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First for the cult, cus we were here all along >:)
Carson Jackson
first for necron
Isaac Morales
Flamers need a buff
Anthony Harris
my dudes > your dudes
Grayson Gray
I wish the guard models looked this cool
Jacob Stewart
Dscythes just don't hit like they used to....
Michael Martinez
>i2
Hunter Martin
Guess necrons are too slow
Levi Davis
I know it's not what you're on about but - I've found tzeentch flamers to be great low wound character assassins.
They've got fly, a small footprint, and can be hidden behind LOS blocking terrain for those turns when the opponent has started to stretch out their forces.
Of course Tzeentch ruins everything again. No Flamers do. i modeled all my fucking Blood Angels Tac squads with Heavy flamers because Heavy Bolters sucked dick last edition and now they are shit.
Jaxon Perez
Let's try guessing the Chapter Tactics for these two:
>Dark Angels: copy paste the Fallen ability from Chaos codex >Blood Angels: can fight twice in the turn they charged, add +1" to charge range out of deep strike
Lincoln Baker
...
Adam Perry
>retarded chaos player Every damn time
Jackson Gray
maybe you're just bad? you just need to get them in range on the appropriate targets.
John Hernandez
I recently got a decent deal on some Terminators. How should I be using them? What's their job? I wanted to get them because I think they're cool but now I realized I'm going to be equipping them and putting them in my army and I don't know what I'm doing.
Chase Williams
before they used to wound on a 2+ the turn they came in, it was spooky as fuck
Jack Morales
Friendly reminder that the Night Lords are only decent legion.
Ryder Robinson
>not rerolling wounds against buildings
Eli Barnes
What is the appropriate target user? Tell me i need to know what i am doing wrong.
Evan Cooper
>night lords Jobbiest Jobbers on this side of Jobbertown
Gabriel Rodriguez
Blood Angels: +1str, just base. +1 attack on charge.
Dark Angels: Hard to say. You want something to benefit bikes, terminators and generic dudes.
Thomas Anderson
Lack of lubrificant.
Eli James
What would be a good cheap proxy for a great unclean one? I am looking for something under 20 bucks that I can greenstuff.
Xavier Scott
Not him, but I can get 20 flamers into range turn one and they still suck ass.
No ignore cover, 8” range, no AP and expensive make them a subpar options when Storm Bolter are cheaper and are more effective at the job than flamers
Nathan Thompson
Yeah, that would be cool to have again.
Xavier Martinez
Xth for Texture Paint is pretty fucking neato
Jayden Rodriguez
Just a little bit of personal experience. I didn't say my opponents were particularly good ;)
Besides, I'm no poorfag, I collect multiple armies, no chaos loyalty here
Connor Hernandez
anyone got last hunt by robmac?
Liam Perry
I dont play space marines, but really they are good against any light infantry-- theyre also nice because nobody in their right mind will charge flamers that can overwatch them.
Tyler Murphy
Nah mate, II and XI Legion are the best. Black Library not fucking ruined them yet.
Isaac Thomas
I want to base my Space Marine army (Dark Angels) on the Sacred Band of Thebes.
How does that sound?
Jack Sullivan
How do you stick your dude on your base if you do your base before?
Super glue?
Ethan Scott
I feel similarly. Hell, I'd take S3 -1AP over S4 0AP.
John Hernandez
>8” >charge from 8”+x >no overwatch Since the average charge range is 8” it is not hard to reliably pull it off
Jason Ward
>giant black dicks on shields >naked guys >dark angels
Sounds great
Ryan Jackson
Good bright orange color from GW?
Jose Cox
...I can't tell if you're making a math joke or not
Sebastian Rivera
Here's what you don't do.
There is a shit ton of stuff in this game that's main purpose is killing terminators. Like they have no other purpose but that. When people see terminators they immediately send everything that kills them at them. Try and avoid that.
Jordan Perry
no
Michael Thomas
That's how most people do it
William Watson
Troll Slayer Orange
Jonathan Ortiz
to be honest I can see them getting Deathwing, Ravenwing and Greenwing specific traits.
Carter Morris
As an AdMech player, how does one justify ever taking Kataphron Destroyers at all?
Kastelan Robots cost 220 for a pair of heavy-phosphor-equipped robots, and the Destroyers are 225 for 3 if you take heavy grav cannons and cognis flamers. Robots are tougher in every way, get more shots, and are significantly better in melee. They're troops, yes, but is that fact REALLY worth the 225 point price tag? I had some success with them in 7th edition, but it looks like they're staying on the shelf in 8th.
Luke Miller
I don't understand math so if my suggestion evens out with math hammer, then lol. I just would favor having any AP over none with this edition.
Jacob Wright
What's the best faction for going |F A S T|
John Hughes
Terminators die on their own. No need to direct anything at them.
Samuel Campbell
What does the average Hive City apartment or home looks like?
Logan Walker
Try Harlequins.
Luis Gutierrez
I've seen one that was one of those cheap plastic buddahs green stuffed into a diseased hulk. looked pretty cool.
Easton Green
>That's how most people do it
Is it? Everyone i know base models before priming it.
Isaiah Nelson
> How does one have some fucking patience and wait for the codex to fix the costs
Levi Jones
Dark Eldar or Eldar.
Dylan Stewart
maybe let it have a +1 or 2 to wound so it MW on a higher number
Thomas Gray
Ever heard of those japanese mini-appartments, which are basically just a box with a bed in it? Like that, only smaller.
Jacob Gutierrez
user on average a flamer will deal 1.56 wounds to light infantry and a Heavy Flamer will do 1.94 wounds to light infantry. now you tell me how doing a little over 3 wounds to their intended target is a good weapon.
Jaxon Rodriguez
average on 2d6 is not 8, and if you're forcing your opponent to attempt unreliable charges instead of moving in for a guaranteed, you're doing well.
I dont get it either. everyone wants to spam kataphrons but I would rather have 25 barebones vanguard for the same cost. Plus they die really quick as they're a huge fire magnet and not very resilient. AND they have bs 4+. Garbage. I run 60 vanguard/rangers in my tournament list.
Robert Gray
Speaking of which I unironically miss 7th editions adds to buildings like tank traps, razor wire and such - I wanted to make a list that covers my half of the table in trenches and mine fields one day. Deathwing and Ravenwing will get separate rules on top of the Chapter Tactics as they did in the past.
John Cox
the codex came out a month ago, man. What the heck are you snorting?
John Bell
Ynnari. Move, WotP, Move again. And they already have high movement to begin with
Michael Gutierrez
I really like how they look and when they hit it's fun to watch them melt things?
I do wish they were cheaper but coolness factor rules out. Though not for their breacher brothers... those poor dudes.
Landon Clark
>Placed an order with GW almost 6 days ago >Still pending
I know Cadia broke and only 3 million made it off planet, BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS
Blake Gomez
Are you trying to imply that Admech does not have a codex?
John Clark
AP is definitely better this addition than strength
But yeah, your idea is the same Flamers vs marines is half wound, 1/3 die Your idea v marines is 1/3 wound, half die
Matthew Gonzalez
>justify ever taking Kataphron Destroyers You really can't. Kataphrons are just to expensive while not having a durability to be taken in a serious competitive list. If you really want beep boops you take Kastelans Dark Eldar my man. Put everything in a raider or venom and have them do sick drive bys.
Joshua Gray
Surge damage? tell me what stormbolters do. Again, i dont play an army with flamers I am just going off of what I have seen.
Colton Reed
If this is on the website, best email them to check on that. When I used to order from them they processed everything by the next day, latest.
Jaxon Hill
There are a LOT of underperformers in the AdMech book. I'd venture to say they are the worst codex out so far. Breachers are pretty awful, but the vanilla, human-sized servitors might be the single worst unit in all of 40k.
I would agree, though, Destroyers look awesome. I just don't appreciate how overcosted they are.
Daniel Hughes
What terminators and what army?
Brayden Gomez
Usually.
Jackson Scott
Glad I spoke up then. Making me seem real smart. Pretend like I was joking from the start.
Jaxon Morales
All flamers need ignores cover bonuses
Eli Gomez
I had my LGS order a Basilisk almost six months ago. Still pending
Dominic Mitchell
>Blood Angels Re-roll charge for JUMP units, +1 S on charge >Dark Angels Overwatch on 5+, only lose one model on failed LD test
Jason Morris
Eldar
Their troops on average move at 10 inches. And everything else moves 20-36 inches, you can also buff units to move again, and you can teleport litterally anything you want 9 inches away from something. That and a shit ton of stuff can just fly anywhere on the map on just teleport behind you. Also they don't suffer penalties from running and shooting.
Oh and they have a bunch of command stuff that lets them move outside movement phase.
Zachary Powell
Regular Terminators and Ultramarines. I also have the Termy Captain for what it's worth if that's relavent.
Hunter Cooper
Then how are you supposed to base it well? Pshaw
Kevin Bell
Yeah, it's through the website. I emailed them today so hopefully I hear from them tomorrow.
Tyler Myers
Basilisk is always sold out on gw, I've had to ebay mine. Still looking for a second.
Nathan Bailey
Are cataphractii terminators ever worth using? models look cool and I was thinking of getting some, deep strike in with lightning claws and hope for the best.
Nolan Moore
Sure thing Have a curious scarab
Ethan Gutierrez
If I move one guy in the unit to see what I want to target can everyone else shoot at it?
Isaiah Martinez
>Dark Eldar my man. Put everything in a raider or venom and have them do sick drive bys. Is this actually viable? I bought into Dark Eldar a couple of weeks ago because I was led to believe they were THE goes fast faction, but after watching several battle reports I've not once seen them used in this manner. I haven't had time to finish building yet, so I haven't been able to try it myself.
John Wood
no
Jaxon Russell
No, though the rules do kind of read like that
Julian Brooks
>2D6” >average 7” >charges work within 1” >hance why average is 8” Do you even play? Hell fucking 10” charges are not hard to pull of in 8th.
Nicholas Anderson
No.
Anthony Miller
storm bolters actually do 1.48 wounds on average but at the same time cost 7 points less than a flamer and do almost the same damage as one on average. While being 15 points less than a heavy flamer and doing .46 of a wound less.
Colton Moore
50/50 chance isn't great odds.
Matthew Russell
They look pretty neat? They don't look like Baymax? > 10 rating on my pain
Jordan Butler
if you're rolling a 7 and making it within 1", you're within 8 inches when you attempt your charge, so the flamers can shoot you. first time using math?
Jayden Barnes
From what I understand tanky melee units deepstriking isnt that useful besides tarring. They also have to survive an entire turn after deepstriking because you likely can't charge anything.
Henry Adams
What's the fluff for the Deathguard guy with the 2d6 damage flamer? Why does it go from can barely hurt a grot to slagging a titan?
Chase Morales
I feel like the charge thing could be a Strategem not tactics.