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Blood Angels and Dark Angels Should be squatted and put into Codex Space Marines.
Liam Morales
No, they should be kept in the closet.
Parker Smith
Fuck the haters
David Myers
> Found out at the FLGS that GW no longer sells Imperial Primer in a pot > Cute girl who plays D&D there waved at me
Today has been a rollercoaster of emotion
Luis Martinez
Naw, I can't wait to hear weeks and weeks about how slighted BA-fags are when they aren't turned into the best melee codex in the game. "Muh Death Company should be like flying, unkillable Khorne Berzerkers that can deep strike directly into CC."
Landon Gomez
I know you're rusing, but they play so differently from vanilla marines (as well as have so many exclusive units) that it would be dumb to do that.
Cameron Evans
Get Vallejo acrylic-polyurethane surface primer.
Julian Scott
is there a reason why flesh tearers color scheme is the same as heresy era bkiid angels?
Zachary Phillips
local tournie has 3 parts and one is 500 pts. what chaos soup units would be worthwhile to get me a leg up? I have mostly nurgle stuff
Brandon Thomas
> Undercoating from a pot.
What the fuck is wrong with you...
Levi Myers
Mortarion.
Sebastian Fisher
Probably something to do with being the very first BA successors.
Xavier Morgan
Some people have uncooperative weather.
Grayson Anderson
I've been using the Privateer Press P3 stuff because it works well and is only $3
Justin Garcia
>they play so differently from vanilla marines No, they don't.
Nolan Baker
>500pts >Mortarion and one Malefic Lord PERFECT
Isaac Cox
Well you can spray inside, just get a particle mask and open the windows.
David Lee
It rains on average a little more than 200 days a year where I live.
Camden Jones
>Exclusive units >Just Angry Marines, Special Vanguard Veterans, and 3 Special Dreadnoughts. Oh yea so many exclusive units.
Blake Cook
Does anyone know if the pheromone trail stratagem specifies or tyranid? I need to know if it works on genestealer cultists.
Landon Baker
Random lore question. What would happen if a blank and psyker were cross bred artificially?
Jace Scott
I can see Codex Marines and Non Codex Marines getting separate books, but I don't think we need literally books of space marines.
Space Marines, Blood Angels Space Marines, Dark Angel Space Marines, Grey Knights Space Marines, Death Watch Space Marines, Space Wolves Space Marines.
Fuck off, mate.
James Flores
How dare you belittle their divergence. Tactical Squads that hit slightly harder on the charge play radically differently from regular Tactical Squads.
Daniel Allen
> Just get a particle mask and open the windows and get spraypaint all over your fucking apartment because airborne paint particles won't all go in the box
Stop being retarded
Tyler Davis
they didn't specify no LOW so that is possible. I considered putting in an order for a dual grav flux leviathan to be a real jerk but I want to stick to what I have and what is arguably not 100% cheese
Kayden Scott
Well it's impossible to be both so one or the other if any.
Jace Brooks
How many characters do you have in your army
Henry Kelly
Anyone try the different varient weapons on the Hellblaster squads? I've only ever faced the Incinerator, but I feel like the Assault and Heavy Variants might get some use somewhere. Hell, the Heavy variant if nothing else at least gives the Primaris SOME kind of long range firepower, yet I don't think I've ever seen it on the TT.
Oliver Sullivan
Don't forget special landspeeders and predators, dummy
Landon Morales
Blood and Dark Angels would be relatively easy to roll into Codex: Space Marines. Deathwatch too.
Grey Knights and Space Wolves have too much junk though.
Brandon Lewis
Do we have special Land Speeders?
Bentley Clark
Genetics. You'd get expression of one of the traits or neither. Likely you'd just get a fairly normal human.
Joshua Evans
3 Tank Commanders, 3 Company Commanders, 3 Commissars who are now playing as Platoon Commanders since Catachans get Ld. 8 either way, and a Techpriest.
Those Platoon and Company Commanders all get power swords. With orders, they can be surprisingly deadly in melee.
Christian Gutierrez
Of course it fucking does.
People have been spraying indoors for ages.
Connor Morris
Truly, the placement of Assault Cannons onto a Predator renders the Blood Angels into a fighting force wholly distinct from their codex brethren.
Juan Ross
DA do. Which is what I think he's referring to.
Xavier Campbell
my wife for the swarm.
Camden Edwards
If they're going to roll everyone up we need two books. Like Horus Heresy. One with all the generic shit in and one with the 'legions' or chapters in. other wise it's going to be like 300 pages.
Isaac Bennett
Usually 3-5. Some combination of Ahriman, Prince, Terminator Sorcerer, Changeling, Lord of Change/Kairos, Herald on Disc.
Cameron Lopez
Hey guys. I remember seeing a Google Sheet for ork mathhammer "Orkz is for fightin" but I lost the link, does anyone have it to share again?
Carson Wilson
Honestly turning them back into an overcharged engines rhino rush army might be an interesting angle.
Ethan Davis
Do the new army sets save you any money or it just another one click collection type shit?
Also the new Nid start collecting is worse than the old one.
Ork characters should really cost a lot less considering how fucking many you need to buff your army
Jaxson Reed
Or just add the ~10-15 pages needed. You'd only need maybe a dozen datasheets for their truly unique shit; many can be represented via wargear additions to existing models (just let all preds take flamers/assault cannons, let honor guard take jump packs, etc).
Brandon Murphy
Since the difference between S6 and S7 is almost immaterial this edition, the Assault 2 version is probably best, as it can be fired after advancing and can fire two shots up to 24", much better medium-range firepower than the Heavy 1 or Rapid Fire 1 version.
Adrian Harris
Rhino Rush isn't exactly a unique playstyle, and "their Rhinos move an extra couple inches" is hardly a massive divergence from the norm.
Gavin Thomas
Yeah but people want all the fluff text and stuff as well.
Luke Allen
Morty will bring a bit of cheese, but you can't let him too far out in front.
John Perez
user may i ask what army you play that you are so mad at Blood Angels?
Jace Bennett
So make the codex a bit bigger. The Space Marine codex could be doubled in size and still be smaller than a FW rulebook.
Juan Myers
My guess is Bangels will generate extra attacks on 6's, and be able to advance and charge, or reroll charges.
Joshua Foster
I mean give them a rule like letting them disembark at the end of the movement phase. But my bad, I shouldn't have replyed to you. I didn't intend to join your argument about "BA shouldnt get a codex" or whatever.
Isaiah Barnes
>u mad No, you stupid. Blood Angels just aren't that unique. They'll get their codex, but some of the wishlisting coming out of these threads is ridiculous.
Asher Adams
yeah, but I don't have a morty model and would prefer not to drop 100ish bucks on something that I will ruin with a lazy paintjob.
I may go for a DG patrol with a fancy winged demon prince, MSU blight launcher PM, and some nurgle demon vehicles to fill out the back end
Camden Diaz
He got tabled by a BA player once and will continue to reeee about it forever
Caleb Ross
Re-roll charges seems unlikely given BT. Advance and charge seems boring but possible.
Matthew Wood
>My guess is Bangels will generate extra attacks on 6's, and be able to advance and charge, or reroll charges. Unlikely. Look at what Black Templars and World Eaters got for sub-faction bonuses (and both of them are more melee centric and more restricted than BA).
But wishlisting is part of the whole tradition of anticipating a new codex.
Zachary Adams
user that does not answer my question. What army do you play?
Levi Reyes
No user its only okay when the Guard eldar and nidfags do it. If you are a space marine you are suppose to want your codex to be as mediocre as possible.
Thomas Walker
Despite the validity or not of the whole "REEEEEEE BA aren't different" the fact remains that GW has a whole codex to work with for rules for them. BT and WE do not. I don't think you can assume that's the baseline.
Jayden Thompson
Every marine gets wanked in the lore. Death Company are unsettling because they're delusional and degenerate.
Hunter Williams
does anyone have the picture of the nid stratagems from the codex that was posted a while ago?
Mason Ortiz
Unless you're spraying wildly or using a tiny ass box you'll be fine.
Ian Sanders
A whole codex that will be primarily reprints from Codex: Space Marines.
Do you not see where balance issues would come in if BA get wildly better rules than other, more melee centric MEQ armies?
Alexander Kelly
Just enough to meet minimum HQ requirements.
Nolan Reyes
A lot of what made BA unique has been allowed to bleed into codex marines (Vanguard Vets) or just isn't relevant in 8th (FA favored force org manipulation).
So yes the Index isn't that different, but there is room for the codex to build that out if GW wants to.
Lucas Cruz
user, the moment you resort to "u mad", you've lost.
Isaiah Parker
No? Nobody is playing those armies at a competitive level. A BA dex won't change that one way or another. Rowboat and Raven Guard will continue to keep standard SM relevant.
Ethan Russell
Pheromone Trails works with any Tyranid infantry unit. Which means it works with genestealer cult units arriving from cult ambush.
With lictors on the map, you can guarantee at least a normal deep strike for your genestealer cultists units arriving from cult ambush.
That's pretty nice.
Jackson Scott
Whats this high STR stuff for carnifex about?
Asher Long
I was looking at math for dakkafexes in the new codex, and it looks like GW have ballsed up the balance again. Devourers are even with or outright superior to deathspitters against everything but toughness 7.
Jace Sullivan
I am not arguing with you tho. I just want to know what army you play. If you want me to say im sorry for asking you why you seem to be angry about Blood Angels getting their own codex its not going to happen.
Henry Williams
It's casual balance that would get fucked. Nobody but autists care about whatever cancer lists dominate the "competitive" scene.
Kayden Turner
I'm looking into getting into Dark Eldar and I am torn a bit I don't know which to focus on more the Kabal or the Coven. Biggest problem is I know how I would go about playing Kabal just out them in raiders and pretend the floor is lava, but I don't know I one should play coven and their monsters.
Anyone here have an idea on how a coven army should be played?
Grayson Nguyen
Yeah. Really good backup for bad ambush rolls.
Alexander Campbell
not gonna lie, if someone tried to pull this on me in a real game, I'd just pack up my models and leave. That's pretty waacfaggy.
Evan Peterson
I like ur army.
Juan Flores
I'd imagine that sex between the two would be extremely painful for the psyker for one.
Jordan Roberts
>T'au Tank buffs or something, they got Longstrike locked to them >Viorlos Fire warrior spam. Aggressive fire warriors >Sacea -1 to hit? Whatever urban warfare expert means >Enclaves Aggressive fire warriors. But BATTLESUIT spam
Ian Long
>casual balance So I take it you're a BT or WE player and would be offended if BA get cool stuff because it doesn't fit the fluff for you? That's not really a balance issue, just sour grapes. Just because some subfaction rules are underwhelming doesn't mean they should purposely gimp a codex to be weaker than them. If they are going to do a whole codex on them then they absolutely SHOULD go all out making them cool. And besides I'm sure World Eaters will get their own dex with new toys down the line when they do Angron.
Charles Carter
Fellow Nidfags
Monstrous Rending Claws is still the best melee option for Hive Tyrants.
Julian Harris
Nid pdf when?
Dylan Peterson
>codices pretty marines and codex gays *yawn*
Jaxon Russell
There's FAQ out about doing this stuff with Death Guard and CSM. The rules are clear at this point. It's just Nids doing their own version of a Imperial or Chaos Soup army.
William Thomas
Next saturday
Brody Jones
What about ranged?
Isaac Morgan
Typing that up, right now.
William Long
>codices pretty marines Thats not till next year sometime
Benjamin Wilson
So nobody's bitching about Eldar post-launch. I can assume the "-3 to hit" thing was either a lie or cost too much?
Easton Ward
How would I make a fluffy Kronos army? Competitiveness isn’t my main concern, I want a force that reflects the kinds of things nids would bring to fuck up chaos from a lore standpoint
Jonathan Stewart
Both actually
Hemlocks can only go to -2 and rangers don't put out enough fire power to warrant taking them.
Angel Miller
Emperors Children are going to be such a fucking good release
>Noise Marines >Phoenix Terminators >Fulgrim >several clampack characters >some sort of sonic dreadnought or warmachine >Maybe Sonic bikers/Doomrider
I can only get so erect
Chase Perez
>the only way for BA to be cool is to better than everyone else WAACfag please go and stay go.