why do people get so fucking mad when people want to consider female space marines? why is it such a bad thing that GW wants to branch out to other groups of people?
>inb4 some generic /pol/ tier response about muh genes
the fact that there are primaris marines proves that GW could make female space marines cannon
fuck off
took this from another user, as I feel it illustrates the point well.
1.)
its impossible in the current lore. The making of space marines is one of the oldest and most solidified parts of 40k lore. The very nature of the gene seed and the process of creating a space marine ensure that it is impossible for it to be compatible with a female. most people are confused about what "gene seed" actually is. gene-seed is just a commonly used term genetic material that is used to fabricate the extra organs a space marines has. The gene-seed is more like a template that hails from one of the 20 primarchs that the emperor of mankind created. The emperor was a genius, and the art of creating primarchs died along with him, not that he would ever reveal the secrets of creating space marines. Since the gene-seed comes from a primarch, and is used to craft the specialized organs that makes a human into a space marine. Gene-seed DOES NOT TURN MEN INTO SPACE MARINES, THE ORGANS DO. the organs are what shape a man into a space marine, basically turning him into a genetic clone of him primarch, this is why space marines look like brothers and call each other brothers, because they are brothers by inheritance of the organs. this is why all salamanders are black, all blood angels look like Aryans, and all space wolfs look like Nordic vikings, its because they inherit the traits of their primarch. for their to be a female space marine would mean there would have to be a female primarch, which there are none of. females are fundamentally incompatible with the 19 types of gene-seed because they are females, and the gene-seed would twist them in a way that would kill them, hell, it nearly kills most men. here is an interesting article highlighting the issues of cross gender organ transplants, which is not nearly as changing as the gene-seed is webmd.com
2.)
even if females could receive the gene-seed successfully there still would not be any female space marines due to the fact that men are generally just stronger than women. Chapters that do not have home worlds recruit from random worlds, looking for people that make the grade. a space marine chapter on average finds one, maybe two dudes that are even worthy of consideration. the requirements to even begin the road to becoming a space marine are astronomically high. Men have denser muscles, stronger bones, stronger tendons, bigger organs, broader shoulders, thinner waists, less body fat (especially around the stomach), and faster reaction times. in fact, the only thing women beat men in is that they feel slightly less pain (a result of evolution and child birth). this is not theory crafting like you asshurt aspies do, this is proven fact. you take the strongest man on a world and compare him to the strongest women and the man will dominate the women. This is just how women and men evolved, strong sturdy men were desirable in a feral world just like small, fragile, yet beautiful women were desired by those men. This is something that can never be overcome without eugenics, something that is completely pointless if you can just find a man to do the job. Think of the imperial guard as the U.S army and the space marines are Spec Ops. There are women in the army because standards are intentionally lowered so they can get in (look at PT requirements for men and women in the army if you do not believe me). However THERE ARE NO WOMEN IN THE SPECIAL FORCES OF ANY BRANCH OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY, this is because unlike the army, Spec Ops does not give a fuck about being politically correct, they set standards and if you cannot meet them, regardless of your sex, you can't become one. like the imperial guard, the army will lower performance to increase body count, but Spec Ops will sacrifice body count for performance.
3.)
so lets say We ignore both 1 and 2, female space marines are still retarded because the very act of becoming a space marine means throwing away what it means to be human and dedicating both your life and soul to defending humanity. Space marines dont even have sex organs most of the time, and the ones who do dont have libido or any semblance of a sex drive, such would be a distraction. The mission of the adeptus astartes is to make the perfect killing machine that isnt distracted by things like lust, love, envy or greed. Female space marines would probably just look and act just like male space marines, everything that would mark them as being feminine would be cut away and removed so there inst the risk of distraction. GW would have to change a shitload of well established lore just to crowbar in female space marines, and the difference would be non-existent beside the fact that they are technically females. You cannot think of space marines as humans, they are barely human as they have thrown away their very humanity to defend the imperium. this is why it would also not matter if a space marine was black, trans, or gay because they second they become an Astarte they throw away basically anything that makes them an individual. Space marines are the ultimate fascists, caring only about combat prowess and loyalty, nothing else. it would be purely token to crowbar in such things because they would have no effect.
please fuck off with this "female space marine" bullshit, all it shows is that you are not actually invested in the lore at all and know close to nothing about one of the most important factions of a setting you claim to care about. all this would accomplish is the destruction of GW as they betray the fan base that actually keeps it going in order to peddle to a group of people that dont even exist. now please fuck off with your retarded thread and the let the community that actually cares about the setting call the shots.
Why are people so insistent on female space marine and not leave the lore alone.
>We need female Space Marines.
Why? We allready have them, you know they are called Blood Angels.
It's because 40k players are worse than children. As for practical reasons, there's no real reason to make any. They already did a release of primaris and the codices aren't even fully released yet. No reason to go back onto marines until all the index gets shelved.
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there are female armies, though
we just need GW to remember they exist