>Squats & Oats >everyone in the Imperium is permanently Veeky Forums
Austin Murphy
So has the Outsiders pity sphere been retconned?
Jack Roberts
>mfw grey Knights have the tyranids menace covered Holy shit dudebros, I played a game against Nids which added in the little bits we have from leaks and boy howdy, even with them GK murderfuck the bug-loving losers. Highlights from the game: >4 hammer-wielding Paladins deleting a haruspex turn one >pair of dreadnoughts taking down a trygon prime with twin lascannon and heavy psycannon >GM in dreadknight 1v1'ing a hive tyrant and utterly destroying him with a combo heavy psycannon+hammertime >apothecary getting 6- yes, six- mortal wounds on an exocrine with purge soul >a strike squad popping in some psybolts and gunnning down 6 warriors (thank god for rerolls) >the glorious space hulk feel of purging some 70-80 gaunts over the course of the game >the doomglaive from above stepping into the ring and BTFO'ing a carnifex in a single round of combat >then the other dread giving a similar treatment to his remaining warriors >Paladins rocking the falchions (with 5A each) brutally facefucking a bunch of raveners >most importantly, the truly badass MFW moment of getting first turn and dropping both my 10-man strike squads right in front of his genestealers blob and taking the fuckas home at the open with nothing but storm bolters and the emperor's fury There were other good moments and I wish I had the thought to get pics for a batrep, but suffice it to say I'm confident Nids aren't a threat with good tactics and Big E's blessing
Nathaniel Bennett
You should probably start by looking at the codex and trying to come up with a loose idea of what you want to use. Then you can go to ebay. I got a megaforce for half price there once. So if you are lucky you really can get a good deal. Especially when GW does a box set like Black Reach or that Blood Angels Campaign box thing they had. Orks are not as popular as Space Marines so the bids usually don't go as high.
Alexander Clark
nigger the book hasnt even come out yet
Mason Richardson
intercessors good for blood angels?
Nicholas Thompson
Hey, can you please help me understand if this hobby is for me?
I've become quite interested in it recently, although I would have preferred to collect and play Fantasy, if it was still around and kicking. I really like the strategy/modelling aspect of the game and was thinking about getting a small IG army to start with.
Problem is that I am quite busy with parenting for the next several months and then I am starting my contract in London, which for the first 6 months will render me completely swamped with work. Moreover, I have a 2 year old kid running around and my wife is a bit anal when it comes to nerd shit - not terrible and controlling, but still anal.
TL;DR Is this hobby suitable for someone with little free time and negative environment at home?
John Ward
Any guesses when the 1k sons codex will be out? I am having trouble deciding how to build the rubrics because I am uncertian due to the new codex and all. Current thousand sons suck however.
Jaxon Long
I love that my Ka'Bandha Denail has reached other Brothers of the Blood
Sebastian Robinson
>intercessors good for blood angels? >intercessors good No.
Ethan Parker
> I am having trouble deciding how to build the rubrics because I am uncertian due to the new codex and all.
same boat here user, I'm thinking a month or two into 2018
Adrian Cruz
user at this point i think everyone recognizes the source
Ayden Martinez
More like the Nids were the final solution to the Squats problem lol.
Owen Phillips
no
Id recommend using your time to grow a pair of balls to not let your wife govern what you do with your free time when you literally slave your life away providing for her
Jack Parker
is this gimmick worth it?
two units of 6 spore mines deepstriking at 12" On turn 1 move 3" advance 3d6 pick the highest (average 5) kraken stratagem doubling the result (average 10) mines are now within 3" in charge phase they explode for a half-dozen mortal wounds per unit
cost 3 CP
Spore mines have a special rule saying they never cost reinforcement points, so these are free-free
Landon Thomas
y
Brody Scott
Nah, not even close. He hits pretty dang hard with 4 S7 attacks hitting on 2s rerolling on the charge, but at AP-1 and 2 damage he won't scratch the paint on Swarmy.
Nathaniel Kelly
I'm sorry user.
To be fair Tyranids strength isn't about any one guy either, even the Swarmlord jobs all the time. It's the strength of the whole that matters.
Nathan Hughes
Not just that You can't even preorder it yet
Mason Butler
sounds like you got some hot dice user
Brayden Sanders
Anyone want to hear a battle report for bangles vs nids? Text only
William Howard
Are you talking about war of the beast? Because that wasn't a single chapter, and that nearly broke Terra unlike Horus' tantrum. War of the Beast showed how dangerous Orks could be. Modern Orks are nothing compared to that, but, it is a tale of what could be.
Grayson Robinson
When was that? Are you talking about the Beast?
Evan Robinson
What is their endgame?
Connor Ramirez
It's weird the the mechanicus don't have a dedicated transport, right? The people who make the dedicated transports for everyone else don't get them.
Dominic Parker
To be spooky Halloween Decorations
Anthony Harris
flayed ones specifically or necrons as a whole?
Brayden Watson
How about a Vortex Missile Strongpoint?
Jonathan Gutierrez
Transports are dead anyway
Cost way too fucking much
Sebastian Jones
This
alternatively show your wife Tyranids and get her into the hobby too
Joseph Thomas
>RGG What and who? This acronym(?) sounds super familiar but I can't place why.
Jeremiah Wilson
Flayed ones.
Jackson Cooper
What if Tzeentch wasn't the god of planning and scheming, but the god of taking credit?
What if Tzeentch was the god of "I meant to do that? How would wh40k be any different?
John Kelly
That would be a total cost of 4CP, require you to have the first turn, and only one of those units can use the Stratagem.
Might still be worth it if the target is right.
Chase Parker
Not having minis and shit around when you have a toddler is understandable, but fuck your wife for being a judgmental bitch about how you innocently want to spend your time.
It's possible to do hobby stuff even with little time (I have to deal with that myself) so long as you motivate yourself to do just a little bit with whatever time you have free. As for the negative environment, I'd say do it in a lockable room that the kid can't wander into and drink paint, and away from the prying eyes of your harrion wife.
Adrian James
skarbrand? bloodthrister of insensate rage does a lot of damage
John Howard
So can a destroyer get the flayer virus and if so what happens?
Lincoln Nelson
To be the most fashionable Necron.
Jace Bennett
They're crazy. Got infected by a vengeful ailment from a c'tan
Zachary Jackson
How do we make Mono-Daemons great again?
Angel Campbell
Overpriced for how easily they melt, especially to D2 weapons. They're not bad or unrunnable per se, they're simply the least useful of the Primaris infantry for their point cost right now.
They're ok if you just want to park a group on an objective away from spooky D2 weapons and melee units, but past that they're a tad meh.
Cooper Barnes
They aren't sane enough to have an endgame.
Wyatt Roberts
Oh yea I guess. Seems kinda odd it comes with a painboy and not a Warboss or something. Well I've always liked the looten and crazy tech side of Orks so I'd probably do a Deff Dread Mob style list with some boy support. How many boys should I look into getting? I hear you kinda need alot.
Hunter Mitchell
There would be literally no difference. Half the time Tzeentch's own plans hinder his position in the great game because he knows if Chaos actually wins then there will be nothing for Chaos to feed on so the god of change is ironically keeping the status quo
Nathaniel Sanders
>TL;DR Is this hobby suitable for someone with little free time GW's business model is to push as much plastic crack as they can. IG is a horde army. You'll be painting even more models than the guys doing Space Marines and pay more for it too. So if time is that much of a consideration I'd advise you to either pick up one of the playsets by GW, which usually comes with a predetermined number of models and you can sell it to your wife as a boardgame, or drop GW and pick up a skirmish game instead. There are a shitload of other games on the market that need a lot less miniatures and would be more feasible to get involved in for someone with less time.
>and negative environment at home? That's something you gotta work out with your wife. I'm kind of with on this one. Do what you want with your time.
Andrew Rivera
It certainly felt like it, but aside from psybolts taking down warriors I checked and it was all pretty much statistically average. I just thought it was funny people saying GK flounder against Nids only for me to find they generally conter them very well
Ian Phillips
>Transports are dead anyway
>Cost way too fucking much Enter the Wave Serpent.
Carson Thompson
>Is there any non-LOW character that can 1v1 the Swarmlord? Probably not, but fuck the Swarmlord, Old One Eye solo's Guilliman and Knights on the charge now.
Adrian Gomez
The general opinion of most primaris marines is that they are generally pretty shit, but are there situations when they're effective?
Zachary Richardson
Go on ebay and buy loads of boyz for cheap
120 is a good standard for your lists, enough to support yourself and not be useless, but not enough to take over your entire list
Zachary Edwards
>Old One Eye solo's Guilliman and Knights on the charge now bullshit
Chase Perry
That is truly funny, but I'd wait for confirmation on the relics on named characters thing
Gavin Cox
Sounds like his nid opponent was just trash.
Samuel Bell
If there is no difference between Tzeentch being the god of "I meant to do that" and the god of infinite masterful planning, is it not simpler/easier to believe that he's only the God of "I meant to do that"
Really, I'm amused by the idea of an incompetent God yelling "JUST AS PLANNED" regardless of outcome.
Carter Hill
The avatar of khaine goes toe to toe with no buff Swarmy.
Connor Reed
>so I'd probably do a Deff Dread Mob style list Then ebay is a good place to start. As long as you are not too picky. > How many boys should I look into getting? I hear you kinda need alot. My advice may be a bit outdated, but in a Kult of Speed army you don't need a lot. In that case you'll only pack a few guys to put in trukks and the rest are gonna be bikes. If you want to use cans and stuff like that you are gonna be a bit slower anyway, so loading up on footsloggers isn't a bad plan.
Isaiah Rodriguez
>require you to have the first turn
Yes, but If you don't get first turn you don't have to spend the CP or spawn the mines, so it's not like it's committing part of the army to a tactic that only works half the time.
>only one of those units can use the stratagem
Good point, it's impossible to make it into explode range without using the strat so really only one unit will be blowing up first turn
Adam Lopez
Was mathed out in the last thread.
Gavin Wilson
People don't know how to play against 'Nids. They never learned how cuz 'Nids historically sucked. Now everyones freaking out.
All you have to do is kill the synapse creatures.
Kevin Miller
Yes.
Josiah Baker
the redeptor is decent. Standard primaris aren't that good, but a squad of stalker bolters sitting in the back in cover blasting at IG heavy weapon teams is something I like
Nicholas Gomez
Hey guys, I need some help choosing a Hive Fleet for my Tyranids. I know the book isn't out yet but the leaks covered almost everything and I can't decide.
So, usually I played (at 1500 pts):
-Swarmy -Malanthrope -2 Carnifexes (OOE and Stonecrusher)
-Exocrine -Hive Guard -Warriors for backline synapse
-Trygon Prime with ~20-30 Devilgants
With the changes I'm planning to hide the Malanthrope in the back and give the Carnifexes spore cysts. But I'm still unsure which Carnifex type to play and which Hive Fleet.
Repost since I'm still unsure..
Asher Brooks
>Yes, but If you don't get first turn you don't have to spend the CP or spawn the mines, so it's not like it's committing part of the army to a tactic that only works half the time. That's a good counterpoint. In that case, neat trick if you find a situation where you think it will make a difference.
Parker Thomas
Well I specifically mentioned that she's not controlling about it - I do my by-weekly RP nights with friends and am generally free to do my shit. But she cannot help but dislike it, hence me mentioning it; at most I get a few eye rolls and teasing here and there. If she was a controlling bitch I would have dropped her long time ago - and certainly would not have wanted to have kids with her.
>you literally slave your life away providing for her We both work. Moreover, since I am between jobs, for the time being it's technically the opposite. Again, I'd not have wanted to live with a toxic leech.
Gavin Kelly
buy the ork christmas bundle coming out, grab a start collecting if you're itching to get some models built and painted
Nathaniel Stewart
its probably most useful for "sniping" support characters that aren't fully bubble wrapped.
Matthew Ramirez
>and give the Carnifexes spore cysts OOE can't take spore cysts and unless FW FAQs it Stonecrushers can't either.
If you're really unsure just go Jormungandr, get 2+ save on the Exocrine and Trygon and bring another infantry unit in with the Trygon for only 1CP to support the devilgaunts.
Parker Lopez
he had some shitty grey army with bright orange bases and was super autistic, he posted blurry-out-of-focus pictures as a "batrep"
Angel Cox
Can I use the updated points cost for Eldar units in a Ynnari army?
Grayson Ortiz
>Implying Tyranids aren't but playthings for the Deldars Good one user
Jaxon Reyes
How the hell do i play Alpha Legion in a fluffy way? The CSM Codex certainly doesn't seem to fit them.
Grayson Parker
>ork christmas budle
wat
Gavin Campbell
Not only can you, you have to.
John Reed
>Codex Daemons gives benefits if your detachment contains keywords for aligning to a single God >Khorne Daemons get deny the witch stratagem and reroll charges trait >Tzeentch Daemons get Psyker stratagem and +1 to psychic tests trait >Nurgle Daemons get some mortal wounds dealing disease stratagem and the -1 to hit outside of 12" trait >Slaanesh Daemons get copy pasted Emperor's Children stratagem and the Night Lords -1 Leadership trait Calling it now. I do hope each of the three psychic gods get a 6 power discipline each while Khorne gets a Blood Tithe stratagem, and three Warlord Traits for each God.
Asher Miller
Whats in the Christmas bundle?
Nathan Watson
gw sells army bundles during christmas time, buy as many boxes as you can afford because they're limited and save a good amount of money
but like I said, if you need something NOW grab a start collecting
Jaxson Sullivan
What would you take as troops for SM then? Scouts or tacs?
Tacs are so expensive but I feel like a plasma or lascannon could be nice in the squad. But scouts with bolters and cloaks can play a good midfield game
Camden Perry
>The CSM Codex certainly doesn't seem to fit them.
Yeah it does.
Logan Bell
>he knows if Chaos actually wins then there will be nothing for Chaos to feed on This isn't true. Chaos lives in infinite dimensions and doesn't need mortals to survive. >inb4 Carnac Just because you don't like something doesn't make it untrue.
Easton Russell
I'm beginning to think Tyranids should be allowed to ally with Slaanesh for how similar the players tend to be.
Joseph Phillips
Use ultramarine rules.
Christopher Reyes
Actually since someone mentioned it, how much do the christmas bundles typically go for? I might need to get some extra hours in so I can afford one, and have all the miniatures I need to paint for a year.
Charles Fisher
Not a bad choice! Skarbrand deals a fuckton of damage, can even get the Swarmlord to degrade on the charge. Wait, with his +A aura he does it in one round, and that's through the new 3++. Clears the S threshold for wounding him on 2s, which is big.
Really a matter of who swings first, since both Swarmlord and Skarbrand (and the Insensate Bloodthirster) deal enough damage to degrade the other in one turn, at which point it's a done deal. Really, whoever swings first wins. Looks like we got a match!
Jackson Jackson
Just play codex marines and paint the front like ultra marines and the back as alpha legion.
FW had a list with SM character leading human cultists. That may work.
Gabriel Scott
Nerfs
Lincoln Morris
>transports suck
When a list that spammed razorbacks and fucking tac marines topped a tournament