Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

>want to make gunline Death Guard army with tanks and tons of rerolls
>want to make poxwalker horde army, focussing on psychic stuff and elite character buffers
>want to make daemons and death guard hybrid to gain benefit from epidimus and shit

Mortarion isn't even in any of the lists I'm working towards. I love this Codex so much. Fluff is a bit weak though.

I haven't seen one of these in a long time

Just never take Mortarion and you're fine. Typhus is better anyway.

Relying on deep strike charges is bad.

I'd rather have gotta go fast nids of Kraken. They're even great with Carnifexes since they can charge after falling back.

I'd go gay for the Lion

Ive got Armies on Parade today, wish me luck

youtube.com/watch?v=GPE2kNSHe8M

"...to ensure that HUMAN life, not INSECT, dominates this galaxy now and always!"

youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk

So, while I understand the "point" or specific appeal of the Deathwatch army is varied squad loadouts, what's the value of running squads equipped fully or almost fully with:
>heavy thunder hammers
Will they have enough mobility in power armour? I like the models.
>deathwatch shotguns
Will they have enough firepower?
>regular bolters
Same as above? Can the Deathwatch make decent pseudo-tacsquads or are they doomed to be sternguard tier in commonality?
>infernus bolters
Are they good en-masse as aggro units or are they better used as accompaniments to stalker bolter squads for the overwatch potential?

Typhus is shit for gunline death guard
So is Mortarion for that matter

His new neck beard really doesn't do it for me. I'd always envisioned him as a kind of like Sean Bean's Sharpe

>>deathwatch shotguns
They are the Melta of Small arms fire.

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=66AWetS2hPQ

>furries buttmad over the truth

Deathwatch is only cool because you get to have multiple chapter guys in your squads.

That's it.

Grey Knights are boring and one note too.

Not sure why anyone would play either army desu.

Making a plan for a hypothetical narrative campaign I came up with last night. If I lose I replace all my 40 Skitarii with Skitarii using GSC bodies, since it looks pretty sweet.
If I win, my army gets access to a world with populations of contained Tyranids for study, so I want to incorporate some Nid bitz into my army.
I was thinking of making some more Kairic Electros, this time Corpuscarii wielding implanted Nid guns with mechanical cables and such added.
What would be a good gun to come reasonably close to Assault 3 12" S5 Taser? I was considering 'Gant Devourers cut down to just the barrels replacing one hand, with some extra mechanical parts, and others with two Fleshborers.

Carapace sections would be painted in metal, fleshy bits in Servitor Flesh like the rest, and I'd add glowy diodes and cables and stuff to blend things in a little more.

>furries
Go for the low hanging fruit of insults eh champ?

yeah, nah

Both armies' models are really cool and the fluff is pretty awesome as well.

Deathwatch also get the Blackstar, which is probably the coolest looking flyer GW has put out so far.

I thought Kraken's trait was just the ability to fall back and charge? it makes Genestealers more mobile?

iirc Tyranid special characters can have traits and Relics, and someone mathed out that Old One Eye with the behemoth relic and warlord trait, using the behemoth stratagem, can just run up and goomba stomp shit more than twice his points cost on the charge, like primarchs and knights

unless that was disproven, I havent had the patience to sift through another blurry youtube video of a codex since the out of focus crooked eldar one

GKs have the best looking Terminators in the game man, thats reason enough for me.

> Guard players don't understand that the film was a satire of fascism

what should I use as a mouldline remover for my models?

I use a bog standard chaos lord with arch contaminator.
Also a DP with Suppurating Plate

I'm jelous of his ability to afford all that forgeworld.

We don't?

eh, honestly I think they benefited from the less is more approach, they were always better and more interesting as hyper-specialised super-elite allies. trying to make them an army really just dilutes what makes them interesting

well played

Starship troopers did nothing wrong

Really? That's good to hear. Are they cheap enough with shotties and chainswords to be used as a general-purpose semi-spam unit rather than just the perfect anti-GEQ unit?
Also melta is technically a small arm. The inferno pistol especially so. Speaking of, is adding the inferno pistol to a hammer unit going to be good for LR-busting or is it just going to be a pain?/spoiler]

Kraken's trait was leaked, but only half of it. They get to fall back and charge but also when they advance, they roll 3 dice and pick the highest. So you're gonna get really consistent results.

Their stratagem allows you to double your advance roll so you'd get 10-12" on your advance quite reliably on an 8" movement unit, which can then charge. Very fast shit.

Also their relic is decent. -1 to hit.

You can use a sharp knife, or buy the citadel tools if you can afford it. Also sandpaper.

How extensive and/or expensive are the screens you include in your army? My Admech have 2x10 Vanguard, sometimes with the full Plasma Caliver loadout to stand in front of the artillery, but I'm beginning to think that's a waste and I should just cut them down to 5-man squads and qualify for a cheap Brigade.

My other idea was to come up with an Admech Conscripts conversion and add in a 370-point allied Valhallan Batallion of 2 Lord Coms and 90 Conscripts to screen my army comfortably, as well as changing the Vanguard squads to Breachers or Destroyers for better firepower at range if they get a points cut in Chapter Approved. Expensive, and I'd probably have to drop 20 out of 40 Fulgurites or something, but they should absorb melee very happily.

>We totally need a codex for our grey tactical squad that can take melee weapons and our Terminator Squads that can take slightly different wargear, otherwise we can't play our faction!!!1!

I use a standard lord with arch contaminator too. What do you run with him? I've got 8 Blight Launchers and 4 Plasma, so enough for 4, 5 man squads. Might work well with him. Also tanks maybe?

Why should we stop there? We can probably roll the GK and DW into the main dex just make them a variant of termies and tac squads it would be pretty easy.

Gee, and here I was thinking the almost exact copies of nazi uniforms were pure coincidence...

yeah, nah

32 Poxwalkers. They are a nice bubble wrap for everything

dubs chooses my color scheme

>I wish my !not-ultramarine chapter was unique enough to warrant their own codex
Pray to the emperor hard enough and maybe it’ll happen, baby

>Guard players don't understand that the film was a satire of fascism
Satires of fascism don't work because they either make fascism look good or are too direct and preachy to be funny.

Let's just throw all the npc xenos into one codex, it's not like any of their fluff is worth reading anyway.

How do you spread them out? What squad sizes?

White all over with pink groin and butt plates.

>The inferno pistol especially so
>Paying 20 points for shitty melta
A-Atleast Blood Angels get cool Melta options. Right? R-Right?

Blue and orange

Deathwatch absolutely. Grey Knights actually have some mechanics that are different and share barely any units with codex marines.

I mean why not? Orks and Nids are pretty similar. Could throw Eldar together into one book also Dark Eldar aren't that different outside of fluff. Just throw the Tau into the Guard Codex as some small Xeno Faction.

don't forget the scout and dreadnought rules
oh and the flyers
and the characters
and the rules for taking champions in each unit

to be fair the book war sincere, the films were more or less a parody of the books

R8, h8 or ber8

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>the book was sincere
End your life

Guess I can call it a day, right?

Battalion Detachment [53 PL, 999pts]

HQ
Brotherhood Champion: 2: Hammer of Righteousness, Curiass of Sacrifice, Hammerhand, Storm bolter, Warlord
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight: Dreadfist, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis Daemon Greathammer

Troops
Strike Squad
- 4x Grey Knight (Falchions): 4x Storm Bolter
- Grey Knight Justicar: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm bolter
2x Terminator Squad
- Grey Knight Terminator Justicar: Nemesis Daemon Hammer, Storm bolter
- 4x Terminator (Falchions): 4x Storm Bolter

While the movies intent was satire, the novel was not. Robert A. Heinlein intended the novel to be how he thought the world should be ran.

While the movie was slightly campy, its message is the same as the book.

Good film.

so now that the codex is out can Jain Zar take on Lelith Hesperax and win?

i use guardians in my eldar army, 10 with a gun. they did alright against orks and they allowed me to engage with the shining spears when i wanted. didn't protect the farseer from getting charged but that was a major tactical blunder on my part

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My first models from the start collecting box, did I do good?

Ignore the bit on the sword... I fixed that already.

>moviefag doesn't realize the book was never satire

Is this good?

fanatical.com/en/game/segas-ultimate-warhammer-40000-collection

£32.49 squid for DoW1, DoW2, Space Marine. All DLC, Expansions and so on.

I have him babysit my 3 Plagueburst Crawlers with Entropy Cannons. This way they are really fucking deadly and make all the guardfags at my LGS cry. Also I love Plague Marines but they just haven't been cost effective at all so I just run 2x5 of them with plasmas. Also Blightlords are great for both shooty and choppy.

Remove moldlines and magnetize your stuff mate. Buy a drill for $2 and 100 magnets for $1 on aliexpress

I want to run a Primaris-only army.

How did I do?

Battalion Detachment

Captain in Gravis Armour (Boltstorm Gauntlet, MC Power Sword) - 137
Primaris Lieutenants x2 (MC Auto Bolt Rifle) - 148

Intercessor Squad [5 Man] (Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Power Sword) - 105
Intercessor Squad [5 Man] (Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Power Sword) - 105
Intercessor Squad [5 Man] (Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Power Sword) - 105

Redemptor Dreadnought (Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Redemptor Fist) - 206

Hellblaster Squad [5 Man] (Plasma Incinerator) - 165

TOTAL: 971/1000

>using Terminators over Paladins
AAAAARRRGH
You hurt me brother
Why do you do this?
Do you want to autolose every game?
NEVER use terminators. No amount of CP or obsec in the world will ever make them a viable alternative to Paladins.

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Good Luck, user. Also, 2 things?

Is the audio quality that I hear a product of a bad mic on the recording device or limitations of the board itself?

How is the soundboard controlled? Because if your FLGS can't turn off that sound I'd feel real bad for them.

Those are just my legit concerns. I really do wish you lots o luck.

Man, remember when this use to be good looking?

Does he have to hotglue his models?

Well in 7e it had the +1A going for it, and now in 8e the change to pistols might make it good for dealing with termies and monsters in melee, and/or good for squads that are going to be charging land raiders to begin with (I don't know, I haven't used them).
That said, the fact that they're more expensive than combi-meltas puts the kibosh on them by default, I'm just considering whether there's any use for them as sub-optimal but not garbage weapons for modelling coolness factor.

>He thinks a variant that can literally be represented by a one-line rule on the basic scout/dreadnought sheet warrants a seperate codex
user do you have mental damage?

Suggestions?
Yes BattleScribe format sucks we all know that.
I want the image list builder for easy sharing back

which are the smallest magnets sizes that work well?

How do you use Blightlords? Do you deepstrike them in? Surely its a bit hard to get that to work if your lord is babysitting tanks? Or do you use the DP to give them reroll 1s?

Literally preaches at you. Try again.

you can buy 1mm but I'm using 2mm and 3mm for really heavy stuff. 2mm should work fine with warriors

So I was looking around for listbuilders, and I came across Battlescribe
I'm sorry but how can something this poorly made be at all popular?

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tell me about wolfscouts user

because its the only one out there

RIP picture list builder ;_;7

Holy shit is the Malanthrope big. How the fact it's not targetable while he's taller than a Tervigon?

That was fast.

In general, what models should I magnetize? Should I do it to all my models?

Fucking lol.

They’re overpriced as fuck for hammer units, and heir guns don’t lend hem selves to the task unless you go pure combi-melta (even then you won’t get melta rule).

They’re better as objective-taking/holding units that can nab you a couple of vp. Just build them barebones.

Yes, even the gaunts

D U B Z
>Blue and orange
Those are nice colors, actually.

He's only doing it for 1000 points but you're absolutely right. For 9pts you get beefier terminators that excel at their job.

it used to be better

at first glance looked like whole army was unpainted, i was pleasantly surprised.

sneaky colourscheme is sneaky

I'm thinking of running them with 3 combi-bolters, 1 reaper autocannon and 1 flail. Pretty cheap and cool IMO.

Blood angels assault terminators

Chappy?
Priest needed?
2 claw 3 shield?
stormraven?