Android: Netrunner General - /anrg/

How does competitive work in this? Is it a coinflip to see who plays the runner and who plays the corp?

Also, what does full bleed mean?

Full bleed is essentially the same card but with the artwork extended to cover the whole card rather then the top section. Google championship decks for examples, most of which are very pretty.

In the swiss rounds generally yes, but after the top cut it gets a bit complicated. Usually the higher swiss finisher chooses first in the first set of top cut rounds, then it sorta alternates for the player.

Full winning decklists w h e n/w h e r e?

Hopefully they would appear on NBD soon as well. Like in a few hours soon, but we will see.

The card that Wilfy designs better be
Wilfred 1.0 or some variant or I'll be disappointed.

In Android universe inspired rpg should players have chance to join Megacorps or even start play in their employment?

Yeah, absolutely.
The role of cop, prisec or other goon should definitely be available to players, and I wouldn't be too hesitant to have them in more "corporate" roles either if the campaign is low-combat.

Given how solidly grey the Android universe is presented, being in corp employment should have just as many opportunities for doing good or ill as any other, and as many for shenanigans too.

A team of corporate characters will likely face threats and challenges from all sides - their actual mission, rivals from other corps, rivals from other departments, the police, rogue runners and orgcrime, even their own superiors in some cases.

Can Exposè make Reality Threedee worth it?

Depends on the campaign, some campaigns definitely benefit from it.

Given how the Corps (mega, minor, and subsidiaries) pretty much rule life in that not-near future environment, it would be the exception for characters to not start out having some sort of corp link, even recently severed ones due to be replaced by the titular Androids.

>even recently severed ones due to be replaced by the titular Androids.
That's a really good way for a group with common motivation (and desperation) together, may have to steal this for future Android Universe games

Indeed. Seeing how Androids replacing wageslaves is such a significant issue in that setting, it would be a good enough origin point for many an ex-wageslave.

And its not just low level menial jobs that are being purged, even some mid-high ones and otherwise specialist positions are not safe, so characters can plausibly have such backgrounds which are difficult to justify otherwise.

I would also imagine that burnout rates are much higher for specialists in Android future than in real life, since you are literally expected to compete with untiring machines.

That would be true enough, but with open positions being so scarce, and neverending debts to worry about as well, those burning out can't even try elsewhere.

Even specialist positions that are supposed to oversee AI operations aren't safe from that. There is some fluff story about an accountant supervisor/QA who couldn't even attend his fathers funeral because he needed the job and was denied leave.

While all of the Megas could plausibly have an all-field (combat/hacking/infiltration/'diplomancy/ et al) Company Men team, Big W (esp via Argus/Skorpios), HB (via NEXT Design?), and GlobalSec has the easiest time doing that. Jinteki could pull that off as well, while NBN is a bit of a puzzle.

NEXT is experimental weapons, not prisec. Skorpios is also tech, Argus is Big W's prisec arm.
Jinteki does use assassins, NBN has their own clandestine hitmen like Salem.

NBN doesn't really do hitman teams. They have News Teams (reporter, camera man, hacker, drone pilot, and fixer), if players like to get more social and investigative approach rather than gun blazing approach.
Haas-Bioroid probably have teams for "Field Testing and Product Recall."

>Ibrahim Salem

Fixer. He fixes attitudes.

Someone should fix your vocabulary. That ain't what fixers are.

People who make contacts and find tools and equipment team needs to pull through?

Yep. And Ibrahim seems more straight up hitman/intimidator than a man that arranges untraceable weapons deliveries.

He doesn't exactly read as hitman.
Intimidator? Absolutely. But it can be considered as less nuanced form of negotiation.
As for comment about him fixing attitudes, that was an attempt to make a pun.

Mr Salem seems more of an associate of NBN rather then their asset per se. That said, he is a Crime Lord more akin to Mr Li and thus more like someone who 'arranges' things to happen (aka fixer) rather then doing the dirty work himself in most cases.

Wouldn't be surprised if NBN has something akin to the Dawkins Group of Horizon, but yes wetworks probably isn't the first choice of NBN when there are other even more hideous ways to deal with targets.

NBN definitely have assassins, how else would they commit Character Assassinations?

>iseewhatyoudidthere

He could easily have been a (probably sad) Blue card, since he is a major crime boss first, NBN 'asset' second at best.

Publically shaming the person?

As of Drone Screen, Service Outage (which has missile-armed drones) and pic related we know NBN's wetwork can involve literally dropping drones on people.

While Manhunt is no Door-to-Door it's still fieldwork, and as others have said, Salem and his goons are close NBN associates who reach deep into the criminal underworld.

More like destroying their career or any hopes of having one.

I'd like to see a reference to Salem as a crime boss in blue in future.
Maybe more Tri-Maf Contact than Mr Li

Ironically much better at killing targets than an actual assassin

Well, only DS actually does physical damage, which by itself is a rarity. SO is more like active interference in Runner 'Net connections (the pic could be deliberate targeting of network towers thus hindering connectivity), and O&D is the targeting of Runner resources rather then the Runner directly.

Career at the minimum. CA can easily escalate to criminal/political prosecution from the 'evidence' being presented.

Well, good news for Shapers in general, pic related should be a 3-off in the next Champ deck.

Anyone have any idea what was the restricted card used?

Oh yeah, it's totally about disrupting the runner's attacks through interference, but I was just making the point that their drones are armed.

O&D is about resources, sure, but many of those are people. Similar to Freelancer

Also there's clearly been this conversation at NBN before:
>"I've got eyes-on, but there's no-one's in position"
>"You've got eyes-on don't you?"
>"...yes"
>"You know what to do. There's plenty more drones"

Hmm fair points there, although it is conceivable those explosions are encouragements for meat space resources to GTFO rather then actual slaughters.

Wonder if we would see a future yellow card of the same category that details what happened to poor Kati Jones?

I like to think that after all that 23 second business she made enough money on smuggling that she decided to retire, while Corps were busy reclaiming their city and stopping another Clan War on Mars.

I think it was clone chip.

Yeah, hope she made it out in one piece as well. It really is a shame she isn't in Core 2.0 given how many have claimed MO is busted.

Because resources are so varied, even in the same subtype, what being trashed means probably varies a lot.
In some cases it'll be bodies and fireballs, in others it's likely nothing more than a stern conversation and maybe some bribes.

Speaking of the 23 seconds, Beth, News Team and pic related remind me that news can be a dangerous game

I was wrong, it's levy.

During the match against Dan he went through his whole deck. So I went and rewatch it, noting down every card he drew/discarded. I might get something wrong because the shuffling, but I think this is the deck.

Wilfy Worlds Championship

Hayley Kaplan: Universal Scholar

Event (14)
3x Indexing
1x Information Sifting ●●●
1x Levy AR Lab Access
1x Mad Dash
3x Peace in Our Time ●●●
1x Scavenge
1x Stimhack ●
3x Sure Gamble

Hardware (3)
2x Astrolabe
1x Feedback Filter

Resource (17)
1x Artist Colony
1x Beth Kilrain-Chang
1x Citadel Sanctuary
3x Daily Casts
3x Fan Site
1x Hunting Grounds ●
3x Laguna Velasco District
3x Sacrificial Construct
1x The Shadow Net

Icebreaker (5)
1x Atman
1x Femme Fatale ●
1x Gordian Blade
1x Inti
1x Na'Not'K

Program (6)
1x Clot ●●
1x Misdirection
2x Self-modifying Code
2x Tapwrm ●●●●

15 influence spent (max 15, available 0)
45 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Revised Core Set

Deck built on netrunnerdb.com.

So why is Hayley so strong? Haven't managed to watch worlds yet. Is she just incredibly fast at set up?

That, and mid run installs.

Shit yeah. Didn't even occur to me how strong that is.

Hayley also triggers on you opponent's turn.

Especially with Artist Colony and Fan Site too - instant speed install anything

1 install anything, 1 from hand of the same type.

I think it was Greg who played SMC to find a thing just to install Clot from hand, neat play.

...

>tfw apex full bleed card finally
How long until Sunny and Adam make their cards into a winning deck?

Nice try.

Nice, thanks for the decklist.

>only 2 SMC

Shrike might be a good contender if Tour Guide was more common, SecNex as well if there is a decent Shaper with link.

Not too sure about Adam's stuff though.

It's not Heartbeat, but Hunting Grounds is still a common enough splash. That full bleed is going to be awkward though at that position, unless they rotate it or something.

It's a bit surprising Smoke didn't do all that well this time, but maybe she has a better chance once Hayley makes her disappearance in about a years time.

I forget, what ended up being the problem with all the Smoke decks? They didn't have enough money for Feedback Filter against Jinteki?

Not quite sure actually, since it's not just Jinteki she has to contend with, but various flavours of CI as well.

Saw somewhere that Aumakua triggers from Archives runs now thanks to the new FAQ or something, can anyone verify this and/or point me to the relevant FAQ page?

The clearances and CI are both some of the most interesting cards in the game.

CI's ability can lead to some very interesting interactions.
But with some of the most problem cards for CI gone (Vamp, AS) or restricted (E strike) in conjunction with the fact that it gets to ignore the dowside for two of the most insane operations in the game (Violet and Ultraviolet) is it a problem?
Does something new need to be restricted?

Violet and Ultraviolet are super interesting cards to me because of how you have to actually be able to deal with having that much card draw, but CI frankly doesn't really care.

Is it too early to be making a decision on this front?
Almost certainly.
Is speculation interesting regardless?
Also yes.

I don't believe it's on the official FAQ, but Boggs does unofficial faqs on ANCUR, which almost all players abide by because apparently actually getting FFG to do anything is a huge pain in the ass.

Regardless, that's just what the printed text on the card says.
When you run archives and you are successful, you access cards.
Assuming you didn't hit an agenda, since trashing from archives isn't a thing, you have accessed cards and not stolen nor trashed anything.
Therefore Aumakua's condition to get a virus counter is met.

If the replacement for Account Siphon (or any other credit denial) doesn't appear soon, it might perhaps be prudent to restrict one of the clearances (probably VLC?) to slow CI down a bit.

Going for more heavy duty econ denial will probably bring us back to Siphon spam, which I'm not eager for. I like the Clearances as well, and the only reason they see much play is because CI ignores the limitations. I have a hard time seeing them in play otherwise.

I think the most effective thing they could do would be functional errata for CI to update hand size at the start of the Corp turn instead of continuously updating it, that way they can't keep the draw from the Clearances despite gaining more money, at the cost of tracking hand size being more finicky. At the very least it would force them to buffer their money and card in hand to allow them to play Clearances, which should slow them down decently. I doubt restricting the Clearances would do much since they could just forego Fairchild 3.0 for it, unless they restrict CI as well.

If it's max inf (assuming crim) and/or RFG like mining accidents, future account siphons probably won't lead to spamming.

Max influence wouldn't matter, RFG would probably be fine, though I remain reticent about it. I get that Siphon is an iconic card, but it's annoying that people just wouldn't let it go and find a different way of playing Crim, despite acknowledging it was bad for the game. Hopefully Kitara will open up more win paths for Crim.

Account Siphon is one place where ONR had the better card. I would be happy to see this get printed in Kitara and have a runner side version of Economic Warfare (which was also an ONR card)

While this is probably more balanced than Siphon, it does have competition with Peace in Our Time for credit gain. Practically any non-influence burst credits would be great for Crim now though.

Idk, would Anarchs (the actual main users of Siphon Spam) be able to burn 10inf rather then 8 for 2 of them?

If Shapers are masters of inevitability and hitting servers frequently, and if Anarchs are masters of battles of attrition and disrupting the corp, it'd be nice if Criminals could somehow be the masters of high impact runs where the percentage of stealing an agenda when they access cards is close to 100%, and as such are given tools to deliberately prepare for that. Stuff like:

Calling Card
Criminal - 5 influence
3 credits - Resource - Unique
When you install Calling Card, make a run on HQ. If the run is successful, instead of accessing cards, place 3 power counters on Calling Card, and reveal the top 10 cards on RnD.

At the start of your turn, if there are no power counters on Calling Card, trash it. Otherwise, remove 1 power counter on Calling Card.

If an agenda is stolen while Calling Card is installed, add Calling Card to your score area as an agenda worth 1 point.

The extra point is probably overkill, but hopefully the main idea is evident.

The extra 2 influence cost isn't really that high of a barrier, I doubt that they wouldn't be able to find room for it. Not like they are particularly in need of out of faction cards anyway.

FFG just posted the Champion decklists if anyone's interested.

And the corp list.

Pretty sure it's the corp's turn to be illegal by the time it hits the shelves, there's just no way that CI + Clearances (+Stinson?) will not be restricted in some way - Boggs even mentioned thinking about doing something with CI when it became apparent how the meta was shaping up.

Despite the unfortunate amount of 1-ofs (man, remember when 1-ofs were only for shit you didn't really care about?), I'd say the runner one is pretty great though - got a little bit of everything, and plenty of draw and tutors

The runner list is missing 1x Astrolabe. NRDB has the correct lists.

There is supposed to be 2 Astrolabe and Sac Con isn't hardware. Also 2 SMC is sad.

Won't be surprised if VLC gets in the R list. 2 IPO is just as sad.

>and Sac Con isn't hardware
>expecting FFG to know their game
>FFG ever putting out a digital communication without mistakes
user pls

Though everyone and their mum (except Monica Singh in sniper mode) thinks Sac Con should really be hardware, just look at it - and what kind of a subtype is "remote" anyway?

But yeah, 2 SMC is probably the best illustration of how much that deck trades consistency for versatility (except it doesn't, because shaper draw, shaper tutoring, and Hayley installs)

I don't know anything about the game, but, gosh, do i love your pictures.

For all we know, SacCon could end up with 'corrected' subtypes in Core 2.0.

That'd be cool, though Dummy Box suggests the effect is one they want on cheap resources.

Yeah, netrunner's art tends to be pretty on-point.

Which reminds me, seeing as we've seen the header from the first Chris Dyer article is the Core 2.0 scrubber art ( ), what do you reckon this, from the header of the second, is the art for?

I kinda have the feeling its new Pri Req. That fella looks like the same sort as the existing exec on Pri Req 1, and there aren't many other appropriate candidates left.

>Full bleed Femme Fatale
MOMMY

The alt art is better.

Which one tho?

OG?

Oh, that's a good call!
Older, piece suit, looks like he's bitching about it being on his desk... I can see it

Or new (which may or may not be the art in Core 2)

That is so, although having the original full bleed would be nice. The artwork looks a bit different from the artist's more recent works it seems.

It's certainly possible this AA might end up as the 'new' Femme. Kind of a coin flip really.

But yeah, for the presumed new Pri Rec, can't really see any other alternatives, since most others are accounted for (new or old arts). Highly doubt its Melange Mining for one thing. PSF is AA, False Lead is old iirc, doesn't look appropriate for PAD or Hedge Fund, and certainly not any of the ICE.

Is that art for core 2? Looks alot more fitting than the original imo

Nah, its the existing AA for Melange Mining from ages ago. It would certainly be nice if it did end up on Core 2.0, even if the cropping would mess it up a bit.

Anyone have a consolidated list of which cards are having what art in Core 2.0?

3rd pack of Kitara announcement!

New NBN ID!

New Pack!

The Crest, due next year.

A decent Crim current for once!

Criminals get a decent current!

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